Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Repost of Topper's on Conversion & Selinium Some of the story of conversion of T4 to T3 It's me.. the wordy one.... I take Selenium as a tablet... I'd like to take brazils... better, more natural source.. but even if I had the bucks to buy them... I can't find the buggers in my area. For conversion to work right.. to allow your body to make enough T3 you have to have everything needed for the chemical process... Enough T4 in your tissues, so that means having a dose large enough to allow your body to store enough. Since we can't measure what is actually stored in the tissues we go by testing what is free and available in our blood.. the Free T4 test... if that level is high enough we stand a decent chance of being able to store enough to be available to convert. You need energy in the blood to make the conversion happen.. that's were the mini-meals that I talk so much about come in... small regular meals that keep the energy levels in the blood consistent so that conversion can take place continually. Skipping meals is the WORST thing we can do for our thyroid recovery... if the energy level drops, conversion stops! Breakfast is HUGELY important.. it not only eases the burden on the adrenals, it gives us the energy to kick off our conversion so that we can function. You need the selenium. Selenium is like a pair of pliers during conversion. The Selenium molecule attaches to on of the four iodine molecules that are in a T4 molecule.... then the energy in available yanks that selenium molecule back which in turn yanks off an iodine molecule... Not that T4 molecule, that was being stored, has been converted to a T3 molecule that our body can use to do all the marvelous things that it does to keep us alive and happy and well. T4 levels too low... not enough to convert Not enough selenium in the system, can't convert Not enough energy in the system, can't convert. It all works together. If one part is lacking the conversion isn't working on a high enough level to give is the active hormone, T3 to be well..... That same conversion process converts some of that T3 that was made into T2... that's used for metabolism..... and some of the T2 that was made is converted into T1... that's used for our brains. For those of us that have 'broken converters' adding T3 allows the conversion that we do have to work on the other hormones, T2 and T1... and just top off what we need for T3.... 200 to 400 mcg of Selenium per day is a good range... I take 400 mcg most of the time... taking amounts of 600 mcg and over, for more than 2 weeks, can build to toxic levels and can be fatal... So you want to take enough to help your body, but not so much as to harm. Selenium used to be common in the foods we eat. But the way that the big commercial farms work now, using chemical fertilizers, the soil is pretty much stripped of selenium.. Some folks say that the increase in folks with thyroid problems might be linked to our diets being so poor in natural selenium... Something to consider. Two things to keep in mind when taking Selenium. First, if you take anything containing vitamin C at the same time you take the selenium you MUST take it with food. Selenium and vitamin C will bind together and become unusable if you don't. If you eat at the same time the selenium is able to 'hide' in the chemistry of the digesting food and doesn't get stuck to the vitamin C and you get the benefit of both. The other thing is the source of selenium when buying tablets... there is a whole chemistry name thing involved.. one form of selenium isn't as easily used by the body.. so think of it as less efficient.. the other is used much better.... think of it as more of it for the money you spent and the effort you took to take it.... The easiest way, for me, to remember the good from the bad... the good is grown using yeast... So if the ingredient label says that it includes yeast.. it's the good stuff. How and when I choose to take the selenium is the same as I take all my supps: anything in a capsule that can't be split and doesn't bind with thyroid hormone is taken in the morning All tablets and caplets that can be split get split into four doses, except for multi-vitamins, I split those into 8ths Anything that binds with thyroid hormone or otherwise affects it (calcium, iron, etc) is taken at night. All supps are taken with a meal. So my selenium is taken a quarter tab at a time, four times a day... I have this theory that spreading stuff out gives us better absorption... not everybody thinks that way... so it's okay to do it in one dose, I just say how I happen to do it.... Topper () Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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