Re: Sami's Labs - Talking a bit about 'them' and counting a coup!

[Guest guest]

Topper,

You have a way of typing just what we are going thru. Yes I remember

those days and sometimes still have them. The peeing thing got me. I

do that even today and water just goes thru me. I think I have been

off for so long that I don't know what normal is anymore and I'm

always hoping I can do better.

Sami

>

> You know what I'd wish for if I found the Genie's lamp?

>

> that for 2 full days, without knowing it was only going to be 48 hours.

> That everyone on the planet could find out what it's like to be hypo.

>

> To forget where the remote is, the day of the week, or if you took meds.

>

> To be so tired that you can't get up to go pee, and when the urge is

just

> so great that you HAVE to get up and deal with all the pain involved

with

> moving and walking that you don't make it to the toilet in time. Then

> stand there with soggy britches and stare at the shower wondering if

it's

> worth attempting to get in.. (you can laugh at this one.. then realize

> that this little story is not ONLY mine. I don't even know how many have

> told me off list that this has happened to them, I won't name names, no

> one has to say 'that happened to me too'.... just realize that it

> happens.)

>

> I could go on and on with a mile long list.. and then you guys could add

> even more and make it a two mile long list...

>

[Guest guest]

I makes me so mad sometimes. I'll feel like I'm the only one in the world

going through some of this stuff... and with all that comes up here and

how I see time and time again how many others have some of the odd

symptoms that I do I should know better.

Sometimes it's just hard to talk of the embarrassing stuff in front of so

many folks, I'm that way lots of times too... then I'll get into a

discussion with someone off list and find out that there are others...

that I'm not weird with THAT thing either...

I see commercials on TV that make me livid. There are several new sleep

aid ones out now that actually give the description of adrenal fatigue's

affect on sleep and push their pill... Then the ones for incontinence

pads, yeah, I know it's something that happens to some women as part of

growing older and/or child birth.. but not to the degree that it seems to

affect women... how many of the women that buy that stuff aren't dealing

with a physical 'injury' (for lack of a better term) but are dealing with

hypo and this is the red flag symptom for them???

I could go on and on.. but I won't.. It's Monday morning. Today will be a

good day!

Topper ()

On Mon, 07 May 2007 05:56:58 -0000 " Sami " samkelly729@...>

writes:

> Topper,

> You have a way of typing just what we are going thru. Yes I

> remember

> those days and sometimes still have them. The peeing thing got me.

> I

> do that even today and water just goes thru me. I think I have

> been

> off for so long that I don't know what normal is anymore and I'm

> always hoping I can do better.

>

> Sami

[Guest guest]

Now that hit a chord with me too - looking at symptoms

but ignoring cause. Have a look at this article and

note the hypo reference!

Why spring babies could do worse at school

By FIONA MacRAE - Last updated at 22:00pm on 6th May

2007

Babies born in the spring could be less intelligent

becuase of the effect of pesticides, doctors warn.

A study of more than 1.5 million children clearly

showed that those conceived in the summer - when

pesticide use is at its highest - are less clever than

other youngsters.

It is thought that spring babies may fare less well at

school because they receive the most exposure to

pesticides during the first few months of pregnancy -

a critical time for brain development.

Researcher Winchester, a professor of clinical

paediatrics, said: " The foetal brain begins developing

soon after conception.

" The pesticides we use to control pests in fields and

our homes and the nitrates we use to fertilise our

crops and even our lawns are at their highest level in

summer.

" Exposure to pesticides and nitrates can alter the

hormonal milieu of the pregnant mother and the

developing foetal brain. "

Dr Winchester, of Indiana University School of

Medicine, looked at how the exam performance of more

than 1.5million children aged between eight and

fifteen years old varied with month of birth. Levels

of pesticide and fertiliser use throughout the year

were also monitored.

Analysis showed that those conceived in the summer

tended to do significantly worse in maths and English.

Presenting findings to the Pediatric Academic

Societies' annual conference in the USA, the

researcher said that while he hadn't actually proved

that pesticides were the problem, his findings

" strongly supported such a hypothesis " .

He cautioned: " Neurodevelopmental consequences of

exposure to pesticides and nitrates many not be

obvious for many decades. "

Other work by the same team showed that more babies

are born prematurely when pesticide use is at its

highest.

Dr Lemons, also of Indiana University, said: " I

believe this work may lay the foundation for some of

the most important basic and clinical research and

public health initiatives of our time.

" To recognise that what we put into our environment

has potential pandemic effects on pregnancy outcome

and possibly on child development is a momentous

observation, which hopefully will transform the way

humanity cares for its world. "

Pesticides are already known to cause thyroid problems

in mothers-to-be - a condition thought to affect the

intelligence of the unborn child.

Other studies have shown that exposure to pesticides

almost doubles a person's risk of Parkinson's disease.

In 2005, the Royal Commission on Environmental

Pollution said that spraying fields was a potential

health risk and could be responsible for diseases

including Parkinson's, cancer and ME.

Georgina Downs, of the UK Pesticides Campaign, said:

" Pregnant women and their unborn babies, babies and

young children and those who are ill already are

particularly vulnerable to the effects of pesticides. "

The Crop Protection Association, which represents

pesticide manufacturers, says pesticides are vital to

farming and gardeners and their use is strictly

regulated.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/technology/technology.html?in_art\

icle_id=453132&in_page_id=1965

--- topper2@... wrote:

> I makes me so mad sometimes. I'll feel like I'm the

> only one in the world

> going through some of this stuff... and with all

> that comes up here and

> how I see time and time again how many others have

> some of the odd

> symptoms that I do I should know better.

>

> Sometimes it's just hard to talk of the embarrassing

> stuff in front of so

> many folks, I'm that way lots of times too... then

> I'll get into a

> discussion with someone off list and find out that

> there are others...

> that I'm not weird with THAT thing either...

>

> I see commercials on TV that make me livid. There

> are several new sleep

> aid ones out now that actually give the description

> of adrenal fatigue's

> affect on sleep and push their pill... Then the ones

> for incontinence

> pads, yeah, I know it's something that happens to

> some women as part of

> growing older and/or child birth.. but not to the

> degree that it seems to

> affect women... how many of the women that buy that

> stuff aren't dealing

> with a physical 'injury' (for lack of a better term)

> but are dealing with

> hypo and this is the red flag symptom for them???

>

> I could go on and on.. but I won't.. It's Monday

> morning. Today will be a

> good day!

>

> Topper ()

>

> On Mon, 07 May 2007 05:56:58 -0000 " Sami "

> samkelly729@...>

> writes:

> > Topper,

> > You have a way of typing just what we are going

> thru. Yes I

> > remember

> > those days and sometimes still have them. The

> peeing thing got me.

> > I

> > do that even today and water just goes thru me. I

> think I have

> > been

> > off for so long that I don't know what normal is

> anymore and I'm

> > always hoping I can do better.

> >

> > Sami

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Topper,

Your the one that has always said " Ask the questions? " Chances are

there is ten lurkers wanting the same answers to that question. You

always brings up things that I go aHa I do that! I keep reading

hoping that I will figure out what may help me the best. Knowledge is

power with this disease.

Have a Good Monday!

Sami

>

> I makes me so mad sometimes. I'll feel like I'm the only one in the

world

> going through some of this stuff... and with all that comes up here and

> how I see time and time again how many others have some of the odd

> symptoms that I do I should know better.

>