Re: Topper's perspective on mini meals and setting up an eating program

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the compliment on the group!! *BLUSH*

Your comments are very true.. there are so many variables that makes us

very different even though we also share so much... we need to remember

that....

I've been mini mealing for about.... three years now?

The way I set up my routine was to first determine my maintenance

calories... that's ideal (healthy goal) body weight (in pounds)

multiplied by 15 calories. So just to use round numbers for examples....

If you weigh 300 pounds and your healthy goal weight is 200 pounds you

would multiply 200 by 15 to get 3,000.

So the amount of calories to maintain your ideal weight would be 3,000.

If you were to stick to that, the theory is that you would not gain, and

would not lose. Your body would function on the 3,000 calories and the

excess weight that you have would just stay there... not increasing, not

decreasing.. just stored like the savings account that it is...

If you wish to lose weight you reduce from that 3,000.

I made up a number to compensate for being hypo... I decided, on my own,

that you knock off about 500 calories from a 2,000 to 3,000 calorie a day

maintenance diet to compensate for a lowered hypo metabolism. If your

metabolism isn't bad hypo (reduced body temp, reduced heart rate) then

don't figure in that reduction.

Now.. to determine how much to reduce the calories to trigger a weight

loss you determine what 2 % of your body weight is... 2 % of 300 pounds

is 6 pounds (300 x .02). So you can safely lose up to six pounds a week.

That's not realistic... but when you are talking about someone that

weighs only 100 pounds, they shouldn't lost more than 2 pounds a week.

If you take into consideration how much of a stress and readjustment it

is for the body to lose weight... and use the 1 % rule instead of the 2 %

rule... you reduce your maximum allowed loss per week by 1/2... so if you

weighed 300 it's okay to lose up to 3 pounds per week.

If you lose weight at a faster rate what you end up doing is triggering

your body to go into starvation mode and start slowing it's metabolic

rate and encouraging it to take food you eat and turn it to fast FIRST

and then what is left gets turned to energy.. you actually starve

yourself fatter.

The more gradually you lose weight the easier it is for your body to

adjust to it's new size, the less likely that it will panic, drop into

starvation mode and start making more fat again. --- Yeah.. I know I

said the same thing twice, just worded different... I did that cuz it's

that important!

This isn't such a huge deal for folks with hormonal systems (glands) that

are able to adjust to the changes in the body with weight loss.. but it

is for us, especially when you are on mostly hormone replacment and very

little thyroid gland activity... We have a fixed amount of hormone to

work with.. it's not going to be adjusting on its own...

So.... How many calories do you have to lose in stored body fat to lose

one pound of fat weight? 3500.

That means that you have to reduce caloric intake and/or increase calorie

burn by 3300 calories to lose 1 pound of fat.

3500 x [number of pounds to lose per week] / 7 days in the week = the

number of calories to reduce per day.

300 pound person wants to lose 3 pounds per week.

3500 x 3 = 10,500 / 7 = 1500 calories per day reduction.

BUT to maintain a healthy nutritional intake of food and keep the body

functioning... you shouldn't drop your caloric intake below 1500 per day.

Now we have this info to work with for our example.

Starting weight 300 pounds

Healthy goal weight 200 pounds

Maintenance calories for 200 pound person is 3,000 calories per day.

Adjust for hypo, if needed, but do not allow total intake to drop below

1500.

Subtract calorie reduction per day from calorie maintenance per day 3,000

- 1500 = 1500

So, for this example we have a daily calorie allowance at the start of

the new eating plan of 1585 calories....

If your healthy goal weight is less than 200, for a lot of ladies it is,

you still have to take in the minimum 1500 calories to maintain

nutritional level, etc... dropping below that means that you won't be

able to maintain nutrients and allow the body proper function (digestive

system, etc)

Now.. to avoid the weight loss plateau you have to redo the math every

couple of weeks. Why?

Cuz you lost weight, ideally, which means that your math changes.... if

you start at 300 and drop 3 pounds each week when you first start... by

the end of three weeks you've lost nearly 10 pounds. (ideally). So you

can't use the same figure for the calorie reduction cuz 1 % of 290 is not

the same as 1 % of 300. So you actually have to increase you calories

per day, slightly, every couple of weeks...

Why? To keep your body from triggering a reduction in metabolic rate as

it strives to maintain the body mass it has.... The body has a VERY

important job, to stay alive. If it senses that food is becoming short

and it's not getting enough, it will start to conserve to avoid starving

to death. By doing that small increase every couple of weeks (in my case

it's a whopping 25 calories per day) you keep it thinking that food is in

GREAT supply.

Then every couple of months you up the calories a bit more, but not above

maintenance level for your then current weight... to trigger the body

into KNOWING that there is a surplus of food and it doesn't have to

conserve (make fat). Then you drop down again to calorie reduced level to

continue weight loss.

Mini meals do that trick thing too.... by eating every 3 hours, never

more than 4 hours, your body perceives that food is in great plenty and

it doesn't have to worry about monitoring the in and out of the

calories... it just gets really frivolous about burning calories.. cuz

that is soooo much easier.

Turning what we eat to fat is a LOT of work, it can actually tire us

out.. and having to turn fat back into calories that can be burned as

fuel is also a lot of work, again, tiring us out.. the trick is to keep

food coming in a steady supply to provide energy to burn.. but slightly

less than what is needed so that the body starts grabbing fat to convert

to energy to fill in what all those meals is just a weeee bit short on...

Skip a meal? Body gets nervous...

....ups the adrenal hormones (increasing the risk of adrenal fatigue and

decreasing the body's ability to utilize thyroid hormone),

....drops metabolic rate (lowered energy levels, fatigue... reduced

conversion, less active thyroid hormone - more hypo)

So with mini mealing... You eat as soon as you can in the morning.. that

means right after meds if you are dosing sublingually, or after the one

hour mark if you swallow your dose. That's first meal. It should be high

in protein and be a balanced meal.

From there.. it depends... my own preference is to keep all my meals

about the same in volume/calorie content and just divide them out during

the day. If my meals are on the higher calorie side I will do five a day,

if they are on the lower calorie side I will do 7... whatever way it

works out to reach my goal calories for the day.

Now days, that's more challenging, for me, cuz I'm more restricted in

food choices...

There are several ways to set up meals.... I started out for the first

few months with careful weighing and measuring.. until I got more

accustomed to how things 'looked'... this much pasta is 100 calories...

this much mashed potato is 100 calories... I just got used to it.... As

time has passed, for the type of foods that I eat... I'm pretty much on

target if I keep my meals to a volume of 1 to 1 1/2 cups per meal,

depending on how calorie dense they are.

If I want to have a sweet, like a piece of cake or donut, I do not add it

as a dessert to a meal, rather I make it a meal... the meal before it

will be higher in protein and slightly lowered in calories... then I will

have the donut as the next mini meal, and the mini meal following it has

to have a bit higher protein (than a normal meal) and be slightly lowered

in calories, again.

This last year with having to drop my dose, then running out of meds...

my metabolism dropped... and along with the money crunch my food choices

also dropped.. I do a LOT of carbs.. rice and home made baked goods,

mostly... and yet, even though I've not lost weight... I did NOT gain...

I consider that a remarkable thing.... to have gone hypo from lack of

meds and NOT gain over the course of a year is huge.. to me.

Since I don't get a huge variety of foods I'm really fastidious about

taking vitamins.. splitting them so I can take some with EACH and EVERY

meal.. that increases the nutrient value of my meal even if it's a rice

and sauce meal or a donut meal....

Meal choices... it varies soooo much... we all have different tastes,

live in different countries and regions, have different budgets, have

different food sensitivities.

My personal thought is that you consider the foods that you like, I'm not

talking favorite junk foods.. but think of healthy foods that you like...

your choice of vegies, meats, carbs and starches... and consider their

caloric and nutrient value... determine your own daily caloric needs to

maintain, and to lose.. then from there play with how you can set up

meals so that you can enjoy healthy foods that you like, and can afford,

in proportions and combinations that you will enjoy and actually look

forward to eating.

Examples:

I pig out for Thanksgiving and Christmas.... I'm here by myself for the

holidays.. but LOVE to cook, so go for as many dishes and as much variety

as I can. I eat alllll day long and get to eat everything I make... I

just don't have some of EVERYTHING at every meal... I break it up....

I have meat with just about every meal, that keeps protein content up...

we need extra protein... and then the rest gets mixed and matched... with

one meal I'll have turkey and mashed potatoes and gravy with some vegie..

the next meal I'll have a bite or so of turkey and some pie.. the next

meal might be turkey on fresh bread with some gravy on it or maybe a

cheese sandwich... I get to eat like that all day long... every three

hours.... I just keep an eye out that I don't go over my Maintenance

calories.... Maintenance calories is your healthy goal weight times

15.... so that you can eat like a piggy... and enjoy everything, but not

take in more calories for those few days of feasting that what your body

can use....

....and get this... if you do this right.. for the week or so after the

holiday feasting.. when you drop back down to the weight reduction

calories... you tend to DROP weight a bit faster than before the holiday

feasting.... pretty much the opposite of what normally happens for folks.

If you love to cook, like me... or love to eat, like me... sometimes you

find yourself sitting down to a meal that is REALLY REALLY good and you

have your mini meal and look at what is still there and want MORE!

Here's what I do... I put the food away, or set it up in my mini meal

containers to be more precise... And chant... I get to have more in two

hours... I get to have more in two hours..... actually it's slightly more

that two.. but I made my chant simple..... when I hit that next meal

marker on the clock.. I get to have MORE!!! All within my eating plan...

without guilt... and not gain weight!!!

...... I literally get to have my cake... and eat it too!

Another trick.. set up your meals in advance.. so that when it's meal

time you can go grab your meal on time and not have to stop and make

something... if you have to make it and your tired, you might not do it..

and down goes your energy, your conversion.. everything.... when you've

eaten your last stashed meal it's time to get busy set up the next batch

of meals so that you have a meal ready for next meal time...

If you are eating with your family, or friends, whatever, plan your mini

meals to work around that shared meal, to keep the shared meal also at

mini meal size...

Oh my... I do get animated on this subject don't I??? I just go so

fascinated when I started out and watching what it did for me....

The fact that I was able to maintain and not gain, despite my drop in

dosage and my crappy food choices makes my truly belive that how you set

up the meals in relation to your body's needs and learning how to utilize

those foods that you have access to (and enjoy) is the best way to go..

It's soo important for our bodies to have food energy available

consistently not only for hormone conversion, but to keep the metabolic

rate stimulated and not forced into shutting down to starvation mode due

to under eating.... It's VERY likely that a hypo can actually starve

themselves fatter cuz of how our bodies aren't able to regulate all the

things that they used to....

IMHO, of course.

I'm gonna shut up now....

If anyone got totally lost and wants to ask questions, cool... if you

think I'm nuts and want to throw tomatoes.... Please make them ripe, not

over ripe, and I'll get my catcher's mitt.... I LOVE tomatoes and don't

get them anymore!!!

*wink*

Topper ()

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:24:40 -0000 " ladybirdrobi "

ladybirdrobi@...> writes:

> Hey all,

> I love this group I get more info in one sitting of reading my

>

> emails then I do anywhere else these days.

> I must point out that though we have similarities because of

> our

> thyroid dysfunctioning we have alot of variables to consider as

> well.

> These variables make it hard to give advise to others on this

> group, each person asking for advise must consider these variables:

> 1. Geographical location the air we breathe effects how are bodies

>

> work.

> 2. Genetics we didn't all come from the same parents

> 3. Indivisual bodies react differently to diets, vitamins and

> supplements

> 4. Diets themselves will differ

> 5. Other disorders within our bodies

> 6. Finally your heating sources are different as well and this too

>

> effects you.

> So consider all these variables because they do make a

> difference in what works for one person and what works for another.

>

> Sometimes we don't think about these variables because we get hung

> up

> on the similarities that make us like one another because it gives

> us

> a common ground to stand on.

>

> I have a question for those of you doing mini meals. I am

> diabetic and told that I should do this as well but, every time I

> have tried I feel like all I am doing all day is eating. So can you

>

> give me a time frame like if you got up at 9:00 am. And is it

> always

> a light meal or is there any heavy meals but in smaller portions.

> So

> I guess I need samples of what you eat as well.

>

> Thanks,

> Robin

[Guest guest]

Topper,

Thanks thats alot of stuff to consider and think about. Mainly

I have to have alot of fiber rich foods while watching the carbs that

I take in because I am diabetic.

I know that my weight is about 245 or lower. I am 5 ft 8 in and

my doctor wants me to lose the weight and get down to 150 - 180 lbs.

He thinks losing weight will solve all of my problems for me but

strangely the more weight I lose the more sensitive to pain that I

get. I know that doesn't make sense but that is what is happening.

So basically I am thinking that 1 cup servings of food should be

about right for at least maintaining the weight I am now.

So you are suggesting say 5 meals daily. My problem right now

is that I lost my apetite. I slept through Wednesday, at least the

hours most people are up and about. My doctor says that this

sleeping thing is seasonal depression because all I want to do is

sleep and I have no energy, but because of dibetes i am trying to eat

at least twice a day.

Regarding every thing else going on here I am sorry that some

people left the group. As far as sharing information from magazines

articles and whatnot it doesn't jeopard a source to reveal the name

and date that the article had so that we could look up the info for

ourselves. So as far as wanting reimbursement for sharing info

giving the books name, author's name and dsate of magazine articles.

Ir's expected by kids doing book reports and they don't get paid for

it so neither should she.

Robin

- In The_Thyroid_Support_Group , topper2@... wrote:

>

> Thanks for the compliment on the group!! *BLUSH*

>

> Your comments are very true.. there are so many variables that

makes us

> very different even though we also share so much... we need to

remember

> that....

>

> I've been mini mealing for about.... three years now?

>

> The way I set up my routine was to first determine my maintenance

> calories... that's ideal (healthy goal) body weight (in pounds)

> multiplied by 15 calories. So just to use round numbers for

examples....

>

> If you weigh 300 pounds and your healthy goal weight is 200 pounds

you

> would multiply 200 by 15 to get 3,000.

>

> So the amount of calories to maintain your ideal weight would be

3,000.

> If you were to stick to that, the theory is that you would not

gain, and

> would not lose. Your body would function on the 3,000 calories and

the

> excess weight that you have would just stay there... not

increasing, not

> decreasing.. just stored like the savings account that it is...

>

> If you wish to lose weight you reduce from that 3,000.

>

> I made up a number to compensate for being hypo... I decided, on my

own,

> that you knock off about 500 calories from a 2,000 to 3,000 calorie

a day

> maintenance diet to compensate for a lowered hypo metabolism. If

your

> metabolism isn't bad hypo (reduced body temp, reduced heart rate)

then

> don't figure in that reduction.

>

> Now.. to determine how much to reduce the calories to trigger a

weight

> loss you determine what 2 % of your body weight is... 2 % of 300

pounds

> is 6 pounds (300 x .02). So you can safely lose up to six pounds a

week.

> That's not realistic... but when you are talking about someone that

> weighs only 100 pounds, they shouldn't lost more than 2 pounds a

week.

>

> If you take into consideration how much of a stress and

readjustment it

> is for the body to lose weight... and use the 1 % rule instead of

the 2 %

> rule... you reduce your maximum allowed loss per week by 1/2... so

if you

> weighed 300 it's okay to lose up to 3 pounds per week.

>

> If you lose weight at a faster rate what you end up doing is

triggering

> your body to go into starvation mode and start slowing it's

metabolic

> rate and encouraging it to take food you eat and turn it to fast

FIRST

> and then what is left gets turned to energy.. you actually starve

> yourself fatter.

>

> The more gradually you lose weight the easier it is for your body to

> adjust to it's new size, the less likely that it will panic, drop

into

> starvation mode and start making more fat again. --- Yeah.. I know

I

> said the same thing twice, just worded different... I did that cuz

it's

> that important!

>

> This isn't such a huge deal for folks with hormonal systems

(glands) that

> are able to adjust to the changes in the body with weight loss..

but it

> is for us, especially when you are on mostly hormone replacment and

very

> little thyroid gland activity... We have a fixed amount of hormone

to

> work with.. it's not going to be adjusting on its own...

>

> So.... How many calories do you have to lose in stored body fat to

lose

> one pound of fat weight? 3500.

>

> That means that you have to reduce caloric intake and/or increase

calorie

> burn by 3300 calories to lose 1 pound of fat.

>

> 3500 x [number of pounds to lose per week] / 7 days in the week =

the

> number of calories to reduce per day.

>

> 300 pound person wants to lose 3 pounds per week.

>

> 3500 x 3 = 10,500 / 7 = 1500 calories per day reduction.

>

> BUT to maintain a healthy nutritional intake of food and keep the

body

> functioning... you shouldn't drop your caloric intake below 1500

per day.

>

> Now we have this info to work with for our example.

> Starting weight 300 pounds

> Healthy goal weight 200 pounds

> Maintenance calories for 200 pound person is 3,000 calories per day.

> Adjust for hypo, if needed, but do not allow total intake to drop

below

> 1500.

> Subtract calorie reduction per day from calorie maintenance per day

3,000

> - 1500 = 1500

>

> So, for this example we have a daily calorie allowance at the start

of

> the new eating plan of 1585 calories....

>

> If your healthy goal weight is less than 200, for a lot of ladies

it is,

> you still have to take in the minimum 1500 calories to maintain

> nutritional level, etc... dropping below that means that you won't

be

> able to maintain nutrients and allow the body proper function

(digestive

> system, etc)

>

> Now.. to avoid the weight loss plateau you have to redo the math

every

> couple of weeks. Why?

> Cuz you lost weight, ideally, which means that your math

changes.... if

> you start at 300 and drop 3 pounds each week when you first

start... by

> the end of three weeks you've lost nearly 10 pounds. (ideally). So

you

> can't use the same figure for the calorie reduction cuz 1 % of 290

is not

> the same as 1 % of 300. So you actually have to increase you

calories

> per day, slightly, every couple of weeks...

>

> Why? To keep your body from triggering a reduction in metabolic

rate as

> it strives to maintain the body mass it has.... The body has a VERY

> important job, to stay alive. If it senses that food is becoming

short

> and it's not getting enough, it will start to conserve to avoid

starving

> to death. By doing that small increase every couple of weeks (in my

case

> it's a whopping 25 calories per day) you keep it thinking that food

is in

> GREAT supply.

>

> Then every couple of months you up the calories a bit more, but not

above

> maintenance level for your then current weight... to trigger the

body

> into KNOWING that there is a surplus of food and it doesn't have to

> conserve (make fat). Then you drop down again to calorie reduced

level to

> continue weight loss.

>

> Mini meals do that trick thing too.... by eating every 3 hours,

never

> more than 4 hours, your body perceives that food is in great plenty

and

> it doesn't have to worry about monitoring the in and out of the

> calories... it just gets really frivolous about burning calories..

cuz

> that is soooo much easier.

>

> Turning what we eat to fat is a LOT of work, it can actually tire us

> out.. and having to turn fat back into calories that can be burned

as

> fuel is also a lot of work, again, tiring us out.. the trick is to

keep

> food coming in a steady supply to provide energy to burn.. but

slightly

> less than what is needed so that the body starts grabbing fat to

convert

> to energy to fill in what all those meals is just a weeee bit short

on...

>

>

> Skip a meal? Body gets nervous...

> ...ups the adrenal hormones (increasing the risk of adrenal fatigue

and

> decreasing the body's ability to utilize thyroid hormone),

> ...drops metabolic rate (lowered energy levels, fatigue... reduced

> conversion, less active thyroid hormone - more hypo)

>

> So with mini mealing... You eat as soon as you can in the morning..

that

> means right after meds if you are dosing sublingually, or after the

one

> hour mark if you swallow your dose. That's first meal. It should be

high

> in protein and be a balanced meal.

>

> From there.. it depends... my own preference is to keep all my meals

> about the same in volume/calorie content and just divide them out

during

> the day. If my meals are on the higher calorie side I will do five

a day,

> if they are on the lower calorie side I will do 7... whatever way it

> works out to reach my goal calories for the day.

>

> Now days, that's more challenging, for me, cuz I'm more restricted

in

> food choices...

>

> There are several ways to set up meals.... I started out for the

first

> few months with careful weighing and measuring.. until I got more

> accustomed to how things 'looked'... this much pasta is 100

calories...

> this much mashed potato is 100 calories... I just got used to

it.... As

> time has passed, for the type of foods that I eat... I'm pretty

much on

> target if I keep my meals to a volume of 1 to 1 1/2 cups per meal,

> depending on how calorie dense they are.

>

> If I want to have a sweet, like a piece of cake or donut, I do not

add it

> as a dessert to a meal, rather I make it a meal... the meal before

it

> will be higher in protein and slightly lowered in calories... then

I will

> have the donut as the next mini meal, and the mini meal following

it has

> to have a bit higher protein (than a normal meal) and be slightly

lowered

> in calories, again.

>

> This last year with having to drop my dose, then running out of

meds...

> my metabolism dropped... and along with the money crunch my food

choices

> also dropped.. I do a LOT of carbs.. rice and home made baked goods,

> mostly... and yet, even though I've not lost weight... I did NOT

gain...

> I consider that a remarkable thing.... to have gone hypo from lack

of

> meds and NOT gain over the course of a year is huge.. to me.

>

> Since I don't get a huge variety of foods I'm really fastidious

about

> taking vitamins.. splitting them so I can take some with EACH and

EVERY

> meal.. that increases the nutrient value of my meal even if it's a

rice

> and sauce meal or a donut meal....

>

> Meal choices... it varies soooo much... we all have different

tastes,

> live in different countries and regions, have different budgets,

have

> different food sensitivities.

>

> My personal thought is that you consider the foods that you like,

I'm not

> talking favorite junk foods.. but think of healthy foods that you

like...

> your choice of vegies, meats, carbs and starches... and consider

their

> caloric and nutrient value... determine your own daily caloric

needs to

> maintain, and to lose.. then from there play with how you can set up

> meals so that you can enjoy healthy foods that you like, and can

afford,

> in proportions and combinations that you will enjoy and actually

look

> forward to eating.

>

> Examples:

> I pig out for Thanksgiving and Christmas.... I'm here by myself for

the

> holidays.. but LOVE to cook, so go for as many dishes and as much

variety

> as I can. I eat alllll day long and get to eat everything I make...

I

> just don't have some of EVERYTHING at every meal... I break it

up....

>

> I have meat with just about every meal, that keeps protein content

up...

> we need extra protein... and then the rest gets mixed and

matched... with

> one meal I'll have turkey and mashed potatoes and gravy with some

vegie..

> the next meal I'll have a bite or so of turkey and some pie.. the

next

> meal might be turkey on fresh bread with some gravy on it or maybe a

> cheese sandwich... I get to eat like that all day long... every

three

> hours.... I just keep an eye out that I don't go over my Maintenance

> calories.... Maintenance calories is your healthy goal weight times

> 15.... so that you can eat like a piggy... and enjoy everything,

but not

> take in more calories for those few days of feasting that what your

body

> can use....

>

> ...and get this... if you do this right.. for the week or so after

the

> holiday feasting.. when you drop back down to the weight reduction

> calories... you tend to DROP weight a bit faster than before the

holiday

> feasting.... pretty much the opposite of what normally happens for

folks.

>

> If you love to cook, like me... or love to eat, like me...

sometimes you

> find yourself sitting down to a meal that is REALLY REALLY good and

you

> have your mini meal and look at what is still there and want MORE!

>

> Here's what I do... I put the food away, or set it up in my mini

meal

> containers to be more precise... And chant... I get to have more in

two

> hours... I get to have more in two hours..... actually it's

slightly more

> that two.. but I made my chant simple..... when I hit that next meal

> marker on the clock.. I get to have MORE!!! All within my eating

plan...

> without guilt... and not gain weight!!!

>

> ..... I literally get to have my cake... and eat it too!

>

> Another trick.. set up your meals in advance.. so that when it's

meal

> time you can go grab your meal on time and not have to stop and make

> something... if you have to make it and your tired, you might not

do it..

> and down goes your energy, your conversion.. everything.... when

you've

> eaten your last stashed meal it's time to get busy set up the next

batch

> of meals so that you have a meal ready for next meal time...

>

> If you are eating with your family, or friends, whatever, plan your

mini

> meals to work around that shared meal, to keep the shared meal also

at

> mini meal size...

>

> Oh my... I do get animated on this subject don't I??? I just go so

> fascinated when I started out and watching what it did for me....

>

> The fact that I was able to maintain and not gain, despite my drop

in

> dosage and my crappy food choices makes my truly belive that how

you set

> up the meals in relation to your body's needs and learning how to

utilize

> those foods that you have access to (and enjoy) is the best way to

go..

>

> It's soo important for our bodies to have food energy available

> consistently not only for hormone conversion, but to keep the

metabolic

> rate stimulated and not forced into shutting down to starvation

mode due

> to under eating.... It's VERY likely that a hypo can actually starve

> themselves fatter cuz of how our bodies aren't able to regulate all

the

> things that they used to....

>

> IMHO, of course.

>

> I'm gonna shut up now....

>

> If anyone got totally lost and wants to ask questions, cool... if

you

> think I'm nuts and want to throw tomatoes.... Please make them

ripe, not

> over ripe, and I'll get my catcher's mitt.... I LOVE tomatoes and

don't

> get them anymore!!!

>

> *wink*

>

> Topper ()

>

>

> On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:24:40 -0000 " ladybirdrobi "

> writes:

> > Hey all,

> > I love this group I get more info in one sitting of reading

my

> >

> > emails then I do anywhere else these days.

> > I must point out that though we have similarities because of

> > our

> > thyroid dysfunctioning we have alot of variables to consider as

> > well.

> > These variables make it hard to give advise to others on

this

> > group, each person asking for advise must consider these

variables:

> > 1. Geographical location the air we breathe effects how are

bodies

> >

> > work.

> > 2. Genetics we didn't all come from the same parents

> > 3. Indivisual bodies react differently to diets, vitamins and

> > supplements

> > 4. Diets themselves will differ

> > 5. Other disorders within our bodies

> > 6. Finally your heating sources are different as well and this

too

> >

> > effects you.

> > So consider all these variables because they do make a

> > difference in what works for one person and what works for

another.

> >

> > Sometimes we don't think about these variables because we get

hung

> > up

> > on the similarities that make us like one another because it

gives

> > us

> > a common ground to stand on.

> >

> > I have a question for those of you doing mini meals. I am

> > diabetic and told that I should do this as well but, every time I

> > have tried I feel like all I am doing all day is eating. So can

you

> >

> > give me a time frame like if you got up at 9:00 am. And is it

> > always

> > a light meal or is there any heavy meals but in smaller

portions.

> > So

> > I guess I need samples of what you eat as well.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Robin

>