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It's hard being that age much less being PG. Shoot my oldest son is 12 and I

can not imagine him being a daddy. I will pray for this girl she has a long

and hard road ahead of here. However, things happen for a reason and God will

see them thru this.

Donna Lay

EDD 10/25/03

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In some states, it is mandatory that they charge the 17 year old. I know the

state was very involved with my nieces case. In fact, they said that they were

also going to charge her mom for neglect for letting it happen in her house..

lack of supervision, condoning the relationship.. stuff like that.

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Very scary. I can honestly say that this happening has certainly had an impact

on my dd and nephew who are both 12. They know that there are consequences for

your actions and they are not always easy. My SIL and I have been completely up

front with each of them about their cousin's situation and they see how it

effects others every day.

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One of the teens that go to my church informed us that her little sister has

hidden a pregnancy.She just turned twelve and will be having a baby in a few

weeks.I'm still in shock! Her mom is pg too!Ther is no dad around.Her 12 yr

daughter is pg by a 17 boy she allowed to stay in her house!This lady has

only daughters and she lets this,,, basically a man!!! stay there.I can't

believe it! Bobbie.....

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Yeah,we live in Tx..I'm not sure what's going to happen.My oldest is also

12...I just can't imagine.I do kinda feel angry at her mom.I cried just

thinking about her little body in labor,it's hard enough on a grown

woman,much less a child.This family needs a lot of prayer.Pray also that

Gods will be done in the precious lives of all the babies involved. Bobbie

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Honestly, that just makes me sick. I certainly hope that that boy

gets his ass kicked really good by that little girls father. I had a

baby at 16, and that was really hard on my body. I could not imagine

how much it is going to do to her little body. Let me have a piece of

him. He had no business. None whatsoever.

Thanks for letting me vent.

Toni

> Yeah,we live in Tx..I'm not sure what's going to happen.My oldest

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> 12...I just can't imagine.I do kinda feel angry at her mom.I cried

just

> thinking about her little body in labor,it's hard enough on a grown

> woman,much less a child.This family needs a lot of prayer.Pray also

that

> Gods will be done in the precious lives of all the babies involved.

Bobbie

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I totally agree.. That boy should get his little pecker cut off.. I mean how

could he.. at age 12... He should be in juvi.. or something... Its just

sick...That poor girl.. I hope that she has good family support and a loving

church family to see her and them through this .. I will be praying for them all

Sheryl from Ca

Antonia wrote:

Honestly, that just makes me sick. I certainly hope that that boy

gets his ass kicked really good by that little girls father. I had a

baby at 16, and that was really hard on my body. I could not imagine

how much it is going to do to her little body. Let me have a piece of

him. He had no business. None whatsoever.

Thanks for letting me vent.

Toni

> Yeah,we live in Tx..I'm not sure what's going to happen.My oldest

is also

> 12...I just can't imagine.I do kinda feel angry at her mom.I cried

just

> thinking about her little body in labor,it's hard enough on a grown

> woman,much less a child.This family needs a lot of prayer.Pray also

that

> Gods will be done in the precious lives of all the babies involved.

Bobbie

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Vent away, I couldn't agree more!

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Why on earth is this 17 year old not in juvie......

" FRIENDS ARE ANGELS WHO LIFT US TO OUR FEET WHEN OUR WINGS HAVE

TROUBLE REMEMBERING HOW TO FLY " .

Cindy-31

DH- Rick-31

DS- Ricky 12

DD-Brittany 11

DD- Clarissa 10

FD- le 6 Presently not with us:-(

TL- 12/92

TR- Dr. Levin 3/13/03

Left 6.5 cm

Right 6cm

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The little girl has no father around.Her mom is pg too but that's not her

dad.I don't know the little girl personally but I do know her older

sister.Her sister is always at the church.I'm sure our church will help them

whatever they decide.We're just waiting to see what they do,so we will know

what action to take...as far as the guy..well I am sure mom is going to have

to answer a few questions to the authorities....Bobbie

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---Unless the authorities aren't notified or are lied to. Seen this

happen many times when I worked with Social services....perhaps

someone can make a phone call to the authorities and give them a

heads up? Sad situation. I have a sister that had an abortion at 14.

I didn't know until I was much older, as my mom didn't want anyone to

know,and was so ashamed. She thought it was a quick fix, later

learned how much she'd regret it. That sister did too. Just my

thoughts, hugs~~kelly

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> The little girl has no father around.Her mom is pg too but that's

not her

> dad.I don't know the little girl personally but I do know her older

> sister.Her sister is always at the church.I'm sure our church will

help them

> whatever they decide.We're just waiting to see what they do,so we

will know

> what action to take...as far as the guy..well I am sure mom is

going to have

> to answer a few questions to the authorities....Bobbie

> Niemi

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Although this is a sad story and I feel horrible for all involved, I

just wanted to point out something that no one has voiced. There

could be another side to this situation. I am not sure of the girl's

upbringing, although, it seems questionable. There is also the

possibility that other factors have contributed. Let's try to

remember that at 17 years old, the " guy " is just a child as well. At

12 years old, things in this young lady's life may have led her to

become sexually aggressive herself - even if it is just a self-esteem

issue. Things such as a role model (her mother), she could be a

possible victim of molestation, lack of a father often times leads

girls to look for " attention " by whatever means. I'm not saying that

it makes this situation right, but I have a family member who was in

a situation such as this (no pregnancy though) and charges were

pressed. In the course of the investigation, we found out several

things. Those of us who know 12 year old girls think that all 12

year old girls are the same. I can tell you that this particular

girl, who was 13, could have gotten into a bar. And not all twelve

year old girls are innocent. I'm not saying that the girl you are

speaking of asked for it or is a tramp...not at all. I'm just saying

that we need to look at things from another perspective sometimes.

Most 17 year old boys are quite immature...heck, I know several 30

year old boys that haven't matured yet. Sometimes bad things happen

to children or they are raised around not-so-positive things. If

they are not given the proper tools to deal with life, sometimes they

don't make very wise choices. My prayers are with all involved.

It's a bad situation, but God has a plan. It just may take some time

to unfold.

Dena

Casper, WY

> > The little girl has no father around.Her mom is pg too but that's

> not her

> > dad.I don't know the little girl personally but I do know her

older

> > sister.Her sister is always at the church.I'm sure our church

will

> help them

> > whatever they decide.We're just waiting to see what they do,so we

> will know

> > what action to take...as far as the guy..well I am sure mom is

> going to have

> > to answer a few questions to the authorities....Bobbie

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Yeah, that pretty much sums up the situation really.Some of us seem innocent

until some of us get caught!I got caught,at 16.Then 18,then 21 and now I'm

trying to get caught again!....sorry I went left feild for a second there!

Bobbie

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Well, now that you put it that way, I guess I agree. My opinions

changed when I had a little girl. Someone once told me, when you have

a boy, you have only one pecker to worry about. When you have a girl,

you have to worry about all of the rest of the peckers in town.

I became sexually active at a very young age, and I attribute it to

abuse stemmed over a period of 10 years. Some of us confuse sex with

love, and it all starts from there. I should not have been so hasty

to verbally attack the young man, but, like I said, it is amazing how

your opinions and views change when you become a parent. I hope she

has a good support group. When I told my mom that I was pregnant, she

threatened me with a " Home abortion " and handed me a grocery sack,

and told me to fill it up with as much as I could, and to get the

hell out. Never in a million years, would I do that to someone.

Especially, my own flesh and blood. I will pray for her and for her

family for strength, and understanding. Thanks for opening my eyes. I

feel better for " seeing " it that way.

Toni in Greeley, Colorado

> > > > The little girl has no father around.Her mom is pg too but

that's

> > > not her

> > > > dad.I don't know the little girl personally but I do know her

> > older

> > > > sister.Her sister is always at the church.I'm sure our church

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> > > help them

> > > > whatever they decide.We're just waiting to see what they

do,so we

> > > will know

> > > > what action to take...as far as the guy..well I am sure mom is

> > > going to have

> > > > to answer a few questions to the authorities....Bobbie

> > > > Niemi

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---good point Dena, know 16yr boys who have been " caught " and much

more innocent than the girl. yeah I know a 41yr. man that likes to be

a boy stil too LOL hugs~~kelly

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> Yeah, that pretty much sums up the situation really.Some of us seem

innocent

> until some of us get caught!I got caught,at 16.Then 18,then 21 and

now I'm

> trying to get caught again!....sorry I went left feild for a second

there!

> Bobbie

> Niemi

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In San Diego there was a case where a 17 year old girl got Pg by a 14 year

old boy. They were both arrested and throw in Juvenille hall. Never heard what

happen after that. Sex is illegal at any age under 18 down there and if parents

or social services want to push it can arrest both parties.

Regardless I know that at the age of 12 I was not the most honest girl about

my age with older boys. I didn't realize the risk that I was playing or taking

until later in life. It scares me to think that I have a 12 year old son and

a 9 year old daughter that are getting close to the age where I was acting

rambuctious. Kids are alot different today then when I was that age. Shoot Dh

and

I still joke that at 12 we were both making out with each other in his tent

in the back yard.

I think there are two sides to every story and to me the 12 year old is just

as guilty as the 17 year old. They are still both kids and have alot of

growing up to do. Regardless of either age they now made a baby and this will

change thier life in some way or other no matter what choice they decided.

Not sure who posted about getting pg and mom handing her a bag and telling

her to pack what she could in there. That is a shame and my heart goes out to

you. I had my son at the age of 17 and my mom dropped me off at a girls home

for unwed teenage moms. Then she moved to Oregan. I feel in my heart that I can

only teach my kids what is right and the choices they make in life are thiers

to live with. I will always love them and stand behind them no matter what.

Donna Lay

EDD 10/25/03

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