Labs - Diabetes

[Guest guest]

Thanks Kats -Will do. It's time for me to get a handle on my

health. Sure hope I don't have diabetes. It would make things more

difficullt for me to figure out. Last night - had the sweats all

night - heater was turned off. Will go for labs on Friday A.M. Is it

OK to take meds in morning? - labs are 12 hour fast.

Sunday and Monday were good days for me, leg pain was tolerable

and had a bit of energy. Yesterday ugh and today's not so hot. I try

not to get my hopes up too high on good days, knowing there may be

some not so good ahead. This really does a number on the emotions. Is

it possible that my thyroid was abnormal for many years and went

undiagnosed? My heart rate was always over 100/min. and always used

to sweat profusely. Depression has always been a major issue, since

age 19 (53y/o now)one doc thought I was definitely bipolar. Perhaps

I'm looking for an excuse for the depression. In today's society,

it's easier to say you have physical problem, rather than mental.

They are all interwoven, mental, physical, spiritual and emotional.

Hope this doesn't sound down. The good news is that I'm no

longer " shadow boxing " with my symptoms. Half the battle is knowing

what's wrong. This sure has helped tremendously, knowing I'm not all

alone with this crap anymore. Thanks again everyone.

One more question - please bear with me. I've had these small

bumps on my head for past 3 years. They come and go, but sometimes

they itch like crazy and then they're like small lesions. I had one

doctor that told me he thought it may be mainge, because I did some

volunteer work at an animal shelter. Should have mainged him right in

the kisser! It's not that big a deal, just annoying. Is diabetes a

side effect of thyroid or vice-versa?

Have to buy a thermometer today. This is how whacko things are -

wrote a list of things to get from the store. Got to store and went

to take out list - no list. I forgot the list! Now I'll have to write

a reminder to take the reminder with me.lol

" You talking to me? You talking to me? There's nobody else here, so

you must be talking to me. Your talking to me. " Taxi Driver

Hope everyone has a great day- Hey , how's your new job

going?

[Guest guest]

If you are doing labs first thing in the morning then it is best to

delay your meds until after labs are done.

With Synthroid being a synthetic, it takes roughly 4 hours for it to

travel through the stomach, through the blood strem and be uptaken by

the cells..If you take meds and then lab the blood work for T4 will

show this and is unable to tell between the two..

You never want to skip your meds, btu you can safely delay them..if

you do labs in the afternoon then take your meds on time and then

wait 4 hours before labs..hope this makes sense.

I saw your list of labwork and did not see a FT4 or Ft3 listed on

it.. can you get the doc to add these to the labwork?

As for which came first thyroid/diabetes..they are both autoimmune

disorders, once your body is susectable for one, it because

suspectable to others..of course by doing all you can and getting

proper treatment you lower the antibodies which limits the condition.

And yes, most people are hypo and go undiagnosed for years, same for

diabetes..they are slow moving diseases and effect most parts of the

body that a lo tof docs and people for that matter just brush it off

as being the signs of aging until they hit bottom and have obvious

symptoms.

Kats3boys

[Guest guest]

Jeff

Go to this web address and scroll down to the publication with the same

title, something called The Psychiatric Manifestations of Hashimoto's

Thyroiditis. So called " bipolar " was my FIRST presentation of Hashimoto's

Disease way back when. I have often said on these thyroid sites that " I

look back and say WHO was that person?!! " , as when my thyroid completely

failed, all of that ended. Others will tell you that their experience of

anxiety and such was AFTER the thyroid completely failed, so all of our

experiences are very different, due to different body chemistries and

individuality. Of course, weight loss, extreme, was one of the initial

presentations, but I will never know whether or not I have both Hashi's AND

Graves, as I haven't had the Graves antibodies testing, but Hashi's is

common to have this beginning presentation, when the gland is running in

extreme overtime, along with very high cortisol, at least until they both

teeter out and get extremely tired and both of them fail. Believe me, this

is very interesting reading. I started with extreme panic attacks, strange

manic or hypomanic behavior, weight loss, but also depression that is the

way down form of melancholia, where I literally couldn't get out of bed, and

everything in life looked extremely bleak. This behavior went on for several

yrs, not months. I didn't know what was happening to me, so it made the

panic attacks and phobias and such much worse, with the lack of knowledge I

had at that time. This is when I started studying psychiatry, thyroid

disease, and everything that looked like " me " . It was still around 7 more

yrs before I was to be diagnosed with a crashed thyroid, but around 15 more

yrs before I would run the antibodies tests for Hashi's MYSELF, after I got

into these blessed thyroid groups. When I read this publication, it was as

though so many things came together. No, I'm not completely well, still

have a long way to go, but I understand, now, what all went on there,

combined with many other physical and emotional and spiritual changes, as

well. Here it is.

www.drrichardhall.com/publications.htm

I am not a licensed professional, not directly in these fields, at least. I

work with the elderly and mentally disturbed people and am a CNA only. Not

all people in a nursing home are ONLY elderly (some are younger people).

Even many elderly are known in their histories to have had emotional

disturbances ALL their lives, but HAS it been all emotional, and what

exactly IS emotional? More and more, all these things are found to be

highly connected to the way the brain and body coordinate to " resolve "

terrible situations, plus heredity has something to do with it also, with

almost all these things, i.e., the way a person's body responds to all these

stressors, both physical AND emotional.

Labs - Diabetes

> Thanks Kats -Will do. It's time for me to get a handle on my

> health. Sure hope I don't have diabetes. It would make things more

> difficullt for me to figure out. Last night - had the sweats all

> night - heater was turned off. Will go for labs on Friday A.M. Is it

> OK to take meds in morning? - labs are 12 hour fast.

> Sunday and Monday were good days for me, leg pain was tolerable

> and had a bit of energy. Yesterday ugh and today's not so hot. I try

> not to get my hopes up too high on good days, knowing there may be

> some not so good ahead. This really does a number on the emotions. Is

> it possible that my thyroid was abnormal for many years and went

> undiagnosed? My heart rate was always over 100/min. and always used

> to sweat profusely. Depression has always been a major issue, since

> age 19 (53y/o now)one doc thought I was definitely bipolar. Perhaps

> I'm looking for an excuse for the depression. In today's society,

> it's easier to say you have physical problem, rather than mental.

> They are all interwoven, mental, physical, spiritual and emotional.

> Hope this doesn't sound down. The good news is that I'm no

> longer " shadow boxing " with my symptoms. Half the battle is knowing

> what's wrong. This sure has helped tremendously, knowing I'm not all

> alone with this crap anymore. Thanks again everyone.

> One more question - please bear with me. I've had these small

> bumps on my head for past 3 years. They come and go, but sometimes

> they itch like crazy and then they're like small lesions. I had one

> doctor that told me he thought it may be mainge, because I did some

> volunteer work at an animal shelter. Should have mainged him right in

> the kisser! It's not that big a deal, just annoying. Is diabetes a

> side effect of thyroid or vice-versa?

> Have to buy a thermometer today. This is how whacko things are -

> wrote a list of things to get from the store. Got to store and went

> to take out list - no list. I forgot the list! Now I'll have to write

> a reminder to take the reminder with me.lol

> " You talking to me? You talking to me? There's nobody else here, so

> you must be talking to me. Your talking to me. " Taxi Driver

> Hope everyone has a great day- Hey , how's your new job

> going?

[Guest guest]

>

> Jeff

>

> Go to this web address and scroll down to the publication with the

same

> title, something called The Psychiatric Manifestations of

Hashimoto's

> Thyroiditis. So called " bipolar " was my FIRST presentation of

Hashimoto's

> Disease way back when. I have often said on these thyroid sites

that " I

> look back and say WHO was that person?!! " , as when my thyroid

completely

> failed, all of that ended. Others will tell you that their

experience of

> anxiety and such was AFTER the thyroid completely failed, so all of

our

> experiences are very different, due to different body chemistries

and

> individuality. Of course, weight loss, extreme, was one of the

initial

> presentations, but I will never know whether or not I have both

Hashi's AND

> Graves, as I haven't had the Graves antibodies testing, but Hashi's

is

> common to have this beginning presentation, when the gland is

running in

> extreme overtime, along with very high cortisol, at least until

they both

> teeter out and get extremely tired and both of them fail. Believe

me, this

> is very interesting reading. I started with extreme panic attacks,

strange

> manic or hypomanic behavior, weight loss, but also depression that

is the

> way down form of melancholia, where I literally couldn't get out of

bed, and

> everything in life looked extremely bleak. This behavior went on

for several

> yrs, not months. I didn't know what was happening to me, so it

made the

> panic attacks and phobias and such much worse, with the lack of

knowledge I

> had at that time. This is when I started studying psychiatry,

thyroid

> disease, and everything that looked like " me " . It was still around

7 more

> yrs before I was to be diagnosed with a crashed thyroid, but around

15 more

> yrs before I would run the antibodies tests for Hashi's MYSELF,

after I got

> into these blessed thyroid groups. When I read this publication,

it was as

> though so many things came together. No, I'm not completely well,

still

> have a long way to go, but I understand, now, what all went on

there,

> combined with many other physical and emotional and spiritual

changes, as

> well. Here it is.

>

> www.drrichardhall.com/publications.htm

>

> I am not a licensed professional, not directly in these fields, at

least. I

> work with the elderly and mentally disturbed people and am a CNA

only. Not

> all people in a nursing home are ONLY elderly (some are younger

people).

> Even many elderly are known in their histories to have had

emotional

> disturbances ALL their lives, but HAS it been all emotional, and

what

> exactly IS emotional? More and more, all these things are found to

be

> highly connected to the way the brain and body coordinate

to " resolve "

> terrible situations, plus heredity has something to do with it

also, with

> almost all these things, i.e., the way a person's body responds to

all these

> stressors, both physical AND emotional.

>

>

>

>

> Thanks - Will try to read it tonight. Jeff

> Labs - Diabetes

>

>

> > Thanks Kats -Will do. It's time for me to get a handle on my

> > health. Sure hope I don't have diabetes. It would make things

more

> > difficullt for me to figure out. Last night - had the sweats all

> > night - heater was turned off. Will go for labs on Friday A.M. Is

it

> > OK to take meds in morning? - labs are 12 hour fast.

> > Sunday and Monday were good days for me, leg pain was tolerable

> > and had a bit of energy. Yesterday ugh and today's not so hot. I

try

> > not to get my hopes up too high on good days, knowing there may be

> > some not so good ahead. This really does a number on the

emotions. Is

> > it possible that my thyroid was abnormal for many years and went

> > undiagnosed? My heart rate was always over 100/min. and always

used

> > to sweat profusely. Depression has always been a major issue,

since

> > age 19 (53y/o now)one doc thought I was definitely bipolar.

Perhaps

> > I'm looking for an excuse for the depression. In today's society,

> > it's easier to say you have physical problem, rather than mental.

> > They are all interwoven, mental, physical, spiritual and

emotional.

> > Hope this doesn't sound down. The good news is that I'm no

> > longer " shadow boxing " with my symptoms. Half the battle is

knowing

> > what's wrong. This sure has helped tremendously, knowing I'm not

all

> > alone with this crap anymore. Thanks again everyone.

> > One more question - please bear with me. I've had these small

> > bumps on my head for past 3 years. They come and go, but sometimes

> > they itch like crazy and then they're like small lesions. I had

one

> > doctor that told me he thought it may be mainge, because I did

some

> > volunteer work at an animal shelter. Should have mainged him

right in

> > the kisser! It's not that big a deal, just annoying. Is diabetes a

> > side effect of thyroid or vice-versa?

> > Have to buy a thermometer today. This is how whacko things are -

> > wrote a list of things to get from the store. Got to store and

went

> > to take out list - no list. I forgot the list! Now I'll have to

write

> > a reminder to take the reminder with me.lol

> > " You talking to me? You talking to me? There's nobody else here,

so

> > you must be talking to me. Your talking to me. " Taxi Driver

> > Hope everyone has a great day- Hey , how's your new job

> > going?

>

[Guest guest]

>

> If you are doing labs first thing in the morning then it is best to

> delay your meds until after labs are done.

> With Synthroid being a synthetic, it takes roughly 4 hours for it

to

> travel through the stomach, through the blood strem and be uptaken

by

> the cells..If you take meds and then lab the blood work for T4 will

> show this and is unable to tell between the two..

> You never want to skip your meds, btu you can safely delay them..if

> you do labs in the afternoon then take your meds on time and then

> wait 4 hours before labs..hope this makes sense.

>

> I saw your list of labwork and did not see a FT4 or Ft3 listed on

> it.. can you get the doc to add these to the labwork?

>

> As for which came first thyroid/diabetes..they are both autoimmune

> disorders, once your body is susectable for one, it because

> suspectable to others..of course by doing all you can and getting

> proper treatment you lower the antibodies which limits the

condition.

>

> And yes, most people are hypo and go undiagnosed for years, same

for

> diabetes..they are slow moving diseases and effect most parts of

the

> body that a lo tof docs and people for that matter just brush it

off

> as being the signs of aging until they hit bottom and have obvious

> symptoms.

>

> Kats3boys

>Kats-

Thanks for all the info - very helpful. Bought a thermometer last

night. Bedtime 97.8 This morning 96.8 I'm going to keep a log as

suggested and do some more reading. Jeff