Guest guest Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 I am hypo on Armour 240 mg a day. Take Iodoral 25 mg a day, selenium - 400 mg a day and calcium( not sure how much, but 2 a day with vit. d). I know that I need to have my Free t " s but the doctor didn't do them this time. But he said my TSH was 0.01 and I had to much thyroid meds in me and to wean them down and go see a endo - he will not treat me since I self med and he can't control it. I also had a ECG done and he said I need to go to a Cardiologist - which my appt. is tomorrow. He said my heart is stopping a few seconds and it does it way to much. I thought the TSH is supposed to be low like it it...maybe I am wrong. Could someone tell me?? I feel ok, except I am having some blood pressure issues - high, have meds for this and alot of numbness in my hands. Some small chest pains also. Some of this might just be from stressing over this heart thing. Thanks, Mari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 > > I am hypo on Armour 240 mg a day. Take Iodoral 25 mg a day, selenium - > 400 mg a day and calcium( not sure how much, but 2 a day with vit. > d). > > I know that I need to have my Free t " s but the doctor didn't do them > this time. But he said my TSH was 0.01 and I had to much thyroid meds > in me and to wean them down and go see a endo - he will not treat me > since I self med and he can't control it. I also had a ECG done and > he said I need to go to a Cardiologist - which my appt. is tomorrow. > He said my heart is stopping a few seconds and it does it way to much. > > I thought the TSH is supposed to be low like it it...maybe I am > wrong. Could someone tell me?? > > I feel ok, except I am having some blood pressure issues - high, have > meds for this and alot of numbness in my hands. Some small chest > pains also. > > Some of this might just be from stressing over this heart thing. > > Thanks, > Mari > Armour does supress the TSH..unfortunately with out the Free's it is really hard to tell if your TSH is supressed because you are hyper, or if your TSH is supressed because of the Armour. Armour is a natural form of T4 and T3. You need to have the FT4 and FT3 run at a bare minimum. The heart thing definitely needs to be looked at but do realize there is a big connection between thyroid and heart..after all the heart is a muscle and uses thyroid hormone to regulate the beats, strength etc. being the most important muscle though the body has a way of slowing down other functions and directing most of the resources to keep the heart beating. As a general rule and I say general because genetics and other heart conditions means not everyone fits the pattern.. Hypo means high cholesterol, high blood pressure and low pulse. Hyper means low cholesterol, normal blood pressure and high pulse. When hypo and on proper medications and proper dosing for one's self using the blood pressure and cholesterol will lower and the pulse will rise.. When hyper and at a proper level, pulse will lower, cholesterol will rise to normal. Your heart does need to be looked at by a specialist though.. for some the damage can be done, for others they can stop and reverse the damage, and for others it is not related to thyroid.. I know my mom after RAI suddenly developed high blood pressure,high cholesterol and needed reading glasses.. 3 months after getting her thyroid levels at a good range for herself, she was taken off all the cholesterol meds, blood pressure meds and uses her glasses more as a paper wieght. Now my mom is a little different, RAI is an immediate drop to hypo..it was not a slow progression over time, and once she was at the right med level for her her body healed a lot quicker as it was not allowed to hang hypo for a long time. This said about the heart.. You say you are hypo on 240mg of Armour? What symptoms do you have? Basal temperature? What is your resting pulse? How are you splitting up your dose? How do your heart symptoms coincide during the time of day? After meds? Before meds? When are you taking the calcium? How long have you been taking Iodoral? There is a few here that do the self medications. What I would like to see though so we can help you better is a daily chart..for a day or two... Example.. 6 am..basal pulse. 7 am..list meds.. food.. symptoms.. 8 am meds.. symptoms.. Also list general symptoms that do not coincide with time..hair falling out, dry skin, acne? Tired..not sleeping, tired..but always sleeping? Kats3boys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Thanks so much Kat, I will chart as soon as I get done with this cardio dr. Thanks > > > > I am hypo on Armour 240 mg a day. Take Iodoral 25 mg a day, > selenium - > > 400 mg a day and calcium( not sure how much, but 2 a day with vit. > > d). > > > > I know that I need to have my Free t " s but the doctor didn't do > them > > this time. But he said my TSH was 0.01 and I had to much thyroid > meds > > in me and to wean them down and go see a endo - he will not treat > me > > since I self med and he can't control it. I also had a ECG done and > > he said I need to go to a Cardiologist - which my appt. is > tomorrow. > > He said my heart is stopping a few seconds and it does it way to > much. > > > > I thought the TSH is supposed to be low like it it...maybe I am > > wrong. Could someone tell me?? > > > > I feel ok, except I am having some blood pressure issues - high, > have > > meds for this and alot of numbness in my hands. Some small chest > > pains also. > > > > Some of this might just be from stressing over this heart thing. > > > > Thanks, > > Mari > > > Armour does supress the TSH..unfortunately with out the Free's it is > really hard to tell if your TSH is supressed because you are hyper, > or if your TSH is supressed because of the Armour. > > Armour is a natural form of T4 and T3. You need to have the FT4 and > FT3 run at a bare minimum. > > The heart thing definitely needs to be looked at but do realize there > is a big connection between thyroid and heart..after all the heart is > a muscle and uses thyroid hormone to regulate the beats, strength > etc. being the most important muscle though the body has a way of > slowing down other functions and directing most of the resources to > keep the heart beating. > > As a general rule and I say general because genetics and other heart > conditions means not everyone fits the pattern.. > > Hypo means high cholesterol, high blood pressure and low pulse. > Hyper means low cholesterol, normal blood pressure and high pulse. > > When hypo and on proper medications and proper dosing for one's self > using the blood pressure and cholesterol will lower and the pulse > will rise.. > > When hyper and at a proper level, pulse will lower, cholesterol will > rise to normal. > > Your heart does need to be looked at by a specialist though.. for > some the damage can be done, for others they can stop and reverse the > damage, and for others it is not related to thyroid.. > > I know my mom after RAI suddenly developed high blood pressure,high > cholesterol and needed reading glasses.. 3 months after getting her > thyroid levels at a good range for herself, she was taken off all the > cholesterol meds, blood pressure meds and uses her glasses more as a > paper wieght. Now my mom is a little different, RAI is an immediate > drop to hypo..it was not a slow progression over time, and once she > was at the right med level for her her body healed a lot quicker as > it was not allowed to hang hypo for a long time. > > This said about the heart.. > You say you are hypo on 240mg of Armour? > What symptoms do you have? > Basal temperature? > What is your resting pulse? > How are you splitting up your dose? > How do your heart symptoms coincide during the time of day? After > meds? Before meds? > When are you taking the calcium? > How long have you been taking Iodoral? > > There is a few here that do the self medications. > > What I would like to see though so we can help you better is a daily > chart..for a day or two... > > Example.. > 6 am..basal pulse. > 7 am..list meds.. > food.. > symptoms.. > 8 am meds.. > symptoms.. > > Also list general symptoms that do not coincide with time..hair > falling out, dry skin, acne? Tired..not sleeping, tired..but always > sleeping? > > Kats3boys > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Thanks Topper - I agree Poop on him!!! MariAOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 You might be stressing.. yes.... As far as the TSH low.. that is generally a good thing, especially for those with Hashi's, thyroid cancer or who have no gland.. BUT you must know what your Free Ts are to be sure that it's a suppressed TSH but that you are not actually hyper.... the goal is three-fold, low TSH, proper levels of Frees, and reduction of symptoms... Poop on the doc for not wanting to work with you... if he were to take the correct tests, determine what is going on and then go from there all would be well..but to just turn his back cuz he's not the one in total control... well.... poop from a LARGE dog. Topper () On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:09:52 -0000 " Mari " marikelly40@...> writes: > I am hypo on Armour 240 mg a day. Take Iodoral 25 mg a day, selenium > - > 400 mg a day and calcium( not sure how much, but 2 a day with vit. > > d). > > I know that I need to have my Free t " s but the doctor didn't do them > this time. But he said my TSH was 0.01 and I had to much thyroid > meds > in me and to wean them down and go see a endo - he will not treat me > since I self med and he can't control it. I also had a ECG done and > he said I need to go to a Cardiologist - which my appt. is tomorrow. > He said my heart is stopping a few seconds and it does it way to > much. > > I thought the TSH is supposed to be low like it it...maybe I am > wrong. Could someone tell me?? > > I feel ok, except I am having some blood pressure issues - high, > have > meds for this and alot of numbness in my hands. Some small chest > pains also. > > Some of this might just be from stressing over this heart thing. > > Thanks, > Mari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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