Guest guest Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 Hi Topper. I know you made some suggestions about dealing with the pain from the plantar faciitis and I need the information now. I should have saved it, but didn't need it at the time, so I didn't. Mine is getting a little better, but after grocery shopping this evening, it's really bad right now, even after an extra dose of pain reliever. I need a refill on my Armour (not out yet though) and the pharmacy is closed because they didn't have any power this morning. We apparently had a really rocking thunderstorm last night. I missed all the noise, but not the wind we got before hand. It was REALLY windy last night. I thought it was going to carry the house away. Fortunately we didn't lose power more than a few seconds at a time. Anyway, and help and suggestions would be greatly appreciated.Kathy >^,,^<KitzCat146@...http://www.chaytongroup.com/modernbill/order/index.php?aid=ka081104http://www.heartwarmers4u.com/members/?kitzcatkitzcat2001 on Yahoo Messengerkitzcat on MSN MessengerIn a cat's eyes, all things belong to cats. - English Proverb Never Miss an EmailStay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 With PF the pain is caused from swelling of the sheath(s) and lack of lubrication because of the swelling.. so it's the friction of the movement when you move that makes it scream. That's why it hurts more when you first stand up.. the swelling increases when not moving and standing on it... after you walk around a bit the swelling gets physically compressed allowing some of the lubrication to pass through.. but not enough... still hurts. Pain relievers help block the pain, and reduce some of the swelling. but not enough. I know.. lengthy explanation but if you know the why it's easier to find a fix. For me it was a 20 pop or water bottle mostly filled with water and then frozen. You put a sock on your foot to protect your skin, put the frozen bottle on the floor and put your gimpy foot on the bottle. Gently rolling it back and forth.. or if that hurts too much, just let it rest. The cold will reduce the inflammation and allow the lubrication to work back through the sheaths. The round of the bottle helps to comfort the arch of the foot. You chill it for fifteen minutes, then take the bottle away and allow the foot to warm itself for fifteen minutes... and repeat that cycle as long as it takes to ease it up... as often during the day as you care to. I kept a collection of bottles in the freezer so that I could rotate bottles.. and even though I've not had trouble for over three years.. take a peek in the freezer, there are three bottles in there still.. that's how bad PF is, for anyone that is wondering.. 3 years later I still have those bottles ready. Until it settles down, don't walk around without shoes. At least wear a shoe, with a good arch, on the PF foot.. to help keep it from swelling as bad. Just hearing about it makes my eyes water... it's just a hurt that is not welcome to remember! I found that the ice bottles actually did more for managing the pain that the pain pills did.... Oh.. forgot.. the stretches... do you remember how to do those? That helps to keep the sheaths lubed which reduces the friction which reduces the swelling which reduces the pain.... I'll type them out if you don't remember.. I scan my archives to see if I still have a copy... Topper () On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:02:48 -0800 (PST) Kathy Kitzcat writes: Hi Topper. I know you made some suggestions about dealing with the pain from the plantar faciitis and I need the information now. I should have saved it, but didn't need it at the time, so I didn't. Mine is getting a little better, but after grocery shopping this evening, it's really bad right now, even after an extra dose of pain reliever. I need a refill on my Armour (not out yet though) and the pharmacy is closed because they didn't have any power this morning. We apparently had a really rocking thunderstorm last night. I missed all the noise, but not the wind we got before hand. It was REALLY windy last night. I thought it was going to carry the house away. Fortunately we didn't lose power more than a few seconds at a time. Anyway, and help and suggestions would be greatly appreciated.Kathy >^,,^< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Hey Topper and all! Reading these posts reminds me, too of the PF pain that I had a while back. I can't even remember how I got it. I switched to Birkenstocks--expensive, but worth it--for work. Not attractive " business " type shoes for a woman, but so worth it in comfort. Silly me, I never thought of freezing water in bottles--I always used a frozen sausage tube or a frozen corn (McKenzie's). BioFreeze (an ointment) works well, too. The stretches--gotta do them--and just take your time in the mornings getting up---that was when it always hurt the most with me. A good pedicurist (or a massage therapist) can always work the foot and relieve some of the pain. Treat yourself to a good manicure--and it doesn't have to be at one of those expensive places, either. Our little $20.00 pedicure in the Winn-Dixie shopping center is perfect and they know what they are doing! Good Luck. The pain does go away with effort and good shoes. I also needed a heel cushion during the day in my regular shoes (not in my Birks) as well as a small arch support. A chiropractor or a podiatrist can tell you what is best. Dorothy --- topper2@... wrote: > With PF the pain is caused from swelling of the > sheath(s) and lack of > lubrication because of the swelling.. so it's the > friction of the > movement when you move that makes it scream. > > That's why it hurts more when you first stand up.. > the swelling increases > when not moving and standing on it... after you walk > around a bit the > swelling gets physically compressed allowing some of > the lubrication to > pass through.. but not enough... still hurts. > > Pain relievers help block the pain, and reduce some > of the swelling. but > not enough. > > I know.. lengthy explanation but if you know the why > it's easier to find > a fix. > > For me it was a 20 pop or water bottle mostly filled > with water and then > frozen. > > You put a sock on your foot to protect your skin, > put the frozen bottle > on the floor and put your gimpy foot on the bottle. > Gently rolling it > back and forth.. or if that hurts too much, just let > it rest. > > The cold will reduce the inflammation and allow the > lubrication to work > back through the sheaths. The round of the bottle > helps to comfort the > arch of the foot. > > You chill it for fifteen minutes, then take the > bottle away and allow the > foot to warm itself for fifteen minutes... and > repeat that cycle as long > as it takes to ease it up... as often during the day > as you care to. > > I kept a collection of bottles in the freezer so > that I could rotate > bottles.. and even though I've not had trouble for > over three years.. > take a peek in the freezer, there are three bottles > in there still.. > that's how bad PF is, for anyone that is wondering.. > 3 years later I > still have those bottles ready. > > Until it settles down, don't walk around without > shoes. At least wear a > shoe, with a good arch, on the PF foot.. to help > keep it from swelling as > bad. > > Just hearing about it makes my eyes water... it's > just a hurt that is not > welcome to remember! > > I found that the ice bottles actually did more for > managing the pain that > the pain pills did.... > > Oh.. forgot.. the stretches... do you remember how > to do those? That > helps to keep the sheaths lubed which reduces the > friction which reduces > the swelling which reduces the pain.... I'll type > them out if you don't > remember.. I scan my archives to see if I still have > a copy... > > > Topper () > > > > On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:02:48 -0800 (PST) Kathy > Kitzcat > kitzcat2001@...> writes: > Hi Topper. I know you made some suggestions about > dealing with the pain > from the plantar faciitis and I need the information > now. I should have > saved it, but didn't need it at the time, so I > didn't. Mine is getting a > little better, but after grocery shopping this > evening, it's really bad > right now, even after an extra dose of pain > reliever. I need a refill on > my Armour (not out yet though) and the pharmacy is > closed because they > didn't have any power this morning. We apparently > had a really rocking > thunderstorm last night. I missed all the noise, > but not the wind we got > before hand. It was REALLY windy last night. I > thought it was going to > carry the house away. Fortunately we didn't lose > power more than a few > seconds at a time. > Anyway, and help and suggestions would be greatly > appreciated. > > > Kathy >^,,^< ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 No, I don't remember the stretches. I remembered the frozen bottle, but my pain is mostly in my heel and the bottles don't work that well, although they do help some.topper2@... wrote: With PF the pain is caused from swelling of the sheath(s) and lack of lubrication because of the swelling.. so it's the friction of the movement when you move that makes it scream. That's why it hurts more when you first stand up.. the swelling increases when not moving and standing on it... after you walk around a bit the swelling gets physically compressed allowing some of the lubrication to pass through.. but not enough... still hurts. Pain relievers help block the pain, and reduce some of the swelling. but not enough. I know.. lengthy explanation but if you know the why it's easier to find a fix. For me it was a 20 pop or water bottle mostly filled with water and then frozen. You put a sock on your foot to protect your skin, put the frozen bottle on the floor and put your gimpy foot on the bottle. Gently rolling it back and forth.. or if that hurts too much, just let it rest. The cold will reduce the inflammation and allow the lubrication to work back through the sheaths. The round of the bottle helps to comfort the arch of the foot. You chill it for fifteen minutes, then take the bottle away and allow the foot to warm itself for fifteen minutes... and repeat that cycle as long as it takes to ease it up... as often during the day as you care to. I kept a collection of bottles in the freezer so that I could rotate bottles.. and even though I've not had trouble for over three years.. take a peek in the freezer, there are three bottles in there still.. that's how bad PF is, for anyone that is wondering.. 3 years later I still have those bottles ready. Until it settles down, don't walk around without shoes. At least wear a shoe, with a good arch, on the PF foot.. to help keep it from swelling as bad. Just hearing about it makes my eyes water... it's just a hurt that is not welcome to remember! I found that the ice bottles actually did more for managing the pain that the pain pills did.... Oh.. forgot.. the stretches... do you remember how to do those? That helps to keep the sheaths lubed which reduces the friction which reduces the swelling which reduces the pain.... I'll type them out if you don't remember.. I scan my archives to see if I still have a copy... Topper () Kathy >^,,^<KitzCat146@...http://www.chaytongroup.com/modernbill/order/index.php?aid=ka081104http://www.heartwarmers4u.com/members/?kitzcatkitzcat2001 on Yahoo Messengerkitzcat on MSN MessengerIn a cat's eyes, all things belong to cats. - English Proverb Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 Mine was mostly in my heel too... putting the bottle under your foot and gently rolling it back and forth from toes to heel is what does the trick, at least it did for me... The key is to get the inflammation down so that the natural lubricant can move again between the tendon and the sheath... it's that lack of lubrication, the tight fit and the friction (watch where your mind is going with that line) that is causing the pain. The 20 oz bottle, at least for my size foot, gave the right curve for the arch and to allow me to roll it back and forth easily. It's like massaging the underside of the foot except with cold. I had tried ice bags and my standard 2 liter frozen bottle but it wasn't the right shape... it was the rolling that did it, with the cold. You know how it hurts the most when you first stand up? That's cuz the inflammation builds when you aren't walking around on it... walking around on it pushes out some of the swelling.. but not enough to make it totally not hurt anymore. The stretches... hard to describe in words.... You've probably seen them done before though... with one, you stand on the edge of a stair or a board with just the front part of your foot on the step, your heel is out in mid air. You SSSSLLLLOOOOWWWWLLLLLY lower your heels, the front part of your foot staying stationary on the step.. Do NOT bounce, Do NOT go up and down fast.. just very slowly lower then raise on tippy toes... the point of the movement is to slowly move the tendon inside the sheath, as it moves back and forth the fluid, the lubricant that protects the tendon and allows it to move freely, without pain, starts to move inside there again. One of the thing's with tendon pain is that we start to not move, cuz it hurts... by not moving the fluid stops going where it needs to be and the dryness and friction build... making the inflammation and pain worse.... Okay.. the second exercise... Use a counter top, table top, I use our deck railing a lot (cuz I still do these stretches, I don't ever want this pain back again). Stand so that you are about an arm's length from the support (it's go to be able to partially hold your weight) rest your hands on the edge for support and balance. Feet start at about shoulder width. Now.. take one foot and reach it back a bit. So that your foot is in a position like you are standing on tippy toes. SLLOOWWWLLYYY move back as if you are going to try to touch that heel to the floor. This stretches the tendon from under the foot all the way up the back of the leg... it's the same exercise that runners do when warming up to run, they are actually working the same set of tendons. The standing stretches... I'll do those a lot.... Just here a there, a couple or three on each side... When I go stand on the deck to say morning to the sun. When I'm doing dishes. it's just some thing that I do when I think about it as a maintenance routine. Remember mine had ended up getting so bad that it involved the tendons all the way up into my back and caused me to need crutches for three blasted years... I learned from that to not ignore stuff, and to do what I can to help/maintain so that things don't get that bad again. Does that make more sense? Topper () On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 23:00:32 -0800 (PST) Kathy Kitzcat writes: No, I don't remember the stretches. I remembered the frozen bottle, but my pain is mostly in my heel and the bottles don't work that well, although they do help some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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