Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 In a message dated 6/19/2007 2:12:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, bbledsoe@... writes: This will all become and Advanced Emergency medical Technician in a few years. At least until someone comes up with yet another name change? Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant LNMolino@... (Cell Phone) (IFW/TFW/FSS Office) (IFW/TFW/FSS Fax) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962) The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Recently, several EMS training programs in the Austin/Hill Country area have been offering courses based on the Intermediate 1999 curriculum as opposed to the 1985 curriculum. Now that NREMT is offering computerized testing, is it possible to take an I/99 exam? As I understand it, Texas does not recognize the I/99 certification. And even more unusually, I've heard a rumor that Texas is supposed to recognize I/99 certification " next year. " Do any medical directors provide additional protocols for those who have completed an I/99 curriculum? I realize I'm asking a lot of questions. I'm just really confused why I've seen at least 2 separate I/99 courses around here. -Wes Ogilvie ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 I-99 is only being used in a few states and using state testing (most are hybrid courses). More are using I85-so many more than we have published an updated I-95 book. This will all become and Advanced Emergency medical Technician in a few years. BEB From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of lnmolino@... Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 1:54 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: I-99 Question In a message dated 6/19/2007 1:45:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ExLngHrn@... <mailto:ExLngHrn%40aol.com> writes: I realize I'm asking a lot of questions. I'm just really confused why I've seen at least 2 separate I/99 courses around here. You asking questions now that's a novelty Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant LNMolino@... <mailto:LNMolino%40aol.com> (Cell Phone) (IFW/TFW/FSS Office) (IFW/TFW/FSS Fax) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962) The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Wes, I have been offering the I-99 course for the past 2 years. The student has the option of taking the National Registry examination for either the I-85 or the I-99. As far as Texas recognizing the certification, the state recognizes the Intermediate level certification without specifying I-85 or I-99. As you know, Texas is a physician delegated practice state, which means that the Medical Director you practice under has the right to allow you to perform skills to the I-99 level if they so choose. Our Medical Director does allow an I-99 Intermediate to practice to their skill level. So, in answer to your question, I would say that you should discuss this matter with your Medical Director to determine if they will allow you to practice at that level or not. Thom Seeber, CCEMT-P Education Coordinator American Medical Response - Houston 7509 South Freeway Houston, Texas 77021 Office: Cell: I-99 Question Recently, several EMS training programs in the Austin/Hill Country area have been offering courses based on the Intermediate 1999 curriculum as opposed to the 1985 curriculum. Now that NREMT is offering computerized testing, is it possible to take an I/99 exam? As I understand it, Texas does not recognize the I/99 certification. And even more unusually, I've heard a rumor that Texas is supposed to recognize I/99 certification " next year. " Do any medical directors provide additional protocols for those who have completed an I/99 curriculum? I realize I'm asking a lot of questions. I'm just really confused why I've seen at least 2 separate I/99 courses around here. -Wes Ogilvie ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 My understanding is that as a paramedic/intermediate/basic we are not allowed to do anything without a medical directors approval and that our medical directors can authorize us above and beyond our skill level should he see fit and we can practice at that level. But if we are not under a medical director we can't do something as simple as adminster oxygen even as a paramedic. So I would assume that it wouldn't matter whether you are an I99 or not the state will certify you as an intermediate and your medical director will be the deciding factor of what level you can " practice " at. But that is just my understanding of how our system works here in Texas. Someone correct me if I am wrong. Leach EMT-P > > Wes, > I have been offering the I-99 course for the past 2 years. The student has > the option of taking the National Registry examination for either the I-85 > or the I-99. As far as Texas recognizing the certification, the state > recognizes the Intermediate level certification without specifying I-85 or > I-99. > As you know, Texas is a physician delegated practice state, which means that > the Medical Director you practice under has the right to allow you to > perform skills to the I-99 level if they so choose. Our Medical Director > does allow an I-99 Intermediate to practice to their skill level. > So, in answer to your question, I would say that you should discuss this > matter with your Medical Director to determine if they will allow you to > practice at that level or not. > > Thom Seeber, CCEMT-P > Education Coordinator > American Medical Response - Houston > 7509 South Freeway > Houston, Texas 77021 > Office: > Cell: > > I-99 Question > > > Recently, several EMS training programs in the Austin/Hill Country area have > been offering courses based on the Intermediate 1999 curriculum as opposed > to the 1985 curriculum. > > Now that NREMT is offering computerized testing, is it possible to take an > I/99 exam? As I understand it, Texas does not recognize the I/99 > certification. And even more unusually, I've heard a rumor that Texas is > supposed to recognize I/99 certification " next year. " > > Do any medical directors provide additional protocols for those who have > completed an I/99 curriculum? > > I realize I'm asking a lot of questions. I'm just really confused why I've > seen at least 2 separate I/99 courses around here. > > -Wes Ogilvie > > ______________________________________________________________________ __ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from > AOL at AOL.com. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 " So I would assume that it wouldn't matter whether you are an I99 or not the state will certify you as an intermediate and your medical director will be the deciding factor of what level you can " practice " at. " But taking the I-99 curriculum makes a nice packaged course to save the medical directors some time and training effort. It's a researched, established curricula, and there is a (supposedly) validated exam. Probably makes for more comfortable risk managers. -- Grayson, CCEMT-P, etc. MEDIC Training Solutions http://www.medictrainingsolutions.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 In a message dated 6/20/2007 12:04:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time, txladymedic@... writes: But if we are not under a medical director we can't do something as simple as adminster oxygen even as a paramedic. You have no standing orders? Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant LNMolino@... (Cell Phone) (IFW/TFW/FSS Office) (IFW/TFW/FSS Fax) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962) The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 In a message dated 6/20/2007 2:57:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time, emsleneveu@... writes: Lou, Standing orders come from a medical director. If I don't have a medical director, I cannot do anything. Point taken. Did not see that Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant LNMolino@... (Cell Phone) (IFW/TFW/FSS Office) (IFW/TFW/FSS Fax) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962) The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 Lou, Standing orders come from a medical director. If I don't have a medical director, I can not do anything. Tom wearing his thinking cap Tom & Marsha LeNeveu Paramedic, Future RN & RN Fort Worth Texas Email: TomMarshaLeNeveu@... yahoo Group: Christian_Medic Re: Re: I-99 Question In a message dated 6/20/2007 12:04:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time, txladymedic@ yahoo.com writes: But if we are not under a medical director we can't do something as simple as adminster oxygen even as a paramedic. You have no standing orders? Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/ EMSI Freelance Consultant/Trainer/ Author/Journalis t/Fire Protection Consultant LNMolino (AT) aol (DOT) com (Cell Phone) (IFW/TFW/FSS Office) (IFW/TFW/FSS Fax) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962) The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. ************ ********* ********* ******** See what's free at http://www.aol. com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 Try and get anyone DSHS to enforce that one. I have a volunteer fireman that has no training that makes first response calls that administers O2 even after we have requested that he not do so. I couldn't get any help from the state on this one. Henry Re: Re: I-99 Question In a message dated 6/20/2007 12:04:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time, txladymedic@... writes: But if we are not under a medical director we can't do something as simple as adminster oxygen even as a paramedic. You have no standing orders? Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant LNMolino@... (Cell Phone) (IFW/TFW/FSS Office) (IFW/TFW/FSS Fax) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962) The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 It's kind of difficult to suspend someone's certification if they don't have one. Thom Seeber, CCEMT-P Education Coordinator American Medical Response - Houston 7509 South Freeway Houston, Texas 77021 Office: Cell: Re: Re: I-99 Question Try and get anyone DSHS to enforce that one. I have a volunteer fireman that has no training that makes first response calls that administers O2 even after we have requested that he not do so. I couldn't get any help from the state on this one. Henry Re: Re: I-99 Question In a message dated 6/20/2007 12:04:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time, txladymedic@... writes: But if we are not under a medical director we can't do something as simple as adminster oxygen even as a paramedic. You have no standing orders? Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant LNMolino@... (Cell Phone) (IFW/TFW/FSS Office) (IFW/TFW/FSS Fax) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962) The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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