Re: Potty issues at school

[Guest guest]

I know how you feel. Lucas is 3.8 and is the only kid in daycare wearing

pullups. I hate it. He does well at home and will not tell the daycre when he

has to go.

michelewasikowski <michelewasikowski@...> wrote: My son just

started kindergarten this month in a new school district

and was approved for an aide to help with potty issues as well to

help use his augmentative communication device. Well I found

out on Monday that this aide has not started yet (4 weeks into

school). I was told she was starting the Friday of the first week

of school. So in the meantime the special ed teacher has been

taking him. The first week and a hald he did fine, urintated for

them, no accidents. Well the last 2 weeks he will not go for her

and has accidents everyday 2-3 times a day. The teacher tells me she

brings him every 15-20 minutes to avoid accidents, but it does not

seem to be helping.

At home tells me when he has to use the bathroom and goes and

does not have accidents. Last year at his old school he did not

tell them, but they trip trained him and he rarely had accidents.

So I know it is not a sensory issue where he does not feel the need

to go.

Anyways today I get a note home asking if he could wear pull ups

because he is missing so much school being brought to the potty and

getting cleaned up from accidents. I am livid. I have replied

absolutely not. It took a long time to get to this point with

and I am not about to step backwards, especially since his aide has

not started yet.

I am upset with because I know he can do it and I am not sure

what is going on. He is a non-verbal global apraxic child so he

cannot tell me what is going on. I know rewards and bribes work for

me at home, but I do not think the teacher is using my tricks I have

told her and outlined for her and so he keeps having accidents and

worse off does not tell them and sits in it until they notice.

I am up at 1:30am right now because I am so upset and can't sleep

over it. The worse is I know kids are going to make fun of him, if

they already have not for all these accidents, which was the reason

for her asking to use pull ups.

Has anyone ran into these issues? How have you resolved them? What

would you do in my shoes?

Michele

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

I am not an expert but I do have a background in child psychology and potty

issues are generally associated with control and emotional issues. If your son

has no problems communicating his need to potty at home, than the issue is his

time at school. If I recall correctly, you said that is non-verbal. But

it sounds to me if he is having that many " accidents " than it is either a

medical condition ( my daughter had to have surgery for this problem) or is

trying to communicate his emotions through the accidents. Again, I am not an

expert, but it may be something to consider

michelewasikowski <michelewasikowski@...> wrote:

My son just started kindergarten this month in a new school district

and was approved for an aide to help with potty issues as well to

help use his augmentative communication device. Well I found

out on Monday that this aide has not started yet (4 weeks into

school). I was told she was starting the Friday of the first week

of school. So in the meantime the special ed teacher has been

taking him. The first week and a hald he did fine, urintated for

them, no accidents. Well the last 2 weeks he will not go for her

and has accidents everyday 2-3 times a day. The teacher tells me she

brings him every 15-20 minutes to avoid accidents, but it does not

seem to be helping.

At home tells me when he has to use the bathroom and goes and

does not have accidents. Last year at his old school he did not

tell them, but they trip trained him and he rarely had accidents.

So I know it is not a sensory issue where he does not feel the need

to go.

Anyways today I get a note home asking if he could wear pull ups

because he is missing so much school being brought to the potty and

getting cleaned up from accidents. I am livid. I have replied

absolutely not. It took a long time to get to this point with

and I am not about to step backwards, especially since his aide has

not started yet.

I am upset with because I know he can do it and I am not sure

what is going on. He is a non-verbal global apraxic child so he

cannot tell me what is going on. I know rewards and bribes work for

me at home, but I do not think the teacher is using my tricks I have

told her and outlined for her and so he keeps having accidents and

worse off does not tell them and sits in it until they notice.

I am up at 1:30am right now because I am so upset and can't sleep

over it. The worse is I know kids are going to make fun of him, if

they already have not for all these accidents, which was the reason

for her asking to use pull ups.

Has anyone ran into these issues? How have you resolved them? What

would you do in my shoes?

Michele

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I have certainly written alot of 2 and 3 am emails due to frustration and

inability to sleelp. You are not alone!

What about getting the bathroom routine, timing, reward system etc into his

IEP also naming who is responsible for this. May want to state if aide is not

up and running on day one of school it will be XX's responsiblity. I can

understand totally why you don't want to return to diapers from the progress he

is making. He needs the correct support. It sounds like it is probably the

routine, and not some medical reason, if he is able to follow routine at home.

You may want to mention that too when you are pulling together a plan. If he is

on an IEP, just call a TEAM mtg to discuss and plan this out. Doctor's letters

supporting your plan are always helpful too.

Hope this helps and good luck.

karen

Jill Valdez <jmv_weinc@...> wrote:

I know how you feel. Lucas is 3.8 and is the only kid in daycare

wearing pullups. I hate it. He does well at home and will not tell the daycre

when he has to go.

michelewasikowski <michelewasikowski@...> wrote: My son just started

kindergarten this month in a new school district

and was approved for an aide to help with potty issues as well to

help use his augmentative communication device. Well I found

out on Monday that this aide has not started yet (4 weeks into

school). I was told she was starting the Friday of the first week

of school. So in the meantime the special ed teacher has been

taking him. The first week and a hald he did fine, urintated for

them, no accidents. Well the last 2 weeks he will not go for her

and has accidents everyday 2-3 times a day. The teacher tells me she

brings him every 15-20 minutes to avoid accidents, but it does not

seem to be helping.

At home tells me when he has to use the bathroom and goes and

does not have accidents. Last year at his old school he did not

tell them, but they trip trained him and he rarely had accidents.

So I know it is not a sensory issue where he does not feel the need

to go.

Anyways today I get a note home asking if he could wear pull ups

because he is missing so much school being brought to the potty and

getting cleaned up from accidents. I am livid. I have replied

absolutely not. It took a long time to get to this point with

and I am not about to step backwards, especially since his aide has

not started yet.

I am upset with because I know he can do it and I am not sure

what is going on. He is a non-verbal global apraxic child so he

cannot tell me what is going on. I know rewards and bribes work for

me at home, but I do not think the teacher is using my tricks I have

told her and outlined for her and so he keeps having accidents and

worse off does not tell them and sits in it until they notice.

I am up at 1:30am right now because I am so upset and can't sleep

over it. The worse is I know kids are going to make fun of him, if

they already have not for all these accidents, which was the reason

for her asking to use pull ups.

Has anyone ran into these issues? How have you resolved them? What

would you do in my shoes?

Michele

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Well, I'm kindof in the same boat.. my 6 yr. old started K-1 inclusion class

and he is the only one in pullups and I tried my hardest (he did too) this

summer to get him in big boy underwear, worked for a couple weeks then right

when school was about to start I said " Yeah tomorrow your going to school in

Kindergarten like a big boy! " He is 20% intelligable and functions just like

all the others but hardly speaks when he's there, anyway he looked at me that

day and had a tear in his eye and said, " with diapee? " I said do you want to

try w/big boy underwear? He said " BO " w/ a scream I've never heard before and

I caved and said O.K. you can start in pull-ups.. I totally went 500 steps

backwards. I just saw all the anxiety in his face and thought school w/typical

kids is going to be hard enough let alone him trying to find the words to say

pee or poo. He is in this class w/out an aide and is doing great (2weeks)

except for the damn pullup situation. He

also doesn't chew his food yet (has never) but takes pudding and applesauce to

school for lunch. Been in eating therapy 3 years and so far so slow!!! But he

did learn to suck thru a straw so he can bring juice boxes like all the other

kids (yeah). Anyway all I'm saying is I feel he's so smart and will realize

soon enough he " is " the only one in pull-ups and will want to be like everyone

else sooner than later...So, I chose to let his first day of school to be as

stress free (on that end) LOL as possible. ??? I feel I did the right thing for

him. He seems to LOVE his school and LOVES going..Choose what's really

important to him for the moment. He will eventually be out of diapers I

promise.

Take it w/stride

Jill Valdez <jmv_weinc@...> wrote:

I know how you feel. Lucas is 3.8 and is the only kid in daycare wearing

pullups. I hate it. He does well at home and will not tell the daycre when he

has to go.

michelewasikowski <michelewasikowski@...> wrote: My son just

started kindergarten this month in a new school district

and was approved for an aide to help with potty issues as well to

help use his augmentative communication device. Well I found

out on Monday that this aide has not started yet (4 weeks into

school). I was told she was starting the Friday of the first week

of school. So in the meantime the special ed teacher has been

taking him. The first week and a hald he did fine, urintated for

them, no accidents. Well the last 2 weeks he will not go for her

and has accidents everyday 2-3 times a day. The teacher tells me she

brings him every 15-20 minutes to avoid accidents, but it does not

seem to be helping.

At home tells me when he has to use the bathroom and goes and

does not have accidents. Last year at his old school he did not

tell them, but they trip trained him and he rarely had accidents.

So I know it is not a sensory issue where he does not feel the need

to go.

Anyways today I get a note home asking if he could wear pull ups

because he is missing so much school being brought to the potty and

getting cleaned up from accidents. I am livid. I have replied

absolutely not. It took a long time to get to this point with

and I am not about to step backwards, especially since his aide has

not started yet.

I am upset with because I know he can do it and I am not sure

what is going on. He is a non-verbal global apraxic child so he

cannot tell me what is going on. I know rewards and bribes work for

me at home, but I do not think the teacher is using my tricks I have

told her and outlined for her and so he keeps having accidents and

worse off does not tell them and sits in it until they notice.

I am up at 1:30am right now because I am so upset and can't sleep

over it. The worse is I know kids are going to make fun of him, if

they already have not for all these accidents, which was the reason

for her asking to use pull ups.

Has anyone ran into these issues? How have you resolved them? What

would you do in my shoes?

Michele

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[Guest guest]

I know how you feel. Lucas is 3.8 and is the only kid in daycare wearing

pullups. I hate it. He does well at home and will not tell the daycre when he

has to go.

michelewasikowski <michelewasikowski@...> wrote: My son just

started kindergarten this month in a new school district

and was approved for an aide to help with potty issues as well to

help use his augmentative communication device. Well I found

out on Monday that this aide has not started yet (4 weeks into

school). I was told she was starting the Friday of the first week

of school. So in the meantime the special ed teacher has been

taking him. The first week and a hald he did fine, urintated for

them, no accidents. Well the last 2 weeks he will not go for her

and has accidents everyday 2-3 times a day. The teacher tells me she

brings him every 15-20 minutes to avoid accidents, but it does not

seem to be helping.

At home tells me when he has to use the bathroom and goes and

does not have accidents. Last year at his old school he did not

tell them, but they trip trained him and he rarely had accidents.

So I know it is not a sensory issue where he does not feel the need

to go.

Anyways today I get a note home asking if he could wear pull ups

because he is missing so much school being brought to the potty and

getting cleaned up from accidents. I am livid. I have replied

absolutely not. It took a long time to get to this point with

and I am not about to step backwards, especially since his aide has

not started yet.

I am upset with because I know he can do it and I am not sure

what is going on. He is a non-verbal global apraxic child so he

cannot tell me what is going on. I know rewards and bribes work for

me at home, but I do not think the teacher is using my tricks I have

told her and outlined for her and so he keeps having accidents and

worse off does not tell them and sits in it until they notice.

I am up at 1:30am right now because I am so upset and can't sleep

over it. The worse is I know kids are going to make fun of him, if

they already have not for all these accidents, which was the reason

for her asking to use pull ups.

Has anyone ran into these issues? How have you resolved them? What

would you do in my shoes?

Michele

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

I am not an expert but I do have a background in child psychology and potty

issues are generally associated with control and emotional issues. If your son

has no problems communicating his need to potty at home, than the issue is his

time at school. If I recall correctly, you said that is non-verbal. But

it sounds to me if he is having that many " accidents " than it is either a

medical condition ( my daughter had to have surgery for this problem) or is

trying to communicate his emotions through the accidents. Again, I am not an

expert, but it may be something to consider

michelewasikowski <michelewasikowski@...> wrote:

My son just started kindergarten this month in a new school district

and was approved for an aide to help with potty issues as well to

help use his augmentative communication device. Well I found

out on Monday that this aide has not started yet (4 weeks into

school). I was told she was starting the Friday of the first week

of school. So in the meantime the special ed teacher has been

taking him. The first week and a hald he did fine, urintated for

them, no accidents. Well the last 2 weeks he will not go for her

and has accidents everyday 2-3 times a day. The teacher tells me she

brings him every 15-20 minutes to avoid accidents, but it does not

seem to be helping.

At home tells me when he has to use the bathroom and goes and

does not have accidents. Last year at his old school he did not

tell them, but they trip trained him and he rarely had accidents.

So I know it is not a sensory issue where he does not feel the need

to go.

Anyways today I get a note home asking if he could wear pull ups

because he is missing so much school being brought to the potty and

getting cleaned up from accidents. I am livid. I have replied

absolutely not. It took a long time to get to this point with

and I am not about to step backwards, especially since his aide has

not started yet.

I am upset with because I know he can do it and I am not sure

what is going on. He is a non-verbal global apraxic child so he

cannot tell me what is going on. I know rewards and bribes work for

me at home, but I do not think the teacher is using my tricks I have

told her and outlined for her and so he keeps having accidents and

worse off does not tell them and sits in it until they notice.

I am up at 1:30am right now because I am so upset and can't sleep

over it. The worse is I know kids are going to make fun of him, if

they already have not for all these accidents, which was the reason

for her asking to use pull ups.

Has anyone ran into these issues? How have you resolved them? What

would you do in my shoes?

Michele

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I have certainly written alot of 2 and 3 am emails due to frustration and

inability to sleelp. You are not alone!

What about getting the bathroom routine, timing, reward system etc into his

IEP also naming who is responsible for this. May want to state if aide is not

up and running on day one of school it will be XX's responsiblity. I can

understand totally why you don't want to return to diapers from the progress he

is making. He needs the correct support. It sounds like it is probably the

routine, and not some medical reason, if he is able to follow routine at home.

You may want to mention that too when you are pulling together a plan. If he is

on an IEP, just call a TEAM mtg to discuss and plan this out. Doctor's letters

supporting your plan are always helpful too.

Hope this helps and good luck.

karen

Jill Valdez <jmv_weinc@...> wrote:

I know how you feel. Lucas is 3.8 and is the only kid in daycare

wearing pullups. I hate it. He does well at home and will not tell the daycre

when he has to go.

michelewasikowski <michelewasikowski@...> wrote: My son just started

kindergarten this month in a new school district

and was approved for an aide to help with potty issues as well to

help use his augmentative communication device. Well I found

out on Monday that this aide has not started yet (4 weeks into

school). I was told she was starting the Friday of the first week

of school. So in the meantime the special ed teacher has been

taking him. The first week and a hald he did fine, urintated for

them, no accidents. Well the last 2 weeks he will not go for her

and has accidents everyday 2-3 times a day. The teacher tells me she

brings him every 15-20 minutes to avoid accidents, but it does not

seem to be helping.

At home tells me when he has to use the bathroom and goes and

does not have accidents. Last year at his old school he did not

tell them, but they trip trained him and he rarely had accidents.

So I know it is not a sensory issue where he does not feel the need

to go.

Anyways today I get a note home asking if he could wear pull ups

because he is missing so much school being brought to the potty and

getting cleaned up from accidents. I am livid. I have replied

absolutely not. It took a long time to get to this point with

and I am not about to step backwards, especially since his aide has

not started yet.

I am upset with because I know he can do it and I am not sure

what is going on. He is a non-verbal global apraxic child so he

cannot tell me what is going on. I know rewards and bribes work for

me at home, but I do not think the teacher is using my tricks I have

told her and outlined for her and so he keeps having accidents and

worse off does not tell them and sits in it until they notice.

I am up at 1:30am right now because I am so upset and can't sleep

over it. The worse is I know kids are going to make fun of him, if

they already have not for all these accidents, which was the reason

for her asking to use pull ups.

Has anyone ran into these issues? How have you resolved them? What

would you do in my shoes?

Michele

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Well, I'm kindof in the same boat.. my 6 yr. old started K-1 inclusion class

and he is the only one in pullups and I tried my hardest (he did too) this

summer to get him in big boy underwear, worked for a couple weeks then right

when school was about to start I said " Yeah tomorrow your going to school in

Kindergarten like a big boy! " He is 20% intelligable and functions just like

all the others but hardly speaks when he's there, anyway he looked at me that

day and had a tear in his eye and said, " with diapee? " I said do you want to

try w/big boy underwear? He said " BO " w/ a scream I've never heard before and

I caved and said O.K. you can start in pull-ups.. I totally went 500 steps

backwards. I just saw all the anxiety in his face and thought school w/typical

kids is going to be hard enough let alone him trying to find the words to say

pee or poo. He is in this class w/out an aide and is doing great (2weeks)

except for the damn pullup situation. He

also doesn't chew his food yet (has never) but takes pudding and applesauce to

school for lunch. Been in eating therapy 3 years and so far so slow!!! But he

did learn to suck thru a straw so he can bring juice boxes like all the other

kids (yeah). Anyway all I'm saying is I feel he's so smart and will realize

soon enough he " is " the only one in pull-ups and will want to be like everyone

else sooner than later...So, I chose to let his first day of school to be as

stress free (on that end) LOL as possible. ??? I feel I did the right thing for

him. He seems to LOVE his school and LOVES going..Choose what's really

important to him for the moment. He will eventually be out of diapers I

promise.

Take it w/stride

Jill Valdez <jmv_weinc@...> wrote:

I know how you feel. Lucas is 3.8 and is the only kid in daycare wearing

pullups. I hate it. He does well at home and will not tell the daycre when he

has to go.

michelewasikowski <michelewasikowski@...> wrote: My son just

started kindergarten this month in a new school district

and was approved for an aide to help with potty issues as well to

help use his augmentative communication device. Well I found

out on Monday that this aide has not started yet (4 weeks into

school). I was told she was starting the Friday of the first week

of school. So in the meantime the special ed teacher has been

taking him. The first week and a hald he did fine, urintated for

them, no accidents. Well the last 2 weeks he will not go for her

and has accidents everyday 2-3 times a day. The teacher tells me she

brings him every 15-20 minutes to avoid accidents, but it does not

seem to be helping.

At home tells me when he has to use the bathroom and goes and

does not have accidents. Last year at his old school he did not

tell them, but they trip trained him and he rarely had accidents.

So I know it is not a sensory issue where he does not feel the need

to go.

Anyways today I get a note home asking if he could wear pull ups

because he is missing so much school being brought to the potty and

getting cleaned up from accidents. I am livid. I have replied

absolutely not. It took a long time to get to this point with

and I am not about to step backwards, especially since his aide has

not started yet.

I am upset with because I know he can do it and I am not sure

what is going on. He is a non-verbal global apraxic child so he

cannot tell me what is going on. I know rewards and bribes work for

me at home, but I do not think the teacher is using my tricks I have

told her and outlined for her and so he keeps having accidents and

worse off does not tell them and sits in it until they notice.

I am up at 1:30am right now because I am so upset and can't sleep

over it. The worse is I know kids are going to make fun of him, if

they already have not for all these accidents, which was the reason

for her asking to use pull ups.

Has anyone ran into these issues? How have you resolved them? What

would you do in my shoes?

Michele

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

It sounds as if you need to see your peditrician..I got a printout of the

technical terminology that our peditrician called it but it really is

controlled by stress in going into a new situation..It is literally out of

the childs control..the fear of having an accident is so overwhelming and to

top it off have a teacher who doesn't understand what the child is asking so

feeling helpless when brushed aside compounds the fear and than the accident

occurs. The letter from the peditrician helped for us for a few days but

than when our daughter had a problem opening the bathroom door and these

were heavy doors with pull down lever doors the fear was compounded to

hysteria and she couldn't tell me what was the problem..I cringe now just

thinking about it. I am working on getting a wrist control for her to press

when she needs to go to the bathroom and is in a new environment and is too

stressed to use the bathroom sign or ask which she can do at home with

words. We did purchase the wrist talker by enablingdevices but it is pretty

cumbersome and meant for a larger wrist than my daughters but it will have

to do for now.

Definitely do not blame your child in this situation..The child needs to be

allowed to go to the bathroom whenever they feel the need and it must be a

bathroom that they are comfortable to go into.

's Mom

_____

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of michelewasikowski

Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 1:36 AM

Subject: [ ] Potty issues at school

My son just started kindergarten this month in a new school district

and was approved for an aide to help with potty issues as well to

help use his augmentative communication device. Well I found

out on Monday that this aide has not started yet (4 weeks into

school). I was told she was starting the Friday of the first week

of school. So in the meantime the special ed teacher has been

taking him. The first week and a hald he did fine, urintated for

them, no accidents. Well the last 2 weeks he will not go for her

and has accidents everyday 2-3 times a day. The teacher tells me she

brings him every 15-20 minutes to avoid accidents, but it does not

seem to be helping.

At home tells me when he has to use the bathroom and goes and

does not have accidents. Last year at his old school he did not

tell them, but they trip trained him and he rarely had accidents.

So I know it is not a sensory issue where he does not feel the need

to go.

Anyways today I get a note home asking if he could wear pull ups

because he is missing so much school being brought to the potty and

getting cleaned up from accidents. I am livid. I have replied

absolutely not. It took a long time to get to this point with

and I am not about to step backwards, especially since his aide has

not started yet.

I am upset with because I know he can do it and I am not sure

what is going on. He is a non-verbal global apraxic child so he

cannot tell me what is going on. I know rewards and bribes work for

me at home, but I do not think the teacher is using my tricks I have

told her and outlined for her and so he keeps having accidents and

worse off does not tell them and sits in it until they notice.

I am up at 1:30am right now because I am so upset and can't sleep

over it. The worse is I know kids are going to make fun of him, if

they already have not for all these accidents, which was the reason

for her asking to use pull ups.

Has anyone ran into these issues? How have you resolved them? What

would you do in my shoes?

Michele

[Guest guest]

Oh, I'm having the worst time with potty training my 3 1/2 yr. old son. We've

been trying the

potty training all summer. He's wearing a pull-up to preschool, but now I think

he's holding

it. Ok- I could go on and on.

But, I think for now letting your son just wear the pull ups might be the least

stressful thing

for everybody right now. I'd imagine that having accidents in the classroom

would be worse.

Maybe your son is reacting to going back to school, and that being a major

change in his

routine. Also, new teachers, new kids, new classroom. All that " new stuff " can

be

overwhelming. Perhaps it will get better as he adjusts to everything around

him.

JustMy2cents,

[Guest guest]

It sounds as if you need to see your peditrician..I got a printout of the

technical terminology that our peditrician called it but it really is

controlled by stress in going into a new situation..It is literally out of

the childs control..the fear of having an accident is so overwhelming and to

top it off have a teacher who doesn't understand what the child is asking so

feeling helpless when brushed aside compounds the fear and than the accident

occurs. The letter from the peditrician helped for us for a few days but

than when our daughter had a problem opening the bathroom door and these

were heavy doors with pull down lever doors the fear was compounded to

hysteria and she couldn't tell me what was the problem..I cringe now just

thinking about it. I am working on getting a wrist control for her to press

when she needs to go to the bathroom and is in a new environment and is too

stressed to use the bathroom sign or ask which she can do at home with

words. We did purchase the wrist talker by enablingdevices but it is pretty

cumbersome and meant for a larger wrist than my daughters but it will have

to do for now.

Definitely do not blame your child in this situation..The child needs to be

allowed to go to the bathroom whenever they feel the need and it must be a

bathroom that they are comfortable to go into.

's Mom

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From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of michelewasikowski

Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 1:36 AM

Subject: [ ] Potty issues at school

My son just started kindergarten this month in a new school district

and was approved for an aide to help with potty issues as well to

help use his augmentative communication device. Well I found

out on Monday that this aide has not started yet (4 weeks into

school). I was told she was starting the Friday of the first week

of school. So in the meantime the special ed teacher has been

taking him. The first week and a hald he did fine, urintated for

them, no accidents. Well the last 2 weeks he will not go for her

and has accidents everyday 2-3 times a day. The teacher tells me she

brings him every 15-20 minutes to avoid accidents, but it does not

seem to be helping.

At home tells me when he has to use the bathroom and goes and

does not have accidents. Last year at his old school he did not

tell them, but they trip trained him and he rarely had accidents.

So I know it is not a sensory issue where he does not feel the need

to go.

Anyways today I get a note home asking if he could wear pull ups

because he is missing so much school being brought to the potty and

getting cleaned up from accidents. I am livid. I have replied

absolutely not. It took a long time to get to this point with

and I am not about to step backwards, especially since his aide has

not started yet.

I am upset with because I know he can do it and I am not sure

what is going on. He is a non-verbal global apraxic child so he

cannot tell me what is going on. I know rewards and bribes work for

me at home, but I do not think the teacher is using my tricks I have

told her and outlined for her and so he keeps having accidents and

worse off does not tell them and sits in it until they notice.

I am up at 1:30am right now because I am so upset and can't sleep

over it. The worse is I know kids are going to make fun of him, if

they already have not for all these accidents, which was the reason

for her asking to use pull ups.

Has anyone ran into these issues? How have you resolved them? What

would you do in my shoes?

Michele

[Guest guest]

Oh, I'm having the worst time with potty training my 3 1/2 yr. old son. We've

been trying the

potty training all summer. He's wearing a pull-up to preschool, but now I think

he's holding

it. Ok- I could go on and on.

But, I think for now letting your son just wear the pull ups might be the least

stressful thing

for everybody right now. I'd imagine that having accidents in the classroom

would be worse.

Maybe your son is reacting to going back to school, and that being a major

change in his

routine. Also, new teachers, new kids, new classroom. All that " new stuff " can

be

overwhelming. Perhaps it will get better as he adjusts to everything around

him.

JustMy2cents,

[Guest guest]

Hi Michele,

First off...how are they getting away with not having his aide yet...That is

completely unacceptable..it is in your iep..then he needs one now...no more time

should go by without this....this is the perfect example of why he needs this

aide....i am sure the teacher is busy and not putting enough focus on 's

needs...get in there and get this aide...asap

[ ] Potty issues at school

My son just started kindergarten this month in a new school district

and was approved for an aide to help with potty issues as well to

help use his augmentative communication device. Well I found

out on Monday that this aide has not started yet (4 weeks into

school). I was told she was starting the Friday of the first week

of school. So in the meantime the special ed teacher has been

taking him. The first week and a hald he did fine, urintated for

them, no accidents. Well the last 2 weeks he will not go for her

and has accidents everyday 2-3 times a day. The teacher tells me she

brings him every 15-20 minutes to avoid accidents, but it does not

seem to be helping.

At home tells me when he has to use the bathroom and goes and

does not have accidents. Last year at his old school he did not

tell them, but they trip trained him and he rarely had accidents.

So I know it is not a sensory issue where he does not feel the need

to go.

Anyways today I get a note home asking if he could wear pull ups

because he is missing so much school being brought to the potty and

getting cleaned up from accidents. I am livid. I have replied

absolutely not. It took a long time to get to this point with

and I am not about to step backwards, especially since his aide has

not started yet.

I am upset with because I know he can do it and I am not sure

what is going on. He is a non-verbal global apraxic child so he

cannot tell me what is going on. I know rewards and bribes work for

me at home, but I do not think the teacher is using my tricks I have

told her and outlined for her and so he keeps having accidents and

worse off does not tell them and sits in it until they notice.

I am up at 1:30am right now because I am so upset and can't sleep

over it. The worse is I know kids are going to make fun of him, if

they already have not for all these accidents, which was the reason

for her asking to use pull ups.

Has anyone ran into these issues? How have you resolved them? What

would you do in my shoes?

Michele

[Guest guest]

Hi Michele,

First off...how are they getting away with not having his aide yet...That is

completely unacceptable..it is in your iep..then he needs one now...no more time

should go by without this....this is the perfect example of why he needs this

aide....i am sure the teacher is busy and not putting enough focus on 's

needs...get in there and get this aide...asap

[ ] Potty issues at school

My son just started kindergarten this month in a new school district

and was approved for an aide to help with potty issues as well to

help use his augmentative communication device. Well I found

out on Monday that this aide has not started yet (4 weeks into

school). I was told she was starting the Friday of the first week

of school. So in the meantime the special ed teacher has been

taking him. The first week and a hald he did fine, urintated for

them, no accidents. Well the last 2 weeks he will not go for her

and has accidents everyday 2-3 times a day. The teacher tells me she

brings him every 15-20 minutes to avoid accidents, but it does not

seem to be helping.

At home tells me when he has to use the bathroom and goes and

does not have accidents. Last year at his old school he did not

tell them, but they trip trained him and he rarely had accidents.

So I know it is not a sensory issue where he does not feel the need

to go.

Anyways today I get a note home asking if he could wear pull ups

because he is missing so much school being brought to the potty and

getting cleaned up from accidents. I am livid. I have replied

absolutely not. It took a long time to get to this point with

and I am not about to step backwards, especially since his aide has

not started yet.

I am upset with because I know he can do it and I am not sure

what is going on. He is a non-verbal global apraxic child so he

cannot tell me what is going on. I know rewards and bribes work for

me at home, but I do not think the teacher is using my tricks I have

told her and outlined for her and so he keeps having accidents and

worse off does not tell them and sits in it until they notice.

I am up at 1:30am right now because I am so upset and can't sleep

over it. The worse is I know kids are going to make fun of him, if

they already have not for all these accidents, which was the reason

for her asking to use pull ups.

Has anyone ran into these issues? How have you resolved them? What

would you do in my shoes?

Michele

[Guest guest]

She started this past Monday. But the IEP states

will share and aide, so we still had issues yesterday.

The teacher and all his therapist think he should

have a one on one aide. But they won't suggest it,

they said I have to ask for it at a PPT and they will

back it up. Our PPT is not till Oct 10th, at my

request (till the interim director of special ed

leaves). The new one starts the first week in Oct.

It is so behavioral and there only solution is pull

ups b/c they cannot carry out what works for me at

home because he does not have a one on one aide.

Will I see you tomorrow night?

Michele

--- kristen iannone <KIANNONE@...> wrote:

> Hi Michele,

>

> First off...how are they getting away with not

> having his aide yet...That is completely

> unacceptable..it is in your iep..then he needs one

> now...no more time should go by without this....this

> is the perfect example of why he needs this

> aide....i am sure the teacher is busy and not

> putting enough focus on 's needs...get in there

> and get this aide...asap

>

>

> [ ] Potty issues at

> school

>

>

> My son just started kindergarten this month in a

> new school district

> and was approved for an aide to help with potty

> issues as well to

> help use his augmentative communication

> device. Well I found

> out on Monday that this aide has not started yet

> (4 weeks into

> school). I was told she was starting the Friday of

> the first week

> of school. So in the meantime the special ed

> teacher has been

> taking him. The first week and a hald he did fine,

> urintated for

> them, no accidents. Well the last 2 weeks he will

> not go for her

> and has accidents everyday 2-3 times a day. The

> teacher tells me she

> brings him every 15-20 minutes to avoid accidents,

> but it does not

> seem to be helping.

>

> At home tells me when he has to use the

> bathroom and goes and

> does not have accidents. Last year at his old

> school he did not

> tell them, but they trip trained him and he rarely

> had accidents.

> So I know it is not a sensory issue where he does

> not feel the need

> to go.

>

> Anyways today I get a note home asking if he could

> wear pull ups

> because he is missing so much school being brought

> to the potty and

> getting cleaned up from accidents. I am livid. I

> have replied

> absolutely not. It took a long time to get to this

> point with

> and I am not about to step backwards, especially

> since his aide has

> not started yet.

>

> I am upset with because I know he can do it

> and I am not sure

> what is going on. He is a non-verbal global

> apraxic child so he

> cannot tell me what is going on. I know rewards

> and bribes work for

> me at home, but I do not think the teacher is

> using my tricks I have

> told her and outlined for her and so he keeps

> having accidents and

> worse off does not tell them and sits in it until

> they notice.

>

> I am up at 1:30am right now because I am so upset

> and can't sleep

> over it. The worse is I know kids are going to

> make fun of him, if

> they already have not for all these accidents,

> which was the reason

> for her asking to use pull ups.

>

> Has anyone ran into these issues? How have you

> resolved them? What

> would you do in my shoes?

>

> Michele

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

She started this past Monday. But the IEP states

will share and aide, so we still had issues yesterday.

The teacher and all his therapist think he should

have a one on one aide. But they won't suggest it,

they said I have to ask for it at a PPT and they will

back it up. Our PPT is not till Oct 10th, at my

request (till the interim director of special ed

leaves). The new one starts the first week in Oct.

It is so behavioral and there only solution is pull

ups b/c they cannot carry out what works for me at

home because he does not have a one on one aide.

Will I see you tomorrow night?

Michele

--- kristen iannone <KIANNONE@...> wrote:

> Hi Michele,

>

> First off...how are they getting away with not

> having his aide yet...That is completely

> unacceptable..it is in your iep..then he needs one

> now...no more time should go by without this....this

> is the perfect example of why he needs this

> aide....i am sure the teacher is busy and not

> putting enough focus on 's needs...get in there

> and get this aide...asap

>

>

> [ ] Potty issues at

> school

>

>

> My son just started kindergarten this month in a

> new school district

> and was approved for an aide to help with potty

> issues as well to

> help use his augmentative communication

> device. Well I found

> out on Monday that this aide has not started yet

> (4 weeks into

> school). I was told she was starting the Friday of

> the first week

> of school. So in the meantime the special ed

> teacher has been

> taking him. The first week and a hald he did fine,

> urintated for

> them, no accidents. Well the last 2 weeks he will

> not go for her

> and has accidents everyday 2-3 times a day. The

> teacher tells me she

> brings him every 15-20 minutes to avoid accidents,

> but it does not

> seem to be helping.

>

> At home tells me when he has to use the

> bathroom and goes and

> does not have accidents. Last year at his old

> school he did not

> tell them, but they trip trained him and he rarely

> had accidents.

> So I know it is not a sensory issue where he does

> not feel the need

> to go.

>

> Anyways today I get a note home asking if he could

> wear pull ups

> because he is missing so much school being brought

> to the potty and

> getting cleaned up from accidents. I am livid. I

> have replied

> absolutely not. It took a long time to get to this

> point with

> and I am not about to step backwards, especially

> since his aide has

> not started yet.

>

> I am upset with because I know he can do it

> and I am not sure

> what is going on. He is a non-verbal global

> apraxic child so he

> cannot tell me what is going on. I know rewards

> and bribes work for

> me at home, but I do not think the teacher is

> using my tricks I have

> told her and outlined for her and so he keeps

> having accidents and

> worse off does not tell them and sits in it until

> they notice.

>

> I am up at 1:30am right now because I am so upset

> and can't sleep

> over it. The worse is I know kids are going to

> make fun of him, if

> they already have not for all these accidents,

> which was the reason

> for her asking to use pull ups.

>

> Has anyone ran into these issues? How have you

> resolved them? What

> would you do in my shoes?

>

> Michele

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

If you feel the school isn't doing all it can, you may want to call your state

Dept of Education Quality Assistance area and file a complaint. Hate to do this

unless necessary but it sounds like the school knew an aide was needed and still

has not given you one or told you when one will be available and if in your

child's IEP then you have a legal right to one.

You are also eligible for compensatory time (for the time the aide was

supposed to be there and wasn't). I don't know if you have a use for this kind

of time (if the aide is to be there all day then there isn't any real additional

benefit to you).

Also, you may be able to find an aide yourself and then go to the school and

say that you have one. It would be pretty hard for them not to hire unless the

aide doesn't pass their background checks (PS which can also take some time to

do-CORI background checks are used in our area).

kristen iannone <KIANNONE@...> wrote:

Hi Michele,

First off...how are they getting away with not having his aide yet...That is

completely unacceptable..it is in your iep..then he needs one now...no more time

should go by without this....this is the perfect example of why he needs this

aide....i am sure the teacher is busy and not putting enough focus on 's

needs...get in there and get this aide...asap

[ ] Potty issues at school

My son just started kindergarten this month in a new school district

and was approved for an aide to help with potty issues as well to

help use his augmentative communication device. Well I found

out on Monday that this aide has not started yet (4 weeks into

school). I was told she was starting the Friday of the first week

of school. So in the meantime the special ed teacher has been

taking him. The first week and a hald he did fine, urintated for

them, no accidents. Well the last 2 weeks he will not go for her

and has accidents everyday 2-3 times a day. The teacher tells me she

brings him every 15-20 minutes to avoid accidents, but it does not

seem to be helping.

At home tells me when he has to use the bathroom and goes and

does not have accidents. Last year at his old school he did not

tell them, but they trip trained him and he rarely had accidents.

So I know it is not a sensory issue where he does not feel the need

to go.

Anyways today I get a note home asking if he could wear pull ups

because he is missing so much school being brought to the potty and

getting cleaned up from accidents. I am livid. I have replied

absolutely not. It took a long time to get to this point with

and I am not about to step backwards, especially since his aide has

not started yet.

I am upset with because I know he can do it and I am not sure

what is going on. He is a non-verbal global apraxic child so he

cannot tell me what is going on. I know rewards and bribes work for

me at home, but I do not think the teacher is using my tricks I have

told her and outlined for her and so he keeps having accidents and

worse off does not tell them and sits in it until they notice.

I am up at 1:30am right now because I am so upset and can't sleep

over it. The worse is I know kids are going to make fun of him, if

they already have not for all these accidents, which was the reason

for her asking to use pull ups.

Has anyone ran into these issues? How have you resolved them? What

would you do in my shoes?

Michele

[Guest guest]

If you feel the school isn't doing all it can, you may want to call your state

Dept of Education Quality Assistance area and file a complaint. Hate to do this

unless necessary but it sounds like the school knew an aide was needed and still

has not given you one or told you when one will be available and if in your

child's IEP then you have a legal right to one.

You are also eligible for compensatory time (for the time the aide was

supposed to be there and wasn't). I don't know if you have a use for this kind

of time (if the aide is to be there all day then there isn't any real additional

benefit to you).

Also, you may be able to find an aide yourself and then go to the school and

say that you have one. It would be pretty hard for them not to hire unless the

aide doesn't pass their background checks (PS which can also take some time to

do-CORI background checks are used in our area).

kristen iannone <KIANNONE@...> wrote:

Hi Michele,

First off...how are they getting away with not having his aide yet...That is

completely unacceptable..it is in your iep..then he needs one now...no more time

should go by without this....this is the perfect example of why he needs this

aide....i am sure the teacher is busy and not putting enough focus on 's

needs...get in there and get this aide...asap

[ ] Potty issues at school

My son just started kindergarten this month in a new school district

and was approved for an aide to help with potty issues as well to

help use his augmentative communication device. Well I found

out on Monday that this aide has not started yet (4 weeks into

school). I was told she was starting the Friday of the first week

of school. So in the meantime the special ed teacher has been

taking him. The first week and a hald he did fine, urintated for

them, no accidents. Well the last 2 weeks he will not go for her

and has accidents everyday 2-3 times a day. The teacher tells me she

brings him every 15-20 minutes to avoid accidents, but it does not

seem to be helping.

At home tells me when he has to use the bathroom and goes and

does not have accidents. Last year at his old school he did not

tell them, but they trip trained him and he rarely had accidents.

So I know it is not a sensory issue where he does not feel the need

to go.

Anyways today I get a note home asking if he could wear pull ups

because he is missing so much school being brought to the potty and

getting cleaned up from accidents. I am livid. I have replied

absolutely not. It took a long time to get to this point with

and I am not about to step backwards, especially since his aide has

not started yet.

I am upset with because I know he can do it and I am not sure

what is going on. He is a non-verbal global apraxic child so he

cannot tell me what is going on. I know rewards and bribes work for

me at home, but I do not think the teacher is using my tricks I have

told her and outlined for her and so he keeps having accidents and

worse off does not tell them and sits in it until they notice.

I am up at 1:30am right now because I am so upset and can't sleep

over it. The worse is I know kids are going to make fun of him, if

they already have not for all these accidents, which was the reason

for her asking to use pull ups.

Has anyone ran into these issues? How have you resolved them? What

would you do in my shoes?

Michele