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Hello,

I had breast reduction surgery in December and 8 days later the

plastic surgeons told me " something " was discovered in the removed

tissues by the pathologists. 18 days later I saw a breast cancer

specialist. She informed me they'd found LCIS and DCIS in the

tissues and she gave me a paper to read about Tamoxifen, period. Four

weeks later I saw the oncologists. They said I only had LCIS and

their opinion was that with very close observation {monthly for a

year or so, then trimonthly) and taking Raloxifene they'd be able to

discover any invasive cancers early and be able to decide a course of

action then, depending what all was found. They also mentioned 2

other options...I could do nothing or I could have a bilateral total

mastectomy. I'll see them again next Tuesday.

I've been researching a lot about breast cancer and walking through

my 'anger'. I'm considered stage 0 {and I'm very lucky I had the

reduction surgery). I requested and received a copy of all my

medical records since December 13th. The pathology report says in

very clear plain english that I do have LCIS in both breasts and I do

have DCIS in my left breast.

I'm scared, feeling very lost, and not 100% sure of which path to

take. Recently I found out that I have several aunts, 1st cousins,a

grandmother and a greataunt whom all had invasive breast cancers,

plus several aunts and 1st cousins who have had cervical cancers.

Does anyone have some advice or thoughts to share with me?

Thanks.

Ruth

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Ruth,

If it were me I would have both breasts removed. Better safe than sorry. You

will be in my prayers.

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Hello,

I had breast reduction surgery in December and 8 days later the

plastic surgeons told me " something " was discovered in the removed

tissues by the pathologists. 18 days later I saw a breast cancer

specialist. She informed me they'd found LCIS and DCIS in the

tissues and she gave me a paper to read about Tamoxifen, period. Four

weeks later I saw the oncologists. They said I only had LCIS and

their opinion was that with very close observation {monthly for a

year or so, then trimonthly) and taking Raloxifene they'd be able to

discover any invasive cancers early and be able to decide a course of

action then, depending what all was found. They also mentioned 2

other options...I could do nothing or I could have a bilateral total

mastectomy. I'll see them again next Tuesday.

I've been researching a lot about breast cancer and walking through

my 'anger'. I'm considered stage 0 {and I'm very lucky I had the

reduction surgery). I requested and received a copy of all my

medical records since December 13th. The pathology report says in

very clear plain english that I do have LCIS in both breasts and I do

have DCIS in my left breast.

I'm scared, feeling very lost, and not 100% sure of which path to

take. Recently I found out that I have several aunts, 1st cousins,a

grandmother and a greataunt whom all had invasive breast cancers,

plus several aunts and 1st cousins who have had cervical cancers.

Does anyone have some advice or thoughts to share with me?

Thanks.

Ruth

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Ruth,

I would take the most aggressive response that I

could.

Breast cancer is very treatable and beatable.

sandy from Wisconsin

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> Hello,

> I had breast reduction surgery in December and 8

> days later the

> plastic surgeons told me " something " was discovered

> in the removed

> tissues by the pathologists. 18 days later I saw a

> breast cancer

> specialist. She informed me they'd found LCIS

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Ruth - If I had it to do over, I would have both breasts taken. I only had

my right, but now I have found another lump in my left so I might be going

through everything again. My surgeon at the time was on the side of to do

the least amount necessary. I think – knowing what I know now, that I

should have been more proactive and had the other breast taken…if just to

prevent the fear of reoccurrence that I have been living with. Really, you’

d be surprised how little you miss them when they’re gone. But, of course,

that’s my experience with a very supportive family and friends.

new member here...

Hello,

I had breast reduction surgery in December and 8 days later the

plastic surgeons told me " something " was discovered in the removed

tissues by the pathologists. 18 days later I saw a breast cancer

specialist. She informed me they'd found LCIS and DCIS in the

tissues and she gave me a paper to read about Tamoxifen, period. Four

weeks later I saw the oncologists. They said I only had LCIS and

their opinion was that with very close observation {monthly for a

year or so, then trimonthly) and taking Raloxifene they'd be able to

discover any invasive cancers early and be able to decide a course of

action then, depending what all was found. They also mentioned 2

other options...I could do nothing or I could have a bilateral total

mastectomy. I'll see them again next Tuesday.

I've been researching a lot about breast cancer and walking through

my 'anger'. I'm considered stage 0 {and I'm very lucky I had the

reduction surgery). I requested and received a copy of all my

medical records since December 13th. The pathology report says in

very clear plain english that I do have LCIS in both breasts and I do

have DCIS in my left breast.

I'm scared, feeling very lost, and not 100% sure of which path to

take. Recently I found out that I have several aunts, 1st cousins,a

grandmother and a greataunt whom all had invasive breast cancers,

plus several aunts and 1st cousins who have had cervical cancers.

Does anyone have some advice or thoughts to share with me?

Thanks.

Ruth

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I had cancer only in my left breast, but I had a bilateral

mastectomy because I fear recurrence. I'm being very aggressive w/

my surgeries. I'm having my ovaries removed next month because my

cancer is es+, and there is ovarian cancer in my family. I have a

10 year old child, and I'm doing everything I can to live as long as

I can for him.

>

> Hello,

> I had breast reduction surgery in December and 8 days later the

> plastic surgeons told me " something " was discovered in the removed

> tissues by the pathologists. 18 days later I saw a breast cancer

> specialist. She informed me they'd found LCIS and DCIS in the

> tissues and she gave me a paper to read about Tamoxifen, period.

Four

> weeks later I saw the oncologists. They said I only had LCIS and

> their opinion was that with very close observation {monthly for a

> year or so, then trimonthly) and taking Raloxifene they'd be able

to

> discover any invasive cancers early and be able to decide a course

of

> action then, depending what all was found. They also mentioned 2

> other options...I could do nothing or I could have a bilateral

total

> mastectomy. I'll see them again next Tuesday.

> I've been researching a lot about breast cancer and walking

through

> my 'anger'. I'm considered stage 0 {and I'm very lucky I had the

> reduction surgery). I requested and received a copy of all my

> medical records since December 13th. The pathology report says in

> very clear plain english that I do have LCIS in both breasts and I

do

> have DCIS in my left breast.

> I'm scared, feeling very lost, and not 100% sure of which path to

> take. Recently I found out that I have several aunts, 1st

cousins,a

> grandmother and a greataunt whom all had invasive breast cancers,

> plus several aunts and 1st cousins who have had cervical cancers.

> Does anyone have some advice or thoughts to share with me?

> Thanks.

> Ruth

>

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> Hello,

> I had breast reduction surgery in December and 8 days later the

> plastic surgeons told me " something " was discovered in the removed

> tissues by the pathologists. 18 days later I saw a breast cancer

> specialist. She informed me they'd found LCIS and DCIS in the

> tissues and she gave me a paper to read about Tamoxifen, period.

Four

> weeks later I saw the oncologists. They said I only had LCIS and

> their opinion was that with very close observation {monthly for a

> year or so, then trimonthly) and taking Raloxifene they'd be able

to

> discover any invasive cancers early and be able to decide a course

of

> action then, depending what all was found. They also mentioned 2

> other options...I could do nothing or I could have a bilateral

total

> mastectomy.

I agree that that doesn't seem very helpful - nothing or everything.

In my own case, because there were two cancers in the same breast,

the surgeon was adamant that I have a mastectomy of that breast.

Period. She said my breast wanted to make cancer, and that was her

recommendation, rather than two lumpectomies (one was DCIS, and the

other IDC). Lobular cancer is rarer than ductal. Have you done any

research online at the verious cancer organizations to see what the

treatment options are there?

> I'll see them again next Tuesday.

> I've been researching a lot about breast cancer and walking

through

> my 'anger'. I'm considered stage 0 {and I'm very lucky I had the

> reduction surgery). I requested and received a copy of all my

> medical records since December 13th. The pathology report says in

> very clear plain english that I do have LCIS in both breasts and I

do

> have DCIS in my left breast.

That's pretty heavy to deal with - multiple sites in one breast, and

at least one site in both, even if it is very early.

> I'm scared, feeling very lost, and not 100% sure of which path to

> take. Recently I found out that I have several aunts, 1st

cousins,a

> grandmother and a greataunt whom all had invasive breast cancers,

> plus several aunts and 1st cousins who have had cervical cancers.

> Does anyone have some advice or thoughts to share with me?

Given the number of relative you have who've had breast cancer, it

seems to me that you should probably undergo some genetic testing. I

had a strong family history as well: my father's sister had early

onset and died from it in her mid-30s, about 45 years ago. One of my

father's first cousins also had it, and eventually died from colon

cancer years later. My father developed it 10 years ago, and my

older sister a couple years later. Now me (diagnosed 12/29/06). I

had the genetics test done, and it turns out I tested positive for

one of the mutations on the BRCA1 gene (first BReast CAncer gene

discovered. On account of the statistics associated with that

mutation, I opted for a bilateral mastectomy and a salpingo-

oophorectomy (ovaries and tubes removed) as well, for risk reduction

of recurrence. That was done on Feb. 8, 2007.

Ovarian cancer is associated with the BRCA mutations, but I don't

know if cervical cancer is. It may be, but it seems associated with

the human papilloma virus. Women with HIV are more at risk for

cervical cancer, for example, and that is also why there is a

vaccine that is now available.

Anyway, if your family history is that strong, I recommend you find

someone who will get you tested for the breast cancer gene

mutations. The first test done on someone in your family is about

$3k, so you would need insurance to pick it up unless you just

happen to have that much money lying around. Once you know the

specific mutation, other members of your family can be tested for

just that one, for about $300-$400. It is also possible,

unfortunately, that the specific mutation that involves your family

isn't identified yet, so you might want to treat a 'negative'

results (ie negative for mutation) with caution, given the family

history.

If you don't want your insurance company to know, there are places

that will do it without putting in your record, but you'll have to

pay for the tests yourself.

Once you have the results, it might make your decision a little

easier, because you'll have some numbers to deal with. And my

surgeon would *not* have done all that surgery if the genetics tests

had come out negative - she would not have removed healthy tissue

unless she was sure there was considerable risk. With the results,

she would have insisted on the ovaries coming out because she said

there is no good screen for ovarian cancer, but she would have let

me keep the other breast had I so chosen, since there is good

screening for breast cancer.

I hope this helps.

Ann

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Hi Ruth, have you thought about seeing another oncologist? I have a

hard time saying what other people should or should not do, sometimes

I don't know what I should do for myself. But with that much history

in your family maybe you should see someone else. I will say this

much: I was diagnosed with DCIS in 2004, left breast only, had a

lumpectomy followed by radiation. My cancer came back as stage 3 in

the same side; I was rediagnosed in October of last year. Although

the right side was clear I opted to have both breasts removed and

while it's been hard I am still happy with my decision. I know about

the anger part; I am still dealing with it. There are several lovely

ladies here who have really helped me with it both on the forum as

well as through off line emails (Thank You to You Know Who You

Are:) ). It is such a very personal decision about what to do, how

to deal with the anger, etc. But what I want to say is this...I

didn't want to risk the chance of having to go through this all over

again in the future with the right breast. Knowing what I know now,

if I were in your shoes, I would have both removed, commit the time

involved for reconstruction if that's what you want. Hindsight is

20/20 but wish I had a crystal ball the first go round; I would have

removed both of them then. Did your oncologist tell you what the

percentage chances of a reoccurence were with each alternative? Ask

them that, they should be able to tell you based on your pathology.

>

> Hello,

> I had breast reduction surgery in December and 8 days later the

> plastic surgeons told me " something " was discovered in the removed

> tissues by the pathologists. 18 days later I saw a breast cancer

> specialist. She informed me they'd found LCIS and DCIS in the

> tissues and she gave me a paper to read about Tamoxifen, period.

Four

> weeks later I saw the oncologists. They said I only had LCIS and

> their opinion was that with very close observation {monthly for a

> year or so, then trimonthly) and taking Raloxifene they'd be able

to

> discover any invasive cancers early and be able to decide a course

of

> action then, depending what all was found. They also mentioned 2

> other options...I could do nothing or I could have a bilateral

total

> mastectomy. I'll see them again next Tuesday.

> I've been researching a lot about breast cancer and walking through

> my 'anger'. I'm considered stage 0 {and I'm very lucky I had the

> reduction surgery). I requested and received a copy of all my

> medical records since December 13th. The pathology report says in

> very clear plain english that I do have LCIS in both breasts and I

do

> have DCIS in my left breast.

> I'm scared, feeling very lost, and not 100% sure of which path to

> take. Recently I found out that I have several aunts, 1st cousins,a

> grandmother and a greataunt whom all had invasive breast cancers,

> plus several aunts and 1st cousins who have had cervical cancers.

> Does anyone have some advice or thoughts to share with me?

> Thanks.

> Ruth

>

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Ruth:

Welcome to the best family in the world, connected by the common experience of

breast cancer and all the ups and downs that go with it. This is all new to you,

just like it has been with others who go through this. It would seem that your

doctors could be more specific with you about a lot of things. I would really

be asking them a lot of questions.

I had a ductectomy in both breasts and breast reduction in 2003. Precancer

cells were found at that time and I was told to monitor things and have yearly

mammogram and BSE. In 2006, December 11

I had a mastectomy of the left breast with diagnosis of invasive ductal

carcinoma, stage 2, with no lymph node involvement. I have often wondered if

the breast reduction didn't stir up some cancer cells. No one would really know

but it is a question that I have pondered many times since my diagnosis. I am

concerned that the doctors have not been more honest and straightforward,

especially with your family history.

This is a sudden change in your life and probably you are in shock, too. It

is difficult to comprehend all that has transpired thus far. You have my

support here and prayers as well as

those who are in this sisterhood here. There are breast cancer survivors,

newly diagnosed and some, like myself who are somewhere in the middle. We have

all faced uncertainities of diagnoses and treatment but we have made it and so

will you.

Let us know what you find out. Please ask questions. There is never a

question are here that is wrong or silly or anything like that.

Take care.

Ruth rufandduck@...> wrote:

Hello,

I had breast reduction surgery in December and 8 days later the

plastic surgeons told me " something " was discovered in the removed

tissues by the pathologists. 18 days later I saw a breast cancer

specialist. She informed me they'd found LCIS and DCIS in the

tissues and she gave me a paper to read about Tamoxifen, period. Four

weeks later I saw the oncologists. They said I only had LCIS and

their opinion was that with very close observation {monthly for a

year or so, then trimonthly) and taking Raloxifene they'd be able to

discover any invasive cancers early and be able to decide a course of

action then, depending what all was found. They also mentioned 2

other options...I could do nothing or I could have a bilateral total

mastectomy. I'll see them again next Tuesday.

I've been researching a lot about breast cancer and walking through

my 'anger'. I'm considered stage 0 {and I'm very lucky I had the

reduction surgery). I requested and received a copy of all my

medical records since December 13th. The pathology report says in

very clear plain english that I do have LCIS in both breasts and I do

have DCIS in my left breast.

I'm scared, feeling very lost, and not 100% sure of which path to

take. Recently I found out that I have several aunts, 1st cousins,a

grandmother and a greataunt whom all had invasive breast cancers,

plus several aunts and 1st cousins who have had cervical cancers.

Does anyone have some advice or thoughts to share with me?

Thanks.

Ruth

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Hi Ruth and welcome. I would agree with the majority here who have

commented in saying that I would consider treating this very

aggressively. It also seems like you are not getting straight

answers from your doctor's and that is key in determining what you

should do next. You can't really make good decisions without all of

the information - right? I had and invasive Stage I, Grade 3 just

one year ago, chose to have a lumpectomy (then had to have it re-

excised 7 months after) and if I had it to do over again, I'd have a

double mastectomy.

Hang in there - ask tons of questions - we've all been where you are

and we're here to help.

Hugs!

Ellen

>

> Hello,

> I had breast reduction surgery in December and 8 days later the

> plastic surgeons told me " something " was discovered in the removed

> tissues by the pathologists. 18 days later I saw a breast cancer

> specialist. She informed me they'd found LCIS and DCIS in the

> tissues and she gave me a paper to read about Tamoxifen, period.

Four

> weeks later I saw the oncologists. They said I only had LCIS and

> their opinion was that with very close observation {monthly for a

> year or so, then trimonthly) and taking Raloxifene they'd be able

to

> discover any invasive cancers early and be able to decide a course

of

> action then, depending what all was found. They also mentioned 2

> other options...I could do nothing or I could have a bilateral

total

> mastectomy. I'll see them again next Tuesday.

> I've been researching a lot about breast cancer and walking

through

> my 'anger'. I'm considered stage 0 {and I'm very lucky I had the

> reduction surgery). I requested and received a copy of all my

> medical records since December 13th. The pathology report says in

> very clear plain english that I do have LCIS in both breasts and I

do

> have DCIS in my left breast.

> I'm scared, feeling very lost, and not 100% sure of which path to

> take. Recently I found out that I have several aunts, 1st

cousins,a

> grandmother and a greataunt whom all had invasive breast cancers,

> plus several aunts and 1st cousins who have had cervical cancers.

> Does anyone have some advice or thoughts to share with me?

> Thanks.

> Ruth

>

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>Hi Ruth: Let me give you the dissenting opinion. You just had a bilateral

reduction

mammoplasty. In reducing the fatty tissue in the breast you have greatly reduced

the local

production of estrogen in the breasts which is, presumably, what has created the

local

environment that is conducive to possibly developing breast carcinoma. I say

" possibly "

because in-situ carcinoma is not the same thing as actual invasive carcinoma---

by a long

shot. In-situ carcinoma as an incidental finding on biopsy or at the time of a

reduction

mammoplasty, is not uncommon!! In situ-carcinoma will only progress to actual

invasive

carcinoma about 40% of the time! Many experts believe that reduction

mammoplasties

decrease the chance of ever developing BC by 70%.

That being said... you need to be watched with annual breast screening, and the

scarring

from the mammoplasy will make mammograms less capable of detecting early BC.

Thus,

you may require annual MRI exams for good breast screening. These are not

available

everywhere (you might need to go to a local university medical center where

breast MRI's

are commonly performed). They are not cheap tests..... they cost much more than

mammograms and not all insurance providers pick up the total costs. In

addition, your

doctor may recommend hormone therapy for prevention purposes, for up to 5 years.

Its a lot to think about. Don't feel compelled to make any rash decisions

without having an

adequate time to read, reflect, and discuss your options with those individuals

you trust

and feel comfortable with. Best of luck, Anne V.

> Hello,

> I had breast reduction surgery in December and 8 days later the

> plastic surgeons told me " something " was discovered in the removed

> tissues by the pathologists. 18 days later I saw a breast cancer

> specialist. She informed me they'd found LCIS and DCIS in the

> tissues and she gave me a paper to read about Tamoxifen, period. Four

> weeks later I saw the oncologists. They said I only had LCIS and

> their opinion was that with very close observation {monthly for a

> year or so, then trimonthly) and taking Raloxifene they'd be able to

> discover any invasive cancers early and be able to decide a course of

> action then, depending what all was found. They also mentioned 2

> other options...I could do nothing or I could have a bilateral total

> mastectomy. I'll see them again next Tuesday.

> I've been researching a lot about breast cancer and walking through

> my 'anger'. I'm considered stage 0 {and I'm very lucky I had the

> reduction surgery). I requested and received a copy of all my

> medical records since December 13th. The pathology report says in

> very clear plain english that I do have LCIS in both breasts and I do

> have DCIS in my left breast.

> I'm scared, feeling very lost, and not 100% sure of which path to

> take. Recently I found out that I have several aunts, 1st cousins,a

> grandmother and a greataunt whom all had invasive breast cancers,

> plus several aunts and 1st cousins who have had cervical cancers.

> Does anyone have some advice or thoughts to share with me?

> Thanks.

> Ruth

>

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Ruth,

Let me tell you my story. In the process of getting ready for bil.

breast reduction, my screening mammogram showed a suspicious spot.

Further testing, which included an MRI, confirmed that this non

palpable lesion needed to be excised. Pathology showed infiltrating

ductal carcinoma, ER+PR+. Sentinel node biopsy was negative. I went

ahead and had the breast reductions, with the plastic surgeon taking

more tissue from the area of the lump. I just started on radiation

treatments, then will go on Femara for 5 years.

Had I not done the breast reductions, the recommendation was to have

radiation, followed by Femara.

So your story is just a little bit backwards of mine, and even

better, as you have LCIS and DCIS. Take a deep breath, relax, thank

your guardian angel that it was found, and listen to your

oncologist. Get a second opinion if you are not comfortable.

The radiologist who found the suspicious spot in the first place

thinks that I should have yearly MRIs because the scarring from the

reductions may mask finding another cancer. Fortunately, I am a

nurse practitioner at that clinic, so will be able to work the

insurance to get it paid for.

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