i have a crazy response to t4....i have been taking compounded t3 for a year,

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and my t4 is so low its out of range, so i added levothyroxine, and at

first i felt better, and then i began to have eye problems. i felt more

depressed, but my labs were the best they've ever been. i even tried

thyrolar, and got so tired i couldn't move. i am horrifed that i can't

tolorate t4. it was obvious from my labs that i'm converting, but i

felt so, so bad. i am still just on the comp. t3, and i am also very

low in female hormones as i only have 1 ovary. i also tried compounded

t4, and that hurt my eyes the worst. i have pain and they tear up. as

soon as i stop the meds, they get better. i guess at this point i need

to try armour, but i was trying to keep it simple. thanks everyone

[Guest guest]

Sounds more to me like an allergic reaction to a filler or binder in the

levo. Have you tried many brands of it, or only the one? Which brand(s)?

i have a crazy response to t4....i have

been taking compounded t3 for a year,

> and my t4 is so low its out of range, so i added levothyroxine, and at

> first i felt better, and then i began to have eye problems. i felt more

> depressed, but my labs were the best they've ever been. i even tried

> thyrolar, and got so tired i couldn't move. i am horrifed that i can't

> tolorate t4. it was obvious from my labs that i'm converting, but i

> felt so, so bad. i am still just on the comp. t3, and i am also very

> low in female hormones as i only have 1 ovary. i also tried compounded

> t4, and that hurt my eyes the worst. i have pain and they tear up. as

> soon as i stop the meds, they get better. i guess at this point i need

> to try armour, but i was trying to keep it simple. thanks everyone

[Guest guest]

Can you describe the " eye problems? "

~E:)

--- marin@...> wrote:

> Sounds more to me like an allergic reaction to a

> filler or binder in the

> levo. Have you tried many brands of it, or only the

> one? Which brand(s)?

>

>

>

> i have a crazy

> response to t4....i have

> been taking compounded t3 for a year,

>

>

> > and my t4 is so low its out of range, so i added

> levothyroxine, and at

> > first i felt better, and then i began to have eye

> problems. i felt more

> > depressed, but my labs were the best they've ever

> been. i even tried

> > thyrolar, and got so tired i couldn't move. i am

> horrifed that i can't

> > tolorate t4. it was obvious from my labs that i'm

> converting, but i

> > felt so, so bad. i am still just on the comp. t3,

> and i am also very

> > low in female hormones as i only have 1 ovary. i

> also tried compounded

> > t4, and that hurt my eyes the worst. i have pain

> and they tear up. as

> > soon as i stop the meds, they get better. i guess

> at this point i need

> > to try armour, but i was trying to keep it simple.

> thanks everyone

>

>

>

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Upon a painted ocean.

Water, water, everywhere,

And all the boards did shrink;

Water, water, everywhere,

Nor any drop to drink.

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I react badly to Synthetic T4 too.... it's a cumulative thing, as it

builds in my system I start having tendon problems... some of us just

don't do well on it...

Topper ()

On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 23:52:09 -0000 " tailfetherz37 "

tailfetherz37@...> writes:

> and my t4 is so low its out of range, so i added levothyroxine, and

> at

> first i felt better, and then i began to have eye problems. i felt

> more

> depressed, but my labs were the best they've ever been. i even tried

> thyrolar, and got so tired i couldn't move. i am horrifed that i

> can't

> tolorate t4. it was obvious from my labs that i'm converting, but i

> felt so, so bad. i am still just on the comp. t3, and i am also very

> low in female hormones as i only have 1 ovary. i also tried

> compounded

> t4, and that hurt my eyes the worst. i have pain and they tear up.

> as

> soon as i stop the meds, they get better. i guess at this point i

> need

> to try armour, but i was trying to keep it simple. thanks everyone

[Guest guest]

>

> I react badly to Synthetic T4 too.... it's a cumulative thing, as it

> builds in my system I start having tendon problems... some of us

just

> don't do well on it...

>

> Topper ()

>

> On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 23:52:09 -0000 " tailfetherz37 "

> writes:

> > and my t4 is so low its out of range, so i added levothyroxine,

and

> > at

> > first i felt better, and then i began to have eye problems. i

felt

> > more

> > depressed, but my labs were the best they've ever been. i even

tried

> > thyrolar, and got so tired i couldn't move. i am horrifed that i

> > can't

> > tolorate t4. it was obvious from my labs that i'm converting, but

i

> > felt so, so bad. i am still just on the comp. t3, and i am also

very

> > low in female hormones as i only have 1 ovary. i also tried

> > compounded

> > t4, and that hurt my eyes the worst. i have pain and they tear

up.

> > as

> > soon as i stop the meds, they get better. i guess at this point i

> > need

> > to try armour, but i was trying to keep it simple. thanks everyone

>

ok so the problem i have with the synthedic t4 is, my eyes hurt from

behind, and they constantly run. they itch and its painful. but when

i stop the t4, they are fine. i also am having female hormone

situations. my fsh is really low, but my estrogen and progestrone are

in such low levels that i look like i'm menopausal. i don't know why

the fsh is not showing a higher number since i'm not producing

hormones. also my latest labs show my free t3 in a better range, but

i don't feel any better at all!! the only time i started to feel

well, is when i first started t3 last april, and my skin started

getting oils in it, the depression was better, and my 1 ovary started

producing hormones on its own, but it didn't last. my antibodies did

go down from 4600 to 1800, but now they are back to 4400. my labs

from yesterday are tsh -1.5 free t4-.62 (.61-1.76) and free t3 is

3.6 (2.3-4.2). and here's the kicker...this whole year on t3 i could

never get my free t3 levls past 2.9, and after starting the t4, they

went up!! but i don't feel any better. i don't know if this is a

pituitary thing or what, but 2 years and 3 months of feeling like a

mental freak is getting to me. i am holding on by a thread. my skin

is also still dry,not going to the bathroom good, hair still falling

out, one of my ankle joints hurt. but the mental is the worse. i just

need to get these antibodies down, but how?? thanks for helping

[Guest guest]

You're Frees are too low and your TSH is too high.. TSH needs to be

suppressed, in the below 1.0 mark, ideally near zero....

> my antibodies did go down from 4600 to 1800, but now they are back to

4400

> tsh -1.5

> free t4-.62 (.61-1.76)

> free t3 3.6 (2.3-4.2). and here's the kicker...this whole year on t3 i

could

> never get my free t3 levels past 2.9, and after starting the t4, they

> went up!!

The antibodies react to the TSH levels and gland activity, the higher the

TSH level the more stimulation to the thyroid gland tissue.

Me thinks you have to get your levels up by increasing your dose.. The

Free T4 is rock bottom, so there isn't enough there for conversion... the

T3 is about mid range, didn't do the math so I'm ball parking.... but

that likely needs to be higher for you to feel well... most folks feel

best with the Free T3 near the top end of the range...

The eye thing.... Some one had mentioned a possible sensitivity to the

fillers in the Synthroid... options there would be to try a different

brand of synthetic or to go to natural thyroid.

Can you give us a rough time line on dosages? You started out with what

pills/dose and what were your adjustments, rough time (like 2 months, 3

months, 12 months) and the amounts....

Refresh my brain.... when we were gabbing before.... you are on the timed

release capsules of T3 and didn't respond well to Armour when it was

tried? Or am I mixing you up with someone else? If I am, my apologies....

Topper ()

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:25:52 -0000 " tailfetherz37 "

tailfetherz37@...> writes:

> ok so the problem i have with the synthetic t4 is, my eyes hurt from

> behind, and they constantly run. they itch and its painful. but when

> i stop the t4, they are fine. i also am having female hormone

> situations. my fsh is really low, but my estrogen and progestrone

> are

> in such low levels that i look like i'm menopausal. i don't know why

> the fsh is not showing a higher number since i'm not producing

> hormones. also my latest labs show my free t3 in a better range, but

> i don't feel any better at all!! the only time i started to feel

> well, is when i first started t3 last april, and my skin started

> getting oils in it, the depression was better, and my 1 ovary started

> producing hormones on its own, but it didn't last. my antibodies did

> go down from 4600 to 1800, but now they are back to 4400. my labs

> from yesterday are tsh -1.5 free t4-.62 (.61-1.76) and free t3 is

> 3.6 (2.3-4.2). and here's the kicker...this whole year on t3 i could

> never get my free t3 levls past 2.9, and after starting the t4, they

> went up!! but i don't feel any better. i don't know if this is a

> pituitary thing or what, but 2 years and 3 months of feeling like a

> mental freak is getting to me. i am holding on by a thread. my skin

> is also still dry,not going to the bathroom good, hair still falling

> out, one of my ankle joints hurt. but the mental is the worse. i

> just

> need to get these antibodies down, but how?? thanks for helping