R

[Guest guest]

Hi honey,

I am on CD11 (just took clomid last week) soooo baby dancing - here I come!

Except that this weekend CD13-17 I will be at my MIL's house for the weekend

attending a wedding. Makes it hard to bd. But I usually ov around cd18 so

hopefully it's not so important. Fingers crossed!!!!

Are you taking anything to help you ttc?

Luv

~Maree

shara @ cutey.com

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Maree

Thanks Maree...

it's just so weird.... it feels like it's been longer than 9 months yet it

went fast at the same time...

Well, there's always this cycle!!

where are you in your cycle??

Love,

lisa r

[Guest guest]

R,

I just want to wish you lots of luck this month!! +++thoughts and ********* to

you!!!! Let the bd begin and you have the right attitude, 3rd time is a charm!!

tigger89@...> wrote: ~Maree,

I am on cd 7 adn will probably start the bd on cd 9 since I do not know when

I O!! I am not taking anything right now to ttc... I seem to be able to get

pg, though it takes a long time to, just can't seem to hold unto them....

But, the third time is a charm and I am hoping that this is our month!!

Lots of ************************ to you !!

Love,

lisa r

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I saw the post from Nix so I know your in the 2ww so I am sending you tons of

++++++++++++ and baby dust!! Praying for this to be your month!! Please

take care.

Love,

Sheila

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thank you so much for the web address of the Catholic Church in NY with the

shrine for unborn babies. I talked to dh and we are gonna go on the website

one night and look into putting something for our baby. We actually finally

decided to name him(I really had strong boy vibes when I was pg)...we named

our son Connor. It brought so much closure to me with actually naming him

even though it was a bittersweet moment. I remember seeing in one of your

posts how you said when you finally named your children it helped and I want

you to know that it does......thank you so much for posting that you've

really helped me more than you know(smile). Sending you more +++++++ for

this month and baby dust!!!!! Please take care.

Love and hugs,

Sheila

[Guest guest]

,

Honey, I hope you know you are never alone!!! M

tigger89@...> wrote: Hey everyone,

I just wanted to post that we all can't know about everything and to me the

most important thing is hearing from you all... that you understand my

feelings, that you are there for me, that you care and that you do NOT think

I am crazy!!

Sometimes a post that just says, I care and am here for you... is the one

that gets me through another day....

Thanks for being here,

lisa r

[Guest guest]

keri, That is awsome!!!

T

r

r, I really enjoyed that. Thanks for sharing.--Keri

>

> . I received this tonight and it really spoke to me. I wanted to share it

with you. I hope it doesn't offend anyone.

> lisa r

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

> " Why Is There Suffering "

>

> Mental Health Maxims: There is a God. I am not God.

>

> A newspaper reporter phoned a story into his editor about an empty truck that

rolled down a hill and smashed into a home. His editor was unimpressed and told

the reporter he didn't want to run the story. The reporter responded, " I'm glad

you're taking this so calmly-it was your house. "

>

> When polled, the top three questions people would ask God if they had the

chance all have to do with suffering in one way or another. The questions

people would ask consistently revolve around these three issues:

> 1. Why is there suffering?

> 2. Where are you in the midst of suffering?

> 3. What do you want from me?

> In the brief space I have I'm going to foolishly tackle these three

> questions over the next three weeks. The shattering events which started with

September 11th have brought these questions to the fore once again because these

aren't the questions we tend to ask when life is going our way. I know for

myself, I'm aware of suffering, as the newspaper editor was, but it takes on a

whole new meaning when the pain of suffering touches

> my life directly. Questions I might intellectually ask regarding suffering

take on a heart felt urgency when I'm in pain.

>

> However, when I turn to the Bible for answers, my initial quest is always

frustrated for the Bible fails to give a clear, simple answer, especially when

it comes to the problem of innocents suffering. Suffering is assumed as the

fundamental nature of the human condition. On the one hand the Bible

> tells me that human sin has thrown all of creation into the abyss of

suffering. But on the other hand, when the disciples were trying to figure out

what sin caused a man to be born blind, his or his parent's, Jesus said:

> " You're asking the wrong question. You're looking for someone to blame. There

is no such cause-effect here. Look instead for what God can do.

> ( 9:3) It is not the suffering caused by loss that matters-it is what God

can do in the midst of the pain that counts.

>

> Gerald Sittser, who lost his mother, wife, and his young daughter in a

horrible traffic accident caused by a drunk driver, essentially echoed Jesus'

answer to suffering:

> " Loss is as much a part of normal life as birth, for as surely as we

> are born into this world we suffer loss before we leave it. It is not,

therefore, the experience of loss that becomes the defining moment of our lives,

for that is as inevitable as death, which is the last loss awaiting us all. It

is how we respond to loss that matters. That response will largely determine

the quality, the direction, and the impact of our lives. "

> (From the preface of A Grace Disguised, Zondervan, 1995).

>

> Three things can happen as a result of suffering...

>

> First, life becomes real. Suffering focuses life like a laser.

Hawking is an astrophysicist at Cambridge University. Unfortunately, Hawking is

afflicted with ALS Syndrome. Hawking said that before he became ill, he

> had very little interest in life. He called it a " pointless existence "

> resulting from sheer boredom. He drank too much and did very little work.

> Then he learned he had ALS Syndrome and was not expected to live more than two

years. The ultimate effect of that diagnosis, beyond its initial shock, was

extremely positive. He claimed to have been happier after he was afflicted than

before. How can that be understood? Hawking provided the

> answer: " When one's expectations are reduced to zero, " he said, " one really

appreciates everything that one does have. " Stated another way: contentment in

life is determined in part by what a person anticipates from it. To a man like

Hawking who thought he would soon die quickly, everything takes on

> meaning-a sunrise or a walk in a park or the laughter of children.

> Suddenly, each small pleasure becomes precious. By contrast, when I have

believed life " owes " me, I have not appreciated life's finest gifts.

>

> Second, God becomes real. Sufferings brings us face to face without

limitations as human beings. We are forced to wrestle with the truth that we're

not gods-no matter how much we want certain things to happen and other things to

go away-we are powerless. That forces us to deal with God, often

> with first acknowledgment of God's existence being the simplest prayer,

> " Help me! " Sittser experienced the miracle of God's grace in the midst of

the darkness, so that he could later say, " Despite the fact that I have been a

Christian for many years before the accident, since then God has become a living

reality to me as never before. " (page 115). God is always trying

> to get our attention, but in the din of routine life his voice is drowned out

by the mundane. It is the pain that hears God's whisper as never before.

>

> Third, we become real. The Velveteen Rabbit by Margery is the story

of what it means to become " real. " When asked by the Rabbit, " What is Real? "

and " Does it hurt? " , the Skin Horse answered:

> " When you are Real you don't mind being hurt. [becoming real]

> doesn't happen all at once, you become. It takes a long time. That's why it

doesn't often happen to people who break easily, or have sharp edges, or who

have to be carefully kept. Generally, by the time you are Real, most of

> your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the

joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all, because once you

are Real you can't be ugly, except to people who don't understand. "

> Many who have suffered understand because while none welcomed suffering, God

did something in them that couldn't have happened without the refining fire of

suffering.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, I must say, that is cute...it is good to try and laugh. M

tigger89@...> wrote: i always say my dh's spermies didn't want

to ask for directions to the

uterus!! They just got tired and stopped in the tube!! It makes us both

laugh!!

there is no reason for it and you did nothing wrong.

hang in there , it DOES get better, i promise.

lisa r

[Guest guest]

,

I can understand about not really ttc to hard this month but you know I will

keep you in my thoughts anyway....you know, just in case!! (smile)

I am doing pretty good thanks. Just tired and alittle anxious. Thanks for

asking.

M

PS How is Jen doing? Is she feeling better?

tigger89@...> wrote: thanks susan we'll take all the baby dust

we can get. I am really not ttc

very hard this month... I don't want to be devastated on christmas... so if

it happens great, if not, we'll be back to really ttc in January!!

how are you feeling??

lisa r

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I just want you to know I am thinking of you and your sister Kim. She is soo

lucky to have a sister that cares and loves her the way you do!!! Well I

will let you go for now but not without some ++++++++++++++s coming your way

and baby dust!!! Please take care.

((((((((((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))))

Love

Sheila

[Guest guest]

,

I would be truly honored and blessed to have you

for a cyber-sister :)

Terri

--- tigger89@...> wrote:

> Thanks Terri!

>

> I just feel that a lot of the times my friend can't

> handle her two kids and

> she gets another before I get one... sounds selfish,

> petty and envious

> ...all things i do NOT want to be. Yet, sharing it,

> makes it less...

>

> Don't get me wrong, I am thrilled to be aunt lisa

> again and will shower that

> baby with all my love just like its siblings... it's

> just that sometimes it

> hurts. I also feel selfish wanting more since I have

> soo much. I think of

> all the victims of 9/11 and feel really guilty....

>

> Thanks for letting me share. And by the way, I'd

> like to be your sister

> too. So what about it?? We could " adopt " each

> other and

> " cyber-sisters " ....

>

> Love,

> lisa r

>

>

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[Guest guest]

,

Hey, when I had my metho shot, I was told I would bleed.....

M

tigger89@...> wrote: Thanks Molly!

I was wondering if you bled after you had the metho shot? So far my sister

hasnt'.

How are you doing??

lisa r

[Guest guest]

,

I'll be thinking of your sister.....let me know how things go with her dr's apt.

I am doing ok, thanks for asking.....patiently waiting....well, ok, sometimes

not so patiently!!! lol!! M

tigger89@...> wrote: Thanks susan. My sister goes to the dr

tomorrow and I told her to ask them.

It makes sense to me that she would bleed.

How are you feeling??

Love,

lisa r