Re: current ectopic pregnancy

[Guest guest]

hi, I read your story, my thoughts are with you at this time, I have a

question for you, I am in England and had a EP a year ago, but I have never

heard of what you refered to as the metho injection as an alternative to

surgery, could you tell me more?

>

>Reply-To: ectopicpregnancy

>To: ectopicpregnancy

>Subject: current ectopic pregnancy

>Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:48:00 -0800

>

>Hello everyone, I've been reading a couple days..Here's my story.

>I have 2 boys, (almost 3 and 13 months) I'm breastfeeding the 13 month

>old. My cycles returned in August, I had 2 normal cycles. Then on day

>18 of the third month (Oct. 16th) I started bleeding, I didn't suspect

>I was pg. I bled for 2 wks, then called my GYN, she said it was from

>breastfeeding and either wait it out or start BC pills. I waited another

>week, it was heavier this time, called again ready for the

>prescription. The nurse said if there was any chance I could be pg to

>do a HPT before starting the pills. I really doubted I was PG, but did

>one anyway. I was shocked to find out it was positive. I called the

>nurse back and I ended up going for an US that day (Nov. 9th) also had a

>HCG drawn, it was 53. I saw the OB on call and he told me it was

>possible I had a tubal or I just wasn't far enough along for it to show

>up in my uterus. 4 days later, I had another hcg drawn , it was only

>77, so we knew at that point that this wasn't a normal pregnancy. This

>entire time I have not had any pain. My OB wanted to wait a week and

>have another HCG, and on Monday it was 65, I also had another us on

>Monday, it confirmed that I do have an ectopic pregnancy. She gave me 3

>options. 1) wait a week and see what happens, 2) methotrexate 3)

>laproscopy We decided to wait another week and see if it can resolve

>itself, If not, I'll have the metho injection on Tuesday. I've read a

>lot about it, doesn't sound like much fun, but neither does surgery. I

>still am in shock about the entire situation. I told my mom, but we

>didn't really want to tell my in-laws (large family), but we had to

>cancel our Thanksgiving plans to go out of town, so we had to tell

>them. It's so difficult waiting, I go between wanting the metho

>asap, to get this started to obcessing about rupturing in the meantime!

>I'm glad to have found this board!

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[Guest guest]

,

I am sorry for your loss but glad that you found us. This group is amazing

and has been my life-saver for the past year....

You can talk about anything here..... everyone is great. Lots of us are ttc

and some aren't, the best part is that everyone helps, encourages, supports

and loves us....

lisa r

[Guest guest]

Hello and welcome. I'm so sorry to hear about your loss. Every time I read

someone's new story I am so angry and sad. I'm glad you have found this group.

It is very helpful!!! Take care of yourself! Steph

>>> Lamm95@... 11/21/01 05:48PM >>>

Hello everyone, I've been reading a couple days..Here's my story.

I have 2 boys, (almost 3 and 13 months) I'm breastfeeding the 13 month

old. My cycles returned in August, I had 2 normal cycles. Then on day

18 of the third month (Oct. 16th) I started bleeding, I didn't suspect

I was pg. I bled for 2 wks, then called my GYN, she said it was from

breastfeeding and either wait it out or start BC pills. I waited another

week, it was heavier this time, called again ready for the

prescription. The nurse said if there was any chance I could be pg to

do a HPT before starting the pills. I really doubted I was PG, but did

one anyway. I was shocked to find out it was positive. I called the

nurse back and I ended up going for an US that day (Nov. 9th) also had a

HCG drawn, it was 53. I saw the OB on call and he told me it was

possible I had a tubal or I just wasn't far enough along for it to show

up in my uterus. 4 days later, I had another hcg drawn , it was only

77, so we knew at that point that this wasn't a normal pregnancy. This

entire time I have not had any pain. My OB wanted to wait a week and

have another HCG, and on Monday it was 65, I also had another us on

Monday, it confirmed that I do have an ectopic pregnancy. She gave me 3

options. 1) wait a week and see what happens, 2) methotrexate 3)

laproscopy We decided to wait another week and see if it can resolve

itself, If not, I'll have the metho injection on Tuesday. I've read a

lot about it, doesn't sound like much fun, but neither does surgery. I

still am in shock about the entire situation. I told my mom, but we

didn't really want to tell my in-laws (large family), but we had to

cancel our Thanksgiving plans to go out of town, so we had to tell

them. It's so difficult waiting, I go between wanting the metho

asap, to get this started to obcessing about rupturing in the meantime!

I'm glad to have found this board!

[Guest guest]

,

I am glad you decided to post and I am very sorry for what you are going through

right now. Waiting and trying to make some kind of decision is extremely hard. I

am glad you haven't had any pains yet and at least your dr is aware of the

situatiion if you need to call. I had an ep and required surgery last Dec.

10th and lost my rt tube and baby. It was the hardest thing I have every been

through and something you never fully get over but finding this group was one of

the best things that every happened to me. These women are so supportive and

caring. Please keep us posted on how you are doing. M

Mike and Lammers Lamm95@...> wrote: Hello everyone, I've been

reading a couple days..Here's my story.

I have 2 boys, (almost 3 and 13 months) I'm breastfeeding the 13 month

old. My cycles returned in August, I had 2 normal cycles. Then on day

18 of the third month (Oct. 16th) I started bleeding, I didn't suspect

I was pg. I bled for 2 wks, then called my GYN, she said it was from

breastfeeding and either wait it out or start BC pills. I waited another

week, it was heavier this time, called again ready for the

prescription. The nurse said if there was any chance I could be pg to

do a HPT before starting the pills. I really doubted I was PG, but did

one anyway. I was shocked to find out it was positive. I called the

nurse back and I ended up going for an US that day (Nov. 9th) also had a

HCG drawn, it was 53. I saw the OB on call and he told me it was

possible I had a tubal or I just wasn't far enough along for it to show

up in my uterus. 4 days later, I had another hcg drawn , it was only

77, so we knew at that point that this wasn't a normal pregnancy. This

entire time I have not had any pain. My OB wanted to wait a week and

have another HCG, and on Monday it was 65, I also had another us on

Monday, it confirmed that I do have an ectopic pregnancy. She gave me 3

options. 1) wait a week and see what happens, 2) methotrexate 3)

laproscopy We decided to wait another week and see if it can resolve

itself, If not, I'll have the metho injection on Tuesday. I've read a

lot about it, doesn't sound like much fun, but neither does surgery. I

still am in shock about the entire situation. I told my mom, but we

didn't really want to tell my in-laws (large family), but we had to

cancel our Thanksgiving plans to go out of town, so we had to tell

them. It's so difficult waiting, I go between wanting the metho

asap, to get this started to obcessing about rupturing in the meantime!

I'm glad to have found this board!

[Guest guest]

I am sorry you are going through this. We were ttc when my ep happened, so I

can relate. I understand the emotional rollercoaster you are on, and all the

feelings you are experiencing are normal. I had the metho shot. It was a hard

week -- I am not going to lie, but it is probably better than surgery. If you

work, I would demand that the doctors give you two weeks off work. That is

what I took. Luckily, one was a scheduled vacation, but my body really needed

the time off. Hang in there. Try to have a Happy Thanksgiving. If anything

gets too scary go to the ER. That is what I did, especially if the pain

begins. Hang in there. You are in my thoughts and prayers.

[Guest guest]

Methotextrate is a cancer drug. It stops cells from dividing. I do not even

know if it is FDA approved in the US for eps, but it is for cancer

treatments. It terminates the pregnancy. The way my doctor explained it is

that it will disolve anything that is in there. It is used with eps in place

of surgery only if certain conditions are met. Your success rate of ttc

after the ep is actually higher after the surgery (only a 9% repeat chance of

a ep, as with the metho there is a 12% chance of a repeat ep), but as my

doctors explained, the metho is better in some ways because surgery can be

dangerous because of the anethstesia and scarring of the organs involved. It

stays in your system for about six weeks. I was kind of shocked when I got my

insurance papers in the mail stating that I had chemotherapy. Crazy. What a

whirlwind month.

[Guest guest]

I just had metho injections and am slowly finding information about it. I

had not heard anything about metho causing more scarring and blocking. What

was your follow-up after the metho? Everything happens so fast that you are

just don't have enough information when your asked to make these decisions.

Plus if your doctor isl like mine they don't provide you with enough

information. Thanks Karyn

[Guest guest]

,

Thanks for the welcome and replying. I'm glad to hear from someone who

has had an experience with metho. It's so difficult to decide since there

really isn't that much info out there. One website I found did say that the

tube patency rate was about equal with metho and surgery. My OB/GYN did

think that the metho would be better. I don't like the thought of bleeding

that long and having the daily/hourly reminder. Although with 2 small

children, I don't think surgery is a good option for me either. I have

another HCG in the morning, and we'll go from there. I have actually

stopped bleeding for 2 days now, so I'm hoping that's a good sign. My

OB/GYN seemed pretty confident that it may just take care of itself. Which

is what I'm praying happens. Guess I'll find out tomorrow.

Re: current ectopic pregnancy

> ,

> I'm really sorry you have to go through this, but I'm glad at least

> that you found us.

>

> I'm really sorry it has taken me so long to respond to your message,

> too, and I hope it isn't too late, as I have some opinions about

> methotrexate.

>

> I had methotrexate for my ep in July. I have to say that if I had it

> to do over I >might< choose surgery instead. BUT, my situation was

> somewhat different in that my hCG level when I got metho was 10,000.

> So for me it took 6 weeks for the levels to go down to below 5, and

> going in every week to get the blood taken, hoping for the level to

> say I wasn't pregnant anymore, when I had been so excited--well, it

> was sheer torture. BUT you will NOT have to go through that as low as

> your levels are. Probably just 2 or 3 weeks would get your levels back

> to zero. On balance, in your place I would say the surgery would be

> probably a lot more traumatic than the methotrexate.

>

> The other thing about methotrexate if you want more children, is that

> the prognosis for clear tubes is not necessarily better than surgery.

> There have not been many real studies, but from what I have seen

> methotrexate may be slightly more likely than surgery to cause

> scarring and block your tube. That is what happened to me.

>

> I want to stress that I am not sure what I would do if I were faced

> with the decision again. And >of course< it is completely your

> decision. Surgery is really traumatic, and no one wants to have

> unneccessary surgery. But I was under the impression when I decided

> last summer that the prognosis for metho was better than for surgery,

> and that is not really the case.

>

> I wish you all the best wishes and I am so sorry this happened.

>

> Love and hugs,

>

>

>

> > Hello everyone, I've been reading a couple days..Here's my story.

> > I have 2 boys, (almost 3 and 13 months) I'm breastfeeding the 13 month

> > old. My cycles returned in August, I had 2 normal cycles. Then on day

> > 18 of the third month (Oct. 16th) I started bleeding, I didn't suspect

> > I was pg. I bled for 2 wks, then called my GYN, she said it was from

> > breastfeeding and either wait it out or start BC pills. I waited another

> > week, it was heavier this time, called again ready for the

> > prescription. The nurse said if there was any chance I could be pg to

> > do a HPT before starting the pills. I really doubted I was PG, but did

> > one anyway. I was shocked to find out it was positive. I called the

> > nurse back and I ended up going for an US that day (Nov. 9th) also had a

> > HCG drawn, it was 53. I saw the OB on call and he told me it was

> > possible I had a tubal or I just wasn't far enough along for it to show

> > up in my uterus. 4 days later, I had another hcg drawn , it was only

> > 77, so we knew at that point that this wasn't a normal pregnancy. This

> > entire time I have not had any pain. My OB wanted to wait a week and

> > have another HCG, and on Monday it was 65, I also had another us on

> > Monday, it confirmed that I do have an ectopic pregnancy. She gave me 3

> > options. 1) wait a week and see what happens, 2) methotrexate 3)

> > laproscopy We decided to wait another week and see if it can resolve

> > itself, If not, I'll have the metho injection on Tuesday. I've read a

> > lot about it, doesn't sound like much fun, but neither does surgery. I

> > still am in shock about the entire situation. I told my mom, but we

> > didn't really want to tell my in-laws (large family), but we had to

> > cancel our Thanksgiving plans to go out of town, so we had to tell

> > them. It's so difficult waiting, I go between wanting the metho

> > asap, to get this started to obcessing about rupturing in the meantime!

> > I'm glad to have found this board!

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