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It may or may not have something to do with oxalate blockers. I found

several websites which refer to oxalate blockers but could not find

out what they were. I finally found one today which describes them

and how they work. I found it by doing a search for:

oxalate +block

I don't know how reliable this site is but you can draw your own

conclusions.

he author of the article believes that oxalates prevent cancer so his

advice should be taken with several grains of salt but he might be

right in some respects.

It seems to me that the oxalate blockers might work by eliminating

oxalates from the body via the urine which could cause pain " down

there " .

Another blocker could be sugar. I have read somewhere that sugar

turns to alcohol in the stomach or digestive tract and I know that

eating sweets will frequently cause me to have a flare.

Ora

http://www.coljoe.com/diet_procedure.htm

" The first blocker is CITRIC ACID: it is an acid we do not need to

take orally; it is required only if there is a excess or an

undesirable acid in our system, and if it is needed the body will

produce it. One of the acids it will flush from our system if it is in

excess is oxalic acid; so if it is taken orally it will reduce the

level of oxalic acid in the blood whether its in excess or

not. " ........ " Many people think only of citrus fruits when citric

acid is mentioned, however, the greatest source is from ingredients

added to foods and beverages. Citric acid is a great preservative, a

great taste enhancer and keeps colors bright. "

" The second blocker is CALCIUM " Most of us are aware that taking

calcium can block oxalate in the intestines.

" The third blocker is a environmental item in to-days lifestyle that

has to be considered in any diet and I believe it is the primary cause

of breast and lung cancer in women, smokers or not. It is ELECTRIC

MAGNETIC FIELDS (EMFs). "

" The fourth blocker is alcohol. It washes oxalic acid from the blood

and is excreted with urine. The same process is used in laboratory

testing. Toxic elements are removed from test materials by being

washed with ethanol, an organic alcohol. If you must have alcohol or

wish to celebrate a special occasion, drink cheap red wine. Oxalic

acid is fairly high in the concord grapes and probably binds with the

alcohol in the wine. The cheaper the wine is; the better. "

" The fifth blocker is pyridoxine (vitamin B6). Oxalic acid will be

flushed from the kidneys when Pyridoxine is increased in the diet.

Today few people pay attention to the RDA for any of the nutrients and

for pyridoxine the RDA amount varies from 2 to 4mg depending on what

reference you are reading. Like everything else B6 is added to most

foods. Some cereals looking out for your health may provide as much as

2500% of your needs. As with all nutrients you should take your

vitamins from a natural source. To avoid B6 when you are on the diet

your must avoid red meat especially pork and very surprising to me and

everyone else you must avoid the white meat of the fowl, chicken and

turkey, the white meat is very high in pyridoxine. Many diet advise

that you avoid meat because of the fat content and advise you to eat

the skinless breast of chicken. The white meat of the chicken is

higher in pyridoxine than lean beef. You ca n eat lamb and the dark

meat of the fowl as well as any seafood. Canned tuna is especially

good; it is high in protein. "

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:20:28 -0000, " " posnerdorf@...>

wrote:

>I have had pain starting shortly after drinking alcohol too. I don't

>drink wine, because of allergies to grapes, but it has happened with

>beer and rum for me. It doesn't always happen, and I haven't found

>any rhyme or reason to it. I had never heard anyone else mention it

>though, so I thought it was just me! Sorry I don't have any other

>insights, but at least you know you're not alone.

>

>

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Ora: aren't there people who say that sugar feeds cancer? hugs, ML

" As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord

... " ( 24:15b).

OXALATE BLOCKERS was Wine

It may or may not have something to do with oxalate blockers. I found

several websites which refer to oxalate blockers but could not find

out what they were. I finally found one today which describes them

and how they work. I found it by doing a search for:

oxalate +block

I don't know how reliable this site is but you can draw your own

conclusions.

he author of the article believes that oxalates prevent cancer so his

advice should be taken with several grains of salt but he might be

right in some respects.

It seems to me that the oxalate blockers might work by eliminating

oxalates from the body via the urine which could cause pain " down

there " .

Another blocker could be sugar. I have read somewhere that sugar

turns to alcohol in the stomach or digestive tract and I know that

eating sweets will frequently cause me to have a flare.

Ora

http://www.coljoe.com/diet_procedure.htm

" The first blocker is CITRIC ACID: it is an acid we do not need to

take orally; it is required only if there is a excess or an

undesirable acid in our system, and if it is needed the body will

produce it. One of the acids it will flush from our system if it is in

excess is oxalic acid; so if it is taken orally it will reduce the

level of oxalic acid in the blood whether its in excess or

not. " ........ " Many people think only of citrus fruits when citric

acid is mentioned, however, the greatest source is from ingredients

added to foods and beverages. Citric acid is a great preservative, a

great taste enhancer and keeps colors bright. "

" The second blocker is CALCIUM " Most of us are aware that taking

calcium can block oxalate in the intestines.

" The third blocker is a environmental item in to-days lifestyle that

has to be considered in any diet and I believe it is the primary cause

of breast and lung cancer in women, smokers or not. It is ELECTRIC

MAGNETIC FIELDS (EMFs). "

" The fourth blocker is alcohol. It washes oxalic acid from the blood

and is excreted with urine. The same process is used in laboratory

testing. Toxic elements are removed from test materials by being

washed with ethanol, an organic alcohol. If you must have alcohol or

wish to celebrate a special occasion, drink cheap red wine. Oxalic

acid is fairly high in the concord grapes and probably binds with the

alcohol in the wine. The cheaper the wine is; the better. "

" The fifth blocker is pyridoxine (vitamin B6). Oxalic acid will be

flushed from the kidneys when Pyridoxine is increased in the diet.

Today few people pay attention to the RDA for any of the nutrients and

for pyridoxine the RDA amount varies from 2 to 4mg depending on what

reference you are reading. Like everything else B6 is added to most

foods. Some cereals looking out for your health may provide as much as

2500% of your needs. As with all nutrients you should take your

vitamins from a natural source. To avoid B6 when you are on the diet

your must avoid red meat especially pork and very surprising to me and

everyone else you must avoid the white meat of the fowl, chicken and

turkey, the white meat is very high in pyridoxine. Many diet advise

that you avoid meat because of the fat content and advise you to eat

the skinless breast of chicken. The white meat of the chicken is

higher in pyridoxine than lean beef. You ca n eat lamb and the dark

meat of the fowl as well as any seafood. Canned tuna is especially

good; it is high in protein. "

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I am sure you are right. Here is one

http://www.infowars.com/articles/science/cancer_top_five_cancer_causing_foods.ht\

m

There are also people who say don't eat anything white. I don't eat

much sugar or desserts unless they have a " bite " like lemon or

menthol, because I don't much care for it. Makes my mouth and throat

hot and often gives me heartburn.

Ora

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:38:34 -0600, mladamsgte@...>

wrote:

>Ora: aren't there people who say that sugar feeds cancer? hugs, ML

>

> " As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord

>.. " ( 24:15b).

>

>

> OXALATE BLOCKERS was Wine

>

>

>It may or may not have something to do with oxalate blockers. I found

>several websites which refer to oxalate blockers but could not find

>out what they were. I finally found one today which describes them

>and how they work. I found it by doing a search for:

>

> oxalate +block

>

>I don't know how reliable this site is but you can draw your own

>conclusions.

>

>he author of the article believes that oxalates prevent cancer so his

>advice should be taken with several grains of salt but he might be

>right in some respects.

>

>It seems to me that the oxalate blockers might work by eliminating

>oxalates from the body via the urine which could cause pain " down

>there " .

>

>Another blocker could be sugar. I have read somewhere that sugar

>turns to alcohol in the stomach or digestive tract and I know that

>eating sweets will frequently cause me to have a flare.

>

>Ora

>

>http://www.coljoe.com/diet_procedure.htm

> " The first blocker is CITRIC ACID: it is an acid we do not need to

>take orally; it is required only if there is a excess or an

>undesirable acid in our system, and if it is needed the body will

>produce it. One of the acids it will flush from our system if it is in

>excess is oxalic acid; so if it is taken orally it will reduce the

>level of oxalic acid in the blood whether its in excess or

>not. " ........ " Many people think only of citrus fruits when citric

>acid is mentioned, however, the greatest source is from ingredients

>added to foods and beverages. Citric acid is a great preservative, a

>great taste enhancer and keeps colors bright. "

>

>

> " The second blocker is CALCIUM " Most of us are aware that taking

>calcium can block oxalate in the intestines.

>

> " The third blocker is a environmental item in to-days lifestyle that

>has to be considered in any diet and I believe it is the primary cause

>of breast and lung cancer in women, smokers or not. It is ELECTRIC

>MAGNETIC FIELDS (EMFs). "

>

>

> " The fourth blocker is alcohol. It washes oxalic acid from the blood

>and is excreted with urine. The same process is used in laboratory

>testing. Toxic elements are removed from test materials by being

>washed with ethanol, an organic alcohol. If you must have alcohol or

>wish to celebrate a special occasion, drink cheap red wine. Oxalic

>acid is fairly high in the concord grapes and probably binds with the

>alcohol in the wine. The cheaper the wine is; the better. "

>

> " The fifth blocker is pyridoxine (vitamin B6). Oxalic acid will be

>flushed from the kidneys when Pyridoxine is increased in the diet.

>Today few people pay attention to the RDA for any of the nutrients and

>for pyridoxine the RDA amount varies from 2 to 4mg depending on what

>reference you are reading. Like everything else B6 is added to most

>foods. Some cereals looking out for your health may provide as much as

>2500% of your needs. As with all nutrients you should take your

>vitamins from a natural source. To avoid B6 when you are on the diet

>your must avoid red meat especially pork and very surprising to me and

>everyone else you must avoid the white meat of the fowl, chicken and

>turkey, the white meat is very high in pyridoxine. Many diet advise

>that you avoid meat because of the fat content and advise you to eat

>the skinless breast of chicken. The white meat of the chicken is

>higher in pyridoxine than lean beef. You ca n eat lamb and the dark

>meat of the fowl as well as any seafood. Canned tuna is especially

>good; it is high in protein. "

>

>

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