Guest guest Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 Thanks everyone for all the info - read the article about Hashimoto's and mental illness. It would kind of make sense that if your body is hypo, it would have a difficult time to obtain normal seritonin levels. That's what most of the newer anti-depressants are, SSRI's. The docs just experiment with them - " Here try this. " 6-8 weeks later if there's no improvement, they switch you to another one, and on and on it goes, where it stops, nobody knows. Thanks Maureen - yes it makes sense. People in here know how to write things in lay terms, which is helpful for me. Monday was a good day for me, but to be honest, it's been downhill from there. Totally exhausted. Came to this site 3 times today and fell asleep at the computer. Didn't make it for my labs on Friday, will try again on Mon. My next dr. appt. is April 3rd. Really feel like raising my synthroid dose before then. - Read an old post of yours about how people called you different names and labeled you. It's difficult for peolple to understand the exhaustion, unless they've been through it themselves. I remember at a different support group one night I shared with everyone how people would tell me things like " You have to push yourself. " Went on to explain that there was nothing left to push. No reserves - well is empty. On the way home, the guy that was with me said, " Tomorrow, when you get up, just try to push yourself to get up and do a good job at work. " Talking to the wind. No wonder I'm so isolated. I've been wanting to join a church group, yet I'm so sick of being judged or labeled by others, that it seems easier to deal with the pain of loneliness than the pain of rejection or being judged. This has been a very bad day. My attitude sucks. Depression is kicking my butt. Hate to write neg. posts like this, but it's honest. Want to cry, but I'm cried out. Besides thyroid, have had other personal problems. Yesterday was my birthday and none of my 3 children called, wrote or e-mailed me. Trying not to let that bother me either, but I'm not Superman. Those critical voices do a number also. Oh well, hope you don't mind me getting things off my chest. Please, I'm not looking for sympathy and believe most of you know where I'm coming from. How do these people that don't even know what's wrong with them cope? Just push through it. Why can't I? Starting something new that's driving me nuts! Grunting and groaning all the time, probably from leg and musclepains (grunts) and shortness of breath (groans). It sounds terrible to me, so I can only imagine what it sounds like to others. Well, thanks for listening. Debating with myself whether to post this. It seems to have helped me a bit by letting it out. Won't even talk to God this way, because I'm afraid He'll see it as a lack of faith - like He doesn't already know my true feelings. Duh! Thanks for listening. - starting taking temps. so far every morning my temp has been under 97. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 A day late but happy birthday... Although we all have good days and bad days, some have more bad days then others. And yes a lot if it is interwined on how well your body functions and also what it has to function with.. Not going to push you to suck it up and deal with it, but do try and do what you can to get labs done..as much as you feel like increasing your dose as a general rule, labs first and then increase, if not it is throwing darts at a dartboard blindfolded..you may get lucky, but chances are you will miss the mark and not be able to see why.. If you can labs on Monday and then just show up at the docs office on Weds.. get copies of your labs and explain you feel like crap and can not wait til April to see the doc...then just stand there at the counter until they fit you in... Kats3boys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 Jeff... don't feel bad about whinning here... we have all done, most likely the majority of us will do it again... When in doubt, look at the name of the group... The Thyroid SUPPORT Group.... HAPPY BIRTHDAY... sorry for it being late.... more sorry for your kids for being poops and not remembering! I'd like to give you a present, Jeff.... I'm giving you one hour... an entire hour, to be spent whenever you choose to do something wholly and totally for just YOU... You have my permission to block out the world and ignore them all.... If you want... you can share with us how you spent that hour, if you'd rather not, that's okay, too... it's your hour, you choose... and even if it's something normally considered 'non masculine' like a bubble bath, I, for one, promise not to laugh.... sometimes we need to do something just plain for us... with no excuses or explanations to anyone else... You need some ME time... Take it... cuz I SAID SO!!! Part of support is knowing that you have a place to just let the steam pour out... if we don't let it out every once in a while the back pressure just builds up and we can't get to where we need to be... in mind and body.... 'Push yourself' How many times have I heard that one... It makes me mad now... didn't before... I just try not to push.. but I still often push too hard sometimes... even though I know better... If you push too hard today you risk not being able to do squat for a day, or two or five or ten... it is NOT worth risking that, in my opinion.... Yeah, I know.. I did it myself over the last two weeks... I knew it while I was doing it, I knew what I might end up with as far as my productivity and crap... face it.... facing the likelihood that I'd be immobile for a few days and that is pretty much what happened... I ended up with my butt planted in this chair again and, luckily, still had brain enough to get some sit down work done.... The philosophy that I TRY to follow developed over the last few years..... *Work/function/do to COMFORTABLE limit and then dog gone it STOP. Don't over do... *Break things up into standing/walking jobs, and sitting jobs, and then switch back and forth... *Take five minutes to lay flat on your back if you have to... *Stop and BREATHE!!! Yeah, I just said that ... I noticed that I was not breathing deeply enough yesterday... so sat my butt down and did the SLOOOWWW deep full inhale and the SLLOOOOOWWW full exhale.. and got some fresh air down deep in my lungs... boy.. did I feel better... I was so physically tuckered I'd gotten back into shallow breathing... arggghhhhhh After a while you'll notice that it takes a bit longer to get to that comfortable limit.. your body is getting a wee bit stronger. If all you ever do is push.. then end up in day(S) of recovery and start over again.. you will never get any stronger... for us, as our bodies shift through all they shift through, doing everyday stuff can be like training for a marathon.... you steadily work up your endurance, you don't over do, you don't hurt yourself, cuz if you do, you break training, have to stop for recovery, and start all over again.... you lose WAY too much time.. and for us... it's generally pretty painful..... mentally as well as physically. I have to repost a little story... watch for it... I'll post it separate so that others till spot it to.... The story of the spoons.... With your temp that low.. .no wonder you feel so crummy... we need to get you feeling better... get those levels up and give your body time to right itself.... You're not alone anymore Jeff... we understand... I've got a box of manly blue Kleenex here... so no worries if you've got some leakage off the front of your face..... *passes a short stack of Kleenex over to Jeff* *wink* Topper () On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 00:34:36 -0000 " Jeff Wade " bennydabum2003@...> writes: > Thanks everyone for all the info - read the article about > Hashimoto's and mental illness. It would kind of make sense that if > your body is hypo, it would have a difficult time to obtain normal > seritonin levels. That's what most of the newer anti-depressants > are, > SSRI's. The docs just experiment with them - " Here try this. " 6-8 > weeks later if there's no improvement, they switch you to another > one, and on and on it goes, where it stops, nobody knows. > Thanks Maureen - yes it makes sense. People in here know how to > write things in lay terms, which is helpful for me. > Monday was a good day for me, but to be honest, it's been > downhill > from there. Totally exhausted. Came to this site 3 times today and > fell asleep at the computer. Didn't make it for my labs on Friday, > will try again on Mon. My next dr. appt. is April 3rd. Really feel > like raising my synthroid dose before then. - Read an old post > of yours about how people called you different names and labeled > you. > It's difficult for peolple to understand the exhaustion, unless > they've been through it themselves. I remember at a different > support > group one night I shared with everyone how people would tell me > things like " You have to push yourself. " > Went on to explain that there was nothing left to push. No > reserves - well is empty. On the way home, the guy that was with me > said, " Tomorrow, when you get up, just try to push yourself to get > up and do a good job at work. " > Talking to the wind. > No wonder I'm so isolated. I've been wanting to join a church > group, yet I'm so sick of being judged or labeled by others, that it > seems easier to deal with the pain of loneliness than the pain of > rejection or being judged. > This has been a very bad day. My attitude sucks. Depression is > kicking my butt. Hate to write neg. posts like this, but it's > honest. > Want to cry, but I'm cried out. Besides thyroid, have had other > personal problems. Yesterday was my birthday and none of my 3 > children called, wrote or e-mailed me. Trying not to let that bother > me either, but I'm not Superman. Those critical voices do a number > also. Oh well, hope you don't mind me getting things off my chest. > Please, I'm not looking for sympathy and believe most of you know > where I'm coming from. > How do these people that don't even know what's wrong with them > cope? Just push through it. Why can't I? > Starting something new that's driving me nuts! Grunting and > groaning all the time, probably from leg and musclepains (grunts) > and > shortness of breath (groans). It sounds terrible to me, so I can > only imagine what it sounds like to others. > Well, thanks for listening. Debating with myself whether to post > this. It seems to have helped me a bit by letting it out. Won't even > talk to God this way, because I'm afraid He'll see it as a lack of > faith - like He doesn't already know my true feelings. Duh! > Thanks for listening. > - starting taking temps. so far every morning my temp has > been under 97. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 - Hapyy belated birthday. hope you're on your way to a healtier, happier year ahead!! PalmaJeff Wade wrote: Thanks everyone for all the info - read the article about Hashimoto's and mental illness. It would kind of make sense that if your body is hypo, it would have a difficult time to obtain normal seritonin levels. That's what most of the newer anti-depressants are, SSRI's. The docs just experiment with them -"Here try this." 6-8 weeks later if there's no improvement, they switch you to another one, and on and on it goes, where it stops, nobody knows.Thanks Maureen - yes it makes sense. People in here know how to write things in lay terms, which is helpful for me.Monday was a good day for me, but to be honest, it's been downhill from there. Totally exhausted. Came to this site 3 times today and fell asleep at the computer. Didn't make it for my labs on Friday, will try again on Mon. My next dr. appt. is April 3rd. Really feel like raising my synthroid dose before then. - Read an old post of yours about how people called you different names and labeled you. It's difficult for peolple to understand the exhaustion, unless they've been through it themselves. I remember at a different support group one night I shared with everyone how people would tell me things like "You have to push yourself."Went on to explain that there was nothing left to push. No reserves - well is empty. On the way home, the guy that was with me said, "Tomorrow, when you get up, just try to push yourself to get up and do a good job at work."Talking to the wind.No wonder I'm so isolated. I've been wanting to join a church group, yet I'm so sick of being judged or labeled by others, that it seems easier to deal with the pain of loneliness than the pain of rejection or being judged.This has been a very bad day. My attitude sucks. Depression is kicking my butt. Hate to write neg. posts like this, but it's honest. Want to cry, but I'm cried out. Besides thyroid, have had other personal problems. Yesterday was my birthday and none of my 3 children called, wrote or e-mailed me. Trying not to let that bother me either, but I'm not Superman. Those critical voices do a number also. Oh well, hope you don't mind me getting things off my chest. Please, I'm not looking for sympathy and believe most of you know where I'm coming from.How do these people that don't even know what's wrong with them cope? Just push through it. Why can't I? Starting something new that's driving me nuts! Grunting and groaning all the time, probably from leg and musclepains (grunts) and shortness of breath (groans). It sounds terrible to me, so I can only imagine what it sounds like to others.Well, thanks for listening. Debating with myself whether to post this. It seems to have helped me a bit by letting it out. Won't even talk to God this way, because I'm afraid He'll see it as a lack of faith - like He doesn't already know my true feelings. Duh!Thanks for listening. - starting taking temps. so far every morning my temp has been under 97. Be a PS3 game guru.Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 > > A day late but happy birthday... > Although we all have good days and bad days, some have more bad days > then others. And yes a lot if it is interwined on how well your body > functions and also what it has to function with.. > Not going to push you to suck it up and deal with it, but do try and do > what you can to get labs done..as much as you feel like increasing your > dose as a general rule, labs first and then increase, if not it is > throwing darts at a dartboard blindfolded..you may get lucky, but > chances are you will miss the mark and not be able to see why.. > > If you can labs on Monday and then just show up at the docs office on > Weds.. get copies of your labs and explain you feel like crap and can > not wait til April to see the doc...then just stand there at the > counter until they fit you in... > > Kats3boys > Thanks kats - Just whati needed to hear. So tired of being in the problem and not the solution. I'm going to follow your suggestion and also ask doc not to wait every 6 weeks to raise meds by.025 - it took forever after RI kicked in. It's easy for them to make it sound like it's no big deal - they're not living. Even with my new doc - I asked her to fill out a paper to say I was temp. disabled, just in case I had to get help again. Thank God that the past few weeks I've made just enough $ to pay a few bills. She asked me why I couldn't work and I told her the truth. I have a job that I work out of home, just making phone calls and most of the time even that's too much! She told me that's because my TSH result was high (number) and that it should be better in a couple of weeks. Well, it's been almost a month now, and other than a few fair days, I still feel like crap. The pressure of just surviving right now, can sometimes feel overwhelming. They already think I'm a nut job or hypochondriac at the clinic, so really, what do I have to lose? Had to persist to be seen for initial visit. Thanks for your help. Sounds like a simple solution and was probably staring me right in the face, but I'm not thinking very clearly at the present time. Better days are down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 Jeff, Don't be so hard on yourself. A lot of us have been where you are at. I had a doctor at the very begining that told me to take things one day at a time and if that is much then an hour at a time. There was few times it was a minute at a time. It sucks when you don't feel well and the brain isn't thinking real clear and then you have people trying to tell you what to do (or pushing) I had a friend pull me aside at one point and tell me with family like mine I didn't any enemies. That was after a cousin from out of state came to visit and all she could tell me is that I looked awful (repeatly). To bad she didn't see me a few months earlier when it was all I could do to hang on. We all need to vent on occassion. I know the depression...that was me in December. I had to beg for an increase in meds. That really helped me. Hang in there it will get better when you get your levels straightened out. Sometimes we all need to hear that hope! Happy Belated Birthday! There is always next year.... Sami Usually lurking... > Want to cry, but I'm cried out. Besides thyroid, have had other > personal problems. Yesterday was my birthday and none of my 3 > children called, wrote or e-mailed me. Trying not to let that bother > me either, but I'm not Superman. Those critical voices do a number > also. Oh well, hope you don't mind me getting things off my chest. > Please, I'm not looking for sympathy and believe most of you know > where I'm coming from. > How do these people that don't even know what's wrong with them > cope? Just push through it. Why can't I? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 Jeff my heart goes out to you. I admire your honesty in saying just how it is. It sounds like a cry from a place of real poverty, not just economic poverty but of health and relationship too. The more people who tell it as it is, the more hope that the medical establishment will listen. Sorry your birthday was empty, here's wishing next year will be better. --- Jeff Wade bennydabum2003@...> wrote: > Thanks everyone for all the info - read the > article about > Hashimoto's and mental illness. It would kind of > make sense that if > your body is hypo, it would have a difficult time to > obtain normal > seritonin levels. That's what most of the newer > anti-depressants are, > SSRI's. The docs just experiment with them - " Here > try this. " 6-8 > weeks later if there's no improvement, they switch > you to another > one, and on and on it goes, where it stops, nobody > knows. > Thanks Maureen - yes it makes sense. People in > here know how to > write things in lay terms, which is helpful for me. > Monday was a good day for me, but to be honest, > it's been downhill > from there. Totally exhausted. Came to this site 3 > times today and > fell asleep at the computer. Didn't make it for my > labs on Friday, > will try again on Mon. My next dr. appt. is April > 3rd. Really feel > like raising my synthroid dose before then. - > Read an old post > of yours about how people called you different names > and labeled you. > It's difficult for peolple to understand the > exhaustion, unless > they've been through it themselves. I remember at a > different support > group one night I shared with everyone how people > would tell me > things like " You have to push yourself. " > Went on to explain that there was nothing left to > push. No > reserves - well is empty. On the way home, the guy > that was with me > said, " Tomorrow, when you get up, just try to push > yourself to get up > and do a good job at work. " > Talking to the wind. > No wonder I'm so isolated. I've been wanting to > join a church > group, yet I'm so sick of being judged or labeled by > others, that it > seems easier to deal with the pain of loneliness > than the pain of > rejection or being judged. > This has been a very bad day. My attitude sucks. > Depression is > kicking my butt. Hate to write neg. posts like this, > but it's honest. > Want to cry, but I'm cried out. Besides thyroid, > have had other > personal problems. Yesterday was my birthday and > none of my 3 > children called, wrote or e-mailed me. Trying not to > let that bother > me either, but I'm not Superman. Those critical > voices do a number > also. Oh well, hope you don't mind me getting things > off my chest. > Please, I'm not looking for sympathy and believe > most of you know > where I'm coming from. > How do these people that don't even know what's > wrong with them > cope? Just push through it. Why can't I? > Starting something new that's driving me nuts! > Grunting and > groaning all the time, probably from leg and > musclepains (grunts) and > shortness of breath (groans). It sounds terrible to > me, so I can only > imagine what it sounds like to others. > Well, thanks for listening. Debating with myself > whether to post > this. It seems to have helped me a bit by letting it > out. Won't even > talk to God this way, because I'm afraid He'll see > it as a lack of > faith - like He doesn't already know my true > feelings. Duh! > Thanks for listening. > - starting taking temps. so far every > morning my temp has > been under 97. > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 Ooops... Jeff was the birthday boy, mine is in July!!!! But now I get to say another happy birthday to Jeff, even if it is late!!! Happy Birthday Jeff!!! Topper () On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:44:37 -0700 (PDT) palma joshi writes: - Hapyy belated birthday. hope you're on your way to a healtier, happier year ahead!! Palma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 hi jeff, happy birthday and hope your kids will remember even if late. sorry that you weren't feeling the best for it as well, had that myself. 10 days before mine slipped in bathtub getting in for a shower broke right arm and was on heavy pain meds so couldn't even have a nice glass of wine. as for letting it all out that is what we are here for and each of us has done it at some point and will do again when we need to let it out. better out than in. and do the same with god, he knows you better than you know yourself and there is nothing you can say to him that will shock him, he loves you, and he wants you to be honest with him. i know when i fell being alone in the house and prone in the tub barely able to move and feeling like passing out i started yelling at myself and god that there was no way that i was going to die there in that state and that i needed his help to get out. then came thoughts on how to get out and knowing i was going to make it, and i did take about 20 mins but with his help i made it. then was able to phone for help. so never be afraid of telling him how you feel and what you want him to do for you. it will get better believe me it has taken me awhile but when i first came i was a mess but now am almost at my sweet spot with my meds and feel the best that i have felt in many many years. just keep talking to us about it all and someone will have the answer. have a good one dawn cdn > > Thanks everyone for all the info - read the article about > Hashimoto's and mental illness. It would kind of make sense that if > your body is hypo, it would have a difficult time to obtain normal > seritonin levels. That's what most of the newer anti-depressants are, > SSRI's. The docs just experiment with them - " Here try this. " 6-8 > weeks later if there's no improvement, they switch you to another > one, and on and on it goes, where it stops, nobody knows. > Thanks Maureen - yes it makes sense. People in here know how to > write things in lay terms, which is helpful for me. > Monday was a good day for me, but to be honest, it's been downhill > from there. Totally exhausted. Came to this site 3 times today and > fell asleep at the computer. Didn't make it for my labs on Friday, > will try again on Mon. My next dr. appt. is April 3rd. Really feel > like raising my synthroid dose before then. - Read an old post > of yours about how people called you different names and labeled you. > It's difficult for peolple to understand the exhaustion, unless > they've been through it themselves. I remember at a different support > group one night I shared with everyone how people would tell me > things like " You have to push yourself. " > Went on to explain that there was nothing left to push. No > reserves - well is empty. On the way home, the guy that was with me > said, " Tomorrow, when you get up, just try to push yourself to get up > and do a good job at work. " > Talking to the wind. > No wonder I'm so isolated. I've been wanting to join a church > group, yet I'm so sick of being judged or labeled by others, that it > seems easier to deal with the pain of loneliness than the pain of > rejection or being judged. > This has been a very bad day. My attitude sucks. Depression is > kicking my butt. Hate to write neg. posts like this, but it's honest. > Want to cry, but I'm cried out. Besides thyroid, have had other > personal problems. Yesterday was my birthday and none of my 3 > children called, wrote or e-mailed me. Trying not to let that bother > me either, but I'm not Superman. Those critical voices do a number > also. Oh well, hope you don't mind me getting things off my chest. > Please, I'm not looking for sympathy and believe most of you know > where I'm coming from. > How do these people that don't even know what's wrong with them > cope? Just push through it. Why can't I? > Starting something new that's driving me nuts! Grunting and > groaning all the time, probably from leg and musclepains (grunts) and > shortness of breath (groans). It sounds terrible to me, so I can only > imagine what it sounds like to others. > Well, thanks for listening. Debating with myself whether to post > this. It seems to have helped me a bit by letting it out. Won't even > talk to God this way, because I'm afraid He'll see it as a lack of > faith - like He doesn't already know my true feelings. Duh! > Thanks for listening. > - starting taking temps. so far every morning my temp has > been under 97. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 > > > > A day late but happy birthday... > > Although we all have good days and bad days, some have more bad > days > > then others. And yes a lot if it is interwined on how well your > body > > functions and also what it has to function with.. > > Not going to push you to suck it up and deal with it, but do try > and do > > what you can to get labs done..as much as you feel like increasing > your > > dose as a general rule, labs first and then increase, if not it is > > throwing darts at a dartboard blindfolded..you may get lucky, but > > chances are you will miss the mark and not be able to see why.. > > > > If you can labs on Monday and then just show up at the docs office > on > > Weds.. get copies of your labs and explain you feel like crap and > can > > not wait til April to see the doc...then just stand there at the > > counter until they fit you in... > > > > Kats3boys > > Thanks kats - Just whati needed to hear. So tired of being in the > problem and not the solution. I'm going to follow your suggestion and > also ask doc not to wait every 6 weeks to raise meds by.025 - it took > forever after RI kicked in. It's easy for them to make it sound like > it's no big deal - they're not living. Even with my new doc - I asked > her to fill out a paper to say I was temp. disabled, just in case I > had to get help again. Thank God that the past few weeks I've made > just enough $ to pay a few bills. She asked me why I couldn't work > and I told her the truth. I have a job that I work out of home, just > making phone calls and most of the time even that's too much! She > told me that's because my TSH result was high (number) and that it > should be better in a couple of weeks. Well, it's been almost a month > now, and other than a few fair days, I still feel like crap. The > pressure of just surviving right now, can sometimes feel > overwhelming. They already think I'm a nut job or hypochondriac at > the clinic, so really, what do I have to lose? Had to persist to be > seen for initial visit. > Thanks for your help. Sounds like a simple solution and was > probably staring me right in the face, but I'm not thinking very > clearly at the present time. Better days are down the road. > It is 6 weeks between labs and between adjustments, I think the problem here though is you need more than a 25mcg increase.. the 25mcg increase is good when you are fine tuning and almost there..does nothing when you are aleady dragging. Kats3boys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 > > > > > > A day late but happy birthday... > > > Although we all have good days and bad days, some have more bad > > days > > > then others. And yes a lot if it is interwined on how well your > > body > > > functions and also what it has to function with.. > > > Not going to push you to suck it up and deal with it, but do try > > and do > > > what you can to get labs done..as much as you feel like > increasing > > your > > > dose as a general rule, labs first and then increase, if not it > is > > > throwing darts at a dartboard blindfolded..you may get lucky, but > > > chances are you will miss the mark and not be able to see why.. > > > > > > If you can labs on Monday and then just show up at the docs > office > > on > > > Weds.. get copies of your labs and explain you feel like crap and > > can > > > not wait til April to see the doc...then just stand there at the > > > counter until they fit you in... > > > > > > Kats3boys > > > Thanks kats - Just whati needed to hear. So tired of being in the > > problem and not the solution. I'm going to follow your suggestion > and > > also ask doc not to wait every 6 weeks to raise meds by.025 - it > took > > forever after RI kicked in. It's easy for them to make it sound > like > > it's no big deal - they're not living. Even with my new doc - I > asked > > her to fill out a paper to say I was temp. disabled, just in case I > > had to get help again. Thank God that the past few weeks I've made > > just enough $ to pay a few bills. She asked me why I couldn't work > > and I told her the truth. I have a job that I work out of home, > just > > making phone calls and most of the time even that's too much! She > > told me that's because my TSH result was high (number) and that it > > should be better in a couple of weeks. Well, it's been almost a > month > > now, and other than a few fair days, I still feel like crap. The > > pressure of just surviving right now, can sometimes feel > > overwhelming. They already think I'm a nut job or hypochondriac at > > the clinic, so really, what do I have to lose? Had to persist to be > > seen for initial visit. > > Thanks for your help. Sounds like a simple solution and was > > probably staring me right in the face, but I'm not thinking very > > clearly at the present time. Better days are down the road. > > > It is 6 weeks between labs and between adjustments, I think the > problem here though is you need more than a 25mcg increase.. the > 25mcg increase is good when you are fine tuning and almost > there..does nothing when you are aleady dragging. > > Kats3boys > I agree - Will never forget my first dr. and how long it took to finally get to .175mcg. Not going through that again, I refuse to. Feeling better this morning (emotionally). Feeling embarrassed for being so negative yesterday. Felt like I hit rock bottom. Guess when the good days come, cherish them and look forward to future good days. Do you ever get back to normal with this? One of my priorities is to lose about 60- 80 pounds, but it seems next to impossible when feeling like this. This leg pain is starting to wear me down also, no relief. Will try some ice today. The muscles in my thighs and calf are tight as a drum, even while lying down. Well, I have to try to put some time in with work today. Thank you for advice and for listening. Have a good day. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 > > > > Thanks everyone for all the info - read the article about > > Hashimoto's and mental illness. It would kind of make sense that if > > your body is hypo, it would have a difficult time to obtain normal > > seritonin levels. That's what most of the newer anti-depressants > are, > > SSRI's. The docs just experiment with them - " Here try this. " 6-8 > > weeks later if there's no improvement, they switch you to another > > one, and on and on it goes, where it stops, nobody knows. > > Thanks Maureen - yes it makes sense. People in here know how to > > write things in lay terms, which is helpful for me. > > Monday was a good day for me, but to be honest, it's been > downhill > > from there. Totally exhausted. Came to this site 3 times today and > > fell asleep at the computer. Didn't make it for my labs on Friday, > > will try again on Mon. My next dr. appt. is April 3rd. Really feel > > like raising my synthroid dose before then. - Read an old > post > > of yours about how people called you different names and labeled > you. > > It's difficult for peolple to understand the exhaustion, unless > > they've been through it themselves. I remember at a different > support > > group one night I shared with everyone how people would tell me > > things like " You have to push yourself. " > > Went on to explain that there was nothing left to push. No > > reserves - well is empty. On the way home, the guy that was with me > > said, " Tomorrow, when you get up, just try to push yourself to get > up > > and do a good job at work. " > > Talking to the wind. > > No wonder I'm so isolated. I've been wanting to join a church > > group, yet I'm so sick of being judged or labeled by others, that > it > > seems easier to deal with the pain of loneliness than the pain of > > rejection or being judged. > > This has been a very bad day. My attitude sucks. Depression is > > kicking my butt. Hate to write neg. posts like this, but it's > honest. > > Want to cry, but I'm cried out. Besides thyroid, have had other > > personal problems. Yesterday was my birthday and none of my 3 > > children called, wrote or e-mailed me. Trying not to let that > bother > > me either, but I'm not Superman. Those critical voices do a number > > also. Oh well, hope you don't mind me getting things off my chest. > > Please, I'm not looking for sympathy and believe most of you know > > where I'm coming from. > > How do these people that don't even know what's wrong with them > > cope? Just push through it. Why can't I? > > Starting something new that's driving me nuts! Grunting and > > groaning all the time, probably from leg and musclepains (grunts) > and > > shortness of breath (groans). It sounds terrible to me, so I can > only > > imagine what it sounds like to others. > > Well, thanks for listening. Debating with myself whether to post > > this. It seems to have helped me a bit by letting it out. Won't > even > > talk to God this way, because I'm afraid He'll see it as a lack of > > faith - like He doesn't already know my true feelings. Duh! > > Thanks for listening. > > - starting taking temps. so far every morning my temp has > > been under 97. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 > > > Thanks everyone for all the info - read the > > article about > > Hashimoto's and mental illness. It would kind of > > make sense that if > > your body is hypo, it would have a difficult time to > > obtain normal > > seritonin levels. That's what most of the newer > > anti-depressants are, > > SSRI's. The docs just experiment with them - " Here > > try this. " 6-8 > > weeks later if there's no improvement, they switch > > you to another > > one, and on and on it goes, where it stops, nobody > > knows. > > Thanks Maureen - yes it makes sense. People in > > here know how to > > write things in lay terms, which is helpful for me. > > Monday was a good day for me, but to be honest, > > it's been downhill > > from there. Totally exhausted. Came to this site 3 > > times today and > > fell asleep at the computer. Didn't make it for my > > labs on Friday, > > will try again on Mon. My next dr. appt. is April > > 3rd. Really feel > > like raising my synthroid dose before then. - > > Read an old post > > of yours about how people called you different names > > and labeled you. > > It's difficult for peolple to understand the > > exhaustion, unless > > they've been through it themselves. I remember at a > > different support > > group one night I shared with everyone how people > > would tell me > > things like " You have to push yourself. " > > Went on to explain that there was nothing left to > > push. No > > reserves - well is empty. On the way home, the guy > > that was with me > > said, " Tomorrow, when you get up, just try to push > > yourself to get up > > and do a good job at work. " > > Talking to the wind. > > No wonder I'm so isolated. I've been wanting to > > join a church > > group, yet I'm so sick of being judged or labeled by > > others, that it > > seems easier to deal with the pain of loneliness > > than the pain of > > rejection or being judged. > > This has been a very bad day. My attitude sucks. > > Depression is > > kicking my butt. Hate to write neg. posts like this, > > but it's honest. > > Want to cry, but I'm cried out. Besides thyroid, > > have had other > > personal problems. Yesterday was my birthday and > > none of my 3 > > children called, wrote or e-mailed me. Trying not to > > let that bother > > me either, but I'm not Superman. Those critical > > voices do a number > > also. Oh well, hope you don't mind me getting things > > off my chest. > > Please, I'm not looking for sympathy and believe > > most of you know > > where I'm coming from. > > How do these people that don't even know what's > > wrong with them > > cope? Just push through it. Why can't I? > > Starting something new that's driving me nuts! > > Grunting and > > groaning all the time, probably from leg and > > musclepains (grunts) and > > shortness of breath (groans). It sounds terrible to > > me, so I can only > > imagine what it sounds like to others. > > Well, thanks for listening. Debating with myself > > whether to post > > this. It seems to have helped me a bit by letting it > > out. Won't even > > talk to God this way, because I'm afraid He'll see > > it as a lack of > > faith - like He doesn't already know my true > > feelings. Duh! > > Thanks for listening. > > - starting taking temps. so far every > > morning my temp has > > been under 97. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Be a PS3 game guru. > Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. > http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 > > Ooops... Jeff was the birthday boy, mine is in July!!!! But now I get to > say another happy birthday to Jeff, even if it is late!!! > > Happy Birthday Jeff!!! > > Topper () > > > On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:44:37 -0700 (PDT) palma joshi > writes: > - > > Hapyy belated birthday. hope you're on your way to a healtier, happier > year ahead!! > > Palma > Thank you everyone, especially for listening to my babbling. Apparently it helped getting it out. My birthday really isn't a big deal. My father died on my birthday about 10 years ago. " Happy birthday, son. " " Yeah, thanks bunches Pop. " lol Ther first few years after he died, my birthday really sucked, but I know he's in a better place and it has become much easier to deal with. You guys are special to me and I really appreciate your help and support. Hope you all have a wonderful day. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 Jeff, What dosage are you on now? How long have you been on it? Synthroid should be about 1 mcg per lb. of body weight. Just to let you know, I reacted negatively to synthroid when I started. I had NEVER been so cold as I was after starting it. I developed a whole host of problems that I had not had prior to starting it and became quite sick. When I went to my last visit with my endo and he told me that I was " normal " I knew I needed help. Through a number of sources I found a doctor who put me on natural thyroid. Within less than a week I started feeling as though I was myself again and I never looked back. That was over 20 years ago. I feel well, energetic, no aches and pains, and am clear headed. I take 3.5 of the 30 mg pills a day. Autoimmune disease runs in my family and my mother had rheumatoid arthritis. My thyroid problem was from Hashis but I believe it has run its course. Karin > > > > Ooops... Jeff was the birthday boy, mine is in July!!!! But now I > get to > > say another happy birthday to Jeff, even if it is late!!! > > > > Happy Birthday Jeff!!! > > > > Topper () > > > > > > On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:44:37 -0700 (PDT) palma joshi > > writes: > > - > > > > Hapyy belated birthday. hope you're on your way to a healtier, > happier > > year ahead!! > > > > Palma > > > Thank you everyone, especially for listening to my babbling. > Apparently it helped getting it out. My birthday really isn't a big > deal. My father died on my birthday about 10 years ago. " Happy > birthday, son. " " Yeah, thanks bunches Pop. " lol Ther first few years > after he died, my birthday really sucked, but I know he's in a better > place and it has become much easier to deal with. You guys are > special to me and I really appreciate your help and support. Hope you > all have a wonderful day. Jeff > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 there was a birthday here an i missed it???... oh no!!! happy birthday! Re: Patience >> A day late but happy birthday...> Although we all have good days and bad days, some have more bad days > then others. And yes a lot if it is interwined on how well your body > functions and also what it has to function with..> Not going to push you to suck it up and deal with it, but do try and do > what you can to get labs done..as much as you feel like increasing your > dose as a general rule, labs first and then increase, if not it is > throwing darts at a dartboard blindfolded..you may get lucky, but > chances are you will miss the mark and not be able to see why..> > If you can labs on Monday and then just show up at the docs office on > Weds.. get copies of your labs and explain you feel like crap and can > not wait til April to see the doc...then just stand there at the > counter until they fit you in...> > Kats3boys> Thanks kats - Just whati needed to hear. So tired of being in the problem and not the solution. I'm going to follow your suggestion and also ask doc not to wait every 6 weeks to raise meds by.025 - it took forever after RI kicked in. It's easy for them to make it sound like it's no big deal - they're not living. Even with my new doc - I asked her to fill out a paper to say I was temp. disabled, just in case I had to get help again. Thank God that the past few weeks I've made just enough $ to pay a few bills. She asked me why I couldn't work and I told her the truth. I have a job that I work out of home, just making phone calls and most of the time even that's too much! She told me that's because my TSH result was high (number) and that it should be better in a couple of weeks. Well, it's been almost a month now, and other than a few fair days, I still feel like crap. The pressure of just surviving right now, can sometimes feel overwhelming. They already think I'm a nut job or hypochondriac at the clinic, so really, what do I have to lose? Had to persist to be seen for initial visit.Thanks for your help. Sounds like a simple solution and was probably staring me right in the face, but I'm not thinking very clearly at the present time. Better days are down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 > > Jeff... don't feel bad about whinning here... we have all done, most > likely the majority of us will do it again... When in doubt, look at the > name of the group... The Thyroid SUPPORT Group.... > > HAPPY BIRTHDAY... sorry for it being late.... more sorry for your kids > for being poops and not remembering! > > I'd like to give you a present, Jeff.... I'm giving you one hour... an > entire hour, to be spent whenever you choose to do something wholly and > totally for just YOU... You have my permission to block out the world > and ignore them all.... If you want... you can share with us how you > spent that hour, if you'd rather not, that's okay, too... it's your > hour, you choose... and even if it's something normally considered 'non > masculine' like a bubble bath, I, for one, promise not to laugh.... > sometimes we need to do something just plain for us... with no excuses or > explanations to anyone else... You need some ME time... Take it... cuz I > SAID SO!!! > > Part of support is knowing that you have a place to just let the steam > pour out... if we don't let it out every once in a while the back > pressure just builds up and we can't get to where we need to be... in > mind and body.... > > 'Push yourself' How many times have I heard that one... It makes me mad > now... didn't before... I just try not to push.. but I still often push > too hard sometimes... even though I know better... > > If you push too hard today you risk not being able to do squat for a day, > or two or five or ten... it is NOT worth risking that, in my opinion.... > Yeah, I know.. I did it myself over the last two weeks... I knew it while > I was doing it, I knew what I might end up with as far as my productivity > and crap... face it.... facing the likelihood that I'd be immobile for a > few days and that is pretty much what happened... I ended up with my butt > planted in this chair again and, luckily, still had brain enough to get > some sit down work done.... > > The philosophy that I TRY to follow developed over the last few > years..... > *Work/function/do to COMFORTABLE limit and then dog gone it STOP. Don't > over do... > *Break things up into standing/walking jobs, and sitting jobs, and then > switch back and forth... > *Take five minutes to lay flat on your back if you have to... > *Stop and BREATHE!!! Yeah, I just said that ... I noticed that I was not > breathing deeply enough yesterday... so sat my butt down and did the > SLOOOWWW deep full inhale and the SLLOOOOOWWW full exhale.. and got some > fresh air down deep in my lungs... boy.. did I feel better... I was so > physically tuckered I'd gotten back into shallow breathing... > arggghhhhhh > > After a while you'll notice that it takes a bit longer to get to that > comfortable limit.. your body is getting a wee bit stronger. > > If all you ever do is push.. then end up in day(S) of recovery and start > over again.. you will never get any stronger... for us, as our bodies > shift through all they shift through, doing everyday stuff can be like > training for a marathon.... you steadily work up your endurance, you > don't over do, you don't hurt yourself, cuz if you do, you break > training, have to stop for recovery, and start all over again.... you > lose WAY too much time.. and for us... it's generally pretty painful..... > mentally as well as physically. > > I have to repost a little story... watch for it... I'll post it separate > so that others till spot it to.... > > The story of the spoons.... > > With your temp that low.. .no wonder you feel so crummy... we need to get > you feeling better... get those levels up and give your body time to > right itself.... You're not alone anymore Jeff... we understand... > > I've got a box of manly blue Kleenex here... so no worries if you've got > some leakage off the front of your face..... > > *passes a short stack of Kleenex over to Jeff* > > *wink* > > Topper () > > On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 00:34:36 -0000 " Jeff Wade " > writes: > > Thanks everyone for all the info - read the article about > > Hashimoto's and mental illness. It would kind of make sense that if > > your body is hypo, it would have a difficult time to obtain normal > > seritonin levels. That's what most of the newer anti-depressants > > are, > > SSRI's. The docs just experiment with them - " Here try this. " 6-8 > > weeks later if there's no improvement, they switch you to another > > one, and on and on it goes, where it stops, nobody knows. > > Thanks Maureen - yes it makes sense. People in here know how to > > write things in lay terms, which is helpful for me. > > Monday was a good day for me, but to be honest, it's been > > downhill > > from there. Totally exhausted. Came to this site 3 times today and > > fell asleep at the computer. Didn't make it for my labs on Friday, > > will try again on Mon. My next dr. appt. is April 3rd. Really feel > > like raising my synthroid dose before then. - Read an old post > > of yours about how people called you different names and labeled > > you. > > It's difficult for peolple to understand the exhaustion, unless > > they've been through it themselves. I remember at a different > > support > > group one night I shared with everyone how people would tell me > > things like " You have to push yourself. " > > Went on to explain that there was nothing left to push. No > > reserves - well is empty. On the way home, the guy that was with me > > said, " Tomorrow, when you get up, just try to push yourself to get > > up and do a good job at work. " > > Talking to the wind. > > No wonder I'm so isolated. I've been wanting to join a church > > group, yet I'm so sick of being judged or labeled by others, that it > > seems easier to deal with the pain of loneliness than the pain of > > rejection or being judged. > > This has been a very bad day. My attitude sucks. Depression is > > kicking my butt. Hate to write neg. posts like this, but it's > > honest. > > Want to cry, but I'm cried out. Besides thyroid, have had other > > personal problems. Yesterday was my birthday and none of my 3 > > children called, wrote or e-mailed me. Trying not to let that bother > > me either, but I'm not Superman. Those critical voices do a number > > also. Oh well, hope you don't mind me getting things off my chest. > > Please, I'm not looking for sympathy and believe most of you know > > where I'm coming from. > > How do these people that don't even know what's wrong with them > > cope? Just push through it. Why can't I? > > Starting something new that's driving me nuts! Grunting and > > groaning all the time, probably from leg and musclepains (grunts) > > and > > shortness of breath (groans). It sounds terrible to me, so I can > > only imagine what it sounds like to others. > > Well, thanks for listening. Debating with myself whether to post > > this. It seems to have helped me a bit by letting it out. Won't even > > talk to God this way, because I'm afraid He'll see it as a lack of > > faith - like He doesn't already know my true feelings. Duh! > > Thanks for listening. > > > Thanks I'll be looking for the " spoons. " Went to lab yesterday, just has TSH done, wasn't up for fasting labs in the morning. Wakeup temps still under 97, does that mean hypo? Supposed to be working now, will get back later. If I am still hypo, wouldn't that affect other lab results? This is how " whacked out " I'm getting. On the way to the lab, I kept thinking, " What if I'm not hypo? " Then that would mean what? It's the depression AGAIN? Something else? It's time to go back to Basics. One day at a time. Worrying about things that never usally happen - duh STOP IT!!! Will take that hour for myself, by the way. The first thought that popped in my head - sleep. Need to get rid of that little voice that's always so cynical and negative. Wonder who that voice could be? " Could it be Satan? " Church Lady Have to go - thank you Jeff Passes Kleenex back to and sticks his chest out - " I won't be needing these. " lol wink, snicker, SMILE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Let us know the lab results, okay?? Under 97 is pretty low for a waking temp.... I've venture to say still hypo... I can't think of reading anything, ever, that said being low on thyroid hormones would skew lab results.. but being hypo (low thyroid hormones) can cause levels of other things to be higher, or lower, than 'normal' cuz of the body not working right when hypo... so they give further evidence that things are 'off'. Now.. you do know that a truly 'he-manly' man is one that is able to cry when the time comes.... As far as I'm concerned it's a wimp guy that never cries, cuz he's more concerned with his 'persona' than he is about being human... To me, human, with the emotions intact, makes for the better human, male or female... adult or child... .... Hey.. do something more FUN with your birthday hour than just sleep...... hehehe Topper () On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 18:56:44 -0000 " Jeff Wade " bennydabum2003@...> writes: > Thanks I'll be looking for the " spoons. " Went to lab > yesterday, just has TSH done, wasn't up for fasting labs in the > morning. Wakeup temps still under 97, does that mean hypo? Supposed > to be working now, will get back later. If I am still hypo, wouldn't > that affect other lab results? This is how " whacked out " I'm > getting. > On the way to the lab, I kept thinking, " What if I'm not hypo? " > Then that would mean what? It's the depression AGAIN? Something > else? > It's time to go back to Basics. One day at a time. Worrying about > things that never usally happen - duh STOP IT!!! > Will take that hour for myself, by the way. The first thought > that > popped in my head - sleep. Need to get rid of that little voice > that's always so cynical and negative. Wonder who that voice could > be? " Could it be Satan? " Church Lady > Have to go - thank you Jeff Passes Kleenex back to and > sticks his chest out - " I won't be needing these. " lol wink, > snicker, > SMILE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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