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Dear CHARGE group,

We are parents of a 5-month-old baby called na who is

being treated and studied for her Charge Syndrome and

metabolic problems.

She's been detected a severe reflux and physicians are

evaluating the possibility of practising a gastrostomy

and a Nissen surgery. At this moment she is fed by tube.

We would like to know if other children with this syndrome

have undergone these surgeries, what were the results,

and if Nissen can solve the reflux issue without

performing the gastrostomy.

It's been quite hard for us to help her, since doctors

mentioned CHARGE syndrome at the beginning, but did not

have much information about it, so we were encouraged to

feed her with a baby bottle and it was a difficult task

for her and for us.

One nurse who takes care of na and

has already looked after another child with CHARGE,

encourages us to ask and find alternatives.

I would be extremely grateful if you could provide us with

some material for reading or consulting. And THANK YOU

for publishing the manual: It brought sunshine to

na's life.

Sincerely yours,

Vanesa & Sebastián

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My son Ben (13 month old CHARGEr) had a GTube and Nissen placed at 4

months of age. He had trouble tolerating large volumes of food and

since he has a trach, the doctors wanted to make sure he didn't

asperate. I'm a big fan of the Gtube, and not a big fan of the

Nissen. For us, it didn't help him. He can vomit whenever he wants

and he still has trouble tolerating large volumes. Actually, I think

he has more trouble now than before because the Nissen made his

stomach even smaller than it was to start with. He gets 13 small

feeds over the pump at a very slow rate every day. His Nissen is

still in tack, which is good... but if it ever came undone, we

wouldn't have the procedure repeated. I know of lots of people who

have said the Nissen is a lifesaver, but for us it didn't help. I

hope this helps.

Good luck. If you do get the Nissen, definitely ask about having it

done laparoscopy.

Amy Russo

>

> Dear CHARGE group,

> We are parents of a 5-month-old baby called na who is

> being treated and studied for her Charge Syndrome and

> metabolic problems.

>

> She's been detected a severe reflux and physicians are

> evaluating the possibility of practising a gastrostomy

> and a Nissen surgery. At this moment she is fed by tube.

>

> We would like to know if other children with this syndrome

> have undergone these surgeries, what were the results,

> and if Nissen can solve the reflux issue without

> performing the gastrostomy.

>

> It's been quite hard for us to help her, since doctors

> mentioned CHARGE syndrome at the beginning, but did not

> have much information about it, so we were encouraged to

> feed her with a baby bottle and it was a difficult task

> for her and for us.

>

> One nurse who takes care of na and

> has already looked after another child with CHARGE,

> encourages us to ask and find alternatives.

>

> I would be extremely grateful if you could provide us with

> some material for reading or consulting. And THANK YOU

> for publishing the manual: It brought sunshine to

> na's life.

>

> Sincerely yours,

>

> Vanesa & Sebastián

>

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Sebastian,

What do you think happened at 3 months of age? Why did she stop being able

to drink her baby bottle?

wendy

Re: Re: Nissen & gastrostom

Amy:

Our daugther na is being fed 24 times a day now.

No pump is used, the nurses are doing it. Half an hour of feeding and half

an hour resting.

This is limiting our playtimes, and also makes more complex the stimulation

games/exercises.

Doctors are going to perform a videodeglution study to see what is

happening, but they mentiones Gastrotomy and Nissen as possible solutions.

na has not need (by now) of a track.

What makes me wonder if this is ussual with CHARGErs babies is the fact that

she WAS able to drink her baby´s bottle for aproximately 1 month, when being

3 months old.

We will ask about laparoscopy Nissen!

Thank you very much for sharing your experiences!!!

Sebastián

>

> My son Ben (13 month old CHARGEr) had a GTube and Nissen placed at 4

> months of age. He had trouble tolerating large volumes of food and

> since he has a trach, the doctors wanted to make sure he didn't

> asperate. I'm a big fan of the Gtube, and not a big fan of the

> Nissen. For us, it didn't help him. He can vomit whenever he wants

> and he still has trouble tolerating large volumes. Actually, I think

> he has more trouble now than before because the Nissen made his

> stomach even smaller than it was to start with. He gets 13 small

> feeds over the pump at a very slow rate every day. His Nissen is

> still in tack, which is good... but if it ever came undone, we

> wouldn't have the procedure repeated. I know of lots of people who

> have said the Nissen is a lifesaver, but for us it didn't help. I

> hope this helps.

> Good luck. If you do get the Nissen, definitely ask about having it

> done laparoscopy.

>

> Amy Russo

>

>

> >

> > Dear CHARGE group,

> > We are parents of a 5-month-old baby called na who is

> > being treated and studied for her Charge Syndrome and

> > metabolic problems.

> >

> > She's been detected a severe reflux and physicians are

> > evaluating the possibility of practising a gastrostomy

> > and a Nissen surgery. At this moment she is fed by tube.

> >

> > We would like to know if other children with this syndrome

> > have undergone these surgeries, what were the results,

> > and if Nissen can solve the reflux issue without

> > performing the gastrostomy.

> >

> > It's been quite hard for us to help her, since doctors

> > mentioned CHARGE syndrome at the beginning, but did not

> > have much information about it, so we were encouraged to

> > feed her with a baby bottle and it was a difficult task

> > for her and for us.

> >

> > One nurse who takes care of na and

> > has already looked after another child with CHARGE,

> > encourages us to ask and find alternatives.

> >

> > I would be extremely grateful if you could provide us with

> > some material for reading or consulting. And THANK YOU

> > for publishing the manual: It brought sunshine to

> > na's life.

> >

> > Sincerely yours,

> >

> > Vanesa & Sebastián

> >

>

>

>

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She started to cough and get extremely angry when drinking.

First it started when she reached the middle of the bottle (80 cm3), so we

stooped for some minutes, she rested for a while and the finish the 2nd

half. So she was taking 40 cm3, ten minutes resting and the other 40 cm3.

Then she started to have problems at a when she had drink 25cm3.

Every day she was worst at drinking her bottles so there was the need to use

a Zonda.

Now she is being fed only by Zonda. If we try to fed her with bottle she

caught at the first swallow.

I know that CHARGErs usually have trouble in swallowing.

Doctor dot think there is a Tracheo-Essofagical fistula.

I´ve read the foundation´s manual and can´t find any reason why this is

happening.

I understand that cranial nerves may be damaged and that has to do with

esophageal movements.

If so, why could she drink her bottles she she was 3 months old?

All swallowing problems associated with charge that I´m aware of are

supposed to be present from the first days, not to increase while the babies

grow.

Thank for you being interested in my babie.

Sebastián

>

> Sebastian,

>

> What do you think happened at 3 months of age? Why did she stop being able

>

> to drink her baby bottle?

>

> wendy

>

> Re: Re: Nissen & gastrostom

>

> Amy:

> Our daugther na is being fed 24 times a day now.

> No pump is used, the nurses are doing it. Half an hour of feeding and half

> an hour resting.

> This is limiting our playtimes, and also makes more complex the

> stimulation

> games/exercises.

> Doctors are going to perform a videodeglution study to see what is

> happening, but they mentiones Gastrotomy and Nissen as possible solutions.

> na has not need (by now) of a track.

> What makes me wonder if this is ussual with CHARGErs babies is the fact

> that

> she WAS able to drink her baby´s bottle for aproximately 1 month, when

> being

> 3 months old.

>

> We will ask about laparoscopy Nissen!

>

> Thank you very much for sharing your experiences!!!

>

> Sebastián

>

> On 10/2/06, Amy Russo <aarusso03@... <aarusso03%40yahoo.com>> wrote:

> >

> > My son Ben (13 month old CHARGEr) had a GTube and Nissen placed at 4

> > months of age. He had trouble tolerating large volumes of food and

> > since he has a trach, the doctors wanted to make sure he didn't

> > asperate. I'm a big fan of the Gtube, and not a big fan of the

> > Nissen. For us, it didn't help him. He can vomit whenever he wants

> > and he still has trouble tolerating large volumes. Actually, I think

> > he has more trouble now than before because the Nissen made his

> > stomach even smaller than it was to start with. He gets 13 small

> > feeds over the pump at a very slow rate every day. His Nissen is

> > still in tack, which is good... but if it ever came undone, we

> > wouldn't have the procedure repeated. I know of lots of people who

> > have said the Nissen is a lifesaver, but for us it didn't help. I

> > hope this helps.

> > Good luck. If you do get the Nissen, definitely ask about having it

> > done laparoscopy.

> >

> > Amy Russo

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Dear CHARGE group,

> > > We are parents of a 5-month-old baby called na who is

> > > being treated and studied for her Charge Syndrome and

> > > metabolic problems.

> > >

> > > She's been detected a severe reflux and physicians are

> > > evaluating the possibility of practising a gastrostomy

> > > and a Nissen surgery. At this moment she is fed by tube.

> > >

> > > We would like to know if other children with this syndrome

> > > have undergone these surgeries, what were the results,

> > > and if Nissen can solve the reflux issue without

> > > performing the gastrostomy.

> > >

> > > It's been quite hard for us to help her, since doctors

> > > mentioned CHARGE syndrome at the beginning, but did not

> > > have much information about it, so we were encouraged to

> > > feed her with a baby bottle and it was a difficult task

> > > for her and for us.

> > >

> > > One nurse who takes care of na and

> > > has already looked after another child with CHARGE,

> > > encourages us to ask and find alternatives.

> > >

> > > I would be extremely grateful if you could provide us with

> > > some material for reading or consulting. And THANK YOU

> > > for publishing the manual: It brought sunshine to

> > > na's life.

> > >

> > > Sincerely yours,

> > >

> > > Vanesa & Sebastián

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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Our son, Vinny, has had the Nissen and gastrostomy

procedures when he was just over 3 months of age.

He was in the NICU on a ventilator for a while whe he

was born so could not eat anything... his was given

TPN via IVs. Once he was off the vent and the TPN, we

tried oral feeds. He did not do well at all. Of

course, we thought it was due to being on the

ventilator for an extended period of time. There was

a period of time on which he would take small amounts

by mouth (once around 3 months of age he took an

entire feeding orally), but cried the whole time as if

here were in pain. Eventually, he would not take

anything by mouth.

They did the tests which showed SEVERE reflux.

Although he maxed out on all of the anti-reflux meds

(Prevacid, Reglan), he was still vomiting like crazy

and losing weight like crazy.

They finally decided on the Nissen and G-tube. I will

say, however, that it was a difficult decision for the

physicians (and us). There were 3 perdiatric general

surgeons, a cardiologist, and a neonatalogist in on

that decision. They informed us that many Nissen

procedures fail- it could be too tight or too loose

and not help the situation at all. To make things

more complicated, Vinny's heart was not doing so well

at the time.

After all was said and done, I know that getting those

procedures was the best decision for Vinny. At 15

months, we still feed him through the g-tube. While

it is not ideal (we'd love for him to eat orally and

enjoy the process of eating), it has really been his

life line. He weighs over 21 pounds at this time. He

attends OT for feeding issues 2 times per week and we

try to feed him at home EVERY day. If we get 2 baby

spoons of food in him orally, that is a great day.

I hope all of this input helps.

ina, mom to Luca (3) & Vinny (15 months w/ cHARgE)

--- Sebastián Streiger

wrote:

> She started to cough and get extremely angry when

> drinking.

> First it started when she reached the middle of the

> bottle (80 cm3), so we

> stooped for some minutes, she rested for a while and

> the finish the 2nd

> half. So she was taking 40 cm3, ten minutes resting

> and the other 40 cm3.

> Then she started to have problems at a when she had

> drink 25cm3.

> Every day she was worst at drinking her bottles so

> there was the need to use

> a Zonda.

> Now she is being fed only by Zonda. If we try to fed

> her with bottle she

> caught at the first swallow.

>

> I know that CHARGErs usually have trouble in

> swallowing.

> Doctor dot think there is a Tracheo-Essofagical

> fistula.

>

> I´ve read the foundation´s manual and can´t find any

> reason why this is

> happening.

> I understand that cranial nerves may be damaged and

> that has to do with

> esophageal movements.

> If so, why could she drink her bottles she she was 3

> months old?

>

> All swallowing problems associated with charge that

> I´m aware of are

> supposed to be present from the first days, not to

> increase while the babies

> grow.

>

> Thank for you being interested in my babie.

>

> Sebastián

>

>

> On 10/2/06, Keedy

> wrote:

> >

> > Sebastian,

> >

> > What do you think happened at 3 months of age? Why

> did she stop being able

> >

> > to drink her baby bottle?

> >

> > wendy

> >

> > Re: Re: Nissen & gastrostom

> >

> > Amy:

> > Our daugther na is being fed 24 times a day

> now.

> > No pump is used, the nurses are doing it. Half an

> hour of feeding and half

> > an hour resting.

> > This is limiting our playtimes, and also makes

> more complex the

> > stimulation

> > games/exercises.

> > Doctors are going to perform a videodeglution

> study to see what is

> > happening, but they mentiones Gastrotomy and

> Nissen as possible solutions.

> > na has not need (by now) of a track.

> > What makes me wonder if this is ussual with

> CHARGErs babies is the fact

> > that

> > she WAS able to drink her baby´s bottle for

> aproximately 1 month, when

> > being

> > 3 months old.

> >

> > We will ask about laparoscopy Nissen!

> >

> > Thank you very much for sharing your

> experiences!!!

> >

> > Sebastián

> >

> > On 10/2/06, Amy Russo <aarusso03@...

> <aarusso03%40yahoo.com>> wrote:

> > >

> > > My son Ben (13 month old CHARGEr) had a GTube

> and Nissen placed at 4

> > > months of age. He had trouble tolerating large

> volumes of food and

> > > since he has a trach, the doctors wanted to make

> sure he didn't

> > > asperate. I'm a big fan of the Gtube, and not a

> big fan of the

> > > Nissen. For us, it didn't help him. He can vomit

> whenever he wants

> > > and he still has trouble tolerating large

> volumes. Actually, I think

> > > he has more trouble now than before because the

> Nissen made his

> > > stomach even smaller than it was to start with.

> He gets 13 small

> > > feeds over the pump at a very slow rate every

> day. His Nissen is

> > > still in tack, which is good... but if it ever

> came undone, we

> > > wouldn't have the procedure repeated. I know of

> lots of people who

> > > have said the Nissen is a lifesaver, but for us

> it didn't help. I

> > > hope this helps.

> > > Good luck. If you do get the Nissen, definitely

> ask about having it

> > > done laparoscopy.

> > >

> > > Amy Russo

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear CHARGE group,

> > > > We are parents of a 5-month-old baby called

> na who is

> > > > being treated and studied for her Charge

> Syndrome and

> > > > metabolic problems.

> > > >

> > > > She's been detected a severe reflux and

> physicians are

> > > > evaluating the possibility of practising a

> gastrostomy

> > > > and a Nissen surgery. At this moment she is

> fed by tube.

> > > >

> > > > We would like to know if other children with

> this syndrome

> > > > have undergone these surgeries, what were the

> results,

> > > > and if Nissen can solve the reflux issue

> without

> > > > performing the gastrostomy.

> > > >

> > > > It's been quite hard for us to help her, since

> doctors

> > > > mentioned CHARGE syndrome at the beginning,

> but did not

> > > > have much information about it, so we were

> encouraged to

> > > > feed her with a baby bottle and it was a

> difficult task

> > > > for her and for us.

> > > >

> > > > One nurse who takes care of na and

> > > > has already looked after another child with

> CHARGE,

> > > > encourages us to ask and find alternatives.

> > > >

> > > > I would be extremely grateful if you could

> provide us with

> > > > some material for reading or consulting. And

> THANK YOU

> > > > for publishing the manual: It brought sunshine

> to

> > > > na's life.

> > > >

> > > > Sincerely yours,

> > > >

> > > > Vanesa & Sebastián

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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My son Eddie is nearly 7 (3 more days) & we've been dealing with new

swallowing issues for the past 9 months. He has always been an oral

eater, but it took about 3 years for him to accept solids (purees)

without the bottle in his mouth to assist in the swallow. He's been

eating oatmeal-like or chunky purees for 4 years but lately brings the

food in and out of his mouth several times before finally swallowing

it. (And he can regurgitate it up to several hours later, but the GI

doesn't think it's severe enough to go the Nissen route at this time)

A recent swallow study showed that the thicker textures don't go down

the esophagus as easily as milk or puddings, so we're back to a sip of

liquid after most bites.

Have any of your doctors suggested a swallow study to see what's going

on internally as she swallows?

joanne

> I´ve read the foundation´s manual and can´t find any reason why this

> is happening.

> I understand that cranial nerves may be damaged and that has to do

> with esophageal movements. If so, why could she drink her bottles she

> she was 3 months old?

>

> All swallowing problems associated with charge that I´m aware of are

> supposed to be present from the first days, not to increase while the

> babies grow.

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Hi Sebastian,

I sent one reply to you already (off-list, and addressed to your wife!).

In terms of why she might swallow earlier, and not later I have a couple of

ideas (and these are just ideas--I don't have anything scientific to back it

up).

One is that the cranial nerve palsys can change over time. Usually they

improve, but there have been examples of them getting worse. Our son Evan did

not appear to have any facial nerve palsys at birth, and at around 2 weeks

started showing a right-sided facial palsy (his mouth and eye lids on that side

didn't move). Around 2 months, it changed so that he could blink but not close

his eyes all the way on either side (but could move the left side of his mouth).

Between 4 and 5 months, he started smiling--but now the right side of his mouth

could move and the left had the palsy. Gradually, his blinking has become more

full and he closes both eyes completely most of the time. If facial nerve

palsys can change, maybe palsys of the nerves involved in swallowing can do the

same???

The second thought has to do with something I have read about infant

swallowing. When babies are first born, the swallowing is more reflexive. As

they get older, the way the nervous system directs swallowing changes--I don't

remember exactly when this switch occurs...maybe it is around 3 months. Maybe

the reflexive swallow wasn't affected by her CHARGE syndrome, but it did affect

the part of the nervous system directing her swallow now. Just a thought. Hope

you are able to find some answers for your daughter.

(mom to Evan, 14.5 months)

Sebastián Streiger wrote:

She started to cough and get extremely angry when drinking.

First it started when she reached the middle of the bottle (80 cm3), so we

stooped for some minutes, she rested for a while and the finish the 2nd

half. So she was taking 40 cm3, ten minutes resting and the other 40 cm3.

Then she started to have problems at a when she had drink 25cm3.

Every day she was worst at drinking her bottles so there was the need to use

a Zonda.

Now she is being fed only by Zonda. If we try to fed her with bottle she

caught at the first swallow.

I know that CHARGErs usually have trouble in swallowing.

Doctor dot think there is a Tracheo-Essofagical fistula.

I´ve read the foundation´s manual and can´t find any reason why this is

happening.

I understand that cranial nerves may be damaged and that has to do with

esophageal movements.

If so, why could she drink her bottles she she was 3 months old?

All swallowing problems associated with charge that I´m aware of are

supposed to be present from the first days, not to increase while the babies

grow.

Thank for you being interested in my babie.

Sebastián

>

> Sebastian,

>

> What do you think happened at 3 months of age? Why did she stop being able

>

> to drink her baby bottle?

>

> wendy

>

> Re: Re: Nissen & gastrostom

>

> Amy:

> Our daugther na is being fed 24 times a day now.

> No pump is used, the nurses are doing it. Half an hour of feeding and half

> an hour resting.

> This is limiting our playtimes, and also makes more complex the

> stimulation

> games/exercises.

> Doctors are going to perform a videodeglution study to see what is

> happening, but they mentiones Gastrotomy and Nissen as possible solutions.

> na has not need (by now) of a track.

> What makes me wonder if this is ussual with CHARGErs babies is the fact

> that

> she WAS able to drink her baby´s bottle for aproximately 1 month, when

> being

> 3 months old.

>

> We will ask about laparoscopy Nissen!

>

> Thank you very much for sharing your experiences!!!

>

> Sebastián

>

> On 10/2/06, Amy Russo <aarusso03@... <aarusso03%40yahoo.com>> wrote:

> >

> > My son Ben (13 month old CHARGEr) had a GTube and Nissen placed at 4

> > months of age. He had trouble tolerating large volumes of food and

> > since he has a trach, the doctors wanted to make sure he didn't

> > asperate. I'm a big fan of the Gtube, and not a big fan of the

> > Nissen. For us, it didn't help him. He can vomit whenever he wants

> > and he still has trouble tolerating large volumes. Actually, I think

> > he has more trouble now than before because the Nissen made his

> > stomach even smaller than it was to start with. He gets 13 small

> > feeds over the pump at a very slow rate every day. His Nissen is

> > still in tack, which is good... but if it ever came undone, we

> > wouldn't have the procedure repeated. I know of lots of people who

> > have said the Nissen is a lifesaver, but for us it didn't help. I

> > hope this helps.

> > Good luck. If you do get the Nissen, definitely ask about having it

> > done laparoscopy.

> >

> > Amy Russo

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Dear CHARGE group,

> > > We are parents of a 5-month-old baby called na who is

> > > being treated and studied for her Charge Syndrome and

> > > metabolic problems.

> > >

> > > She's been detected a severe reflux and physicians are

> > > evaluating the possibility of practising a gastrostomy

> > > and a Nissen surgery. At this moment she is fed by tube.

> > >

> > > We would like to know if other children with this syndrome

> > > have undergone these surgeries, what were the results,

> > > and if Nissen can solve the reflux issue without

> > > performing the gastrostomy.

> > >

> > > It's been quite hard for us to help her, since doctors

> > > mentioned CHARGE syndrome at the beginning, but did not

> > > have much information about it, so we were encouraged to

> > > feed her with a baby bottle and it was a difficult task

> > > for her and for us.

> > >

> > > One nurse who takes care of na and

> > > has already looked after another child with CHARGE,

> > > encourages us to ask and find alternatives.

> > >

> > > I would be extremely grateful if you could provide us with

> > > some material for reading or consulting. And THANK YOU

> > > for publishing the manual: It brought sunshine to

> > > na's life.

> > >

> > > Sincerely yours,

> > >

> > > Vanesa & Sebastián

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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hey it is possible she is aspriating and as for y she could drink back then

and not now i wouldtn know i am a charger allwasy have aspirated form day

one id like to put that one out to any others ever seen later ones in this

world of charge anything is possible and everything is posible ive had

gastrostomy and a nissen nissen has fialed three times ive also got a

feeding jstoma three eyars ago they took my gall bladder out which really

helped i have dumping syndrome which is common in most chargers ive also got

hearing probs colabomas growth problems and many other stuff hugs ellen in

aus 21

>

> My son Eddie is nearly 7 (3 more days) & we've been dealing with new

> swallowing issues for the past 9 months. He has always been an oral

> eater, but it took about 3 years for him to accept solids (purees)

> without the bottle in his mouth to assist in the swallow. He's been

> eating oatmeal-like or chunky purees for 4 years but lately brings the

> food in and out of his mouth several times before finally swallowing

> it. (And he can regurgitate it up to several hours later, but the GI

> doesn't think it's severe enough to go the Nissen route at this time)

>

> A recent swallow study showed that the thicker textures don't go down

> the esophagus as easily as milk or puddings, so we're back to a sip of

> liquid after most bites.

>

> Have any of your doctors suggested a swallow study to see what's going

> on internally as she swallows?

>

> joanne

>

>

>

> > I´ve read the foundation´s manual and can´t find any reason why this

> > is happening.

> > I understand that cranial nerves may be damaged and that has to do

> > with esophageal movements. If so, why could she drink her bottles she

> > she was 3 months old?

> >

> > All swallowing problems associated with charge that I´m aware of are

> > supposed to be present from the first days, not to increase while the

> > babies grow.

>

>

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Joanne:

In 10 days doctors are going to perform a Barium-swallow study.

I hope this bring light to what can be done.

I hope Eddie have a Happy Birthday!!!!!

Greetings

Sebastián

>

> My son Eddie is nearly 7 (3 more days) & we've been dealing with new

> swallowing issues for the past 9 months. He has always been an oral

> eater, but it took about 3 years for him to accept solids (purees)

> without the bottle in his mouth to assist in the swallow. He's been

> eating oatmeal-like or chunky purees for 4 years but lately brings the

> food in and out of his mouth several times before finally swallowing

> it. (And he can regurgitate it up to several hours later, but the GI

> doesn't think it's severe enough to go the Nissen route at this time)

>

> A recent swallow study showed that the thicker textures don't go down

> the esophagus as easily as milk or puddings, so we're back to a sip of

> liquid after most bites.

>

> Have any of your doctors suggested a swallow study to see what's going

> on internally as she swallows?

>

> joanne

>

>

>

> > I´ve read the foundation´s manual and can´t find any reason why this

> > is happening.

> > I understand that cranial nerves may be damaged and that has to do

> > with esophageal movements. If so, why could she drink her bottles she

> > she was 3 months old?

> >

> > All swallowing problems associated with charge that I´m aware of are

> > supposed to be present from the first days, not to increase while the

> > babies grow.

>

>

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Sebastian,

I think that the Barium Swallow should help shed some light on what is going

on with your daughters feedings. My son does not have a trach but has

never been able to swallow a bottle. We did several Barium Swallows that

revealed had severe reflux and he aspirated liquids to his lungs. The

doctors placed a Gastromy button but my husband and I chose not to have the

nissen performed on our son. Instead his reflux has been controlled with a

combination of previcid and keeping him in the upright position after

eating. did have a cleft lip and palette but this wasn't the cause of

the aspirating. The reason they told me that was unable to tolerate

is feedings was uncoordinated swallowing. However, this seemed a little

generic to me so I investigated further with an Ear Nose and Throat (ENT)

Doctor. While was awake the ENT placed a scope through s nose

and on a TV screen we could see the anatomy in s Asophagus. This was

very helpful for us. We learned that has Laryngomalacia which means

the cartilage in his larynx is underdeveloped or floppy. The purpose of the

cartlige is to direct the food away from the windspipe and since his is

floppy it doesn't function properly. With laryngomalacia there is no

intervention we were told that it will develop on his own by the time he is

18 months. Another thing that I wanted to mention is that the first scope

that the dr. performed he learned that had severe redness and swelling

all the way through the larynx, this is another reason that he was unable to

swallow. The scope that we had 6 months later showed no redness and

swelling because the prevecid medication contolled the refulx. When it is

red and swollen it makes it difficult for the children to tolerate the

food. It might be possible that your daugheter was able to tolerate the

feedings for the first 3 months but maybe she was refluxing during that time

without much discomfort, but as time went on it became more raw and red and

swollen causing her to not be able to tolerate the feedings well anymore.

As for my son, I am really glad personally that we did not have the Nissen

perfomed because the previcid medication controlled the reflux after a

little bit of time. And now that he is 13 months, he doesn't depend on the

medication as much but still needs it. As for the Gastromy Button, this was

a lifesaver for us. It made the difference between being

malnourished. The button is not neccessarily a permanant thing. Once the

button is placed and your daughter is holding her weight you can work with

her on swallowing and amounts of liquid etc. By the way I wanted to mention

that with the button we also fed with a pump really slowly because he

couldn't tolorate large volumes, but now we are to the point where there is

no more pump and we feed him bolus feedings 5 times a day, we just slowly

worked our way to that point by gradually increasing the volumes. The

gastromy button made life easier for all of us and especially .

Hope this helps, keep us posted.

>

> Joanne:

> In 10 days doctors are going to perform a Barium-swallow study.

> I hope this bring light to what can be done.

> I hope Eddie have a Happy Birthday!!!!!

>

> Greetings

> Sebastián

>

> On 10/2/06, Joanne Lent <Joannelent@... <Joannelent%40verizon.net>>

> wrote:

> >

> > My son Eddie is nearly 7 (3 more days) & we've been dealing with new

> > swallowing issues for the past 9 months. He has always been an oral

> > eater, but it took about 3 years for him to accept solids (purees)

> > without the bottle in his mouth to assist in the swallow. He's been

> > eating oatmeal-like or chunky purees for 4 years but lately brings the

> > food in and out of his mouth several times before finally swallowing

> > it. (And he can regurgitate it up to several hours later, but the GI

> > doesn't think it's severe enough to go the Nissen route at this time)

> >

> > A recent swallow study showed that the thicker textures don't go down

> > the esophagus as easily as milk or puddings, so we're back to a sip of

> > liquid after most bites.

> >

> > Have any of your doctors suggested a swallow study to see what's going

> > on internally as she swallows?

> >

> > joanne

> >

> >

> >

> > > I´ve read the foundation´s manual and can´t find any reason why this

> > > is happening.

> > > I understand that cranial nerves may be damaged and that has to do

> > > with esophageal movements. If so, why could she drink her bottles she

> > > she was 3 months old?

> > >

> > > All swallowing problems associated with charge that I´m aware of are

> > > supposed to be present from the first days, not to increase while the

> > > babies grow.

> >

> >

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hi sebastian, i have a son 28yrs old(michael)...he has had trouble with refllux

from the get go...he has had numerous egd with dilations of the esophagus...the

reflux scarred his esophagus so bad it caused strictures...which caused him not

to be able to swallow...we did go the nissen route at age 15yr...it helped...he

is on prilosec...80mg a day...which has also helped in slowing down the damage

the reflux causes...he sees a GI specialist regularly for egd to see if he needs

the dilation again...he has always been on pureed foods...and is doing

well...the egd's go quickly and he can come home afterwards....it was years

before we realized his crying and was associated with his reflux

problems...unfortunately his pediatrican never picked up on it...it wasn't until

we had him admitted into the hospital demanding they put him through every test

they could to see if there was anything that caused him to cry for hours and act

out in tantrems...which would go on for days at a time

and then seem to stop for months just to start up again...it would come and go

in waves it seemed...but discovering he had a severe reflux problem was a

blessing...unfortunately it had progressed into barretts esophagus....the damage

can't be repaired but controlled with h1blockers...if i had known about it when

he was little...i would have made sure i didn't lay him down flat at night to

sleep...it seemed like every night he would wake up screaming....i wished i had

known what was going on at the time....i wish u the best with the upcoming

procedure for eddie...i'm sure if the dilation is done u will see instant

results and he will do so much better with his eating....trish(mom to michael

28yrs, charge)

Sebastián Streiger wrote:

Joanne:

In 10 days doctors are going to perform a Barium-swallow study.

I hope this bring light to what can be done.

I hope Eddie have a Happy Birthday!!!!!

Greetings

Sebastián

>

> My son Eddie is nearly 7 (3 more days) & we've been dealing with new

> swallowing issues for the past 9 months. He has always been an oral

> eater, but it took about 3 years for him to accept solids (purees)

> without the bottle in his mouth to assist in the swallow. He's been

> eating oatmeal-like or chunky purees for 4 years but lately brings the

> food in and out of his mouth several times before finally swallowing

> it. (And he can regurgitate it up to several hours later, but the GI

> doesn't think it's severe enough to go the Nissen route at this time)

>

> A recent swallow study showed that the thicker textures don't go down

> the esophagus as easily as milk or puddings, so we're back to a sip of

> liquid after most bites.

>

> Have any of your doctors suggested a swallow study to see what's going

> on internally as she swallows?

>

> joanne

>

>

>

> > I´ve read the foundation´s manual and can´t find any reason why this

> > is happening.

> > I understand that cranial nerves may be damaged and that has to do

> > with esophageal movements. If so, why could she drink her bottles she

> > she was 3 months old?

> >

> > All swallowing problems associated with charge that I´m aware of are

> > supposed to be present from the first days, not to increase while the

> > babies grow.

>

>

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Thank for sharing your experiences.

I´ll keep you posted about what the barium-swallow shows.

All personal experiences are valuable for us to know what to do.

Thanks!!!!

Sebastián

>

> Sebastian,

>

> I think that the Barium Swallow should help shed some light on what is

> going

> on with your daughters feedings. My son does not have a trach but

> has

> never been able to swallow a bottle. We did several Barium Swallows that

> revealed had severe reflux and he aspirated liquids to his lungs.

> The

> doctors placed a Gastromy button but my husband and I chose not to have

> the

> nissen performed on our son. Instead his reflux has been controlled with a

> combination of previcid and keeping him in the upright position after

> eating. did have a cleft lip and palette but this wasn't the cause

> of

> the aspirating. The reason they told me that was unable to tolerate

> is feedings was uncoordinated swallowing. However, this seemed a little

> generic to me so I investigated further with an Ear Nose and Throat (ENT)

> Doctor. While was awake the ENT placed a scope through s nose

> and on a TV screen we could see the anatomy in s Asophagus. This was

> very helpful for us. We learned that has Laryngomalacia which means

> the cartilage in his larynx is underdeveloped or floppy. The purpose of

> the

> cartlige is to direct the food away from the windspipe and since his is

> floppy it doesn't function properly. With laryngomalacia there is no

> intervention we were told that it will develop on his own by the time he

> is

> 18 months. Another thing that I wanted to mention is that the first scope

> that the dr. performed he learned that had severe redness and

> swelling

> all the way through the larynx, this is another reason that he was unable

> to

> swallow. The scope that we had 6 months later showed no redness and

> swelling because the prevecid medication contolled the refulx. When it is

> red and swollen it makes it difficult for the children to tolerate the

> food. It might be possible that your daugheter was able to tolerate the

> feedings for the first 3 months but maybe she was refluxing during that

> time

> without much discomfort, but as time went on it became more raw and red

> and

> swollen causing her to not be able to tolerate the feedings well anymore.

> As for my son, I am really glad personally that we did not have the Nissen

> perfomed because the previcid medication controlled the reflux after a

> little bit of time. And now that he is 13 months, he doesn't depend on the

> medication as much but still needs it. As for the Gastromy Button, this

> was

> a lifesaver for us. It made the difference between being

> malnourished. The button is not neccessarily a permanant thing. Once the

> button is placed and your daughter is holding her weight you can work with

> her on swallowing and amounts of liquid etc. By the way I wanted to

> mention

> that with the button we also fed with a pump really slowly because

> he

> couldn't tolorate large volumes, but now we are to the point where there

> is

> no more pump and we feed him bolus feedings 5 times a day, we just slowly

> worked our way to that point by gradually increasing the volumes. The

> gastromy button made life easier for all of us and especially .

> Hope this helps, keep us posted.

>

>

>

> On 10/3/06, Sebastián Streiger

<sebastian.streiger@...<sebastian.streiger%40gmail.com>>

> wrote:

> >

> > Joanne:

> > In 10 days doctors are going to perform a Barium-swallow study.

> > I hope this bring light to what can be done.

> > I hope Eddie have a Happy Birthday!!!!!

> >

> > Greetings

> > Sebastián

> >

> > On 10/2/06, Joanne Lent

<Joannelent@...<Joannelent%40verizon.net><Joannelent%40verizon.net>>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > My son Eddie is nearly 7 (3 more days) & we've been dealing with new

> > > swallowing issues for the past 9 months. He has always been an oral

> > > eater, but it took about 3 years for him to accept solids (purees)

> > > without the bottle in his mouth to assist in the swallow. He's been

> > > eating oatmeal-like or chunky purees for 4 years but lately brings the

> > > food in and out of his mouth several times before finally swallowing

> > > it. (And he can regurgitate it up to several hours later, but the GI

> > > doesn't think it's severe enough to go the Nissen route at this time)

> > >

> > > A recent swallow study showed that the thicker textures don't go down

> > > the esophagus as easily as milk or puddings, so we're back to a sip of

> > > liquid after most bites.

> > >

> > > Have any of your doctors suggested a swallow study to see what's going

> > > on internally as she swallows?

> > >

> > > joanne

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > I´ve read the foundation´s manual and can´t find any reason why this

> > > > is happening.

> > > > I understand that cranial nerves may be damaged and that has to do

> > > > with esophageal movements. If so, why could she drink her bottles

> she

> > > > she was 3 months old?

> > > >

> > > > All swallowing problems associated with charge that I´m aware of are

> > > > supposed to be present from the first days, not to increase while

> the

> > > > babies grow.

> > >

> > >

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