Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 I had my second appt with my endro today here are my results Thyroglobulin Ab 92.0 range 0.0-25.0 Thyroid Peroxidase Ab >1300 range 0.60 T3 101 range 80-200 Cortisal,random 11.5 T4 free 1.59 range0.89-1.76 T4 11.4 range 4.7-11.4 TSH Ultra sensitive L 0.056 range 0.350-5.350 FSH 4.6 Testosterone 18 Estradiol 98 My previous doctor told me I was going through meno when I was firts diagnosed with Hashi but this doctor says Im not. He told me that to lower my thyroxine from 150 to 125 and have my bloodwork redone in 6wks. I told him that my periods are every 2 - 3mths. He said that my ovaried have temporaly stopped working and he thinks its due to stress as the past year I lost my brother(suddenly from heat attack) then my mother (lung and bone cancer)whilst trying to sell my house in land to move to Ky to be with my husband (whom had had a job transfer). So I guess it may be due to stress........what do you guys think after reading over my bloodwork? My sex drive is dead so the doctor said to buy some DHEA and self treat myself with that and let him know how I feel when I go back in 6wks....OR wait until we complete another batch of tests. Im always tired so I was suprised to find I was hyper!! If anyone has any advice I would Love to hear from you. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 TSH L 0.056 range 0.350-5.350 T4 free 1.59 range0.89-1.76 T4 11.4 range 4.7-11.4 T3 101 range 80-200 You are feeling tired and worn out, not because of stress, although it could be a part, (((((hugs)))))) sorry to hear about the year you had..you are feeling rough because you are hypo..and your doctor lowering your meds is going to make you more hypo.. A quick thyroid 101.. TSH is Thyroid Stimulating Hormone..it is not a thyroid hormone but a pituary gland hormone..it is used to regulate how much thyroid hormone your body thinks it needs or does not need.. ( JMO but totally useless once you have a diagnosis) The thyroid produces two main hormones, T4 and T3..T4 is considered the storage hormone and the main hormone the thyroid produces.. Synthroid is a synthetic T4 only replacement medication. T3 is considered the active hormone, the hormone the cells use and that you feel.. the thyroid produces a little T3 but most of the T3 is produced by the body converting T4 to T3.. Not rocket science..just sounds fancy.. T4 is Thyroid hormone with 4 iodine molecules, strip one of and you get T3.Thyroid hormone with 3 iodine molecules. Now this is where hypo vs hyper differs and comes into play on the labs.. certain hormones( female hormones) and other reasons control something called TBG..or Thyroid binding Globin.. 95% of the thyroid hormones are bound to TBG and circulate through your body until called. This test.. T4 11.4 range 4.7-11.4 includes the total T4, so the T4 that is bound, and the T4 that is free..with you being at the top of the range your TSH is low..and why idiot doc things you are hyper. Now a few years ago, they figured out a way to test only the T4 that is free.. that is the T4 that your body is actually able to use. This test..T4 free 1.59 range0.89-1.76.. now Synthroid manufactuers themselves state that when supplementing with Synthroid the aim should be for the upper 1/2 of the range..although most people do post that they prefer the upper 2/3 end of the range..so with your range Synthroid says 1.325-1.76..the upper 2/3 range gives you 1.47-1.76..so your Free T4 of 1.59 is not only in range but is looking pretty good.. Now not to long after they figrued out how to test for the free T4, they also realized the same issues regarding what is bound and usable played a role in T3..and they have a test called Free T3.. Your test..oops doctor did not run it..but he did run a Total T3 test on you..T3 101 range 80-200..now this is the total T3..so it includes both bound and Free T3..remember what I said earlier T3 is the active hormone..the hormone the body uses and feels.. your T3 is hiding in the basement..no wonder you feel like crud.. With such a high Total T4 and such a low Total T3 where is all that hormone going? You need to work on things to help with conversion..Sellenium helps..eating a well balanced diet helps.. Unforunately if it is because of menopause/hormones etc..either waiting it out or taking a supplement to try and lower the TBG helps..if you wanna feel like you have been feeling and wait it out.. or Cytomel which is a synthetic T3 only med would help bring up that T3 and help you feel human again. Unfortuantely you really need to staple the lab sheet with the T3 to the docs forehead so the doc notices it..I can see the error if the doc did not run the test..if the doc only ran TSH and Total T4..then just maybe..although we would all call bad labs with your symptoms and tell you to get Free's done..but the doc ordered the other tests and did not look at them.. Now this is just me..if that was my ENDO..I would ask the doc how come you feel like crud, have a normal Free T4 and how lowering your Synthroid is going to bring the T3 out of the basement.. The ENDO's answer will let yo uknow if this is a doc you can work with or not.. if not take your labs to another doc and ask about the T3. Kats3boys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Hi Janis, No way are you hyper !!! Your FT3 (I presume this is a Free, if not it should be) is way below mid-range - mid range being 1.40 - and most people feel best with an FT3 at the top of the range - if not slightly over ! Your FT4 is just above mid-range - mid-range being 1.33. For most people it should be in the upper third of the range. If your doc said you are hyper, he is just going by the TSH, and knows nothing about the frees. If you reduce your thyroxine you are probably going to feel worse ! DHEA is a wonderful thing, but before taking it you ought to be tested to see if you are lacking it. Too much not good. And it is totally irresponsible of him to suggest you just try it like that ! Can you find a new doctor ????? Lili > >I had my second appt with my endro today here are my results > >Thyroglobulin Ab 92.0 range 0.0-25.0 > >Thyroid Peroxidase Ab >1300 range 0.60 > >T3 101 range 80-200 > >Cortisal,random 11.5 > >T4 free 1.59 range0.89-1.76 > >T4 11.4 range 4.7-11.4 > >TSH Ultra sensitive L 0.056 range 0.350-5.350 > >FSH 4.6 > >Testosterone 18 > >Estradiol 98 > >My previous doctor told me I was going through meno when I was firts >diagnosed with Hashi but this doctor says Im not. He told me that to >lower my thyroxine from 150 to 125 and have my bloodwork redone in >6wks. I told him that my periods are every 2 - 3mths. He said that my >ovaried have temporaly stopped working and he thinks its due to >stress as the past year I lost my brother(suddenly from heat attack) >then my mother (lung and bone cancer)whilst trying to sell my house >in land to move to Ky to be with my husband (whom had had a job >transfer). So I guess it may be due to stress........what do you guys >think after reading over my bloodwork? My sex drive is dead so the >doctor said to buy some DHEA and self treat myself with that and let >him know how I feel when I go back in 6wks....OR wait until we >complete another batch of tests. Im always tired so I was suprised to >find I was hyper!! If anyone has any advice I would Love to hear from >you. Thanks in advance. > > > _________________________________________________________________ Découvrez le Blog heroic Fantaisy d'Eragon! http://eragon-heroic-fantasy.spaces.live.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 I just printed this Thyroid 101 to take with me to My Endo on Monday .. Thanks from a newbie who finds all this confusing...... Vinnie Re: Bloodwork Results from New Endro TSH L 0.056 range 0.350-5.350 T4 free 1.59 range0.89-1.76 T4 11.4 range 4.7-11.4 T3 101 range 80-200 You are feeling tired and worn out, not because of stress, although it could be a part, (((((hugs)))))) sorry to hear about the year you had..you are feeling rough because you are hypo..and your doctor lowering your meds is going to make you more hypo.. A quick thyroid 101.. TSH is Thyroid Stimulating Hormone..it is not a thyroid hormone but a pituary gland hormone..it is used to regulate how much thyroid hormone your body thinks it needs or does not need.. ( JMO but totally useless once you have a diagnosis) The thyroid produces two main hormones, T4 and T3..T4 is considered the storage hormone and the main hormone the thyroid produces.. Synthroid is a synthetic T4 only replacement medication. T3 is considered the active hormone, the hormone the cells use and that you feel.. the thyroid produces a little T3 but most of the T3 is produced by the body converting T4 to T3.. Not rocket science..just sounds fancy.. T4 is Thyroid hormone with 4 iodine molecules, strip one of and you get T3.Thyroid hormone with 3 iodine molecules. Now this is where hypo vs hyper differs and comes into play on the labs.. certain hormones( female hormones) and other reasons control something called TBG..or Thyroid binding Globin.. 95% of the thyroid hormones are bound to TBG and circulate through your body until called. This test.. T4 11.4 range 4.7-11.4 includes the total T4, so the T4 that is bound, and the T4 that is free..with you being at the top of the range your TSH is low..and why idiot doc things you are hyper. Now a few years ago, they figured out a way to test only the T4 that is free.. that is the T4 that your body is actually able to use. This test..T4 free 1.59 range0.89-1.76.. now Synthroid manufactuers themselves state that when supplementing with Synthroid the aim should be for the upper 1/2 of the range..although most people do post that they prefer the upper 2/3 end of the range..so with your range Synthroid says 1.325-1.76..the upper 2/3 range gives you 1.47-1.76..so your Free T4 of 1.59 is not only in range but is looking pretty good.. Now not to long after they figrued out how to test for the free T4, they also realized the same issues regarding what is bound and usable played a role in T3..and they have a test called Free T3.. Your test..oops doctor did not run it..but he did run a Total T3 test on you..T3 101 range 80-200..now this is the total T3..so it includes both bound and Free T3..remember what I said earlier T3 is the active hormone..the hormone the body uses and feels.. your T3 is hiding in the basement..no wonder you feel like crud.. With such a high Total T4 and such a low Total T3 where is all that hormone going? You need to work on things to help with conversion..Sellenium helps..eating a well balanced diet helps.. Unforunately if it is because of menopause/hormones etc..either waiting it out or taking a supplement to try and lower the TBG helps..if you wanna feel like you have been feeling and wait it out.. or Cytomel which is a synthetic T3 only med would help bring up that T3 and help you feel human again. Unfortuantely you really need to staple the lab sheet with the T3 to the docs forehead so the doc notices it..I can see the error if the doc did not run the test..if the doc only ran TSH and Total T4..then just maybe..although we would all call bad labs with your symptoms and tell you to get Free's done..but the doc ordered the other tests and did not look at them.. Now this is just me..if that was my ENDO..I would ask the doc how come you feel like crud, have a normal Free T4 and how lowering your Synthroid is going to bring the T3 out of the basement.. The ENDO's answer will let yo uknow if this is a doc you can work with or not.. if not take your labs to another doc and ask about the T3. Kats3boys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Thank You Thank you for your informative response. Im going on a hunt for another doctor. I have Tricare Prime Insurance so my choices are limited here in lexington KY. I need to find somoene quick because I only have enough thyroxine for 10days plus a script for Synthroid 125mg from that prat of an Endo. I also forgot to mention that my blood pressure is Low plus I randomly feel dizzy and weak. What thats all about I dont know. I have lost 4lbs this past month but that could be connected to Celiac......im so trying to stay on that diet but its hard especially when you dont have many symptoms. Janis Hashi / Celiac Lexington Ky Give spam the boot. Take control with tough spam protectionin the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Hi Lor Thanks for your response to my e-mail. I agree with what you are saying and hope to find another Doctor VERY Soon. Tricare just informed me that the UK Hospital take my insurance so Im off now to make some phone calls. Thanks once again Janis Hashi/Celiac Lexington Ky Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 > > I just printed this Thyroid 101 to take with me to My Endo on Monday .. > Thanks from a newbie who finds all this confusing...... > > Vinnie You may want to delete the idiot word I used to describe your doc a few times..lol..oops. Kats3boys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 It's ok won't read it to him will memorize it!! Re: Bloodwork Results from New Endro > > I just printed this Thyroid 101 to take with me to My Endo on Monday .. > Thanks from a newbie who finds all this confusing...... > > Vinnie You may want to delete the idiot word I used to describe your doc a few times..lol..oops. Kats3boys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 LOL, if you show him the part about the idiot doc and stapling it to his forehead, he MAY get his ego a little fluffed up, hehe, but it is absolutely true. ly, if this doc CAN listen to reason, I would definitely edit that part out of it. : ) Re: Bloodwork Results from New Endro > > > TSH L 0.056 range 0.350-5.350 > T4 free 1.59 range0.89-1.76 > T4 11.4 range 4.7-11.4 > T3 101 range 80-200 > > You are feeling tired and worn out, not because of stress, although it > could be a part, (((((hugs)))))) sorry to hear about the year you > had..you are feeling rough because you are hypo..and your doctor > lowering your meds is going to make you more hypo.. > > A quick thyroid 101.. > TSH is Thyroid Stimulating Hormone..it is not a thyroid hormone but a > pituary gland hormone..it is used to regulate how much thyroid hormone > your body thinks it needs or does not need.. ( JMO but totally useless > once you have a diagnosis) > > The thyroid produces two main hormones, T4 and T3..T4 is considered the > storage hormone and the main hormone the thyroid produces.. Synthroid > is a synthetic T4 only replacement medication. > > T3 is considered the active hormone, the hormone the cells use and that > you feel.. the thyroid produces a little T3 but most of the T3 is > produced by the body converting T4 to T3.. > > Not rocket science..just sounds fancy.. T4 is Thyroid hormone with 4 > iodine molecules, strip one of and you get T3.Thyroid hormone with 3 > iodine molecules. > > Now this is where hypo vs hyper differs and comes into play on the > labs.. certain hormones( female hormones) and other reasons control > something called TBG..or Thyroid binding Globin.. 95% of the thyroid > hormones are bound to TBG and circulate through your body until called. > This test.. T4 11.4 range 4.7-11.4 includes the total T4, so the T4 > that is bound, and the T4 that is free..with you being at the top of > the range your TSH is low..and why idiot doc things you are hyper. > > Now a few years ago, they figured out a way to test only the T4 that is > free.. that is the T4 that your body is actually able to use. > This test..T4 free 1.59 range0.89-1.76.. now Synthroid manufactuers > themselves state that when supplementing with Synthroid the aim should > be for the upper 1/2 of the range..although most people do post that > they prefer the upper 2/3 end of the range..so with your range > Synthroid says 1.325-1.76..the upper 2/3 range gives you 1.47-1.76..so > your Free T4 of 1.59 is not only in range but is looking pretty good.. > > Now not to long after they figrued out how to test for the free T4, > they also realized the same issues regarding what is bound and usable > played a role in T3..and they have a test called Free T3.. > Your test..oops doctor did not run it..but he did run a Total T3 test > on you..T3 101 range 80-200..now this is the total T3..so it includes > both bound and Free T3..remember what I said earlier T3 is the active > hormone..the hormone the body uses and feels.. your T3 is hiding in the > basement..no wonder you feel like crud.. > > With such a high Total T4 and such a low Total T3 where is all that > hormone going? You need to work on things to help with > conversion..Sellenium helps..eating a well balanced diet helps.. > Unforunately if it is because of menopause/hormones etc..either waiting > it out or taking a supplement to try and lower the TBG helps..if you > wanna feel like you have been feeling and wait it out.. > or Cytomel which is a synthetic T3 only med would help bring up that T3 > and help you feel human again. > > Unfortuantely you really need to staple the lab sheet with the T3 to > the docs forehead so the doc notices it..I can see the error if the doc > did not run the test..if the doc only ran TSH and Total T4..then just > maybe..although we would all call bad labs with your symptoms and tell > you to get Free's done..but the doc ordered the other tests and did not > look at them.. > > Now this is just me..if that was my ENDO..I would ask the doc how come > you feel like crud, have a normal Free T4 and how lowering your > Synthroid is going to bring the T3 out of the basement.. > The ENDO's answer will let yo uknow if this is a doc you can work with > or not.. if not take your labs to another doc and ask about the T3. > > Kats3boys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 THIS sounds so much like Adrenal Fatigue (low blood pressure and feeling dizzy at the same time), that it's almost unmistakable. Prime feature of it, very classic. I have high blood pressure, probably because of the hypo damage that has occurred to artery walls, etc.....so it would not longer be a prime feature of mine, i.e., LOW blood pressure. Re: Re: Bloodwork Results from New Endro Thank You Thank you for your informative response. Im going on a hunt for another doctor. I have Tricare Prime Insurance so my choices are limited here in lexington KY. I need to find somoene quick because I only have enough thyroxine for 10days plus a script for Synthroid 125mg from that prat of an Endo. I also forgot to mention that my blood pressure is Low plus I randomly feel dizzy and weak. What thats all about I dont know. I have lost 4lbs this past month but that could be connected to Celiac......im so trying to stay on that diet but its hard especially when you dont have many symptoms. Janis Hashi / Celiac Lexington Ky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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