Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 First let me thank you all for the congrats! It is a battle and you all have helped me! Second... Have any of you seen this article about a new possible treatment for cancer? Cheap, easily available, seems safe (since it is already in use in humans for another disease) and it targets only the cancer cells. I checked the University site and it seems real, there is a scientific paper and all. Now it needs to be tested on humans, but there is no money for trials since no pharmaceutical will spend money on a non-profitable drug. Amazing, isn't it? No surprising since I have seen it before. Anyway, maybe there may be something we could do. The article is in this link, check it out: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn10971-cheap-safe-drug-kills-most-cancers.h\ tml Can you imagine a day where cancer can be treated without the rest of the body suffering? Without those side effects? Without surgeries, chemos, radiations? I have goosebumps just thinking about it. If any of you sent this before, forgive... Hugs ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 I stand corrected... it has side effects, but they seem to be tolerable and are well-studied. Link to the University: http://www.depmed.ualberta.ca/dca/ DCA for cancer treatment... First let me thank you all for the congrats! It is a battle and you all have helped me! Second... Have any of you seen this article about a new possible treatment for cancer? Cheap, easily available, seems safe (since it is already in use in humans for another disease) and it targets only the cancer cells. I checked the University site and it seems real, there is a scientific paper and all. Now it needs to be tested on humans, but there is no money for trials since no pharmaceutical will spend money on a non-profitable drug. Amazing, isn't it? No surprising since I have seen it before. Anyway, maybe there may be something we could do. The article is in this link, check it out: http://www.newscien tist.com/ article/dn10971- cheap-safe- drug-kills- most-cancers. html Can you imagine a day where cancer can be treated without the rest of the body suffering? Without those side effects? Without surgeries, chemos, radiations? I have goosebumps just thinking about it. If any of you sent this before, forgive... Hugs ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers. yahoo.com. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 I found this study on DCA so exciting too! I asked my oncologist about it on Friday; unfortunately he was not as excited as me. I wouldn't say he was dismissive because he said it would be wonderful if further studies showed similar results but he is in a " wait and see " mode. I expressed concerns that there would be trouble obtaining funding, but he said he thought they would get funding from somewhere. Hmmm. Curious if anyone else has discussed this with their oncologist. I'd love to hear their reactions as well. Janet B> > > I stand corrected... it has side effects, but they seem to be tolerable and are well-studied. Link to the University: http://www.depmed.ualberta.ca/dca/ > > > DCA for cancer treatment... > > First let me thank you all for the congrats! It is a battle and you all have helped me! > > Second... Have any of you seen this article about a new possible treatment for cancer? Cheap, easily available, seems safe (since it is already in use in humans for another disease) and it targets only the cancer cells. I checked the University site and it seems real, there is a scientific paper and all. Now it needs to be tested on humans, but there is no money for trials since no pharmaceutical will spend money on a non-profitable drug. Amazing, isn't it? No surprising since I have seen it before. Anyway, maybe there may be something we could do. > The article is in this link, check it out: http://www.newscien tist.com/ article/dn10971- cheap-safe- drug-kills- most-cancers. html > > Can you imagine a day where cancer can be treated without the rest of the body suffering? Without those side effects? Without surgeries, chemos, radiations? I have goosebumps just thinking about it. > If any of you sent this before, forgive... > Hugs > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers. yahoo.com. Try it now. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 I don't get it with the DCA. Why not use it anyways. What do you have to lose? It doesn't sound like it could hurt. Marcia > > > > I stand corrected... it has side effects, but they seem to be > tolerable and are well-studied. Link to the University: > http://www.depmed.ualberta.ca/dca/ > > > > > > DCA for cancer treatment... > > > > First let me thank you all for the congrats! It is a battle and you > all have helped me! > > > > Second... Have any of you seen this article about a new possible > treatment for cancer? Cheap, easily available, seems safe (since it > is already in use in humans for another disease) and it targets only > the cancer cells. I checked the University site and it seems real, > there is a scientific paper and all. Now it needs to be tested on > humans, but there is no money for trials since no pharmaceutical will > spend money on a non-profitable drug. Amazing, isn't it? No > surprising since I have seen it before. Anyway, maybe there may be > something we could do. > > The article is in this link, check it out: http://www.newscien > tist.com/ article/dn10971- cheap-safe- drug-kills- most-cancers. html > > > > Can you imagine a day where cancer can be treated without the rest > of the body suffering? Without those side effects? Without surgeries, > chemos, radiations? I have goosebumps just thinking about it. > > If any of you sent this before, forgive... > > Hugs > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers. yahoo.com. > Try it now. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 I guess there is a lot of interests fighting when it comes to cancer treatment. And there is a lot of money. Imagine what it would be, for the pharmaceuticals, the hospitals and even doctors, if a substance, which is cheap, readily available and easy to administer would prove to be more efficient to treat cancer? No chemotherapy, no expensive drugs, no chemo sessions, no hospital stays, etc. A lot of money is involved (specially in rich countries, where people can afford treatment) and a lot of people would be very upset to loose it. Maybe I am too cynical, but I think that those trials don't go forward because there isn't money involved on a medication like DCA. The trials have to happen because there is a lot about dosage, side effects, effectiveness that they do not know. You are very right, it would not hurt. I know doctors and scientists could find volunteers for the trials. Safety is not an issue since this is already in use. Now it is a matter of finding out if it is effective against cancer in humans and how to administer. But, in my opinion, cynical as it is, this is not likely to happen... DCA for cancer treatment... > > > > First let me thank you all for the congrats! It is a battle and you > all have helped me! > > > > Second... Have any of you seen this article about a new possible > treatment for cancer? Cheap, easily available, seems safe (since it > is already in use in humans for another disease) and it targets only > the cancer cells. I checked the University site and it seems real, > there is a scientific paper and all. Now it needs to be tested on > humans, but there is no money for trials since no pharmaceutical will > spend money on a non-profitable drug. Amazing, isn't it? No > surprising since I have seen it before. Anyway, maybe there may be > something we could do. > > The article is in this link, check it out: http://www.newscien > tist.com/ article/dn10971- cheap-safe- drug-kills- most-cancers. html > > > > Can you imagine a day where cancer can be treated without the rest > of the body suffering? Without those side effects? Without surgeries, > chemos, radiations? I have goosebumps just thinking about it. > > If any of you sent this before, forgive... > > Hugs > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers. yahoo.com. > Try it now. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 , I too am a cynic and don't see anything happening with DCA until some drug company or hospital, or doctor can figure out how to make a huge profit. The helping of people is secondary to profit in our society today. At least in the U.S. in Denver > > > > > > I stand corrected... it has side effects, but they seem to be > > tolerable and are well-studied. Link to the University: > > http://www.depmed. ualberta. ca/dca/ > > > > > > > > > DCA for cancer treatment... > > > > > > First let me thank you all for the congrats! It is a battle and you > > all have helped me! > > > > > > Second... Have any of you seen this article about a new possible > > treatment for cancer? Cheap, easily available, seems safe (since it > > is already in use in humans for another disease) and it targets only > > the cancer cells. I checked the University site and it seems real, > > there is a scientific paper and all. Now it needs to be tested on > > humans, but there is no money for trials since no pharmaceutical will > > spend money on a non-profitable drug. Amazing, isn't it? No > > surprising since I have seen it before. Anyway, maybe there may be > > something we could do. > > > The article is in this link, check it out: http://www.newscien > > tist.com/ article/dn10971- cheap-safe- drug-kills- most-cancers. html > > > > > > Can you imagine a day where cancer can be treated without the rest > > of the body suffering? Without those side effects? Without surgeries, > > chemos, radiations? I have goosebumps just thinking about it. > > > If any of you sent this before, forgive... > > > Hugs > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers. yahoo.com. > > Try it now. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 > > I don't get it with the DCA. Why not use it anyways. What do you have > to lose? It doesn't sound like it could hurt. Marcia Why not use it anyways? Because the FDA has to approve it and there are lots of hoops to jump through for that. It needs 1) to be shown to be safe in humans (Phase II clinical trials) and 2) to be shown to actually work (Phase III clinical trials). (Phase I is animal testing, if I remember right.) If your doctor did use it on you, there would be all sorts of forms because basically you are being a human lab rat, and as much as you might say 'why not use it?' the point is that people have been used as guinea pigs before, and not necessarily to their benefit. And there just *might* be something that is really really bad that shows up if enough people get tested. There is a tension between all those rules and finding drugs that will work and be approved by the FDA in a timely manner. This was a big issue when the AIDS epidemic blossomed, and there are now supposed to be procedures in place to put drugs on a fast-track. I'll also say that you have to be careful mixing drugs - approved or not. Remember the Law of Unintended Consequences... Things can look ok, but then later can turn out to be worse than what you started with. I never did drug approval work, but I did do some stuff with medical devices and FDA issues. And I also have a recent paper that's been submitted to some medical journals dealing with how various other drugs and diet and such affect the drugs for women with HIV. Orange and grapefruit juice, interestingly enough, can turn out to be big problems in weakening the body's getting the drug - who'da thunk something so 'obviously' benign and so healthy would be a problem? Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Count me in on the cynic side. Cancer is BIG business and the purpose of treating it is to make huge profits for Big Pharma. Sigh, a little altruism and a less toxic option, for our situation, would be nice! We'd best be willing to look our for ourselves. Ruth > > > > > > > > I stand corrected... it has side effects, but they seem to be > > > tolerable and are well-studied. Link to the University: > > > http://www.depmed. ualberta. ca/dca/ > > > > > > > > > > > > DCA for cancer treatment... > > > > > > > > First let me thank you all for the congrats! It is a battle and > you > > > all have helped me! > > > > > > > > Second... Have any of you seen this article about a new > possible > > > treatment for cancer? Cheap, easily available, seems safe (since > it > > > is already in use in humans for another disease) and it targets > only > > > the cancer cells. I checked the University site and it seems > real, > > > there is a scientific paper and all. Now it needs to be tested on > > > humans, but there is no money for trials since no pharmaceutical > will > > > spend money on a non-profitable drug. Amazing, isn't it? No > > > surprising since I have seen it before. Anyway, maybe there may > be > > > something we could do. > > > > The article is in this link, check it out: http://www.newscien > > > tist.com/ article/dn10971- cheap-safe- drug-kills- most-cancers. > html > > > > > > > > Can you imagine a day where cancer can be treated without the > rest > > > of the body suffering? Without those side effects? Without > surgeries, > > > chemos, radiations? I have goosebumps just thinking about it. > > > > If any of you sent this before, forgive... > > > > Hugs > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers. > yahoo.com. > > > Try it now. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Hi , I think that when it comes to money, we humans are all alike. Everything is moved by money. Hugs PS. Don't forget to send your numbers! DCA for cancer treatment... > > > > > > First let me thank you all for the congrats! It is a battle and you > > all have helped me! > > > > > > Second... Have any of you seen this article about a new possible > > treatment for cancer? Cheap, easily available, seems safe (since it > > is already in use in humans for another disease) and it targets only > > the cancer cells. I checked the University site and it seems real, > > there is a scientific paper and all. Now it needs to be tested on > > humans, but there is no money for trials since no pharmaceutical will > > spend money on a non-profitable drug. Amazing, isn't it? No > > surprising since I have seen it before. Anyway, maybe there may be > > something we could do. > > > The article is in this link, check it out: http://www.newscien > > tist.com/ article/dn10971- cheap-safe- drug-kills- most-cancers. html > > > > > > Can you imagine a day where cancer can be treated without the rest > > of the body suffering? Without those side effects? Without surgeries, > > chemos, radiations? I have goosebumps just thinking about it. > > > If any of you sent this before, forgive... > > > Hugs > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers. yahoo.com. > > Try it now. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 I spoke to a family member who is in Cancer research. They are working on Skin Cancers but as I have been told, much research overlaps. I asked about DCA and this is the reply. ________________________________________________________________ Don't worry, I am not getting crazy and looking for miracle cures. This is curiosity only! Some of the women in my support group were discussing this and are really angry that clinical trials aren't being held. They feel its because there is no money in it for anyone, so they won't try it. I know cancer is a big money maker for some. (yes, I am just a bit cynical) Just wondering if you had ever heard of this and what you may have heard. See below for what they are saying. Kathie ///////////////// Kathie, I don't know too much about this compound but there are hundreds, maybe thousands of drugs that have shown some promise in early laboratory or animal studies that never made it to clinical trial. I understand this is a drug used to treat some rare mitochondrial disorders that is being touted by a scientist/researcher in Alberta as a potential cure for cancer. He has been very effective in getting a lot of public attention among the cancer patient community. I have no idea whether this particular drug warrants this much attention. It may. As an aside, the vaccine program I work with could potentially have a chance in working in breast cancer and a few other cancers but we have not tried to break into those markets, in part because of the stiff competition for patients for clinical trials. Fewer than 10%...I've seen numbers as low as 2%...of cancer patients enroll in clinical trials. There's probably no conspiracy of Big Pharma, and certainly not of Little Pharma, to keep cures off the market but in our current bureaucratic (FDA) litigious (lawyers) society it's damn hard to complete all of the necessary trials and jump through all of the hoops necessary to bring a new drug to market. Also, I believe there are other drugs being tested which supposedly have the same or similar effect but I'd have to do a bit of research to track them down. _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > I stand corrected... it has side effects, but they seem to be > > > tolerable and are well-studied. Link to the University: > > > http://www.depmed. ualberta. ca/dca/ > > > > > > > > > > > > DCA for cancer treatment... > > > > > > > > First let me thank you all for the congrats! It is a battle and > you > > > all have helped me! > > > > > > > > Second... Have any of you seen this article about a new > possible > > > treatment for cancer? Cheap, easily available, seems safe (since > it > > > is already in use in humans for another disease) and it targets > only > > > the cancer cells. I checked the University site and it seems > real, > > > there is a scientific paper and all. Now it needs to be tested on > > > humans, but there is no money for trials since no pharmaceutical > will > > > spend money on a non-profitable drug. Amazing, isn't it? No > > > surprising since I have seen it before. Anyway, maybe there may > be > > > something we could do. > > > > The article is in this link, check it out: http://www.newscien > > > tist.com/ article/dn10971- cheap-safe- drug-kills- most- cancers. > html > > > > > > > > Can you imagine a day where cancer can be treated without the > rest > > > of the body suffering? Without those side effects? Without > surgeries, > > > chemos, radiations? I have goosebumps just thinking about it. > > > > If any of you sent this before, forgive... > > > > Hugs > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers. > yahoo.com. > > > Try it now. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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