Guest guest Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 http://slate.msn.com/id/2123269/entry/2123270/ This article ran all week, and covered the technology of creating organs. They give all of the stem-cell related science, and how it has been applied in non-human cases. Makes a real case that kidney tissue possible of transplantation could be created from your own skin cells via the use of an embryonic host cell. Think -- if you are your own donor, then there is no need to take anti-rejection drugs... Walt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2005 Report Share Posted July 30, 2005 Hi Walt, Thanks for posting this. In addition to organ regeneration, there's other important benefits. One of the " low hanging fruit " in terms of disease treatment from stem cells has long been thought to be diabetes. JDRF (Juvenile Diabetes Research Fund) felt so strongly about this they were the first million dollar contributor to Prop 71 (the California stem cell initiative that puts three billion into stem cell research). Even if JUST diabetes is cured, the pool of available kidneys for the rest of us is enormously increased. Rising water raises all boats. Cy Interesting articles on Stem Cells in Slate Magazine > http://slate.msn.com/id/2123269/entry/2123270/ > > This article ran all week, and covered the technology of creating organs. > They give all of the stem-cell related science, and how it has been > applied > in non-human cases. Makes a real case that kidney tissue possible of > transplantation could be created from your own skin cells via the use of > an > embryonic host cell. Think -- if you are your own donor, then there is no > need to take anti-rejection drugs... > > Walt > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2005 Report Share Posted July 30, 2005 Interesting thought, Cy. I had read that the technology of treating diabetes potentially is simpler than having to generate a replacement organ - apparently something like injecting " islet cells " which will allow the pancreas to produce insulin. At any rate, I hadn't thought about the impact on the kidney transplant waiting lists, which would be terrific. Betsy > Hi Walt, > > Thanks for posting this. In addition to organ regeneration, there's > other > important benefits. One of the " low hanging fruit " in terms of > disease > treatment from stem cells has long been thought to be diabetes. JDRF > (Juvenile Diabetes Research Fund) felt so strongly about this they > were the > first million dollar contributor to Prop 71 (the California stem cell > initiative that puts three billion into stem cell research). Even > if JUST > diabetes is cured, the pool of available kidneys for the rest of us is > enormously increased. Rising water raises all boats. > > Cy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2005 Report Share Posted July 30, 2005 Cy & Walt.... One of the interesting complexities surrounding using de-differentiated or undifferentiated cells (i.e. stem cells) to " build, " a kidney is the morphology or structure of that organ. In other words, the function of the kidney, unlike most hard organs, is heavily dependant on the physical arrangement of various cell types in space (Bowmans capsule, etc.). Generating a functional liver " block " that could be transplanted (or islet cells for that matter) does not bear this morphological constraint. However, before one frowns.....and believe this or not....several researchers are working on exactly the problem I outline....by using sprayers from inkjet printers; different cell types (i.e. vascular, liver, etc.) along with a " glue, " to physically build, in three dimensions, the requisite morphology. To mimic a kidney in this fashion will require much more granular resolution than 600 dpi or so (around 2500 dpi as a typical cell size is 100 microns) but I imagine, given time, money, and energy, these folks will get there. Interestingly, too, the glue they have designed actually facilitates the cellular amalgamation seen in native as opposed to chimeric tissue. What we need now of course is vigorous support of stem cell research at every level, and I applaud Arnold for taking up this cause despite his Republican focus. With any luck (and the right constitutional amendment) he may challenge the Big Girl in 2008. Needless to say, this is an exciting time for bioresearch, and when I read the above mentioned article a few months back I was amazed at our collective ingenuity as a species. In any case, hard drive problems are solved and I am glad to be back! Cheers, Bart Re: Interesting articles on Stem Cells in Slate Magazine Hi Walt, Thanks for posting this. In addition to organ regeneration, there's other important benefits. One of the " low hanging fruit " in terms of disease treatment from stem cells has long been thought to be diabetes. JDRF (Juvenile Diabetes Research Fund) felt so strongly about this they were the first million dollar contributor to Prop 71 (the California stem cell initiative that puts three billion into stem cell research). Even if JUST diabetes is cured, the pool of available kidneys for the rest of us is enormously increased. Rising water raises all boats. Cy Interesting articles on Stem Cells in Slate Magazine > http://slate.msn.com/id/2123269/entry/2123270/ > > This article ran all week, and covered the technology of creating organs. > They give all of the stem-cell related science, and how it has been > applied > in non-human cases. Makes a real case that kidney tissue possible of > transplantation could be created from your own skin cells via the use of > an > embryonic host cell. Think -- if you are your own donor, then there is no > need to take anti-rejection drugs... > > Walt > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2005 Report Share Posted July 30, 2005 Bart: I'm familiar with some of this research, as I follow the research in Langer's lab at MIT (he is my best friend's brother-in-law). He's been doing this structural work for some time, and has stated the same thing as you -- that resolutions will have to get very good to create a kidney. What was interesting about the Slate article is that in days 3, 4, and 5, they go into the potential for growing kidneys from embryonic stem cells in-vivo/in-vitro, which however would require allowing work on embryonic cells beyond day 14, which is currently not allowed. According to the article, if allowed to develop to 5 to 7 weeks, you get cell differentiation, and then cells that can be moved to in-vitro which will continue to develop properly. I fear that we are a long way from allowing this kind of work -- at least in this country. However, be assured that the Asians will not be held up by these ethical issues. Walt _____ From: iga-nephropathy [mailto:iga-nephropathy ] On Behalf Of Bart Hawkins Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 12:27 PM To: iga-nephropathy Subject: RE: Interesting articles on Stem Cells in Slate Magazine Cy & Walt.... One of the interesting complexities surrounding using de-differentiated or undifferentiated cells (i.e. stem cells) to " build, " a kidney is the morphology or structure of that organ. In other words, the function of the kidney, unlike most hard organs, is heavily dependant on the physical arrangement of various cell types in space (Bowmans capsule, etc.). Generating a functional liver " block " that could be transplanted (or islet cells for that matter) does not bear this morphological constraint. However, before one frowns.....and believe this or not....several researchers are working on exactly the problem I outline....by using sprayers from inkjet printers; different cell types (i.e. vascular, liver, etc.) along with a " glue, " to physically build, in three dimensions, the requisite morphology. To mimic a kidney in this fashion will require much more granular resolution than 600 dpi or so (around 2500 dpi as a typical cell size is 100 microns) but I imagine, given time, money, and energy, these folks will get there. Interestingly, too, the glue they have designed actually facilitates the cellular amalgamation seen in native as opposed to chimeric tissue. What we need now of course is vigorous support of stem cell research at every level, and I applaud Arnold for taking up this cause despite his Republican focus. With any luck (and the right constitutional amendment) he may challenge the Big Girl in 2008. Needless to say, this is an exciting time for bioresearch, and when I read the above mentioned article a few months back I was amazed at our collective ingenuity as a species. In any case, hard drive problems are solved and I am glad to be back! Cheers, Bart Re: Interesting articles on Stem Cells in Slate Magazine Hi Walt, Thanks for posting this. In addition to organ regeneration, there's other important benefits. One of the " low hanging fruit " in terms of disease treatment from stem cells has long been thought to be diabetes. JDRF (Juvenile Diabetes Research Fund) felt so strongly about this they were the first million dollar contributor to Prop 71 (the California stem cell initiative that puts three billion into stem cell research). Even if JUST diabetes is cured, the pool of available kidneys for the rest of us is enormously increased. Rising water raises all boats. Cy Interesting articles on Stem Cells in Slate Magazine > http://slate.msn.com/id/2123269/entry/2123270/ > > This article ran all week, and covered the technology of creating organs. > They give all of the stem-cell related science, and how it has been > applied > in non-human cases. Makes a real case that kidney tissue possible of > transplantation could be created from your own skin cells via the use of > an > embryonic host cell. Think -- if you are your own donor, then there is no > need to take anti-rejection drugs... > > Walt > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2005 Report Share Posted July 30, 2005 Re: Interesting articles on Stem Cells in Slate Magazine > Interesting thought, Cy. I had read that the technology of treating > diabetes potentially is simpler than having to generate a replacement > organ - apparently something like injecting " islet cells " which will > allow the pancreas to produce insulin. At any rate, I hadn't thought > about the impact on the kidney transplant waiting lists, which would > be terrific. > > Betsy > > > >> Hi Walt, >> >> Thanks for posting this. In addition to organ regeneration, there's >> other >> important benefits. One of the " low hanging fruit " in terms of >> disease >> treatment from stem cells has long been thought to be diabetes. JDRF >> (Juvenile Diabetes Research Fund) felt so strongly about this they >> were the >> first million dollar contributor to Prop 71 (the California stem cell >> initiative that puts three billion into stem cell research). Even >> if JUST >> diabetes is cured, the pool of available kidneys for the rest of us is >> enormously increased. Rising water raises all boats. >> >> Cy >> > > > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group > home page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ > > To unsubcribe via email, > iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe > Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported > by donations. If you would like to help, go to: > http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm > > Thank you > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2005 Report Share Posted July 30, 2005 The islet cell transplant (the reference is to the islets of langerhans) has been shown to work. This is called the Edmonton protocol. However, islet cells aren't exactly readily available - and the transplant recipient has the associated hassle of immunosuppressants (sound familiar?), hence all the stem cell work in this area. Cy Re: Interesting articles on Stem Cells in Slate Magazine > Interesting thought, Cy. I had read that the technology of treating > diabetes potentially is simpler than having to generate a replacement > organ - apparently something like injecting " islet cells " which will > allow the pancreas to produce insulin. At any rate, I hadn't thought > about the impact on the kidney transplant waiting lists, which would > be terrific. > > Betsy > > > >> Hi Walt, >> >> Thanks for posting this. In addition to organ regeneration, there's >> other >> important benefits. One of the " low hanging fruit " in terms of >> disease >> treatment from stem cells has long been thought to be diabetes. JDRF >> (Juvenile Diabetes Research Fund) felt so strongly about this they >> were the >> first million dollar contributor to Prop 71 (the California stem cell >> initiative that puts three billion into stem cell research). Even >> if JUST >> diabetes is cured, the pool of available kidneys for the rest of us is >> enormously increased. Rising water raises all boats. >> >> Cy >> > > > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group > home page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ > > To unsubcribe via email, > iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe > Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported > by donations. If you would like to help, go to: > http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm > > Thank you > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Hi Bart, I am glad your hard drive problems are behind you and you are back among the connected :-) In a message dated 7/30/2005 9:27:54 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bkhphd@... writes: Needless to say, this is an exciting time for bioresearch, and when I read the above mentioned article a few months back I was amazed at our collective ingenuity as a species. In any case, hard drive problems are solved and I am glad to be back! Cheers, Bart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2005 Report Share Posted July 31, 2005 Hi Walt, Wouldn't that just be so wonderful! I doubt that will come in time for me, but it would be great for those who reach ESRD in the future. As a Molecular Biology major in college, I think all this research is amazing, especially if we could harvest stem cells from ourselves! In a message dated 7/29/2005 8:43:38 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, wcrosby@... writes: http://slate.msn.com/id/2123269/entry/2123270/ This article ran all week, and covered the technology of creating organs. They give all of the stem-cell related science, and how it has been applied in non-human cases. Makes a real case that kidney tissue possible of transplantation could be created from your own skin cells via the use of an embryonic host cell. Think -- if you are your own donor, then there is no need to take anti-rejection drugs... Walt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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