Re: Emergency at work PANIC attacks

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If you don't feel sleepy after it passes than it is not a true panic attack, not sure whether that is good or bad. Bubbe Gittel************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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Did your doc say what it is or could be if you DON’T feel like sleeping afterwards?

Would be good to know... I get them but don’t always feel exhausted afterwards.

Thanks,

sue

My doc said one sure way to know if you are having a panic/anxiety attack is how you feel when it is over. If you just want to sleep then you indeed have had a panic attack. I hope this post finds you feeling better. Bubbe Gittel

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The level of the exhaustion afterwards has to do with the level of the surge and how much 'energy' you had in your system. The adrenal surge burns calories, among other things, and can drop blood sugar which contributes to the fatigue.

Also, if your body is easily fatigued from physical activity an adrenal surge will act like that on your body as well, making you feel physically 'spent'

The sooner that you can recognize that it's a panic/anxiety attack and remove yourself from the situation or otherwise calm yourself the shorter the duration of the surge and the less impact on your body.

Topper ()

On Thu, 10 May 2007 19:21:52 -0500 JustYourTypeDTP writes:

Did your doc say what it is or could be if you DON’T feel like sleeping afterwards?Would be good to know... I get them but don’t always feel exhausted afterwards.Thanks,sue

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Maybe there are degrees of panic attacks. Best, gail************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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I usually don’t feel sleepy, so then what the heck is it? Sometimes I actually have to get out of line at the store cuz I feel I am gonna “freak out” and nothing is going on

sue

If you don't feel sleepy after it passes than it is not a true panic attack, not sure whether that is good or bad. Bubbe Gittel

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HI Topper,

I have suffered from anxiety since I was a child. At 30 I was “diagnosed” with social phobia — I get panicky and embarrassed in public easily.

They put me on xanax 19 years ago and I am STILL trying to get off it. I am way down in dosage by just only started tapering off 2 years ago — it’s a battle.

As I taper off I get more anxious and as I get more anxious, I “panic,” that’s why I am interested in this topic....

I “panic” when I am on line sometimes and then most times not...so I can’t figure out a trigger — the only thing that comes close in my monthly cycle. I seem to have the most “attacks” when I am ovulating and then again a week before “it” comes... I have charted this for over 10 years now but no doctor or pscyh has a solution.

I do try to just tell myself, ok, here it goes again, I am panicking and it will pass and sometimes I DO get out of line, but I am never sure how long it will last, how it will affect others, especially my kids — so I freak out on it sometimes.

I started therapy back up for stress management — I seem to live “on the edge” emotionally with constant threat of panic and so I am trying to relax.

I do exercise, I do yoga, I take hot baths and even get massages --- but still the panic comes out of nowhere

sue

The level of the exhaustion afterwards has to do with the level of the surge and how much 'energy' you had in your system. The adrenal surge burns calories, among other things, and can drop blood sugar which contributes to the fatigue.

Also, if your body is easily fatigued from physical activity an adrenal surge will act like that on your body as well, making you feel physically 'spent'

The sooner that you can recognize that it's a panic/anxiety attack and remove yourself from the situation or otherwise calm yourself the shorter the duration of the surge and the less impact on your body.

Topper ()

On Thu, 10 May 2007 19:21:52 -0500 JustYourTypeDTP writes:

Did your doc say what it is or could be if you DON’T feel like sleeping afterwards?

Would be good to know... I get them but don’t always feel exhausted afterwards.

Thanks,

sue

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what happens when you kind of feel sleepy while it's happening? it's weird, like you are tired or sleepy but something is making you feel on edge?bhurstbrd@... wrote: If you don't feel sleepy after it passes than it is not a true panic attack, not sure whether that is good or bad. Bubbe Gittel**************************************See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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Yes, I would think so. I am seeing a new “shrink” today to talk about it. Some days I am afraid to go to a bookstore for fear of panicking and other days you can’t hold me back — I just assumed I was “weird”. Ok, lol, I AM weird, but still, would love to know how I can prevent the attacks if that’s what they are.

sue

Maybe there are degrees of panic attacks. Best, gail

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SUE,

For years, when I would go to a walk-in clinic, or

" panic " at work, doctors told me that I was having

panic attacks. They would give me xanax or valium and

send me on my way. (Most of these " attacks " felt like

I couldn't breathe, my heart would race and I would

think I was having a heart attack. Out of the blue,

for no reason that I could pinpoint). Come to find

out, all this time, it was due to having GRAVES

(hyperthyroid). My endo gave me Inderal which works

wonders! It's amazing. It's a beta-blocker and

doesn't have the side-effects/sleepiness that I would

get with xanax or valium.

Since starting synthroid myself, I've been able to

decrease the amount of Inderal from 3 x day to just

one time. If I feel " panicky " , I just take an Inderal

and I feel better within minutes.

I do have claustrophobia and an OCD, but the Inderal

has even made those subside.

This may not be similar to your situation, but it

really works for me. I, too, was diagnosed with panic

attacks when all along, it was due to my thyroid.

Good Luck Sue. Hope you feel better soon.

Dot

--- JustYourTypeDTP justyourtypedtp@...>

wrote:

> HI Topper,

>

> I have suffered from anxiety since I was a child. At

> 30 I was ³diagnosed²

> with social phobia ‹ I get panicky and embarrassed

> in public easily.

> They put me on xanax 19 years ago and I am STILL

> trying to get off it. I am

> way down in dosage by just only started tapering off

> 2 years ago ‹ it¹s a

> battle.

> As I taper off I get more anxious and as I get more

> anxious, I ³panic,²

> that¹s why I am interested in this topic....

> I ³panic² when I am on line sometimes and then most

> times not...so I can¹t

> figure out a trigger ‹ the only thing that comes

> close in my monthly cycle.

> I seem to have the most ³attacks² when I am

> ovulating and then again a week

> before ³it² comes... I have charted this for over 10

> years now but no doctor

> or pscyh has a solution.

> I do try to just tell myself, ok, here it goes

> again, I am panicking and it

> will pass and sometimes I DO get out of line, but I

> am never sure how long

> it will last, how it will affect others, especially

> my kids ‹ so I freak out

> on it sometimes.

> I started therapy back up for stress management ‹ I

> seem to live ³on the

> edge² emotionally with constant threat of panic and

> so I am trying to relax.

> I do exercise, I do yoga, I take hot baths and even

> get massages --- but

> still the panic comes out of nowhere

>

> sue

>

>

> On 5/10/07 7:38 PM, " topper2@... "

> topper2@...> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > The level of the exhaustion afterwards has to do

> with the level of the surge

> > and how much 'energy' you had in your system. The

> adrenal surge burns

> > calories, among other things, and can drop blood

> sugar which contributes to

> > the fatigue.

> >

> > Also, if your body is easily fatigued from

> physical activity an adrenal surge

> > will act like that on your body as well, making

> you feel physically 'spent'

> >

> > The sooner that you can recognize that it's a

> panic/anxiety attack and remove

> > yourself from the situation or otherwise calm

> yourself the shorter the

> > duration of the surge and the less impact on your

> body.

> >

> > Topper ()

> >

> > On Thu, 10 May 2007 19:21:52 -0500 JustYourTypeDTP

> > justyourtypedtp@...> writes:

> >>

> >> Did your doc say what it is or could be if you

> DON¹T feel like sleeping

> >> afterwards?

> >> Would be good to know... I get them but don¹t

> always feel exhausted

> >> afterwards.

> >>

> >> Thanks,

> >> sue

> >>

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Hi Dot,

Thanks for your very thoughtful reply

I really don’t have tightness or raciness — I simply feel I NEED to get away, to not be seen ... And it literally comes out of NOWHERE. I can be laughing and talking and then just “FREEZE” and feel “weird.” I think mine is panic but maybe hormonally related --- it’s very frustrating.

Sue

SUE,

For years, when I would go to a walk-in clinic, or

" panic " at work, doctors told me that I was having

panic attacks. They would give me xanax or valium and

send me on my way. (Most of these " attacks " felt like

I couldn't breathe, my heart would race and I would

think I was having a heart attack. Out of the blue,

for no reason that I could pinpoint). Come to find

out, all this time, it was due to having GRAVES

(hyperthyroid). My endo gave me Inderal which works

wonders! It's amazing. It's a beta-blocker and

doesn't have the side-effects/sleepiness that I would

get with xanax or valium.

Since starting synthroid myself, I've been able to

decrease the amount of Inderal from 3 x day to just

one time. If I feel " panicky " , I just take an Inderal

and I feel better within minutes.

I do have claustrophobia and an OCD, but the Inderal

has even made those subside.

This may not be similar to your situation, but it

really works for me. I, too, was diagnosed with panic

attacks when all along, it was due to my thyroid.

Good Luck Sue. Hope you feel better soon.

Dot

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Hi Dot,

Thanks for your very thoughtful reply

I really don’t have tightness or raciness — I simply feel I NEED to get away, to not be seen ... And it literally comes out of NOWHERE. I can be laughing and talking and then just “FREEZE” and feel “weird.” I think mine is panic but maybe hormonally related --- it’s very frustrating.

Sue

SUE,

For years, when I would go to a walk-in clinic, or

" panic " at work, doctors told me that I was having

panic attacks. They would give me xanax or valium and

send me on my way. (Most of these " attacks " felt like

I couldn't breathe, my heart would race and I would

think I was having a heart attack. Out of the blue,

for no reason that I could pinpoint). Come to find

out, all this time, it was due to having GRAVES

(hyperthyroid). My endo gave me Inderal which works

wonders! It's amazing. It's a beta-blocker and

doesn't have the side-effects/sleepiness that I would

get with xanax or valium.

Since starting synthroid myself, I've been able to

decrease the amount of Inderal from 3 x day to just

one time. If I feel " panicky " , I just take an Inderal

and I feel better within minutes.

I do have claustrophobia and an OCD, but the Inderal

has even made those subside.

This may not be similar to your situation, but it

really works for me. I, too, was diagnosed with panic

attacks when all along, it was due to my thyroid.

Good Luck Sue. Hope you feel better soon.

Dot

..

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I had those all my life, but they got so much worse with Hashimoto's, unbeknownest to me at the time. The weird flushing, turning away, feeling like I was "on display", when just minutes before, I didn't care what anyone thought about me, haha. The feeling of needing to get up and run, and, actually, that's what I did, was run miles a day, for yrs. Jogging 5 miles or so seemed to quell some of it, so I see it now as cortisol that was going wild, trying to make up for that thyroid hormone I just didn't have, or, at times, trying to keep up with the amts that were probably pouring out of my thyroid (hypo to hyper and back again), that is, when the thyroid still had some of it's own gusto left. Plus all the other hormonal changes that were taking place in my body. I don't have them any more, probably LOW adrenal (guessing), but I can react when needed. That's good for my job, lol, since I'm on a nursing floor. Now, it's more like battling mental depression from being immersed in that all the time, so it's 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. I think that, because of all this, I can handle life's storms a little better, and say "so what" much more often, as in "I lived through that, and I can live through this". I had those "attacks" for better than 10 yrs before I was diagnosed with the thyroid disease, then discovered on my own much later what all those little antibodies can do in the brain also.

Re: Emergency at work PANIC attacks

Hi Dot,Thanks for your very thoughtful reply :)I really don’t have tightness or raciness — I simply feel I NEED to get away, to not be seen ... And it literally comes out of NOWHERE. I can be laughing and talking and then just “FREEZE” and feel “weird.” I think mine is panic but maybe hormonally related --- it’s very frustrating.SueSUE,For years, when I would go to a walk-in clinic, or"panic" at work, doctors told me that I was havingpanic attacks. They would give me xanax or valium andsend me on my way. (Most of these "attacks" felt likeI couldn't breathe, my heart would race and I wouldthink I was having a heart attack. Out of the blue,for no reason that I could pinpoint). Come to findout, all this time, it was due to having GRAVES(hyperthyroid).