Re: ADD/ADHD and EFA's

[Guest guest]

That's a question for your pediatrician. What do they say?

>

> OK, so I've been doing the EFA/EPA with my oldest (15) to help w/

his

> ADHD-subtype inattentive. (what was once known as ADD). He had

been on

> 27mg of concerta until June (end of school) Since then I've been

giving

> him 5 EFA/ 5EPA's, daily. These doses were spread through out the

day.

> I will admit with this schedule, I had forgotten a few doses here

and

> there. My son kept telling me " this isn't working, still have a

hard

> time paying attention, staying focused, can't think of the right

words "

>

> So recently I decided to " double " each dose. So in the AM, instead

of

> taking 1 efa, and 1 epa, he takes 2 of each. Then in the

afternoon,

> 4more, and at night, another 4 (again, 2 of each) I'm wondering if

that

> is to much? We just started this yesterday, so really to soon to

see

> any results (pos/or neg) just yet.

>

> Thanks for any and all input..

> Dawn in NJ

>

[Guest guest]

My 3 year old is taking a total of 9 pills a day. Your 15 year old is taking

12. It should really be fine regarding safety. It may give him some loose

stools though. My 5 year old (ADHD) did very well on just 2 EFA + 1 EPA in

the AM regarding impulsivity and behavior. Dramatic improvement in behavior

after 2 weeks...but it did take 2 weeks to notice a change. (Prior to this I

was considering discussing evaluation and possible need for ritalin with his

pediatrician). Then just a few months ago, we doubled this dose " just to

see " . I was totally happy with his response/behavior at the lower dose and

he no longer fit the picture of ADHD, but because his younger apraxic

brother was making such gains on higher doses, I started giving my 5 year

old this dose twice a day. Not DRAMATIC difference, but we were pleasantly

surprised to find a more easy going, patient kid who interrupted less, and

for the first time in his life was sitting down and working on puzzles,

fighting less with his siblings etc. I had thought he just didn't like

puzzles, but then realized that he just didn't have the focus to sit down

and concentrate.

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[ ] ADD/ADHD and EFA's

OK, so I've been doing the EFA/EPA with my oldest (15) to help w/ his

ADHD-subtype inattentive. (what was once known as ADD). He had been on

27mg of concerta until June (end of school) Since then I've been giving

him 5 EFA/ 5EPA's, daily. These doses were spread through out the day.

I will admit with this schedule, I had forgotten a few doses here and

there. My son kept telling me " this isn't working, still have a hard

time paying attention, staying focused, can't think of the right words "

So recently I decided to " double " each dose. So in the AM, instead of

taking 1 efa, and 1 epa, he takes 2 of each. Then in the afternoon,

4more, and at night, another 4 (again, 2 of each) I'm wondering if that

is to much? We just started this yesterday, so really to soon to see

any results (pos/or neg) just yet.

Thanks for any and all input..

Dawn in NJ

[Guest guest]

Dawn I give Dakota the same dosage of 5 ProEFA/5 ProEPA a day (he's

11 soon to be 12 so just a few years younger) but...I give them all

together in the AM with breakfast. During the school year he gets 1

ProEFA/1 ProEPA extra at lunch, so 6 ProEFA/6 ProEPA a day. He goes to

the school nurse to get them -and that was as I posted a year ago

per the suggestion of the school child psychiatrist since he was

reported by his teachers to be more focused in his AM classes then

his PM classes. This child psychiatrist is a huge believer in fish

oils for children -and her husband is a leading cardioMD in my area

(Dr. Gage -also Glenn's doc since he had his heart attack) and he

too is a huge believer in the fish oils.

Dr. Gage's page http://www.stuartcardiology.com/page4.html

I'm not sure if we see the results because we give them all together

instead of spread out through the day -but try it Dakota's way for a

few days and let me know! Don't know about the higher dosage -

doubling it and all. That's a good question for someone like Dr.

or someone who has researched PUFAs and ADHD if 20

capsules a day is too high -could be. The average doc won't be able

to answer something that out of the box -but off the top I'd say you

don't have to go that high to see the changes. And your son should

be able to let you know if just giving them all together makes a

difference. (or just increase by 1/1 to 6/6 and observe?)

And a incredible update from Dr. Gage for Glenn...if he didn't know

Glenn had a heart attack he would never know. Glenn's been through

a zillion tests and there appears to be no sign of damage. He's off

just about all medications (still cholesterol medication and

aspirin...and fish oil of course) I'm so sure that fish oil made a

huge difference in what could have been the most horrible situation

of our life. Love that oil -glad I make my whole family take it!

=====

[Guest guest]

,, and " marina " -not sure if this is your first name.

Thanks for all your input regarding my son, and the EFA's.

At this time, I think I'm going to just take it one day at a time.

And see what happens by the end of the week.

His attitude is, and has always been an " easy going kid " He wasn't

dx'd ADD till 7th grade, because honestly, his distractibility and

lack of focus went unnoticed for so long. Mostly his teachers thought

him to be " lazy " And honestly, at time so did I. UNTIL, I started

researching Apraxia, which lead to learning disorders, and ADD. Which

is about the same time Abby was dx'd. It all came together at the

same time. You can't imagine the guilt I felt for letting this go on

for so long.

Enough of that.. the past 2 days on this schedule has gone smoothly.

I'm going to see how this week goes, watching for any changes. If

need be, I can alter the times, dosing, etc.

As far as talking to his pediatrician. I haven't. Because they don't

really have knowledge on the issue. And his neurologist already tried

to discount the positive effects this past spring when I brought it

up to him at our last appt. (he was quick to write that script for

concerta though) And I will admit, it DOES work.

My physician does not want on concerta, due to the possible

side effects, being a neuro-stimulant. And he also doesn't

have " wordly " knowledge on the EFA's, and the positive neuro effects.

Will have to consult with him again on this topic.

Dawn in NJ.

>

> Dawn I give Dakota the same dosage of 5 ProEFA/5 ProEPA a day (he's

> 11 soon to be 12 so just a few years younger) but...I give them all

> together in the AM with breakfast. During the school year he gets 1

> ProEFA/1 ProEPA extra at lunch, so 6 ProEFA/6 ProEPA a day. He goes

to

> the school nurse to get them -and that was as I posted a year ago

> per the suggestion of the school child psychiatrist since he was

> reported by his teachers to be more focused in his AM classes then

> his PM classes. This child psychiatrist is a huge believer in fish

> oils for children -and her husband is a leading cardioMD in my area

> (Dr. Gage -also Glenn's doc since he had his heart attack) and he

> too is a huge believer in the fish oils.

> Dr. Gage's page http://www.stuartcardiology.com/page4.html

>

> I'm not sure if we see the results because we give them all together

> instead of spread out through the day -but try it Dakota's way for a

> few days and let me know! Don't know about the higher dosage -

> doubling it and all. That's a good question for someone like Dr.

> or someone who has researched PUFAs and ADHD if 20

> capsules a day is too high -could be. The average doc won't be able

> to answer something that out of the box -but off the top I'd say you

> don't have to go that high to see the changes. And your son should

> be able to let you know if just giving them all together makes a

> difference. (or just increase by 1/1 to 6/6 and observe?)

>

> And a incredible update from Dr. Gage for Glenn...if he didn't know

> Glenn had a heart attack he would never know. Glenn's been through

> a zillion tests and there appears to be no sign of damage. He's off

> just about all medications (still cholesterol medication and

> aspirin...and fish oil of course) I'm so sure that fish oil made a

> huge difference in what could have been the most horrible situation

> of our life. Love that oil -glad I make my whole family take it!

>

> =====

>

[Guest guest]

That's a question for your pediatrician. What do they say?

>

> OK, so I've been doing the EFA/EPA with my oldest (15) to help w/

his

> ADHD-subtype inattentive. (what was once known as ADD). He had

been on

> 27mg of concerta until June (end of school) Since then I've been

giving

> him 5 EFA/ 5EPA's, daily. These doses were spread through out the

day.

> I will admit with this schedule, I had forgotten a few doses here

and

> there. My son kept telling me " this isn't working, still have a

hard

> time paying attention, staying focused, can't think of the right

words "

>

> So recently I decided to " double " each dose. So in the AM, instead

of

> taking 1 efa, and 1 epa, he takes 2 of each. Then in the

afternoon,

> 4more, and at night, another 4 (again, 2 of each) I'm wondering if

that

> is to much? We just started this yesterday, so really to soon to

see

> any results (pos/or neg) just yet.

>

> Thanks for any and all input..

> Dawn in NJ

>

[Guest guest]

My 3 year old is taking a total of 9 pills a day. Your 15 year old is taking

12. It should really be fine regarding safety. It may give him some loose

stools though. My 5 year old (ADHD) did very well on just 2 EFA + 1 EPA in

the AM regarding impulsivity and behavior. Dramatic improvement in behavior

after 2 weeks...but it did take 2 weeks to notice a change. (Prior to this I

was considering discussing evaluation and possible need for ritalin with his

pediatrician). Then just a few months ago, we doubled this dose " just to

see " . I was totally happy with his response/behavior at the lower dose and

he no longer fit the picture of ADHD, but because his younger apraxic

brother was making such gains on higher doses, I started giving my 5 year

old this dose twice a day. Not DRAMATIC difference, but we were pleasantly

surprised to find a more easy going, patient kid who interrupted less, and

for the first time in his life was sitting down and working on puzzles,

fighting less with his siblings etc. I had thought he just didn't like

puzzles, but then realized that he just didn't have the focus to sit down

and concentrate.

-

[ ] ADD/ADHD and EFA's

OK, so I've been doing the EFA/EPA with my oldest (15) to help w/ his

ADHD-subtype inattentive. (what was once known as ADD). He had been on

27mg of concerta until June (end of school) Since then I've been giving

him 5 EFA/ 5EPA's, daily. These doses were spread through out the day.

I will admit with this schedule, I had forgotten a few doses here and

there. My son kept telling me " this isn't working, still have a hard

time paying attention, staying focused, can't think of the right words "

So recently I decided to " double " each dose. So in the AM, instead of

taking 1 efa, and 1 epa, he takes 2 of each. Then in the afternoon,

4more, and at night, another 4 (again, 2 of each) I'm wondering if that

is to much? We just started this yesterday, so really to soon to see

any results (pos/or neg) just yet.

Thanks for any and all input..

Dawn in NJ

[Guest guest]

Dawn I give Dakota the same dosage of 5 ProEFA/5 ProEPA a day (he's

11 soon to be 12 so just a few years younger) but...I give them all

together in the AM with breakfast. During the school year he gets 1

ProEFA/1 ProEPA extra at lunch, so 6 ProEFA/6 ProEPA a day. He goes to

the school nurse to get them -and that was as I posted a year ago

per the suggestion of the school child psychiatrist since he was

reported by his teachers to be more focused in his AM classes then

his PM classes. This child psychiatrist is a huge believer in fish

oils for children -and her husband is a leading cardioMD in my area

(Dr. Gage -also Glenn's doc since he had his heart attack) and he

too is a huge believer in the fish oils.

Dr. Gage's page http://www.stuartcardiology.com/page4.html

I'm not sure if we see the results because we give them all together

instead of spread out through the day -but try it Dakota's way for a

few days and let me know! Don't know about the higher dosage -

doubling it and all. That's a good question for someone like Dr.

or someone who has researched PUFAs and ADHD if 20

capsules a day is too high -could be. The average doc won't be able

to answer something that out of the box -but off the top I'd say you

don't have to go that high to see the changes. And your son should

be able to let you know if just giving them all together makes a

difference. (or just increase by 1/1 to 6/6 and observe?)

And a incredible update from Dr. Gage for Glenn...if he didn't know

Glenn had a heart attack he would never know. Glenn's been through

a zillion tests and there appears to be no sign of damage. He's off

just about all medications (still cholesterol medication and

aspirin...and fish oil of course) I'm so sure that fish oil made a

huge difference in what could have been the most horrible situation

of our life. Love that oil -glad I make my whole family take it!

=====

[Guest guest]

,, and " marina " -not sure if this is your first name.

Thanks for all your input regarding my son, and the EFA's.

At this time, I think I'm going to just take it one day at a time.

And see what happens by the end of the week.

His attitude is, and has always been an " easy going kid " He wasn't

dx'd ADD till 7th grade, because honestly, his distractibility and

lack of focus went unnoticed for so long. Mostly his teachers thought

him to be " lazy " And honestly, at time so did I. UNTIL, I started

researching Apraxia, which lead to learning disorders, and ADD. Which

is about the same time Abby was dx'd. It all came together at the

same time. You can't imagine the guilt I felt for letting this go on

for so long.

Enough of that.. the past 2 days on this schedule has gone smoothly.

I'm going to see how this week goes, watching for any changes. If

need be, I can alter the times, dosing, etc.

As far as talking to his pediatrician. I haven't. Because they don't

really have knowledge on the issue. And his neurologist already tried

to discount the positive effects this past spring when I brought it

up to him at our last appt. (he was quick to write that script for

concerta though) And I will admit, it DOES work.

My physician does not want on concerta, due to the possible

side effects, being a neuro-stimulant. And he also doesn't

have " wordly " knowledge on the EFA's, and the positive neuro effects.

Will have to consult with him again on this topic.

Dawn in NJ.

>

> Dawn I give Dakota the same dosage of 5 ProEFA/5 ProEPA a day (he's

> 11 soon to be 12 so just a few years younger) but...I give them all

> together in the AM with breakfast. During the school year he gets 1

> ProEFA/1 ProEPA extra at lunch, so 6 ProEFA/6 ProEPA a day. He goes

to

> the school nurse to get them -and that was as I posted a year ago

> per the suggestion of the school child psychiatrist since he was

> reported by his teachers to be more focused in his AM classes then

> his PM classes. This child psychiatrist is a huge believer in fish

> oils for children -and her husband is a leading cardioMD in my area

> (Dr. Gage -also Glenn's doc since he had his heart attack) and he

> too is a huge believer in the fish oils.

> Dr. Gage's page http://www.stuartcardiology.com/page4.html

>

> I'm not sure if we see the results because we give them all together

> instead of spread out through the day -but try it Dakota's way for a

> few days and let me know! Don't know about the higher dosage -

> doubling it and all. That's a good question for someone like Dr.

> or someone who has researched PUFAs and ADHD if 20

> capsules a day is too high -could be. The average doc won't be able

> to answer something that out of the box -but off the top I'd say you

> don't have to go that high to see the changes. And your son should

> be able to let you know if just giving them all together makes a

> difference. (or just increase by 1/1 to 6/6 and observe?)

>

> And a incredible update from Dr. Gage for Glenn...if he didn't know

> Glenn had a heart attack he would never know. Glenn's been through

> a zillion tests and there appears to be no sign of damage. He's off

> just about all medications (still cholesterol medication and

> aspirin...and fish oil of course) I'm so sure that fish oil made a

> huge difference in what could have been the most horrible situation

> of our life. Love that oil -glad I make my whole family take it!

>

> =====

>

[Guest guest]

I noticed Dr. has a book titled, They are what they

Eat. I would like to purchase this book. I have been able to read a

few pages on the web, and from what I've read, it seems like an

interesting book. I would really like to e-mail her and ask some

questions. But hoping reading the book may answer them.

Dawn in NJ.

>

> Dawn I give Dakota the same dosage of 5 ProEFA/5 ProEPA a day (he's

> 11 soon to be 12 so just a few years younger) but...I give them all

> together in the AM with breakfast. During the school year he gets 1

> ProEFA/1 ProEPA extra at lunch, so 6 ProEFA/6 ProEPA a day. He goes

to

> the school nurse to get them -and that was as I posted a year ago

> per the suggestion of the school child psychiatrist since he was

> reported by his teachers to be more focused in his AM classes then

> his PM classes. This child psychiatrist is a huge believer in fish

> oils for children -and her husband is a leading cardioMD in my area

> (Dr. Gage -also Glenn's doc since he had his heart attack) and he

> too is a huge believer in the fish oils.

> Dr. Gage's page http://www.stuartcardiology.com/page4.html

>

> I'm not sure if we see the results because we give them all together

> instead of spread out through the day -but try it Dakota's way for a

> few days and let me know! Don't know about the higher dosage -

> doubling it and all. That's a good question for someone like Dr.

> or someone who has researched PUFAs and ADHD if 20

> capsules a day is too high -could be. The average doc won't be able

> to answer something that out of the box -but off the top I'd say you

> don't have to go that high to see the changes. And your son should

> be able to let you know if just giving them all together makes a

> difference. (or just increase by 1/1 to 6/6 and observe?)

>

> And a incredible update from Dr. Gage for Glenn...if he didn't know

> Glenn had a heart attack he would never know. Glenn's been through

> a zillion tests and there appears to be no sign of damage. He's off

> just about all medications (still cholesterol medication and

> aspirin...and fish oil of course) I'm so sure that fish oil made a

> huge difference in what could have been the most horrible situation

> of our life. Love that oil -glad I make my whole family take it!

>

> =====

>

[Guest guest]

I find this real encouraging! My 10-year-old is ADHD (not apraxic), and I am

too. The whole family takes EFAs, my husband being the only one who does not

take the ProEFAs. I notice several of you are talking about doubling the doses,

etc. Which mg are you taking? My 10-yr-old and I are on the ProEFA Jr. Have

you heard that you have to watch the quantity you take because of thinning the

blood too much? That is what we have been told. My son is on Focalin, but he

takes the EFAs at noontime, to give him a boost. He is taking the 500mg

chewable gel. I wonder if I could skip the Focalin and give him the EFA in the

morning as well. My 2-yr-old, with a genetic syndrome and dyspraxia, also takes

it, but he seems to have pretty good control most of the time.

Have you heard about the blood thinning issue?

Kim

" The Lord bless you and keep you. "

[Guest guest]

I noticed Dr. has a book titled, They are what they

Eat. I would like to purchase this book. I have been able to read a

few pages on the web, and from what I've read, it seems like an

interesting book. I would really like to e-mail her and ask some

questions. But hoping reading the book may answer them.

Dawn in NJ.

>

> Dawn I give Dakota the same dosage of 5 ProEFA/5 ProEPA a day (he's

> 11 soon to be 12 so just a few years younger) but...I give them all

> together in the AM with breakfast. During the school year he gets 1

> ProEFA/1 ProEPA extra at lunch, so 6 ProEFA/6 ProEPA a day. He goes

to

> the school nurse to get them -and that was as I posted a year ago

> per the suggestion of the school child psychiatrist since he was

> reported by his teachers to be more focused in his AM classes then

> his PM classes. This child psychiatrist is a huge believer in fish

> oils for children -and her husband is a leading cardioMD in my area

> (Dr. Gage -also Glenn's doc since he had his heart attack) and he

> too is a huge believer in the fish oils.

> Dr. Gage's page http://www.stuartcardiology.com/page4.html

>

> I'm not sure if we see the results because we give them all together

> instead of spread out through the day -but try it Dakota's way for a

> few days and let me know! Don't know about the higher dosage -

> doubling it and all. That's a good question for someone like Dr.

> or someone who has researched PUFAs and ADHD if 20

> capsules a day is too high -could be. The average doc won't be able

> to answer something that out of the box -but off the top I'd say you

> don't have to go that high to see the changes. And your son should

> be able to let you know if just giving them all together makes a

> difference. (or just increase by 1/1 to 6/6 and observe?)

>

> And a incredible update from Dr. Gage for Glenn...if he didn't know

> Glenn had a heart attack he would never know. Glenn's been through

> a zillion tests and there appears to be no sign of damage. He's off

> just about all medications (still cholesterol medication and

> aspirin...and fish oil of course) I'm so sure that fish oil made a

> huge difference in what could have been the most horrible situation

> of our life. Love that oil -glad I make my whole family take it!

>

> =====

>

[Guest guest]

I find this real encouraging! My 10-year-old is ADHD (not apraxic), and I am

too. The whole family takes EFAs, my husband being the only one who does not

take the ProEFAs. I notice several of you are talking about doubling the doses,

etc. Which mg are you taking? My 10-yr-old and I are on the ProEFA Jr. Have

you heard that you have to watch the quantity you take because of thinning the

blood too much? That is what we have been told. My son is on Focalin, but he

takes the EFAs at noontime, to give him a boost. He is taking the 500mg

chewable gel. I wonder if I could skip the Focalin and give him the EFA in the

morning as well. My 2-yr-old, with a genetic syndrome and dyspraxia, also takes

it, but he seems to have pretty good control most of the time.

Have you heard about the blood thinning issue?

Kim

" The Lord bless you and keep you. "