Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 Sorry I might end up posting a response to everyone! I don't have the memory to just make one big post! Kerry Dowling & Dan dawkdd@...> wrote: QUOTE: I had adopted the line " it's just her hearing, nothing else, it could be worse " , partly to fend off the " I'm so sorry/your poor family " comments that people tended to make (which enraged me-- we need support, not pity!), and partly to keep myself positive about everything. Well, one day I made that comment to a work colleague, someone I very casually knew. Unbeknownst to me, during my maternity leave his 11 year old daughter had been diagnosed with leukemia and her prognosis was poor. His response was, " You're right. She could be dying like my daughter. " Kerry - this is exactly why I feel guilty for expressing it at all but I haven't yet learned how to process these emotions any other way. I usually tend to only say that in person when it is brought up to me first. Otherwise I stick to the whole " they're Ok " bit. QUOTE: Also, a few people have mentioned genetic screening for Connexins and other genetic causes of hearing loss. They want to screen for a few specifics since Hannah's eye sight is not 20/20. However that doesn't tell us much since we both have poor eyesight. But they are pushing the issue of genetic testing this time around - when it was just Hannah it was an " option " now its " I'll set up the appt for you! " I I wouldn't chose to not have a child because of a hearing loss. I think I've been wording it wrong. I love my two kiddos and honestly the HL hasn't changed much in who they are or what they have accomplished - I mean - Hannah is 5 and she already has this boy who keeps trying to kiss her at school! I think I'm more concerned about the implications of a genetic link. What kind of link? How severe? At this point we don't know if the HL is their only issue. Suppose we find a genetic link that eventually causes more issues? Yes, I could handle more HOH children -but more severe issues? I just honestly don't know if I would be strong enough - some people are but I doubt that would be me. I think I'm just scared about the possibility of NOT having more if that makes sense. This genetic testing scares the bejeezies out of me and its one reason why I didnt get it when it was just hannah. We always talked about 5 to 7 children (realisticly - 5). The thought that this could be it because of what the genetic testing might show is scary. Then again - this might be all for naught because we know the genetic testing may show me nothing! But this is all in due time but at this point I can't talk to DH or my family about my concerns for the " future " . They would think I was nuts. All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 It is hard to put these feeling into words, and to know how very blessed I have been to have the girls. I was already pregnant with Holly when was diagnosed Profoundly hearing impaired. I was very afraid that Holly would be born hoh also. Maybe it was the unknown, as we where just embarking on the journey, and had no idea what it would mean to our daughter, or our lives. I grew to hate very quickly comments like " it could be worse, or at least she isn't _________. And through the year the one I have hated the most was " God only gives us what we can handle " . I remember saying to someone one day, well ok, can we have a talk with God now and let him know I've had enough. I don't regret a moment of the experiences, the journey and the road we have gotten to travel because of the girls. I have meet wonderful people, and learned about something I probably would not have ever known about. I have learned how strong I am, how to advocate to get everything they have needed through the years. And have had such joy in watching them accomplish many things others said they wouldn't, or couldn't. But all of this aside I am not afraid to say I was scared, sad, and felt a great loss when both of the girls where diagnosed. There have been moments through the years when it did seem overwhelming. To make such big choices, to stay on top of everything they needed, and still need. I had to allow myself to feel grief, loss and the sadness. To not compare my feelings to other peoples losses and pains, because they where mine, and they where, and are real. , Mom of CI 8/99 Holly CI 12/99 Mandy, Tom, Jes, hearing RE: Re: TWO HI kids now...what next? Sorry I might end up posting a response to everyone! I don't have the memory to just make one big post! Kerry Dowling & Dan dawkdd@...> wrote: QUOTE: I had adopted the line " it's just her hearing, nothing else, it could be worse " , partly to fend off the " I'm so sorry/your poor family " comments that people tended to make (which enraged me-- we need support, not pity!), and partly to keep myself positive about everything. Well, one day I made that comment to a work colleague, someone I very casually knew. Unbeknownst to me, during my maternity leave his 11 year old daughter had been diagnosed with leukemia and her prognosis was poor. His response was, " You're right. She could be dying like my daughter. " Kerry - this is exactly why I feel guilty for expressing it at all but I haven't yet learned how to process these emotions any other way. I usually tend to only say that in person when it is brought up to me first. Otherwise I stick to the whole " they're Ok " bit. QUOTE: Also, a few people have mentioned genetic screening for Connexins and other genetic causes of hearing loss. They want to screen for a few specifics since Hannah's eye sight is not 20/20. However that doesn't tell us much since we both have poor eyesight. But they are pushing the issue of genetic testing this time around - when it was just Hannah it was an " option " now its " I'll set up the appt for you! " I I wouldn't chose to not have a child because of a hearing loss. I think I've been wording it wrong. I love my two kiddos and honestly the HL hasn't changed much in who they are or what they have accomplished - I mean - Hannah is 5 and she already has this boy who keeps trying to kiss her at school! I think I'm more concerned about the implications of a genetic link. What kind of link? How severe? At this point we don't know if the HL is their only issue. Suppose we find a genetic link that eventually causes more issues? Yes, I could handle more HOH children -but more severe issues? I just honestly don't know if I would be strong enough - some people are but I doubt that would be me. I think I'm just scared about the possibility of NOT having more if that makes sense. This genetic testing scares the bejeezies out of me and its one reason why I didnt get it when it was just hannah. We always talked about 5 to 7 children (realisticly - 5). The thought that this could be it because of what the genetic testing might show is scary. Then again - this might be all for naught because we know the genetic testing may show me nothing! But this is all in due time but at this point I can't talk to DH or my family about my concerns for the " future " . They would think I was nuts. All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 In a message dated 5/11/2006 8:32:54 A.M. Central Standard Time, saraandchadd@... writes: One question - did they tell you that your hearing wouldn't progress? They are telling me that they don't think Hannah's will (they do think 's will - at least to the point where Hannah is) but then I keep hearing stories about it happening down the line. ..............man do I feel stupid for my post earlier!!!! Oh I hope you won't put down what you feel-- we all feel what we feel! We were never told it was progressive, I think it was just a given thing in our family. For many of us, it was a sudden thing. My sister was three when she fell off a chair, hit the baseboard and became profoundly deaf. One of my brothers was 36 years old and a pole fell on him at work and he woke up two days later in the hospital with a lot of hearing gone. My other brother is now losing it gradually, along with my niece. My other sister grew up with a unilateral loss, gradually became severe and then a few years ago, slipped on a rug and became profoundly deaf. My mom's hearing began to decline in high school and then when she was 27, she went to a cookout and all of a sudden realized that she couldn't hear anyone talking. Her hearing went out, just like that. Putz Illinois Families for Hands & Voices _www.handsandvoices.org_ (http://www.handsandvoices.org/) _www.ilhandsandvoices.org_ (http://www.ilhandsandvoices.org/) Email: support@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 In a message dated 5/11/2006 10:51:43 A.M. Central Standard Time, JillcWood@... writes: Don't ... that's why this list is so wonderful. You can speak from your heart and you'll get advice and support. Any concerns and fears are very valid, no matter what they are. Even if they suddenly seem small and silly afterwards. They were big at the time, and the truth is, many of us have had similar thoughts at some point. Ah, there we go, Jill said it so much better! Putz Illinois Families for Hands & Voices _www.handsandvoices.org_ (http://www.handsandvoices.org/) _www.ilhandsandvoices.org_ (http://www.ilhandsandvoices.org/) Email: support@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 -----Original Message----- From: Listen-Up [mailto:Listen-Up ] On Behalf Of Robin Tomlinson Listen-Up [mailto:Listen-Up ] On Behalf Of Sara Chaddock This genetic testing scares the bejeezies out of me and its one reason why I didnt get it when it was just hannah. We always talked about 5 to 7 children (realisticly - 5). The thought that this could be it because of what the genetic testing might show is scary. Sara, doing genetic screening will not test for everything under the sun. They will choose to test for the mutations known to produce the symptoms and issues that are relevant to your daughter. When we went through it 4 years ago, they tested for the Connexins, Waardenburg, Ushers and one other syndrome that I can't recall. The rest of our evil mutations remain a mystery! Kerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 AVHear2@... wrote: I was very afraid that Holly would be born hoh also. This is going to sound strange but do you know I'm actually fearing having a hearing child!!!!! How crazy is that! A hearing child would be " different " in our family! I'm begining to think that this questioning is just my way of processing his diagnosis. I guess with Hannah I went through the anger and grief so maybe now I'm into the " what ifs " and " whys " . I don't know - talking it out really helps though. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Kerry Dowling & Dan dawkdd@...> wrote: Sara, doing genetic screening will not test for everything under the sun. They will choose to test for the mutations known to produce the symptoms and issues that are relevant to your daughter. When we went through it 4 years ago, they tested for the Connexins, Waardenburg, Ushers and one other syndrome that I can't recall. The rest of our evil mutations remain a mystery! I can't tell you how much better that makes me feel!!!!!!!! I kept thinking that we were going to go in and they were going to tell us something that we had a 25% chance of having a child with some rare disease!!!! Oh I feel 100 times better about it now. Like always Kerry -thank you so much! All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 I think they pretty much know that some types of hearing losses are progressive - I think LVAS is, for example. In our situation, they don't know *why* our boys our deaf, although it probably is an x-linked recessive type loss. And based on Tom's CT scan that was done years ago, they felt it wouldn't be a progressive loss but didn't know for sure. And his loss did progress to some degree which is why he went ahead with the implant. Barbara Parentsofdeafhoh@... wrote: > > > In a message dated 5/11/2006 8:32:54 A.M. Central Standard Time, > saraandchadd@... writes: > > One question - did they tell you that your hearing wouldn't progress? They > are telling me that they don't think Hannah's will (they do think 's > will - at least to the point where Hannah is) but then I keep hearing stories > about it happening down the line. > > .............man do I feel stupid for my post earlier!!!! > > > Oh I hope you won't put down what you feel-- we all feel what we feel! We > were never told it was progressive, I think it was just a given thing in our > family. For many of us, it was a sudden thing. My sister was three when she > fell off a chair, hit the baseboard and became profoundly deaf. One of my > brothers was 36 years old and a pole fell on him at work and he woke up two > days later in the hospital with a lot of hearing gone. My other brother is now > losing it gradually, along with my niece. My other sister grew up with a > unilateral loss, gradually became severe and then a few years ago, slipped on a > rug and became profoundly deaf. My mom's hearing began to decline in high > school and then when she was 27, she went to a cookout and all of a sudden > realized that she couldn't hear anyone talking. Her hearing went out, just like > that. > > Putz > Illinois Families for Hands & Voices > _www.handsandvoices.org_ (http://www.handsandvoices.org/) > _www.ilhandsandvoices.org_ (http://www.ilhandsandvoices.org/) > Email: support@... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 In a message dated 5/12/2006 12:04:50 P.M. Central Standard Time, saraandchadd@... writes: Wow. So is there a genetic connection or was it a fluke that so much happened in one family? I'm sorry if I'm asking too many personal questions. you can tell me to shut up! I don't mind the questions at all. It's definitely a genetic thing, but no one seems to be able to figure it out. We did the Gallaudet study, ruled out Connexin. Ruled out LVAS. So the National Institute of Health flew out four researchers and we had a party one Saturday and gave blood. Putz Illinois Families for Hands & Voices _www.handsandvoices.org_ (http://www.handsandvoices.org/) _www.ilhandsandvoices.org_ (http://www.ilhandsandvoices.org/) Email: support@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Parentsofdeafhoh@... wrote: For many of us, it was a sudden thing. My sister was three when she fell off a chair, hit the baseboard and became profoundly deaf. Wow. So is there a genetic connection or was it a fluke that so much happened in one family? I'm sorry if I'm asking too many personal questions. you can tell me to shut up! __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Ok - so they still can't test for all genetic hearing losses but we can pretty much assume that it is genetic to some degree? And they won't be able to tell me for sure if it won't progress. So there is a very big chance that we'll come out of this with more questions than when we went in? Greeeeaaaat. Barbara Mellert Barbara.T.Mellert@...> wrote: I think they pretty much know that some types of hearing losses are progressive - I think LVAS is, for example. In our situation, they don't know *why* our boys our deaf, although it probably is an x-linked recessive type loss. And based on Tom's CT scan that was done years ago, they felt it wouldn't be a progressive loss but didn't know for sure. And his loss did progress to some degree which is why he went ahead with the implant. Barbara --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 In a message dated 5/12/2006 1:08:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, saraandchadd@... writes: So there is a very big chance that we'll come out of this with more questions than when we went in? Greeeeaaaat. Or, like us, you'll have a partial answer that doesn't really answer the " how and why " of the cause or future of his hearing loss. Ian has a non-genetic syndrome, but I don't believe it answers why Ian's loss is progressive. It explains the presence of a loss, since the ears and head are growing at that time of gestation. But the other " damage " that was done is the same as it had always been, no better and no worse. So his loss should be stable. Why is it a progressive loss? Who knows, and after a while, it didn't really matter anymore. It simply is what it is and whatever happens will happen in its own time. Best -- Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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