Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Oh man I remember them. We even carried the commercial device. Dave Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T Re: Man oh man > > > > >>> Does being a medic for 19 years make you better than one who has > been one for 15 years? <<< > > Yes. Reporting your years as a medic is like the richter scale. Each > year is equivalent to a factor of ten. > > Someone who has been a medic for two years is ten times better than > someone who has been a medic for one year. Three-year medics are ten > times better than two year medics, and so on. > > It is in the Bible. Look it up. It is somewhere near the back. > > Kenny Navarro > Dallas > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 couldn't believe it when I was ordered by an on-line doc to place them (probably 1981) but was glad I knew how what it was....I sure didn't want to ask.....only time I ever placed them Don >>> " Thom Seeber " 1/23/2009 6:36 AM >>> OK, Who remembers using rotating tourniquets? That should set a bookmark to age. Thom Seeber, CCEMT-P Re: Man oh man > > > > >>> Does being a medic for 19 years make you better than one who has > been one for 15 years? <<< > > Yes. Reporting your years as a medic is like the richter scale. Each > year is equivalent to a factor of ten. > > Someone who has been a medic for two years is ten times better than > someone who has been a medic for one year. Three-year medics are ten > times better than two year medics, and so on. > > It is in the Bible. Look it up. It is somewhere near the back. > > Kenny Navarro > Dallas > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Got those too . The loading dose of two Bicarbs and an Epi followed by Bicarb q 5 and epi q 3. Ah yes..... Those were the days...... Double digit pHs upon arrival at ER Dave Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T Re: Man oh man > > > > >>> Does being a medic for 19 years make you better than one who has > been one for 15 years? <<< > > Yes. Reporting your years as a medic is like the richter scale. Each > year is equivalent to a factor of ten. > > Someone who has been a medic for two years is ten times better than > someone who has been a medic for one year. Three-year medics are ten > times better than two year medics, and so on. > > It is in the Bible. Look it up. It is somewhere near the back. > > Kenny Navarro > Dallas > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Oh....now here's some great conversation.....memories of " the resuscitator " (that's funeral home days)...not called demand valve, just " resuscitator " ....the half-rings....Q2's...Summer's raised-roof vehicles (or low-roof)....LP6s that weighed freakin' 55 lbs I bet.....as said - boxes & boxes of bicarb.....CaCl for EMD.....Levophed and Aramine.....Ferno 35s (or even the " kick-down " model whatever # that was)...good old notched wooden short boards.....the only PPE was surgeons' gloves which we never wore...nearly worthless airsplints and ladder splints.....'S' tubes (not always OPAs but 'S' tubes)....seeing the first " twin-sonic " -WOW!! (done with tongue-in-cheek)... Gene Weatherall and Jimmy Dunn skills testing us (scared the fool out of us)...Gene always had that smile on his face and, at first, all of us young, green EMTs didn't know what it meant and were even more scared to death because of it.....ahhh yes....those were the days (someone should say huh?) Bunch of old Fs >>> " Sharp, Barry " 1/22/2009 5:08 PM >>> But if you can't remember testing out on a -half ring you are a newbie not matter how many years. LOL Barry Barry Sharp, MSHP, CHES Program Coordinator Tobacco Prevention & Control Texas Dept. of State Health Services Barry.Sharp@... PLEASE NOTE NEW MAILING ADDRESS: P.O. Box 149347 Mail Code 2018 Austin, Texas 78714-9347 ________________________________ From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Kenny Navarro Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 4:48 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: Man oh man >>> Does being a medic for 19 years make you better than one who has been one for 15 years? <<< Yes. Reporting your years as a medic is like the richter scale. Each year is equivalent to a factor of ten. Someone who has been a medic for two years is ten times better than someone who has been a medic for one year. Three-year medics are ten times better than two year medics, and so on. It is in the Bible. Look it up. It is somewhere near the back. Kenny Navarro Dallas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Unfortunately - 25 years from now a bunch of EMS folks will be laughing about all the old-fashioned stuff that we think is state-of-the-art today! ________________________________ From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Bledsoe, DO Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 7:40 AM To: texasems-l Subject: RE: Re: Man oh man How about Hyperstat for HTN and Helefoam for burns and box after box of sodium bicarbonate? Re: Man oh man > > > > >>> Does being a medic for 19 years make you better than one who has > been one for 15 years? <<< > > Yes. Reporting your years as a medic is like the richter scale. Each > year is equivalent to a factor of ten. > > Someone who has been a medic for two years is ten times better than > someone who has been a medic for one year. Three-year medics are ten > times better than two year medics, and so on. > > It is in the Bible. Look it up. It is somewhere near the back. > > Kenny Navarro > Dallas > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 That was my experience also for my first certification...ECA at Grapeland Volunteer Fire Department in 1980 - right around graduation. One of the nurses from the hospital helped teach the class and I remember there were a couple of us high school seniors in the class with a bunch of adults - including my best friend's dad who was the Methodist preacher in town. Barry Barry Sharp, MSHP, CHES Program Coordinator Tobacco Prevention & Control Texas Dept. of State Health Services Barry.Sharp@... PLEASE NOTE NEW MAILING ADDRESS: P.O. Box 149347 Mail Code 2018 Austin, Texas 78714-9347 ________________________________ From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Bernie Stafford Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 6:43 PM To: texasems-l Subject: RE: Re: Man oh man Barry, I remember testing on the Half ring with a representative from the local TDH office doing the testing. Bernie Stafford From: texasems-l <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:texasems-l <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Sharp, Barry Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:08 PM To: texasems-l <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: Re: Man oh man But if you can't remember testing out on a -half ring you are a newbie not matter how many years. LOL Barry Barry Sharp, MSHP, CHES Program Coordinator Tobacco Prevention & Control Texas Dept. of State Health Services Barry.Sharp@... <mailto:Barry.Sharp%40dshs.state.tx.us> <mailto:Barry.Sharp%40dshs.state.tx.us> PLEASE NOTE NEW MAILING ADDRESS: P.O. Box 149347 Mail Code 2018 Austin, Texas 78714-9347 ________________________________ From: texasems-l <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:texasems-l <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Kenny Navarro Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 4:48 PM To: texasems-l <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Man oh man >>> Does being a medic for 19 years make you better than one who has been one for 15 years? <<< Yes. Reporting your years as a medic is like the richter scale. Each year is equivalent to a factor of ten. Someone who has been a medic for two years is ten times better than someone who has been a medic for one year. Three-year medics are ten times better than two year medics, and so on. It is in the Bible. Look it up. It is somewhere near the back. Kenny Navarro Dallas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 We had a Burdick Monitor/defibrillator. The monitor, which was about the size of a shoebox, would come out so you didn't have to lug the whole thing, which weigned 53 pounds in its aluminum case. It had 6 leads as I recall, and it would defibrillate at 400 joules, supposedly 100 times on a full battery charge. Talk about delivering them " well done. " GG > > The 'screw' was a relatively late invention...The 'screw' was a relat > monitor/defib units I worked with were separate items, and didn't have > batteries... batteries...<wbr>onl > > ck > S. Krin, DO FAAFP > > > In a message dated 1/22/2009 20:47:53 Central Standard Time, > wegandy1938@wegandy writes: > > That's right. And if you haven't had an oral mouth opener, also known as a > mouth screw, on your ambulance you're a newbie, and if your first > monitor/defibrillat monitor/defibri mo<WBR>or weighed less than 50 poun > > ************ ************<wbr>**From Wall Street to Main Street and > everywhere > up-to-date with the latest news. (http://aol.com?http://aol.com?http://ao) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Yep. Those things found a second life as boat anchors. I wish I had one now to show my students when they whine about lugging all the stuff around. GG > > OMG I used that thing at Forest Hill. Had a green screen. > > Bernie > > From: texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem [mailto:texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem] On > Behalf Of wegandy1938@wegandy > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 5:52 PM > To: texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem > Subject: Re: Re: Man oh man > > We had a Burdick Monitor/defibrillat We had a Burdick Monitor/defibrillat > size of a shoebox, would come out so you didn't have to lug the whole thing, > which weigned 53 pounds in its aluminum case. It had 6 leads as I recall, > and > it would defibrillate at 400 joules, supposedly 100 times on a full battery > charge. Talk about delivering them " well done. " > > GG > In a message dated 1/23/09 7:38:34 AM, krin135@... < > mailto:krin135%mailto:kr> writes: > > > > > The 'screw' was a relatively late invention... The 'screw' was a rela > > monitor/defib units I worked with were separate items, and didn't have > > batteries... batteries...<wbr>onl > > > > ck > > S. Krin, DO FAAFP > > > > > > In a message dated 1/22/2009 20:47:53 Central Standard Time, > > wegandy1938@ wegandy1938@<w > > > > That's right. And if you haven't had an oral mouth opener, also known as a > > mouth screw, on your ambulance you're a newbie, and if your first > > monitor/defibrillat monitor/defibri mo<WBR>or weighed less than 50 poun > > > > ************ ************<wbr>**From Wall Street to Main Street and > > everywhere > > up-to-date with the latest news. (http://aol.com?http://aol.http://aohttp < > http://aol.com?http://aolhttp://aohttp> ) > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 I do. We had one of those phone dial encoder thingies that TDH gave us on a grant. It never worked because the phone company's people were clueless about it and it was a piece of crap to begin with, and they kept switching the numbers around, so that when we were transporting in the middle of the night and tried to call the hospital we'd get somebody who said, " Hello? " And we'd say " Good morning. This is Honey Grove Medic 1, how do you read us? " And the voice on the other end would say, " What the @!#$% & ^? It's 3 o'clock in the $%^* & (# morning. Who the %^() " $ is this? " And we would say, " Please excuse the call. " Then we'd try again and get the same guy. I was on the EMS advisory committee for our RAC, which had received these wonders of modern technology under the grant and doled them out for us, so we complained to TDH about them, and they sent their radio wizard out to straighten things out. This guy had supposedly been a commo man on Air Force 1. If he was, I can only say a prayer of thanks that the President never had to call anybody. Because this guy was clueless. He never was able to make any of the system work. Finally we gave up, disabled the phone patch part of it and reverted to 155.340 for all communications with hospitals. Worked like a charm. GG > > We used a MRL (I don’t remember the model number)… Huge metal case that > weighed a ton. We talked to the hospital on the common HAHERN radio (complete > with phone dial encoder) from the ambulance. > > They were replaced with the Lifepak 5 and Apcor Telemetry. We were sending > strips (just like ny and Roy) and thought we were hot stuff! > > Who remembers the Biophone and the Paramedic in a Box Telecare? > > Jack > > From: texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem [mailto:texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem] On B > ehalf Of wegandy1938@wegandy > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 5:52 PM > To: texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem > Subject: Re: Re: Man oh man > > We had a Burdick Monitor/defibrillat We had a Burdick Monitor/defibrillat > size of a shoebox, would come out so you didn't have to lug the whole thing, > which weigned 53 pounds in its aluminum case. It had 6 leads as I recall, > and > it would defibrillate at 400 joules, supposedly 100 times on a full battery > charge. Talk about delivering them " well done. " > > GG > In a message dated 1/23/09 7:38:34 AM, krin135@... < > mailto:krin135%mailto:kr> writes: > > > > > The 'screw' was a relatively late invention... The 'screw' was a rela > > monitor/defib units I worked with were separate items, and didn't have > > batteries... batteries...<wbr>onl > > > > ck > > S. Krin, DO FAAFP > > > > > > In a message dated 1/22/2009 20:47:53 Central Standard Time, > > wegandy1938@ wegandy1938@<w > > > > That's right. And if you haven't had an oral mouth opener, also known as a > > mouth screw, on your ambulance you're a newbie, and if your first > > monitor/defibrillat monitor/defibri mo<WBR>or weighed less than 50 poun > > > > ************ ************<wbr>**From Wall Street to Main Street and > > everywhere > > up-to-date with the latest news. (http://aol.com?http://aol.http://aohttp < > http://aol.com?http://aolhttp://aohttp> ) > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 I pretty sure that is what you taught me in at TCOM. Bernie Stafford EMTP From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Bledsoe, DO Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 7:40 AM To: texasems-l Subject: RE: Re: Man oh man How about Hyperstat for HTN and Helefoam for burns and box after box of sodium bicarbonate? Re: Man oh man > > > > >>> Does being a medic for 19 years make you better than one who has > been one for 15 years? <<< > > Yes. Reporting your years as a medic is like the richter scale. Each > year is equivalent to a factor of ten. > > Someone who has been a medic for two years is ten times better than > someone who has been a medic for one year. Three-year medics are ten > times better than two year medics, and so on. > > It is in the Bible. Look it up. It is somewhere near the back. > > Kenny Navarro > Dallas > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 OMG I used that thing at Forest Hill. Had a green screen. Bernie From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of wegandy1938@... Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 5:52 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: Re: Man oh man We had a Burdick Monitor/defibrillator. The monitor, which was about the size of a shoebox, would come out so you didn't have to lug the whole thing, which weigned 53 pounds in its aluminum case. It had 6 leads as I recall, and it would defibrillate at 400 joules, supposedly 100 times on a full battery charge. Talk about delivering them " well done. " GG In a message dated 1/23/09 7:38:34 AM, krin135@... <mailto:krin135%40aol.com> writes: > > The 'screw' was a relatively late invention...The 'screw' was a relat > monitor/defib units I worked with were separate items, and didn't have > batteries... batteries...<wbr>onl > > ck > S. Krin, DO FAAFP > > > In a message dated 1/22/2009 20:47:53 Central Standard Time, > wegandy1938@wegandy writes: > > That's right. And if you haven't had an oral mouth opener, also known as a > mouth screw, on your ambulance you're a newbie, and if your first > monitor/defibrillat monitor/defibri mo<WBR>or weighed less than 50 poun > > ************ ************<wbr>**From Wall Street to Main Street and > everywhere > up-to-date with the latest news. (http://aol.com?http://aol.com?http://ao <http://aol.com?http:/aol.com?http://ao> ) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 We used a MRL (I don’t remember the model number)… Huge metal case that weighed a ton. We talked to the hospital on the common HAHERN radio (complete with phone dial encoder) from the ambulance. They were replaced with the Lifepak 5 and Apcor Telemetry. We were sending strips (just like ny and Roy) and thought we were hot stuff! Who remembers the Biophone and the Paramedic in a Box Telecare? Jack From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of wegandy1938@... Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 5:52 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: Re: Man oh man We had a Burdick Monitor/defibrillator. The monitor, which was about the size of a shoebox, would come out so you didn't have to lug the whole thing, which weigned 53 pounds in its aluminum case. It had 6 leads as I recall, and it would defibrillate at 400 joules, supposedly 100 times on a full battery charge. Talk about delivering them " well done. " GG In a message dated 1/23/09 7:38:34 AM, krin135@... <mailto:krin135%40aol.com> writes: > > The 'screw' was a relatively late invention...The 'screw' was a relat > monitor/defib units I worked with were separate items, and didn't have > batteries... batteries...<wbr>onl > > ck > S. Krin, DO FAAFP > > > In a message dated 1/22/2009 20:47:53 Central Standard Time, > wegandy1938@wegandy writes: > > That's right. And if you haven't had an oral mouth opener, also known as a > mouth screw, on your ambulance you're a newbie, and if your first > monitor/defibrillat monitor/defibri mo<WBR>or weighed less than 50 poun > > ************ ************<wbr>**From Wall Street to Main Street and > everywhere > up-to-date with the latest news. (http://aol.com?http://aol.com?http://ao <http://aol.com?http:/aol.com?http://ao> ) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Yeah, and I remember our " ambulances " had retread tires on them and pay was $3.00/hr for EMTs ! Oh wait, that was LAST WEEK !-------------------------Never mind. Subject: RE: Re: Man oh man To: texasems-l Date: Friday, January 23, 2009, 8:35 PM We used a MRL (I don’t remember the model number) Huge metal case that weighed a ton. We talked to the hospital on the common HAHERN radio (complete with phone dial encoder) from the ambulance. They were replaced with the Lifepak 5 and Apcor Telemetry. We were sending strips (just like ny and Roy) and thought we were hot stuff! Who remembers the Biophone and the Paramedic in a Box Telecare? Jack From: texasems-l@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:texasems-l@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of wegandy1938@ aol.com Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 5:52 PM To: texasems-l@yahoogro ups.com Subject: Re: Re: Man oh man We had a Burdick Monitor/defibrillat or. The monitor, which was about the size of a shoebox, would come out so you didn't have to lug the whole thing, which weigned 53 pounds in its aluminum case. It had 6 leads as I recall, and it would defibrillate at 400 joules, supposedly 100 times on a full battery charge. Talk about delivering them " well done. " GG In a message dated 1/23/09 7:38:34 AM, krin135 (AT) aol (DOT) com <mailto:krin135% 40aol.com> writes: > > The 'screw' was a relatively late invention... The 'screw' was a relat > monitor/defib units I worked with were separate items, and didn't have > batteries... batteries... <wbr>onl > > ck > S. Krin, DO FAAFP > > > In a message dated 1/22/2009 20:47:53 Central Standard Time, > wegandy1938@ wegandy writes: > > That's right. And if you haven't had an oral mouth opener, also known as a > mouth screw, on your ambulance you're a newbie, and if your first > monitor/defibrillat monitor/defibri mo<WBR>or weighed less than 50 poun > > ************ ************ <wbr>**From Wall Street to Main Street and > everywhere > up-to-date with the latest news. (http://aol.com? http://aol. com?http: //ao <http://aol.com? http:/aol. com?http: //ao> ) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Those MRL monitors did weigh about half a ton, but I think the Burdick was bigger, almost like a large suitcase stood up on a side. No fun to lug around. We were in high cotton when we got LP5's. I do remember encoding HAHEARN. That system actually worked well, you didn't have to listen to everyone else's traffic. The APCOR's range was not as far, but it had better clartity. Remember looking around on scenes for a stick to break to make a windlass for the old Half-Ring? Remember having to clean and re-use a BVM or an EOA/EGTA? No sharps disposals either. Wow, the good old days. Almost lost a jaw screw down a patient's throat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 OMG i was just skimming and now must pick myself up off the floor from howling oh my " If you don't remember the Half-ring " wow flash back ROFLMAO--- Re: Re: Man oh man Heck, son, when I first tested, the 'half ring' was a new fangled device...we had to put the 'full ring' splint on...and tear the cravats from bedsheets with our teeth (unlike Gene, who had to weave them with his toes)... ck S. Krin, DO FAAFP In a message dated 1/22/2009 17:04:02 Central Standard Time, barry.sharp@... writes: But if you can't remember testing out on a -half ring you are a newbie not matter how many years. LOL **************From Wall Street to Main Street and everywhere in between, stay up-to-date with the latest news. (http://aol.com?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000023) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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