Re: bee attack - final note

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In a message dated 6/15/2007 10:35:50 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

jpercer@... writes:

You know, that's confidence in the product... I don't think you could pay me

to ride a tractor up to an Africanized hive unsuited...

True but it was likely an Aggie.

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http://www.beealert.com/

This system will provide protection for immediate rescue. Later, it or

firefighting foam can be used to kill the bees. In a Texas A & M test, the fog

created by the BeeAlert allowed an unprotected rescuer, riding a Deere

lawn tractor, to ride up to an AHB hive and remain for several minutes and

then retreat to a safe distance. Contact with the AHBs was almost 5 minutes

in duration and the unprotected driver received only 3-5 stings.

BEB

From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On

Behalf Of Lee

Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 6:20 AM

To: texasems-l

Subject: RE: bee atack - final note

I somehow missed the link can you please repost or send it to me off-line?

Thanks

Lee

From: texasems-l <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:texasems-l <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com> ]

On

Behalf Of

Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 11:06 PM

To: texasems-l <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com>

Subject: bee atack - final note

Dr. Bledsoe, thanks for the link. I am looking into funding for the system

immediately.

To everyone on the list. Thanks for the information. If you live in an area

that has had any indication of the African Bees, get ready now. Do not get

caught without a plan like we did today.

Things we realized after review:

1. These bees attack in large numbers and over a large

area.

2. They were drawn to attack dark color clothing more

aggressively than light colors.

3. Small pets die quickly - there were a number of cats

that did not escape.

4. Swatting pisses them off.

5. Running and waving your arms pisses them off.

6. You can not outrun them.

7. Bunker gear and duct tape still leaves openings for

bees to enter.

8. Bees can get into a Troopers shirt and under the body

armor.

9. A trooper can get naked in the front seat of the patrol

car when his shirt is full of bees.

10. Bees have no respect for Paramedics!

11. When you think you have your initial (ho-hum) call for a

bee sting under control, all hell will break loose.

12. We do not carry enough Benadryl, Epi. 1:1,000, Epi pens

and protective clothing.

13. Every Tom, Dick and Harry will walk into the attack after

you told them to leave and then want you to come take care of them.

14. The press is immune to attack (so I gather, as I was

informed they had the right to go take their pictures)

15. # 14 is false

16. There is a very real need to have a written policy between

the EMS and local VFD for aid in extricating patients to a safe area.

17. The bees are here and we were not adequately prepared for

the severity of the attack

18. We will improve in short time!

19. The sting between the eyes hurt like you know what!

After all the work we have attempted to do since 9-11, All the homeland

money spent, all the NIMS, bioterrorism training and all that stuff. We came

close to getting our butt kicked by Mother Nature.

Good news is everyone survived. Three most serious patients were released to

go home after 4-5 hour stay in ER.

, Director

Seminole EMS

302 S. Main

Seminole, Texas 79360

FAX

Cell

[Guest guest]

You know, that's confidence in the product... I don't think you could pay me

to ride a tractor up to an Africanized hive unsuited...

J Percer

>

> http://www.beealert.com/

>

> This system will provide protection for immediate rescue. Later, it or

> firefighting foam can be used to kill the bees. In a Texas A & M test, the

> fog

> created by the BeeAlert allowed an unprotected rescuer, riding a

> Deere

> lawn tractor, to ride up to an AHB hive and remain for several minutes and

> then retreat to a safe distance. Contact with the AHBs was almost 5

> minutes

> in duration and the unprotected driver received only 3-5 stings.

>

> BEB

>

> From: texasems-l <texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:

> texasems-l <texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com>] On

> Behalf Of Lee

> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 6:20 AM

> To: texasems-l <texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: RE: bee atack - final note

>

> I somehow missed the link can you please repost or send it to me off-line?

>

> Thanks

>

> Lee

>

> From: texasems-l <texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:

> texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com>

> [mailto:texasems-l <texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:

> texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com> ]

> On

> Behalf Of

> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 11:06 PM

> To: texasems-l <texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:

> texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: bee atack - final note

>

> Dr. Bledsoe, thanks for the link. I am looking into funding for the system

> immediately.

>

> To everyone on the list. Thanks for the information. If you live in an

> area

> that has had any indication of the African Bees, get ready now. Do not get

> caught without a plan like we did today.

>

> Things we realized after review:

>

> 1. These bees attack in large numbers and over a large

> area.

>

> 2. They were drawn to attack dark color clothing more

> aggressively than light colors.

>

> 3. Small pets die quickly - there were a number of cats

> that did not escape.

>

> 4. Swatting pisses them off.

>

> 5. Running and waving your arms pisses them off.

>

> 6. You can not outrun them.

>

> 7. Bunker gear and duct tape still leaves openings for

> bees to enter.

>

> 8. Bees can get into a Troopers shirt and under the body

> armor.

>

> 9. A trooper can get naked in the front seat of the patrol

> car when his shirt is full of bees.

>

> 10. Bees have no respect for Paramedics!

>

> 11. When you think you have your initial (ho-hum) call for a

> bee sting under control, all hell will break loose.

>

> 12. We do not carry enough Benadryl, Epi. 1:1,000, Epi pens

> and protective clothing.

>

> 13. Every Tom, Dick and Harry will walk into the attack after

> you told them to leave and then want you to come take care of them.

>

> 14. The press is immune to attack (so I gather, as I was

> informed they had the right to go take their pictures)

>

> 15. # 14 is false

>

> 16. There is a very real need to have a written policy between

> the EMS and local VFD for aid in extricating patients to a safe area.

>

> 17. The bees are here and we were not adequately prepared for

> the severity of the attack

>

> 18. We will improve in short time!

>

> 19. The sting between the eyes hurt like you know what!

>

> After all the work we have attempted to do since 9-11, All the homeland

> money spent, all the NIMS, bioterrorism training and all that stuff. We

> came

> close to getting our butt kicked by Mother Nature.

>

> Good news is everyone survived. Three most serious patients were released

> to

> go home after 4-5 hour stay in ER.

>

> , Director

>

> Seminole EMS

>

> 302 S. Main

>

> Seminole, Texas 79360

>

>

>

> FAX

>

> Cell

>

>

[Guest guest]

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https://www.dadant.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=34

Bert Lagarde

Paramedic, Beekeeper, Firefighter

Marfa EMS

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,

I am currently in land training with USDA and we just covered their

policy on Africanized bees. Two of the students in class are from Africa

and have had first hand experience with them as well. They said if a swarm

is near and you are out in a field, to lay down and be very still and

absolutely do not kill one. It is the killing/phermone release and the

running that sets them off. Counter-intuitive I know, but his gentleman has

used the technique at a research station. He startled a hive, laid down and

they flew over him. I am not sure I could pull it off, but it is good to

have another approach to consider if you are hiking in the middle of

nowhere.

Raina Dodson

>

>Reply-To: texasems-l

>To: texasems-l

>Subject: Re: bee attack - final note

>Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 08:12:27 -0700 (PDT)

>

>A whole lot less expensive and less cumbersome then bunker gear.

>

> https://www.dadant.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=34

>

> Bert Lagarde

> Paramedic, Beekeeper, Firefighter

> Marfa EMS

>

>

>---------------------------------

>Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels

>in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit.

>

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