Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 To the members of the Texas EMS List (and Doctors Racht and Margolis and Mr. Bishop): For the most part, I've remained silent about some of the constant grumbling about the National Registry testing process in Texas. However, as I have recently completed the intermediate portion of my paramedic class and continue my journey towards obtaining paramedic licensure in Texas, I can no longer remain silent. There appears to be a severe lack of NREMT advanced practical exam sites that are open to any student. I wanted to start planning ahead to find a practical exam location. Unfortunately, it would appear that the only option for me after completing my course (expected date of completion is early October) is a November or December exam in Abilene, approximately 200 miles away from Austin. The table created by the NREMT website is below for your reference: (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000091 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=057 & reglvl=I & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI 99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 5/5/2007 Palestine, TX Practical 4/14/2007 (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000245 & statecd=TX & sitecd=151 & reglvl=I & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & l evelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 5/10/2007 Pasadena, TX Practical 4/19/2007 (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000302 & statecd=TX & \ sitec d=083 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP= 1 & page=1 & secID=1) 5/11/2007 Hurst, TX Practical 4/20/2007 (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000156 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=129 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 5/17/2007 San , TX Practical 4/26/2007 (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000159 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=170 & reglvl=I & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & sec ID=1) 5/19/2007 Deer Park, TX Practical 4/28/2007 (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000283 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=071 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 5/19/2007 Amarillo, TX Practical 4/28/2007 (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001514 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=490 & reglvl=I & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 5/26/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 5/5/2007 (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000160 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=170 & reglvl=I & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & l evelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 6/2/2007 Deer Park, TX Practical 5/12/2007 (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000181 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=170 & reglvl=I & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR =1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 6/2/2007 Deer Park, TX Practical 5/12/2007 (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001561 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=059 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & lev elB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 6/9/2007 San , TX Practical 5/19/2007 (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001516 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=490 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB= 1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 6/23/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 6/2/2007 (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000182 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=170 & reglvl=I & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI 85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 7/21/2007 Deer Park, TX Practical 6/30/2007 (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_det ail.asp?id=2007000085 & statecd=TX & sitecd=020 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 8/2/2007 Dallas, TX Practical 7/12/2007 (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000179 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=245 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99= 0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 8/8/2007 Mineral Wells, TX Practical 7/18/2007 (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001562 & statecd=T X & sitecd=059 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 8/18/2007 San , TX Practical 7/28/2007 (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001518 & statecd=TX & \ s itecd=490 & reglvl=I & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & lev elP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 8/25/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 8/4/2007 (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000086 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=02 0 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & pa ge=1 & secID=1) 9/13/2007 Dallas, TX Practical 8/23/2007 (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001519 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=490 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & sec ID=1) 9/15/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 8/25/2007 (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001520 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=490 & reglvl=I & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 11/10/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 10/20/2007 (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001521 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=490 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6 /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 12/21/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 11/30/2007 I am very troubled that the capital city of Texas, with a metropolitan population of well over one million, does not have any open NREMT practical exams within a 100 mile radius after August 18. (There is a San exam site roughly 75 miles away.) I am not prone to conspiracy theories, but I do find it very coincidental that two of the three NR representatives for my area of Texas (Region 7) are both full-time faculty with the two college based programs in the area (Temple College and Austin Community College). I have been told before that both of these institutions regularly offer practical exams, but these exams are closed to all but their students. To me, when a regulatory or licensing entity grants one the authority to conduct examinations, a certain level of public service and interest is expected. I am exceedingly concerned that, on first impression, it would appear that the NR exam representatives for my region of Texas exist primarily for the benefit of their respective educational institutions. When a licensing entity creates scarcity, it has a special obligation to ensure that the opportunity to test is readily available, at least in major metropolitan areas. Such is the nature of public service, not private benefit. The National Registry has done a very good job of listening to our concerns as Maxie has relayed them. Let's continue to keep the dialogue going -- and let's make a commitment to ensure that every EMT-I and EMT-P has an equal opportunity to test. The multiple locations for Pearson VUE were a good start for the written/computer exam. It's time to make the same demand for practical examinations. I look forward to seeing how Texas DSHS, GETAC, and NREMT plan to address this very real issue. Respectfully, Wesley A. " Wes " Ogilvie, MPA, JD, EMT-B Attorney at Law/Emergency Medical Technician/Paramedic Student 8408 Mesa Doble Lane Austin, Texas 78759 (cellular) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 The simple solution to the problem is to have your " training institution " conduct an advanced level practical exam at the conclusion of its advanced courses. It is not a complicated process, its just time consuming, takes some pre-planning and requires some funding. Everything one needs to know to conduct an exam site is on the NR web site. At the role out of the NR in Texas all Coordinators were given the information on how to set up a practical exam site. So I don't see the problem being with DSHS, NR or GETAC, it rest on the shoulders of the Training entities. Just my .005 cents worth, Berry Ingram, EMT-P, NR-Rep _____ From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of ExLngHrn@... Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 8:30 PM To: texasems-l Cc: edward.racht@...; maxie.bishop@...; greggm@... Subject: NR Woes, Ad Infinitum To the members of the Texas EMS List (and Doctors Racht and Margolis and Mr. Bishop): For the most part, I've remained silent about some of the constant grumbling about the National Registry testing process in Texas. However, as I have recently completed the intermediate portion of my paramedic class and continue my journey towards obtaining paramedic licensure in Texas, I can no longer remain silent. There appears to be a severe lack of NREMT advanced practical exam sites that are open to any student. I wanted to start planning ahead to find a practical exam location. Unfortunately, it would appear that the only option for me after completing my course (expected date of completion is early October) is a November or December exam in Abilene, approximately 200 miles away from Austin. The table created by the NREMT website is below for your reference: (http://www.nremt. <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000091 & statecd =TX & sitecd=057> org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000091 & statecd=TX & sitecd=057 & reglvl=I & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate= 6/6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI 99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 5/5/2007 Palestine, TX Practical 4/14/2007 (http://www.nremt. <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000245 & statecd =TX> org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000245 & statecd=TX & sitecd=151 & reglvl=I & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate= 6/6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & l evelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 5/10/2007 Pasadena, TX Practical 4/19/2007 (http://www.nremt. <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000302 & statecd =TX & sitec> org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000302 & statecd=TX & sitec d=083 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate= 6/6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP= 1 & page=1 & secID=1) 5/11/2007 Hurst, TX Practical 4/20/2007 (http://www.nremt. <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000156 & statecd =TX & sitecd=129> org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000156 & statecd=TX & sitecd=129 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate= 6/6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 5/17/2007 San , TX Practical 4/26/2007 (http://www.nremt. <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000159 & statecd =TX & sitecd=170> org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000159 & statecd=TX & sitecd=170 & reglvl=I & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate= 6/6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & sec ID=1) 5/19/2007 Deer Park, TX Practical 4/28/2007 (http://www.nremt. <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000283 & statecd =TX & sitecd=071> org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000283 & statecd=TX & sitecd=071 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate= 6/6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 5/19/2007 Amarillo, TX Practical 4/28/2007 (http://www.nremt. <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001514 & statecd =TX & sitecd=490> org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001514 & statecd=TX & sitecd=490 & reglvl=I & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate= 6/ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 5/26/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 5/5/2007 (http://www.nremt. <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000160 & statecd =TX & sitecd=170> org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000160 & statecd=TX & sitecd=170 & reglvl=I & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate= 6/6/2079 & l evelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 6/2/2007 Deer Park, TX Practical 5/12/2007 (http://www.nremt. <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000181 & statecd =TX & sitecd=170> org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000181 & statecd=TX & sitecd=170 & reglvl=I & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate= 6/6/2079 & levelFR =1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 6/2/2007 Deer Park, TX Practical 5/12/2007 (http://www.nremt. <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001561 & statecd =TX & sitecd=059> org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001561 & statecd=TX & sitecd=059 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate= 6/6/2079 & levelFR=1 & lev elB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 6/9/2007 San , TX Practical 5/19/2007 (http://www.nremt. <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001516 & statecd =TX & sitecd=490> org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001516 & statecd=TX & sitecd=490 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate= 6/6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB= 1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 6/23/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 6/2/2007 (http://www.nremt. <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000182 & statecd =TX & sitecd=170> org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000182 & statecd=TX & sitecd=170 & reglvl=I & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate= 6/6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI 85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 7/21/2007 Deer Park, TX Practical 6/30/2007 (http://www.nremt. <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_det> org/EMTServices/cand_exam_det ail.asp?id=2007000085 & statecd=TX & sitecd=020 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate= 6/6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 8/2/2007 Dallas, TX Practical 7/12/2007 (http://www.nremt. <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000179 & statecd =TX & sitecd=245> org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000179 & statecd=TX & sitecd=245 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate= 6/6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99= 0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 8/8/2007 Mineral Wells, TX Practical 7/18/2007 (http://www.nremt. <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001562 & statecd =T> org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001562 & statecd=T X & sitecd=059 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate= 6/6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 8/18/2007 San , TX Practical 7/28/2007 (http://www.nremt. <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001518 & statecd =TX & s> org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001518 & statecd=TX & s itecd=490 & reglvl=I & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate= 6/6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & lev elP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 8/25/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 8/4/2007 (http://www.nremt. <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000086 & statecd =TX & sitecd=02> org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000086 & statecd=TX & sitecd=02 0 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate= 6/6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & pa ge=1 & secID=1) 9/13/2007 Dallas, TX Practical 8/23/2007 (http://www.nremt. <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001519 & statecd =TX & sitecd=490> org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001519 & statecd=TX & sitecd=490 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate= 6/6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & sec ID=1) 9/15/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 8/25/2007 (http://www.nremt. <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001520 & statecd =TX & sitecd=490> org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001520 & statecd=TX & sitecd=490 & reglvl=I & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate= 6/6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 11/10/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 10/20/2007 (http://www.nremt. <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001521 & statecd =TX & sitecd=490> org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001521 & statecd=TX & sitecd=490 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate= 6/6 /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 12/21/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 11/30/2007 I am very troubled that the capital city of Texas, with a metropolitan population of well over one million, does not have any open NREMT practical exams within a 100 mile radius after August 18. (There is a San exam site roughly 75 miles away.) I am not prone to conspiracy theories, but I do find it very coincidental that two of the three NR representatives for my area of Texas (Region 7) are both full-time faculty with the two college based programs in the area (Temple College and Austin Community College). I have been told before that both of these institutions regularly offer practical exams, but these exams are closed to all but their students. To me, when a regulatory or licensing entity grants one the authority to conduct examinations, a certain level of public service and interest is expected. I am exceedingly concerned that, on first impression, it would appear that the NR exam representatives for my region of Texas exist primarily for the benefit of their respective educational institutions. When a licensing entity creates scarcity, it has a special obligation to ensure that the opportunity to test is readily available, at least in major metropolitan areas. Such is the nature of public service, not private benefit. The National Registry has done a very good job of listening to our concerns as Maxie has relayed them. Let's continue to keep the dialogue going -- and let's make a commitment to ensure that every EMT-I and EMT-P has an equal opportunity to test. The multiple locations for Pearson VUE were a good start for the written/computer exam. It's time to make the same demand for practical examinations. I look forward to seeing how Texas DSHS, GETAC, and NREMT plan to address this very real issue. Respectfully, Wesley A. " Wes " Ogilvie, MPA, JD, EMT-B Attorney at Law/Emergency Medical Technician/Paramedic Student 8408 Mesa Doble Lane Austin, Texas 78759 (cellular) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol. <http://www.aol.com.> com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Wes, I believe that you are incorrect in some of your observations about National Registry skills testing. There are 30 National Registry Representatives in Texas. I can not speak for all 30 but I know that many of the representatives conduct examinations whenever called upon by the training centers. I personally have two examinatin sites which I will be conducting NR skills testing within the next two weeks, one in Mt. Pleasant and one in Longview. I know that Trinity Valley Community College plans a site on May 5 in Athens. I believe that if you contact the representatives as listed on the TDSHS website, you will find more examinations available than you are aware of at the present time. If I can be of any assistance to you, do not hesitate to call me. National Registry Representative Longview/Tyler and East Texas area > To the members of the Texas EMS List (and Doctors Racht and Margolis and Mr. > >Bishop): > > > >For the most part, I've remained silent about some of the constant grumbling > >about the National Registry testing process in Texas. However, as I have > >recently completed the intermediate portion of my paramedic class and continue > >my journey towards obtaining paramedic licensure in Texas, I can no longer > >remain silent. > > > >There appears to be a severe lack of NREMT advanced practical exam sites > >that are open to any student. I wanted to start planning ahead to find a > >practical exam location. Unfortunately, it would appear that the only option for me > >after completing my course (expected date of completion is early October) is > >a November or December exam in Abilene, approximately 200 miles away from > >Austin. The table created by the NREMT website is below for your reference: > > > > > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000091 & statecd=TX\ & sitecd=057 & reglvl=I > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI > >99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 5/5/2007 Palestine, TX Practical 4/14/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000245 & statecd=TX > > & sitecd=151 & reglvl=I > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & l > >evelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 5/10/2007 Pasadena, TX Practical 4/19/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000302 & statecd=TX\ & sitec > >d=083 & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP= > >1 & page=1 & secID=1) 5/11/2007 Hurst, TX Practical 4/20/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000156 & statecd=TX\ & sitecd=129 > > & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & > >secID=1) 5/17/2007 San , TX Practical 4/26/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000159 & statecd=TX\ & sitecd=170 > > & reglvl=I > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & sec > >ID=1) 5/19/2007 Deer Park, TX Practical 4/28/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000283 & statecd=TX\ & sitecd=071 > > & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > > 5/19/2007 Amarillo, TX Practical 4/28/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001514 & statecd=TX\ & sitecd=490 & reglvl=I > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/ > >6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > >5/26/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 5/5/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000160 & statecd=TX\ & sitecd=170 & reglvl=I > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & l > >evelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 6/2/2007 > >Deer Park, TX Practical 5/12/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000181 & statecd=TX\ & sitecd=170 & reglvl=I > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR > >=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 6/2/2007 Deer > >Park, TX Practical 5/12/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001561 & statecd=TX\ & sitecd=059 & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR=1 & lev > >elB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 6/9/2007 San , > >TX Practical 5/19/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001516 & statecd=TX\ & sitecd=490 & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB= > >1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 6/23/2007 Abilene, TX > >Practical 6/2/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000182 & statecd=TX\ & sitecd=170 & reglvl=I > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI > >85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 7/21/2007 Deer Park, TX Practical > >6/30/2007 (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_det > >ail.asp?id=2007000085 & statecd=TX & sitecd=020 & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & > >levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 8/2/2007 Dallas, TX Practical 7/12/2007 > > > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000179 & statecd=TX\ & sitecd=245 & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99= > >0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 8/8/2007 Mineral Wells, TX Practical 7/18/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001562 & statecd=T > >X & sitecd=059 & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & > >levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 8/18/2007 San , TX Practical 7/28/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001518 & statecd=TX\ & s > >itecd=490 & reglvl=I > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & lev > >elP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 8/25/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 8/4/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000086 & statecd=TX\ & sitecd=02 > >0 & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & pa > >ge=1 & secID=1) 9/13/2007 Dallas, TX Practical 8/23/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001519 & statecd=TX\ & sitecd=490 > > & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & sec > >ID=1) 9/15/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 8/25/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001520 & statecd=TX\ & sitecd=490 > > & reglvl=I > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > >11/10/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 10/20/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001521 & statecd=TX\ & sitecd=490 & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6 > >/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > >12/21/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 11/30/2007 > > > > > >I am very troubled that the capital city of Texas, with a metropolitan > >population of well over one million, does not have any open NREMT practical exams > >within a 100 mile radius after August 18. (There is a San exam site > >roughly 75 miles away.) I am not prone to conspiracy theories, but I do find > >it very coincidental that two of the three NR representatives for my area of > >Texas (Region 7) are both full-time faculty with the two college based > >programs in the area (Temple College and Austin Community College). I have been > >told before that both of these institutions regularly offer practical exams, but > >these exams are closed to all but their students. > > > >To me, when a regulatory or licensing entity grants one the authority to > >conduct examinations, a certain level of public service and interest is > >expected. I am exceedingly concerned that, on first impression, it would appear that > >the NR exam representatives for my region of Texas exist primarily for the > >benefit of their respective educational institutions. When a licensing entity > >creates scarcity, it has a special obligation to ensure that the opportunity > >to test is readily available, at least in major metropolitan areas. Such is > >the nature of public service, not private benefit. > > > >The National Registry has done a very good job of listening to our concerns > >as Maxie has relayed them. Let's continue to keep the dialogue going -- and > >let's make a commitment to ensure that every EMT-I and EMT-P has an equal > >opportunity to test. The multiple locations for Pearson VUE were a good start > >for the written/computer exam. It's time to make the same demand for > >practical examinations. > > > >I look forward to seeing how Texas DSHS, GETAC, and NREMT plan to address > >this very real issue. > > > >Respectfully, > >Wesley A. " Wes " Ogilvie, MPA, JD, EMT-B > >Attorney at Law/Emergency Medical Technician/Paramedic Student > >8408 Mesa Doble Lane > >Austin, Texas 78759 > > (cellular) > > > >************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Dudley, , and others: The two questions I have are: 1) Why are the test sites so poorly distributed throughout the state of Texas? There are huge swaths of Texas without a single test site within a hour drive (El Paso, the Big Bend, and anything south of San immediately come to mind.) 2) Why are so many NR reps affiliated with college programs and then conduct only closed exams? While I agree that it might not be a bad idea to require NR testing arrangements to be part of the state's course approval process, that is only a band-aid solution to the larger problem of a poor distribution of public test locations. NR still needs to address that issue -- and to do so aggressively for the good of ALL examinees, not just the ones affiliated with the " right " college programs. Respectfully, Wesley A. " Wes " Ogilvie, MPA, JD, EMT-B Attorney at Law/Emergency Medical Technician/Paramedic Student 8408 Mesa Doble Lane Austin, Texas 78759 (cellular) In a message dated 4/10/2007 12:14:13 AM Central Daylight Time, THEDUDMAN@... writes: , Thanks for your input...I seem to remember at the time this was implemented that the concern wasn't not enough test sites but people getting into this and taking advantage of students by charging exorbitant fees...I believe at the time a lot of emphasis was put on programs making sure they had this arranged for their students as a part of their advanced level programs... Maybe we need to look into making that a part of the programs that teach advanced levels...as a part of their course approval process they have to show arrangements to have skills testing already arranged with a National Registry Rep to prevent students such as Wes having to run around finding their own testing... It does seem to be a part of more regimented programs...such as large private education organizations and collegiate programs...maybe we need to require it as a pre-requisite of all Advanced Course Approvals. Dudley -----Original Message----- From: _raaems605@..._ (mailto:raaems605@...) To: _texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem_ (mailto:texasems-l ) ; _ExLngHrn@..._ (mailto:ExLngHrn@...) Cc: _edward.racht@..._ (mailto:edward.racht@...) ; _maxie.bishop@..._ (mailto:maxie.bishop@...) ; _greggm@..._ (mailto:greggm@...) Sent: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 10:38 PM Subject: Re: NR Woes, Ad Infinitum Wes, I believe that you are incorrect in some of your observations about National Registry skills testing. There are 30 National Registry Representatives in Texas. I can not speak for all 30 but I know that many of the representatives conduct examinations whenever called upon by the training centers. I personally have two examinatin sites which I will be conducting NR skills testing within the next two weeks, one in Mt. Pleasant and one in Longview. I know that Trinity Valley Community College plans a site on May 5 in Athens. I believe that if you contact the representatives as listed on the TDSHS website, you will find more examinations available than you are aware of at the present time. If I can be of any assistance to you, do not hesitate to call me. National Registry Representative Longview/Tyler and East Texas area > To the members of the Texas EMS List (and Doctors Racht and Margolis and Mr. > >Bishop): > > > >For the most part, I've remained silent about some of the constant grumbling > >about the National Registry testing process in Texas. However, as I have > >recently completed the intermediate portion of my paramedic class and continue > >my journey towards obtaining paramedic licensure in Texas, I can no longer > >remain silent. > > > >There appears to be a severe lack of NREMT advanced practical exam sites > >that are open to any student. I wanted to start planning ahead to find a > >practical exam location. Unfortunately, it would appear that the only option for me > >after completing my course (expected date of completion is early October) is > >a November or December exam in Abilene, approximately 200 miles away from > >Austin. The table created by the NREMT website is below for your reference: > > > > > >(_http://www.nremt.http://www.nremthttp://wwwhttp://www.http://www.nr & <WBR>st ate & <WBR>sitec_ (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000091 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=057) & reglvl=I > > & IsPostBack=I & region=re & city= & <WBR>ty & typeP=t & typeWP=t & EDate=1/EDate= & LDate=L Date=<W & <WBR>leve & <WBR>lev & <WBR>leve< & levelI > >99=0 & levelP=l & page=1 & <WBR>secID=1) 5/5/2007 Palestine, TX Practical 4/14/ > >(_http://www.nremt.http://www.nremthttp://wwwhttp://www.http://www.nr & <WBR>st ate_ (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000245 & statecd=TX) > > & sitecd=151 & reglvl=I > > & IsPostBack=I & region=re & city= & <WBR>ty & typeP=t & typeWP=t & EDate=1/EDate= & LDate=L Date=<W & <WBR>leve & <WBR>lev & <WBR>leve< & levelI99=l & l > >evelP=1 & page=p & secID=1) 5/10/2007 Pasadena, TX Practical 4/19/2007 > >(_http://www.nremt.http://www.nremthttp://wwwhttp://www.http://www.nr & <WBR>st ate & <WBR>_ (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000302 & statecd=TX & \ sitec) > >d=083 & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=I & region=gi & city= & <WBR>ty & typeP=t & typeWP=t & EDate=1/EDate= & LDate=L Date=<W & <WBR>leve & <WBR>lev & <WBR>leve< & levelI99=l & levelP= > >1 & page=1 & secID=secID=<WBR>1) 5/11/2007 Hurst, TX Practical > >(_http://www.nremt.http://www.nremthttp://wwwhttp://www.http://www.nr & <WBR>st ate & <WBR>sitec_ (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000156 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=129) > > & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=I & region=re & city= & <WBR>ty & typeP=t & typeWP=t & EDate=1/EDate= & LDate=L Date=<W & <WBR>leve & <WBR>lev & <WBR>leve< & levelI99=l & levelP=l & page=1 & > >secID=1) 5/17/2007 San , TX Practical 4/26/2007 > >(_http://www.nremt.http://www.nremthttp://wwwhttp://www.http://www.nr & <WBR>st ate & <WBR>sitec_ (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000159 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=170) > > & reglvl=I > > & IsPostBack=I & region=re & city= & <WBR>ty & typeP=t & typeWP=t & EDate=1/EDate= & LDate=L Date=<W & <WBR>leve & <WBR>lev & <WBR>leve< & levelI99=l & levelP=l & page=1 & <WB > >ID=1) 5/19/2007 Deer Park, TX Practical 4/28/2007 > >(_http://www.nremt.http://www.nremthttp://wwwhttp://www.http://www.nr & <WBR>st ate & <WBR>sitec_ (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000283 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=071) > > & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=I & region=re & city= & <WBR>ty & typeP=t & typeWP=t & EDate=1/EDate= & LDate=L Date=<W & <WBR>leve & <WBR>lev & <WBR>leve< & levelI99=l & levelP=l & page=1 & <WBR>sec > > 5/19/2007 Amarillo, TX Practical 4/28/2007 > >(_http://www.nremt.http://www.nremthttp://wwwhttp://www.http://www.nr & <WBR>st ate & <WBR>sitec_ (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001514 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=490) & reglvl=I > > & IsPostBack=I & region=re & city= & <WBR>ty & typeP=t & typeWP=t & EDate=1/EDate= & LDate=L D > >6/2079 & levelFR=l & levelB=l & levelI85=l & levelI99=l & levelP=l & page=1 & <WBR>secID=1) > >5/26/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 5/5/2007 > >(_http://www.nremt.http://www.nremthttp://wwwhttp://www.http://www.nr & <WBR>st ate & <WBR>sitec_ (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000160 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=170) & reglvl=I > > & IsPostBack=I & region=re & city= & <WBR>ty & typeP=t & typeWP=t & EDate=1/EDate= & LDate=L Date=<W & > >evelFR=1 & levelB=l & levelI85=l & levelI99=l & levelP=l & page=1 & <WBR>secID=1) 6/2/ > >Deer Park, TX Practical 5/12/2007 > >(_http://www.nremt.http://www.nremthttp://wwwhttp://www.http://www.nr & <WBR>st ate & <WBR>sitec_ (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000181 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=170) & reglvl=I > > & IsPostBack=I & region=re & city= & <WBR>ty & typeP=t & typeWP=t & EDate=1/EDate= & LDate=L Date=<W & <WBR>le > >=1 & levelB=1 & <WBR>leve< & levelI99=l & levelP=l & page=1 & <WBR>secID=1) 6/2/2007 > >Park, TX Practical 5/12/2007 > >(_http://www.nremt.http://www.nremthttp://wwwhttp://www.http://www.nr & <WBR>st ate & <WBR>sitec_ (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001561 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=059) & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=I & region=re & city= & <WBR>ty & typeP=t & typeWP=t & EDate=1/EDate= & LDate=L Date=<W & <WBR>leve & <WB > >elB=1 & levelI85=l & levelI99=l & levelP=l & page=1 & <WBR>secID=1) 6/9/2007 San Anto > >TX Practical 5/19/2007 > >(_http://www.nremt.http://www.nremthttp://wwwhttp://www.http://www.nr & <WBR>st ate & <WBR>sitec_ (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001516 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=490) & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=I & region=re & city= & <WBR>ty & typeP=t & typeWP=t & EDate=1/EDate= & LDate=L Date=<W & <WBR>leve & <WBR>le > >1 & levelI85=l & levelI99=l & levelP=l & page=1 & <WBR>secID=1) 6/23/2007 Abilene > >Practical 6/2/2007 > >(_http://www.nremt.http://www.nremthttp://wwwhttp://www.http://www.nr & <WBR>st ate & <WBR>sitec_ (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000182 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=170) & reglvl=I > > & IsPostBack=I & region=re & city= & <WBR>ty & typeP=t & typeWP=t & EDate=1/EDate= & LDate=L Date=<W & <WBR>leve & <WBR>lev & <WBR>l > >85=1 & levelI99=l & levelP=l & page=1 & <WBR>secID=1) 7/21/2007 Deer Park, TX Pract > >6/30/2007 (_http://www.nremt.http://www.nremthttp://wwwhtt_ (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_det) > >ail.asp?id=ail.asp?id & <WBR>state & <WBR>sitecd=020 & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=I & region=re & city= & <WBR>ty & typeP=t & typeWP=t & EDate=1/EDate= & LDate=L Date=<W & <WBR>leve & <WBR>lev & <WBR>leve< & > >levelI99=0 & <WBR>lev & <WBR>p & secID=secID=<WBR>1) 8/2/2007 Dallas, TX Practical > > > >(_http://www.nremt.http://www.nremthttp://wwwhttp://www.<WBR>id=20070 & <WBR>st ate & <WBR>sitec_ (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000179 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=245) & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=I & region=re & city= & <WBR>ty & typeP=t & typeWP=t & EDate=1/EDate= & LDate=L Date=<W & <WBR>leve & <WBR>lev & <WBR>leve< & levelI99= > >0 & levelP=1 & <WBR>p & secID=secID=<WBR>1) 8/8/2007 Mineral Wells, TX Practical > >(_http://www.nremt.http://www.nremthttp://wwwhttp://www.http://www.nr & <WBR>st at_ (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001562 & statecd=T) > >X & sitecd=059 & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=I & region=re & city= & <WBR>ty & typeP=t & typeWP=t & EDate=1/EDate= & LDate=L Date=<W & <WBR>leve & <WBR>lev & <WBR>leve< & levelI99=l & > >levelP=1 & page=p & secID=1) 8/18/2007 San , TX Practical 7/28/2007 > >(_http://www.nremt.http://www.nremthttp://wwwhttp://www.http://www.nr & <WBR>st ate & _ (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001518 & statecd=TX & \ s) > >itecd=490 & reglvl=I > > & IsPostBack=I & region=re & city= & <WBR>ty & typeP=t & typeWP=t & EDate=1/EDate= & LDate=L Date=<W & <WBR>leve & <WBR>lev & <WBR>leve< & levelI99=l & lev > >elP=1 & page=p & secID=1) 8/25/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 8/4/2007 > >(_http://www.nremt.http://www.nremthttp://wwwhttp://www.http://www.nr & <WBR>st ate & <WBR>site_ (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000086 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=02) > >0 & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=I & region=re & city= & <WBR>ty & typeP=t & typeWP=t & EDate=1/EDate= & LDate=L Date=<W & <WBR>leve & <WBR>lev & <WBR>leve< & levelI99=l & levelP=l & pa > >ge=1 & secID=secID=<WBR>1) 9/13/2007 Dallas, TX Practical > >(_http://www.nremt.http://www.nremthttp://wwwhttp://www.http://www.nr & <WBR>st ate & <WBR>sitec_ (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001519 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=490) > > & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=I & region=re & city= & <WBR>ty & typeP=t & typeWP=t & EDate=1/EDate= & LDate=L Date=<W & <WBR>leve & <WBR>lev & <WBR>leve< & levelI99=l & levelP=l & page=1 & <WB > >ID=1) 9/15/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 8/25/2007 > >(_http://www.nremt.http://www.nremthttp://wwwhttp://www.http://www.nr & <WBR>st ate & <WBR>sitec_ (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001520 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=490) > > & reglvl=I > > & IsPostBack=I & region=re & city= & <WBR>ty & typeP=t & typeWP=t & EDate=1/EDate= & LDate=L Date=<W & <WBR>leve & <WBR>lev & <WBR>leve< & levelI99=l & levelP=l & page=1 & <WBR>secID=1) > >11/10/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 10/20/2007 > >(_http://www.nremt.http://www.nremthttp://wwwhttp://www.http://www.nr & <WBR>st ate & <WBR>sitec_ (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001521 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=490) & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=I & region=re & city= & <WBR>ty & typeP=t & typeWP=t & EDate=1/EDate= & LDate=L Da > >/2079 & levelFR=l & levelB=l & levelI85=l & levelI99=l & levelP=l & page=1 & <WBR>secID=1) > >12/21/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 11/30/2007 > > > > > >I am very troubled that the capital city of Texas, with a metropolitan > >population of well over one million, does not have any open NREMT practical exams > >within a 100 mile radius after August 18. (There is a San exam site > >roughly 75 miles away.) I am not prone to conspiracy theories, but I do find > >it very coincidental that two of the three NR representatives for my area of > >Texas (Region 7) are both full-time faculty with the two college based > >programs in the area (Temple College and Austin Community College). I have been > >told before that both of these institutions regularly offer practical exams, but > >these exams are closed to all but their students. > > > >To me, when a regulatory or licensing entity grants one the authority to > >conduct examinations, a certain level of public service and interest is > >expected. I am exceedingly concerned that, on first impression, it would appear that > >the NR exam representatives for my region of Texas exist primarily for the > >benefit of their respective educational institutions. When a licensing entity > >creates scarcity, it has a special obligation to ensure that the opportunity > >to test is readily available, at least in major metropolitan areas. Such is > >the nature of public service, not private benefit. > > > >The National Registry has done a very good job of listening to our concerns > >as Maxie has relayed them. Let's continue to keep the dialogue going -- and > >let's make a commitment to ensure that every EMT-I and EMT-P has an equal > >opportunity to test. The multiple locations for Pearson VUE were a good start > >for the written/computer exam. It's time to make the same demand for > >practical examinations. > > > >I look forward to seeing how Texas DSHS, GETAC, and NREMT plan to address > >this very real issue. > > > >Respectfully, > >Wesley A. " Wes " Ogilvie, MPA, JD, EMT-B > >Attorney at Law/Emergency Medical Technician/ParamediAttorney > >8408 Mesa Doble Lane > >Austin, Texas 78759 > > (cellular) > > > >****************************************<WBR>*********<WBR>***_http://www.aol ..http_ (http://www.aol.com./) > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links _____________________________________<W_______<W_______<W_ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 , Thanks for your input...I seem to remember at the time this was implemented that the concern wasn't not enough test sites but people getting into this and taking advantage of students by charging exorbitant fees...I believe at the time a lot of emphasis was put on programs making sure they had this arranged for their students as a part of their advanced level programs... Maybe we need to look into making that a part of the programs that teach advanced levels...as a part of their course approval process they have to show arrangements to have skills testing already arranged with a National Registry Rep to prevent students such as Wes having to run around finding their own testing... It does seem to be a part of more regimented programs...such as large private education organizations and collegiate programs...maybe we need to require it as a pre-requisite of all Advanced Course Approvals. Dudley Re: NR Woes, Ad Infinitum Wes, I believe that you are incorrect in some of your observations about National Registry skills testing. There are 30 National Registry Representatives in Texas. I can not speak for all 30 but I know that many of the representatives conduct examinations whenever called upon by the training centers. I personally have two examinatin sites which I will be conducting NR skills testing within the next two weeks, one in Mt. Pleasant and one in Longview. I know that Trinity Valley Community College plans a site on May 5 in Athens. I believe that if you contact the representatives as listed on the TDSHS website, you will find more examinations available than you are aware of at the present time. If I can be of any assistance to you, do not hesitate to call me. National Registry Representative Longview/Tyler and East Texas area > To the members of the Texas EMS List (and Doctors Racht and Margolis and Mr. > >Bishop): > > > >For the most part, I've remained silent about some of the constant grumbling > >about the National Registry testing process in Texas. However, as I have > >recently completed the intermediate portion of my paramedic class and continue > >my journey towards obtaining paramedic licensure in Texas, I can no longer > >remain silent. > > > >There appears to be a severe lack of NREMT advanced practical exam sites > >that are open to any student. I wanted to start planning ahead to find a > >practical exam location. Unfortunately, it would appear that the only option for me > >after completing my course (expected date of completion is early October) is > >a November or December exam in Abilene, approximately 200 miles away from > >Austin. The table created by the NREMT website is below for your reference: > > > > > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000091 & statecd=TX\ & sitecd=057 & reglvl=I > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI > >99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 5/5/2007 Palestine, TX Practical 4/14/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000245 & statecd=TX > > & sitecd=151 & reglvl=I > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & l > >evelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 5/10/2007 Pasadena, TX Practical 4/19/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000302 & statecd=TX\ & sitec > >d=083 & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP= > >1 & page=1 & secID=1) 5/11/2007 Hurst, TX Practical 4/20/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000156 & statecd=TX\ & sitecd=129 > > & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & > >secID=1) 5/17/2007 San , TX Practical 4/26/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000159 & statecd=TX\ & sitecd=170 > > & reglvl=I > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & sec > >ID=1) 5/19/2007 Deer Park, TX Practical 4/28/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000283 & statecd=TX\ & sitecd=071 > > & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > > 5/19/2007 Amarillo, TX Practical 4/28/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001514 & statecd=TX\ & sitecd=490 & reglvl=I > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/ > >6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > >5/26/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 5/5/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000160 & statecd=TX\ & sitecd=170 & reglvl=I > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & l > >evelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 6/2/2007 > >Deer Park, TX Practical 5/12/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000181 & statecd=TX\ & sitecd=170 & reglvl=I > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR > >=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 6/2/2007 Deer > >Park, TX Practical 5/12/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001561 & statecd=TX\ & sitecd=059 & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR=1 & lev > >elB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 6/9/2007 San , > >TX Practical 5/19/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001516 & statecd=TX\ & sitecd=490 & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB= > >1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 6/23/2007 Abilene, TX > >Practical 6/2/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000182 & statecd=TX\ & sitecd=170 & reglvl=I > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI > >85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 7/21/2007 Deer Park, TX Practical > >6/30/2007 (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_det > >ail.asp?id=2007000085 & statecd=TX & sitecd=020 & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & > >levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 8/2/2007 Dallas, TX Practical 7/12/2007 > > > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000179 & statecd=TX\ & sitecd=245 & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99= > >0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 8/8/2007 Mineral Wells, TX Practical 7/18/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001562 & statecd=T > >X & sitecd=059 & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & > >levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 8/18/2007 San , TX Practical 7/28/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001518 & statecd=TX\ & s > >itecd=490 & reglvl=I > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & lev > >elP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 8/25/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 8/4/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000086 & statecd=TX\ & sitecd=02 > >0 & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & pa > >ge=1 & secID=1) 9/13/2007 Dallas, TX Practical 8/23/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001519 & statecd=TX\ & sitecd=490 > > & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & sec > >ID=1) 9/15/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 8/25/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001520 & statecd=TX\ & sitecd=490 > > & reglvl=I > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6\ /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > >11/10/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 10/20/2007 > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001521 & statecd=TX\ & sitecd=490 & reglvl=P > > & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6 > >/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > >12/21/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 11/30/2007 > > > > > >I am very troubled that the capital city of Texas, with a metropolitan > >population of well over one million, does not have any open NREMT practical exams > >within a 100 mile radius after August 18. (There is a San exam site > >roughly 75 miles away.) I am not prone to conspiracy theories, but I do find > >it very coincidental that two of the three NR representatives for my area of > >Texas (Region 7) are both full-time faculty with the two college based > >programs in the area (Temple College and Austin Community College). I have been > >told before that both of these institutions regularly offer practical exams, but > >these exams are closed to all but their students. > > > >To me, when a regulatory or licensing entity grants one the authority to > >conduct examinations, a certain level of public service and interest is > >expected. I am exceedingly concerned that, on first impression, it would appear that > >the NR exam representatives for my region of Texas exist primarily for the > >benefit of their respective educational institutions. When a licensing entity > >creates scarcity, it has a special obligation to ensure that the opportunity > >to test is readily available, at least in major metropolitan areas. Such is > >the nature of public service, not private benefit. > > > >The National Registry has done a very good job of listening to our concerns > >as Maxie has relayed them. Let's continue to keep the dialogue going -- and > >let's make a commitment to ensure that every EMT-I and EMT-P has an equal > >opportunity to test. The multiple locations for Pearson VUE were a good start > >for the written/computer exam. It's time to make the same demand for > >practical examinations. > > > >I look forward to seeing how Texas DSHS, GETAC, and NREMT plan to address > >this very real issue. > > > >Respectfully, > >Wesley A. " Wes " Ogilvie, MPA, JD, EMT-B > >Attorney at Law/Emergency Medical Technician/Paramedic Student > >8408 Mesa Doble Lane > >Austin, Texas 78759 > > (cellular) > > > >************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 Wes What about the school you took your EMT -I at? Will your coordinator not do an exam site? Exam sites don't just pop up it takes alot of people willing to come and use a day they have off. I try to have one at the end of my semesters if I can get enough instructors to pool together. I try to mostly have open test sites but because of not having enough examiners (that will not be here for free) its hard to test over 25 people for me here. at least. Eddie ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 Wes Not sure where you said you were from, but I keep hearing South Texas. Have you contacted Mr. Ceaser at South Texas College eddie ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 The EMS Managers and I discussed the NR Reps at our meeting last week. We want to make sure all of the Reps listed on the web page are offering the practical exams and we discussed replacing those Reps who are not testing. As I have asked you all many times if you are having issues please bring them to my attention. Thanks for your comments I will look into this issue and see what we can do to help you all out. om: ExLngHrn@... Sent: Mon 4/9/2007 8:29 PM To: texasems-l Cc: edward.racht@...; Bishop, Maxie; greggm@... Subject: NR Woes, Ad Infinitum To the members of the Texas EMS List (and Doctors Racht and Margolis and Mr. Bishop): For the most part, I've remained silent about some of the constant grumbling about the National Registry testing process in Texas. However, as I have recently completed the intermediate portion of my paramedic class and continue my journey towards obtaining paramedic licensure in Texas, I can no longer remain silent. There appears to be a severe lack of NREMT advanced practical exam sites that are open to any student. I wanted to start planning ahead to find a practical exam location. Unfortunately, it would appear that the only option for me after completing my course (expected date of completion is early October) is a November or December exam in Abilene, approximately 200 miles away from Austin. The table created by the NREMT website is below for your reference: edit <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000091 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=057 & reglvl=I & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1> 5/5/2007 Palestine, TX Practical 4/14/2007 edit <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000245 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=151 & reglvl=I & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1> 5/10/2007 Pasadena, TX Practical 4/19/2007 edit <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000302 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=083 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1> 5/11/2007 Hurst, TX Practical 4/20/2007 edit <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000156 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=129 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1> 5/17/2007 San , TX Practical 4/26/2007 edit <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000159 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=170 & reglvl=I & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1> 5/19/2007 Deer Park, TX Practical 4/28/2007 edit <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000283 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=071 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1> 5/19/2007 Amarillo, TX Practical 4/28/2007 edit <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001514 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=490 & reglvl=I & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1> 5/26/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 5/5/2007 edit <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000160 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=170 & reglvl=I & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1> 6/2/2007 Deer Park, TX Practical 5/12/2007 edit <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000181 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=170 & reglvl=I & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1> 6/2/2007 Deer Park, TX Practical 5/12/2007 edit <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001561 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=059 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1> 6/9/2007 San , TX Practical 5/19/2007 edit <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001516 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=490 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1> 6/23/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 6/2/2007 edit <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000182 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=170 & reglvl=I & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1> 7/21/2007 Deer Park, TX Practical 6/30/2007 edit <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000085 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=020 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1> 8/2/2007 Dallas, TX Practical 7/12/2007 edit <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000179 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=245 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1> 8/8/2007 Mineral Wells, TX Practical 7/18/2007 edit <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001562 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=059 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1> 8/18/2007 San , TX Practical 7/28/2007 edit <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001518 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=490 & reglvl=I & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1> 8/25/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 8/4/2007 edit <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000086 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=020 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1> 9/13/2007 Dallas, TX Practical 8/23/2007 edit <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001519 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=490 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1> 9/15/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 8/25/2007 edit <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001520 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=490 & reglvl=I & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1> 11/10/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 10/20/2007 edit <http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001521 & statecd=TX & \ sitecd=490 & reglvl=P & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6/\ 2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1> 12/21/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 11/30/2007 I am very troubled that the capital city of Texas, with a metropolitan population of well over one million, does not have any open NREMT practical exams within a 100 mile radius after August 18. (There is a San exam site roughly 75 miles away.) I am not prone to conspiracy theories, but I do find it very coincidental that two of the three NR representatives for my area of Texas (Region 7) are both full-time faculty with the two college based programs in the area (Temple College and Austin Community College). I have been told before that both of these institutions regularly offer practical exams, but these exams are closed to all but their students. To me, when a regulatory or licensing entity grants one the authority to conduct examinations, a certain level of public service and interest is expected. I am exceedingly concerned that, on first impression, it would appear that the NR exam representatives for my region of Texas exist primarily for the benefit of their respective educational institutions. When a licensing entity creates scarcity, it has a special obligation to ensure that the opportunity to test is readily available, at least in major metropolitan areas. Such is the nature of public service, not private benefit. The National Registry has done a very good job of listening to our concerns as Maxie has relayed them. Let's continue to keep the dialogue going -- and let's make a commitment to ensure that every EMT-I and EMT-P has an equal opportunity to test. The multiple locations for Pearson VUE were a good start for the written/computer exam. It's time to make the same demand for practical examinations. I look forward to seeing how Texas DSHS, GETAC, and NREMT plan to address this very real issue. Respectfully, Wesley A. " Wes " Ogilvie, MPA, JD, EMT-B Attorney at Law/Emergency Medical Technician/Paramedic Student 8408 Mesa Doble Lane Austin, Texas 78759 (cellular) ________________________________ See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 Maxie: Thanks as always for your prompt response. I would respectfully suggest that the issue also be expanded to address: 1) Closed versus open testing. I'm concerned that several of these NR Reps probably are offering tests, but ONLY to their programs. 2) Locations! There are several large metropolitan areas and quite a large area of Texas that don't seem to have any NR practical exams. Thanks again! -Wes Ogilvie NR Woes, Ad Infinitum To the members of the Texas EMS List (and Doctors Racht and Margolis and Mr. Bishop): For the most part, I've remained silent about some of the constant grumbling about the National Registry testing process in Texas. However, as I have recently completed the intermediate portion of my paramedic class and continue my journey towards obtaining paramedic licensure in Texas, I can no longer remain silent. There appears to be a severe lack of NREMT advanced practical exam sites that are open to any student. I wanted to start planning ahead to find a practical exam location. Unfortunately, it would appear that the only option for me after completing my course (expected date of completion is early October) is a November or December exam in Abilene, approximately 200 miles away from Austin. The table created by the NREMT website is below for your reference: 5/5/2007Palestine, TX Practical4/14/2007 5/10/2007Pasadena, TX Practical4/19/2007 5/11/2007Hurst, TX Practical4/20/2007 5/17/2007San , TX Practical4/26/2007 5/19/2007Deer Park, TX Practical4/28/2007 5/19/2007Amarillo, TX Practical4/28/2007 5/26/2007Abilene, TX Practical5/5/2007 6/2/2007Deer Park, TX Practical5/12/2007 6/2/2007Deer Park, TX Practical5/12/2007 6/9/2007San , TX Practical5/19/2007 6/23/2007Abilene, TX Practical6/2/2007 7/21/2007Deer Park, TX Practical6/30/2007 8/2/2007Dallas, TX Practical7/12/2007 8/8/2007Mineral Wells, TX Practical7/18/2007 8/18/2007San , TX Practical7/28/2007 8/25/2007Abilene, TX Practical8/4/2007 9/13/2007Dallas, TX Practical8/23/2007 9/15/2007Abilene, TX Practical8/25/2007 11/10/2007Abilene, TX Practical10/20/2007 12/21/2007Abilene, TX Practical11/30/2007 I am very troubled that the capital city of Texas, with a metropolitan population of well over one million, does not have any open NREMT practical exams within a 100 mile radius after August 18. (There is a San exam site roughly 75 miles away.) I am not prone to conspiracy theories, but I do find it very coincidental that two of the three NR representatives for my area of Texas (Region 7) are both full-time faculty with the two college based programs in the area (Temple College and Austin Community College). I have been told before that both of these institutions regularly offer practical exams, but these exams are closed to all but their students. To me, when a regulatory or licensing entity grants one the authority to conduct examinations, a certain level of public service and interest is expected. I am exceedingly concerned that, on first impression, it would appear that the NR exam representatives for my region of Texas exist primarily for the benefit of their respective educational institutions. When a licensing entity creates scarcity, it has a special obligation to ensure that the opportunity to test is readily available, at least in major metropolitan areas. Such is the nature of public service, not private benefit. The National Registry has done a very good job of listening to our concerns as Maxie has relayed them. Let's continue to keep the dialogue going -- and let's make a commitment to ensure that every EMT-I and EMT-P has an equal opportunity to test. The multiple locations for Pearson VUE were a good start for the written/computer exam. It's time to make the same demand for practical examinations. I look forward to seeing how Texas DSHS, GETAC, and NREMT plan to address this very real issue. Respectfully, Wesley A. " Wes " Ogilvie, MPA, JD, EMT-B Attorney at Law/Emergency Medical Technician/Paramedic Student 8408 Mesa Doble Lane Austin, Texas 78759 (cellular) See what's free at AOL.com. ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 I've yet to hear about an exam site for my class. Regardless, there does seem to be a problem with a lack of coverage -- and a problem with too many NR Reps basically running only closed exams for their respective programs. -Wes Ogilvie Re: NR Woes, Ad Infinitum Wes What about the school you took your EMT -I at? Will your coordinator not do an exam site? Exam sites don't just pop up it takes alot of people willing to come and use a day they have off. I try to have one at the end of my semesters if I can get enough instructors to pool together. I try to mostly have open test sites but because of not having enough examiners (that will not be here for free) its hard to test over 25 people for me here. at least. Eddie ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 OK folks, I'd like to make a few comments about the NR Reps and practical testing. 1. The NR Reps Wes refers to do not (usually) act as the NR Rep for their own program. They have a Rep come in to oversee the exam. So, if they close an exam, which is their right, they are doing it as the Program Director or Exam Coordinator and NOT as the NR Rep. 2. Having large metropolitan areas with severely limited practical exams is a shame. Practical exams are expensive: there are about 12 skills to complete, plus you need to figure in the cost of retests that may need to be done. To conduct it properly (to me anyway) 12 instructors are needed, plus someone to bring the skill sheets to the NR Rep, plus payment for the NR Rep, plus cost of salaries for staff/faculty that may be assisting in ways such as keeping track of what candidate has done what skill, etc. For some programs the cost isn't as much an issue as for others. I am willing to meet with all EMS Coordinators/Program Directors in the Austin/Central Texas area (San Marcos to Kerrville to Temple to College Station) to find a way to address this. More of us working together can get more done. Remember synergy? Let's set aside the territorial boundaries and come up with a solution for our students. If we don't no one else will. Eddie , EMT-P Director of Clinical Services 4100 Ed Bluestein Blvd., Suite 100 Austin, TX 78721 ext. 110 _____ From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of ExLngHrn@... Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 7:17 AM To: Maxie.Bishop@...; texasems-l Cc: edward.racht@...; greggm@... Subject: Re: NR Woes, Ad Infinitum Maxie: Thanks as always for your prompt response. I would respectfully suggest that the issue also be expanded to address: 1) Closed versus open testing. I'm concerned that several of these NR Reps probably are offering tests, but ONLY to their programs. 2) Locations! There are several large metropolitan areas and quite a large area of Texas that don't seem to have any NR practical exams. Thanks again! -Wes Ogilvie ----- .. <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=1015101/grpspId=1705061161/msgId =72067/stime=1176207537/nc1=1/nc2=2/nc3=3> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 Thanks Eddie -- not only for clearing up some confusion I had, but in stepping up to address the problem. -Wes Re: NR Woes, Ad Infinitum Maxie: Thanks as always for your prompt response. I would respectfully suggest that the issue also be expanded to address: 1) Closed versus open testing. I'm concerned that several of these NR Reps probably are offering tests, but ONLY to their programs. 2) Locations! There are several large metropolitan areas and quite a large area of Texas that don't seem to have any NR practical exams. Thanks again! -Wes Ogilvie ----- .. <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=1015101/grpspId=1705061161/msgId =72067/stime=1176207537/nc1=1/nc2=2/nc3=3> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 Austin here. I was mentioning that South and far West Texas are both lacking in practical exam sites as well as the Austin area. -Wes Ogilvie Re: NR Woes, Ad Infinitum Wes Not sure where you said you were from, but I keep hearing South Texas. Have you contacted Mr. Ceaser at South Texas College eddie ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 If a student has not received information from their instructor concerning the NR practical test I would suggest they talk to their class instructor/coordinator to find out if arrangements have been or will be made by that EMS program for the students to take the practical test. I need to know which programs are not making arrangements for their students to take the NR practical exam. Even if the program doesn't host the exam it would be nice of them to make the necessary arrangements with a NR Rep to test these students at another location. If this is not being done please let me know. Maxie Bishop, State EMS Director Office of EMS and Trauma Services Maxie.bishop@... ________________________________ From: exlnghrn@... Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 7:42 AM To: texasems-l Cc: edward.racht@...; Bishop, Maxie; greggm@... Subject: Re: NR Woes, Ad Infinitum I've yet to hear about an exam site for my class. Regardless, there does seem to be a problem with a lack of coverage -- and a problem with too many NR Reps basically running only closed exams for their respective programs. -Wes Ogilvie Re: NR Woes, Ad Infinitum Wes What about the school you took your EMT -I at? Will your coordinator not do an exam site? Exam sites don't just pop up it takes alot of people willing to come and use a day they have off. I try to have one at the end of my semesters if I can get enough instructors to pool together. I try to mostly have open test sites but because of not having enough examiners (that will not be here for free) its hard to test over 25 people for me here. at least. Eddie ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. <http://www.aol.com./> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 Wes, I cannot speak for any other National Representative. However, I feel that there are other Reps out there who would be willing to travel to conduct a NR skills testing session, if given enough advanced notice. I personally have only had one program out of the east Texas area call me to do a test. I was actually on vacation in Branson, Missouri when he called. I advised him I would not be able to make that test site due to being out of state and only 3 days notice. I would be willing to conduct a skills testing out of my area if I were given advanced notice and I am sure there are others who would also do it. I personally know a college program in East Texas who has never sponsored an exam. I feel that this is wrong. A program, in myh opinion, owes it to their students to host a test for those completing their program. Just my opinion. I feel resonably sure that Maxie will work out a solution to your problem. He is very good at answering questions and following up on them. He is not like the one GETAC Committee member who I sent an e-mail to and he did not have the courtesy to answer me. Maxie will answer your questions. Good luck in your future Paramedic test. National Registry Representative >Dudley, , and others: > >The two questions I have are: >1) Why are the test sites so poorly distributed throughout the state of >Texas? There are huge swaths of Texas without a single test site within >a hour drive (El Paso, the Big Bend, and anything south of San >immediately come to mind.) > >2) Why are so many NR reps affiliated with college programs and then >conduct only closed exams? > >While I agree that it might not be a bad idea to require NR testing >arrangements to be part of the state's course approval process, that is only a >band-aid solution to the larger problem of a poor distribution of public test >locations. NR still needs to address that issue -- and to do so >aggressively for the good of ALL examinees, not just the ones affiliated with >the " right " college programs. > > >Respectfully, >Wesley A. " Wes " Ogilvie, MPA, JD, EMT-B >Attorney at Law/Emergency Medical Technician/Paramedic Student >8408 Mesa Doble Lane >Austin, Texas 78759 > (cellular) > > > >In a message dated 4/10/2007 12:14:13 AM Central Daylight Time, >THEDUDMAN@... writes: > > > > > , > >Thanks for your input...I seem to remember at the time this > was implemented that the concern wasn't not enough test sites but people > getting into this and taking advantage of students by charging exorbitant > fees...I believe at the time a lot of emphasis was put on programs making sure > they had this arranged for their students as a part of their advanced level > programs... > >Maybe we need to look into making that a part of the > programs that teach advanced levels...as a part of their course approval > process they have to show arrangements to have skills testing already arranged > with a National Registry Rep to prevent students such as Wes having to run > around finding their own testing... > >It does seem to be a part of more > regimented programs...such as large private education organizations and > collegiate programs...maybe we need to require it as a pre-requisite of all > Advanced Course Approvals. > >Dudley > > >-----Original > Message----- >From: raaems605@... >To: texasems-l ; > ExLngHrn@... >Cc: edward.racht@...; > maxie.bishop@...; > greggm@... >Sent: Mon, 9 Apr > 2007 10:38 PM >Subject: Re: NR Woes, Ad > Infinitum > >Wes, > >I believe that you are incorrect in some of your > observations about National >Registry skills testing. There are 30 National > Registry Representatives in >Texas. I can >not speak for all 30 but I > know that many of the representatives conduct >examinations whenever called > upon by the training centers. I personally have >two examinatin >sites > which I will be conducting NR skills testing within the next two weeks, > >one in Mt. Pleasant and one in Longview. I know that Trinity Valley > Community >College >plans a site on May 5 in Athens. I believe that if > you contact the >representatives as listed on the TDSHS website, you will > find more examinations >available than you >are aware of at the present > time. > >If I can be of any assistance to you, do not hesitate to call > me. > > >National Registry Representative >Longview/Tyler > and East Texas area > >> To the members of the Texas EMS List (and > Doctors Racht and >Margolis and Mr. > >> >>Bishop): >> >> >> >>For the most part, > I've remained silent about some of the constant grumbling > >> >>about the National Registry testing process in Texas. However, > as I have >> >>recently completed the intermediate portion of my > paramedic class and continue > >> >>my journey towards obtaining > paramedic licensure in Texas, I can no longer >> >>remain > silent. >> >> >> >>There appears to be a severe lack of > NREMT advanced practical exam sites >> >>that are open to any > student. I wanted to start planning ahead to find a >> >>practical > exam location. Unfortunately, it would appear that the only option >for me > >> >>after completing my course (expected date of completion is > early October) is >> >>a November or December exam in Abilene, > approximately 200 miles away from >> >>Austin. The table created by > the NREMT website is below for your reference: >> >> > >> >> >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000091 & statecd=T\ X & sitecd=057 > > & reglvl=I > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI >> >>99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > 5/5/2007 Palestine, TX Practical 4/14/2007 >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000245 & statecd=T\ X >> >> & sitecd=151 > & reglvl=I > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & l >> >>evelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > 5/10/2007 Pasadena, TX Practical 4/19/2007 >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000302 & statecd=T\ X & sitec >> >>d=083 > & reglvl=P > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP= >> >>1 & page=1 & secID=1) > 5/11/2007 Hurst, TX Practical 4/20/2007 >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000156 & statecd=T\ X & sitecd=129 > > >> >> & reglvl=P > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & >> >>secID=1) > 5/17/2007 San , TX Practical 4/26/2007 >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000159 & statecd=T\ X & sitecd=170 > > >> >> & reglvl=I > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & sec >> >>ID=1) > 5/19/2007 Deer Park, TX Practical 4/28/2007 >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000283 & statecd=T\ X & sitecd=071 > > >> >> & reglvl=P > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) >> >> > 5/19/2007 Amarillo, TX Practical 4/28/2007 >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001514 & statecd=T\ X & sitecd=490 > > & reglvl=I > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/ >> >>6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > >> >>5/26/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 5/5/2007 >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000160 & statecd=T\ X & sitecd=170 > > & reglvl=I > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & l >> >>evelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > 6/2/2007 >> >>Deer Park, TX Practical 5/12/2007 >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000181 & statecd=T\ X & sitecd=170 > > & reglvl=I > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR >> >>=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > 6/2/2007 Deer >> >>Park, TX Practical 5/12/2007 >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001561 & statecd=T\ X & sitecd=059 > > & reglvl=P > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & lev >> >>elB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > 6/9/2007 San , >> >>TX Practical 5/19/2007 > >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001516 & statecd=T\ X & sitecd=490 > > & reglvl=P > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB= >> >>1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > 6/23/2007 Abilene, TX >> >>Practical 6/2/2007 >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000182 & statecd=T\ X & sitecd=170 > > & reglvl=I > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI >> >>85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > 7/21/2007 Deer Park, TX Practical >> >>6/30/2007 (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_det >> >>ail.asp?id=2007000085 & statecd=TX & sitecd=020 > & reglvl=P > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & >> >>levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > 8/2/2007 Dallas, TX Practical 7/12/2007 >> >> >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000179 & statecd=T\ X & sitecd=245 > > & reglvl=P > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99= >> >>0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > 8/8/2007 Mineral Wells, TX Practical 7/18/2007 >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001562 & statecd=T >> >>X & sitecd=059 > & reglvl=P > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & >> >>levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > 8/18/2007 San , TX Practical 7/28/2007 >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001518 & statecd=T\ X & s >> >>itecd=490 > & reglvl=I > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & lev >> >>elP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > 8/25/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 8/4/2007 >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000086 & statecd=T\ X & sitecd=02 >> >>0 > & reglvl=P > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & pa >> >>ge=1 & secID=1) > 9/13/2007 Dallas, TX Practical 8/23/2007 >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001519 & statecd=T\ X & sitecd=490 > > >> >> & reglvl=P > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & sec >> >>ID=1) > 9/15/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 8/25/2007 >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001520 & statecd=T\ X & sitecd=490 > > >> >> & reglvl=I > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > > >> >>11/10/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 10/20/2007 > >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001521 & statecd=T\ X & sitecd=490 > > & reglvl=P > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6 >> >>/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > >> >>12/21/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 11/30/2007 >> >> > >> >> >> >>I am very troubled that the capital city of > Texas, with a metropolitan >> >>population of well over one > million, does not have any open NREMT practical >exams > >> >>within a 100 mile radius after August 18. (There is a San > exam site >> >>roughly 75 miles away.) I am not prone to > conspiracy theories, but I do find >> >>it very coincidental that > two of the three NR representatives for my area of >> >>Texas > (Region 7) are both full-time faculty with the two college based > >> >>programs in the area (Temple College and Austin Community > College). I have >been >> >>told before that both of these > institutions regularly offer practical exams, >but >> >>these > exams are closed to all but their students. >> >> >> >>To > me, when a regulatory or licensing entity grants one the authority to > >> >>conduct examinations, a certain level of public service and > interest is >> >>expected. I am exceedingly concerned that, on > first impression, it would >appear that >> >>the NR exam > representatives for my region of Texas exist primarily for the > >> >>benefit of their respective educational institutions. When a > licensing entity >> >>creates scarcity, it has a special obligation > to ensure that the opportunity >> >>to test is readily available, > at least in major metropolitan areas. Such is >> >>the nature of > public service, not private benefit. >> >> >> >>The > National Registry has done a very good job of listening to our concerns > >> >>as Maxie has relayed them. Let's continue to keep the dialogue > going -- and >> >>let's make a commitment to ensure that every > EMT-I and EMT-P has an equal >> >>opportunity to test. The multiple > locations for Pearson VUE were a good start > >> >>for the > written/computer exam. It's time to make the same demand for > >> >>practical examinations. >> >> >> >>I look > forward to seeing how Texas DSHS, GETAC, and NREMT plan to address > >> >>this very real issue. >> >> > >> >>Respectfully, >> >>Wesley A. " Wes " Ogilvie, MPA, JD, > EMT-B >> >>Attorney at Law/Emergency Medical > Technician/Paramedic Student >> >>8408 Mesa Doble > Lane >> >>Austin, Texas 78759 >> >> > (cellular) >> >> >> >>************************************** > See what's free at http://www.aol.com. >> >> >> >>[Non-text > portions of this message have been > removed] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >Yahoo! > Groups > Links > >__________________________________________________________ >AOL > now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > AOL.com. > >[Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > >See what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 I know there are several locations across the state that seem to be doing like we do and hosting regular exams to accomodate students from all programs who do not have a site. We have one Intermediate level practical and one Paramedic leve practical each quarter in Abilene and pick up students from across the state and from other states. We can even hold them more often if a group is graduating and has enough students to pay for a test upon request. Jane Hill TechPro Services, Inc. --------- Re: NR Woes, Ad Infinitum Wes What about the school you took your EMT -I at? Will your coordinator not do an exam site? Exam sites don't just pop up it takes alot of people willing to come and use a day they have off. I try to have one at the end of my semesters if I can get enough instructors to pool together. I try to mostly have open test sites but because of not having enough examiners (that will not be here for free) its hard to test over 25 people for me here. at least. Eddie ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. <http://www.aol.com./> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 I have offered NR Exams here in College Station for the last 4 years. We have been able to host up to 65 students and the exam went very well. We have always opened the exams to outside students and even had students come from out of State to take the exam. The last exam we had less than 25 students take the exam. The problem that I see is the expense involved to the student. We had to more than double our cost when the written exam went away. My staff and I are willing to travel to help administer the exams, again the problem is expense. I am currently scheduling exams for June 2, August 11, October 13, & December 15th. We have to schedule around the availability of our NR Rep and available hotel space in College Station. We have a very difficult time during football season because the is no place for out of town students to stay. I would be very open to other NR reps coming in and filling in some of the other dates we have available. I do think that there are large areas of the state that do not have the exams due to what it cost them. I also would be open to talking to anyone anywhere in the state that would like to host an exam. I feel like we can offer this anywhere they would like to do the exam. The problem is always, is there a NR rep available and are the students willing to pay what it will cost to make the exam happen. I also am very open to the meeting Eddie suggested. >>> 4/10/2007 10:26 AM >>> Wes, I cannot speak for any other National Representative. However, I feel that there are other Reps out there who would be willing to travel to conduct a NR skills testing session, if given enough advanced notice. I personally have only had one program out of the east Texas area call me to do a test. I was actually on vacation in Branson, Missouri when he called. I advised him I would not be able to make that test site due to being out of state and only 3 days notice. I would be willing to conduct a skills testing out of my area if I were given advanced notice and I am sure there are others who would also do it. I personally know a college program in East Texas who has never sponsored an exam. I feel that this is wrong. A program, in myh opinion, owes it to their students to host a test for those completing their program. Just my opinion. I feel resonably sure that Maxie will work out a solution to your problem. He is very good at answering questions and following up on them. He is not like the one GETAC Committee member who I sent an e-mail to and he did not have the courtesy to answer me. Maxie will answer your questions. Good luck in your future Paramedic test. National Registry Representative >Dudley, , and others: >*á >The two questions I have are: >1) Why are the test sites so poorly distributed throughout the state of >Texas?*á There are huge swaths of Texas without a single test site within >a*áhour drive (El Paso, the Big Bend, and anything south of San >immediately come to mind.) >*á >2) Why are so many NR reps affiliated with college programs and then >conduct only closed exams? >*á >While I agree that it might not be a bad idea to require NR testing >arrangements to be part of the state's course approval process, that is only a >band-aid solution to the larger problem of a poor distribution of public test >locations.*á NR still needs to address that issue -- and to do so >aggressively for the good of ALL examinees, not just the ones affiliated with >the " right " college programs. >*á > >Respectfully, >Wesley A. " Wes " Ogilvie, MPA, JD, EMT-B >Attorney at Law/Emergency Medical Technician/Paramedic Student >8408 Mesa Doble Lane >Austin, Texas 78759 > (cellular) >*á >*á >*á >In a message dated 4/10/2007 12:14:13 AM Central Daylight Time, >THEDUDMAN@... writes: > > > > > , > >Thanks for your input...I seem to remember at the time this > was implemented that the concern wasn't not enough test sites but people > getting into this and taking advantage of students by charging exorbitant > fees...I believe at the time a lot of emphasis was put on programs making sure > they had this arranged for their students as a part of their advanced level > programs... > >Maybe we need to look into making that a part of the > programs that teach advanced levels...as a part of their course approval > process they have to show arrangements to have skills testing already arranged > with a National Registry Rep to prevent students such as Wes having to run > around finding their own testing... > >It does seem to be a part of more > regimented programs...such as large private education organizations and > collegiate programs...maybe we need to require it as a pre-requisite of all > Advanced Course Approvals. > >Dudley > > >-----Original > Message----- >From: raaems605@... >To: texasems-l ; > ExLngHrn@... >Cc: edward.racht@...; > maxie.bishop@...; > greggm@... >Sent: Mon, 9 Apr > 2007 10:38 PM >Subject: Re: NR Woes, Ad > Infinitum > >Wes, > >I believe that you are incorrect in some of your > observations about National >Registry skills testing. There are 30 National > Registry Representatives in >Texas. I can >not speak for all 30 but I > know that many of the representatives conduct >examinations whenever called > upon by the training centers. I personally have >two examinatin >sites > which I will be conducting NR skills testing within the next two weeks, > >one in Mt. Pleasant and one in Longview. I know that Trinity Valley > Community >College >plans a site on May 5 in Athens. I believe that if > you contact the >representatives as listed on the TDSHS website, you will > find more examinations >available than you >are aware of at the present > time. > >If I can be of any assistance to you, do not hesitate to call > me. > > >National Registry Representative >Longview/Tyler > and East Texas area > >> To the members of the Texas EMS List (and > Doctors Racht and >Margolis and Mr. > >> >>Bishop): >> >> >> >>For the most part, > I've remained silent about some of the constant grumbling > >> >>about the National Registry testing process in Texas. However, > as I have >> >>recently completed the intermediate portion of my > paramedic class and continue > >> >>my journey towards obtaining > paramedic licensure in Texas, I can no longer >> >>remain > silent. >> >> >> >>There appears to be a severe lack of > NREMT advanced practical exam sites >> >>that are open to any > student. I wanted to start planning ahead to find a >> >>practical > exam location. Unfortunately, it would appear that the only option >for me > >> >>after completing my course (expected date of completion is > early October) is >> >>a November or December exam in Abilene, > approximately 200 miles away from >> >>Austin. The table created by > the NREMT website is below for your reference: >> >> > >> >> >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000091 & statecd=T\ X & sitecd=057 > > & reglvl=I > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI >> >>99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > 5/5/2007 Palestine, TX Practical 4/14/2007 >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000245 & statecd=T\ X >> >> & sitecd=151 > & reglvl=I > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & l >> >>evelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > 5/10/2007 Pasadena, TX Practical 4/19/2007 >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000302 & statecd=T\ X & sitec >> >>d=083 > & reglvl=P > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP= >> >>1 & page=1 & secID=1) > 5/11/2007 Hurst, TX Practical 4/20/2007 >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000156 & statecd=T\ X & sitecd=129 > > >> >> & reglvl=P > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & >> >>secID=1) > 5/17/2007 San , TX Practical 4/26/2007 >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000159 & statecd=T\ X & sitecd=170 > > >> >> & reglvl=I > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & sec >> >>ID=1) > 5/19/2007 Deer Park, TX Practical 4/28/2007 >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000283 & statecd=T\ X & sitecd=071 > > >> >> & reglvl=P > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) >> >> > 5/19/2007 Amarillo, TX Practical 4/28/2007 >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001514 & statecd=T\ X & sitecd=490 > > & reglvl=I > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/ >> >>6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > >> >>5/26/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 5/5/2007 >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000160 & statecd=T\ X & sitecd=170 > > & reglvl=I > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & l >> >>evelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > 6/2/2007 >> >>Deer Park, TX Practical 5/12/2007 >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000181 & statecd=T\ X & sitecd=170 > > & reglvl=I > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR >> >>=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > 6/2/2007 Deer >> >>Park, TX Practical 5/12/2007 >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001561 & statecd=T\ X & sitecd=059 > > & reglvl=P > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & lev >> >>elB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > 6/9/2007 San , >> >>TX Practical 5/19/2007 > >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001516 & statecd=T\ X & sitecd=490 > > & reglvl=P > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB= >> >>1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > 6/23/2007 Abilene, TX >> >>Practical 6/2/2007 >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000182 & statecd=T\ X & sitecd=170 > > & reglvl=I > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI >> >>85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > 7/21/2007 Deer Park, TX Practical >> >>6/30/2007 (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_det >> >>ail.asp?id=2007000085 & statecd=TX & sitecd=020 > & reglvl=P > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & >> >>levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > 8/2/2007 Dallas, TX Practical 7/12/2007 >> >> >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000179 & statecd=T\ X & sitecd=245 > > & reglvl=P > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99= >> >>0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > 8/8/2007 Mineral Wells, TX Practical 7/18/2007 >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001562 & statecd=T >> >>X & sitecd=059 > & reglvl=P > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & >> >>levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > 8/18/2007 San , TX Practical 7/28/2007 >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001518 & statecd=T\ X & s >> >>itecd=490 > & reglvl=I > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & lev >> >>elP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > 8/25/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 8/4/2007 >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000086 & statecd=T\ X & sitecd=02 >> >>0 > & reglvl=P > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & pa >> >>ge=1 & secID=1) > 9/13/2007 Dallas, TX Practical 8/23/2007 >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001519 & statecd=T\ X & sitecd=490 > > >> >> & reglvl=P > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & sec >> >>ID=1) > 9/15/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 8/25/2007 >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001520 & statecd=T\ X & sitecd=490 > > >> >> & reglvl=I > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > > >> >>11/10/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 10/20/2007 > >> >>(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001521 & statecd=T\ X & sitecd=490 > > & reglvl=P > >> >> & IsPostBack=1 & region=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/\ 6 >> >>/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > >> >>12/21/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 11/30/2007 >> >> > >> >> >> >>I am very troubled that the capital city of > Texas, with a metropolitan >> >>population of well over one > million, does not have any open NREMT practical >exams > >> >>within a 100 mile radius after August 18. (There is a San > exam site >> >>roughly 75 miles away.) I am not prone to > conspiracy theories, but I do find >> >>it very coincidental that > two of the three NR representatives for my area of >> >>Texas > (Region 7) are both full-time faculty with the two college based > >> >>programs in the area (Temple College and Austin Community > College). I have >been >> >>told before that both of these > institutions regularly offer practical exams, >but >> >>these > exams are closed to all but their students. >> >> >> >>To > me, when a regulatory or licensing entity grants one the authority to > >> >>conduct examinations, a certain level of public service and > interest is >> >>expected. I am exceedingly concerned that, on > first impression, it would >appear that >> >>the NR exam > representatives for my region of Texas exist primarily for the > >> >>benefit of their respective educational institutions. When a > licensing entity >> >>creates scarcity, it has a special obligation > to ensure that the opportunity >> >>to test is readily available, > at least in major metropolitan areas. Such is >> >>the nature of > public service, not private benefit. >> >> >> >>The > National Registry has done a very good job of listening to our concerns > >> >>as Maxie has relayed them. Let's continue to keep the dialogue > going -- and >> >>let's make a commitment to ensure that every > EMT-I and EMT-P has an equal >> >>opportunity to test. The multiple > locations for Pearson VUE were a good start > >> >>for the > written/computer exam. It's time to make the same demand for > >> >>practical examinations. >> >> >> >>I look > forward to seeing how Texas DSHS, GETAC, and NREMT plan to address > >> >>this very real issue. >> >> > >> >>Respectfully, >> >>Wesley A. " Wes " Ogilvie, MPA, JD, > EMT-B >> >>Attorney at Law/Emergency Medical > Technician/Paramedic Student >> >>8408 Mesa Doble > Lane >> >>Austin, Texas 78759 >> >> > (cellular) >> >> >> >>************************************** > See what's free at http://www.aol.com. >> >> >> >>[Non-text > portions of this message have been > removed] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >Yahoo! > Groups > Links > >__________________________________________________________ >AOL > now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > AOL.com. > >[Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > >*á > > >See what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 I agree with , Wes. I used to get calls to rep exams occasionally for other programs and classes, but I personally have not heard from anyone in anothe program to request that I rep a test in a long time. Jane Hill -------------- Original message from : -------------- > Wes, > > I believe that you are incorrect in some of your observations about National > Registry skills testing. There are 30 National Registry Representatives in > Texas. I can > not speak for all 30 but I know that many of the representatives conduct > examinations whenever called upon by the training centers. I personally have > two examinatin > sites which I will be conducting NR skills testing within the next two weeks, > one in Mt. Pleasant and one in Longview. I know that Trinity Valley Community > College > plans a site on May 5 in Athens. I believe that if you contact the > representatives as listed on the TDSHS website, you will find more examinations > available than you > are aware of at the present time. > > If I can be of any assistance to you, do not hesitate to call me. > > > National Registry Representative > Longview/Tyler and East Texas area > > > To the members of the Texas EMS List (and Doctors Racht and > Margolis and Mr. > > > >Bishop): > > > > > > > >For the most part, I've remained silent about some of the constant grumbling > > > >about the National Registry testing process in Texas. However, as I have > > > >recently completed the intermediate portion of my paramedic class and continue > > > >my journey towards obtaining paramedic licensure in Texas, I can no longer > > > >remain silent. > > > > > > > >There appears to be a severe lack of NREMT advanced practical exam sites > > > >that are open to any student. I wanted to start planning ahead to find a > > > >practical exam location. Unfortunately, it would appear that the only option > for me > > > >after completing my course (expected date of completion is early October) is > > > >a November or December exam in Abilene, approximately 200 miles away from > > > >Austin. The table created by the NREMT website is below for your reference: > > > > > > > > > > > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000091 & statecd=TX > & sitecd=057 ®lvl=I > > > > & IsPostBack=1®ion=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6 > /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI > > > >99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 5/5/2007 Palestine, TX Practical 4/14/2007 > > > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000245 & statecd=TX > > > > & sitecd=151 ®lvl=I > > > > & IsPostBack=1®ion=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6 > /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & l > > > >evelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 5/10/2007 Pasadena, TX Practical 4/19/2007 > > > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000302 & statecd=TX > & sitec > > > >d=083 ®lvl=P > > > > & IsPostBack=1®ion=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6 > /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP= > > > >1 & page=1 & secID=1) 5/11/2007 Hurst, TX Practical 4/20/2007 > > > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000156 & statecd=TX > & sitecd=129 > > > > ®lvl=P > > > > & IsPostBack=1®ion=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6 > /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & > > > >secID=1) 5/17/2007 San , TX Practical 4/26/2007 > > > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000159 & statecd=TX > & sitecd=170 > > > >®lvl=I > > > > & IsPostBack=1®ion=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6 > /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & sec > > > >ID=1) 5/19/2007 Deer Park, TX Practical 4/28/2007 > > > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000283 & statecd=TX > & sitecd=071 > > > >®lvl=P > > > > & IsPostBack=1®ion=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6 > /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > > > > 5/19/2007 Amarillo, TX Practical 4/28/2007 > > > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001514 & statecd=TX > & sitecd=490 ®lvl=I > > > > & IsPostBack=1®ion=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/ > > > >6/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > > > >5/26/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 5/5/2007 > > > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000160 & statecd=TX > & sitecd=170 ®lvl=I > > > > & IsPostBack=1®ion=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6 > /2079 & l > > > >evelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 6/2/2007 > > > >Deer Park, TX Practical 5/12/2007 > > > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000181 & statecd=TX > & sitecd=170 ®lvl=I > > > > & IsPostBack=1®ion=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6 > /2079 & levelFR > > > >=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 6/2/2007 Deer > > > >Park, TX Practical 5/12/2007 > > > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001561 & statecd=TX > & sitecd=059 ®lvl=P > > > > & IsPostBack=1®ion=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6 > /2079 & levelFR=1 & lev > > > >elB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 6/9/2007 San , > > > >TX Practical 5/19/2007 > > > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001516 & statecd=TX > & sitecd=490 ®lvl=P > > > > & IsPostBack=1®ion=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6 > /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB= > > > >1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 6/23/2007 Abilene, TX > > > >Practical 6/2/2007 > > > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000182 & statecd=TX > & sitecd=170 ®lvl=I > > > > & IsPostBack=1®ion=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6 > /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI > > > >85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 7/21/2007 Deer Park, TX Practical > > > >6/30/2007 (http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_det > > > >ail.asp?id=2007000085 & statecd=TX & sitecd=020 ®lvl=P > > > > & IsPostBack=1®ion=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6 > /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & > > > >levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 8/2/2007 Dallas, TX Practical 7/12/2007 > > > > > > > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000179 & statecd=TX > & sitecd=245 ®lvl=P > > > > & IsPostBack=1®ion=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6 > /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99= > > > >0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 8/8/2007 Mineral Wells, TX Practical 7/18/2007 > > > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001562 & statecd=T > > > >X & sitecd=059 ®lvl=P > > > > & IsPostBack=1®ion=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6 > /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & > > > >levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 8/18/2007 San , TX Practical 7/28/2007 > > > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001518 & statecd=TX > & s > > > >itecd=490 ®lvl=I > > > > & IsPostBack=1®ion=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6 > /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & lev > > > >elP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) 8/25/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 8/4/2007 > > > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2007000086 & statecd=TX > & sitecd=02 > > > >0 ®lvl=P > > > > & IsPostBack=1®ion=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6 > /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & pa > > > >ge=1 & secID=1) 9/13/2007 Dallas, TX Practical 8/23/2007 > > > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001519 & statecd=TX > & sitecd=490 > > > >®lvl=P > > > > & IsPostBack=1®ion=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6 > /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & sec > > > >ID=1) 9/15/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 8/25/2007 > > > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001520 & statecd=TX > & sitecd=490 > > > >®lvl=I > > > > & IsPostBack=1®ion=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6 > /2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > > > >11/10/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 10/20/2007 > > > >(http://www.nremt.org/EMTServices/cand_exam_detail.asp?id=2006001521 & statecd=TX > & sitecd=490 ®lvl=P > > > > & IsPostBack=1®ion=TX & city= & typeW=1 & typeP=1 & typeWP=0 & EDate=1/1/1900 & LDate=6/6 > > > >/2079 & levelFR=1 & levelB=1 & levelI85=1 & levelI99=0 & levelP=1 & page=1 & secID=1) > > > >12/21/2007 Abilene, TX Practical 11/30/2007 > > > > > > > > > > > >I am very troubled that the capital city of Texas, with a metropolitan > > > >population of well over one million, does not have any open NREMT practical > exams > > > >within a 100 mile radius after August 18. (There is a San exam site > > > >roughly 75 miles away.) I am not prone to conspiracy theories, but I do find > > > >it very coincidental that two of the three NR representatives for my area of > > > >Texas (Region 7) are both full-time faculty with the two college based > > > >programs in the area (Temple College and Austin Community College). I have > been > > > >told before that both of these institutions regularly offer practical exams, > but > > > >these exams are closed to all but their students. > > > > > > > >To me, when a regulatory or licensing entity grants one the authority to > > > >conduct examinations, a certain level of public service and interest is > > > >expected. I am exceedingly concerned that, on first impression, it would > appear that > > > >the NR exam representatives for my region of Texas exist primarily for the > > > >benefit of their respective educational institutions. When a licensing entity > > > >creates scarcity, it has a special obligation to ensure that the opportunity > > > >to test is readily available, at least in major metropolitan areas. Such is > > > >the nature of public service, not private benefit. > > > > > > > >The National Registry has done a very good job of listening to our concerns > > > >as Maxie has relayed them. Let's continue to keep the dialogue going -- and > > > >let's make a commitment to ensure that every EMT-I and EMT-P has an equal > > > >opportunity to test. The multiple locations for Pearson VUE were a good start > > > >for the written/computer exam. It's time to make the same demand for > > > >practical examinations. > > > > > > > >I look forward to seeing how Texas DSHS, GETAC, and NREMT plan to address > > > >this very real issue. > > > > > > > >Respectfully, > > > >Wesley A. " Wes " Ogilvie, MPA, JD, EMT-B > > > >Attorney at Law/Emergency Medical Technician/Paramedic Student > > > >8408 Mesa Doble Lane > > > >Austin, Texas 78759 > > > > (cellular) > > > > > > > >************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 Wes, Thankfully the school I'm in, Tech Pro Services in Abilene, is a test site but again lots of travel would be nice to stay closer to home. Travel costs money with hotels, meals, time off work, putting gold in the fuel tank oops meant gas, etc. But at least I know my program has provided opportunities for testing. Hope you can find out about yours soon. Renny EMT-B If miracles happen and I pass next weeks final and then NR soon to be EMT-I > > I've yet to hear about an exam site for my class. Regardless, there does seem to be a problem with a lack of coverage -- and a problem with too many NR Reps basically running only closed exams for their respective programs. > > -Wes Ogilvie > > > Re: NR Woes, Ad Infinitum > > > Wes > > What about the school you took your EMT -I at? Will your coordinator not do > an exam site? Exam sites don't just pop up it takes alot of people willing > to come and use a day they have off. I try to have one at the end of my > semesters if I can get enough instructors to pool together. I try to mostly have > open test sites but because of not having enough examiners (that will not be > here for free) its hard to test over 25 people for me here. at least. > > Eddie > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 Dudley But remember that not all programs have a pool of people to be able to call on when it comes time to test. Trying telling someone they need to help be an examiner for around 10 bucks an hour or so, then compare that with them possibly having to give up a shift and make over 200 bucks. It's not a tough choice for most to make with the cost of living and gas prices. Eddie ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 Thanks Maxie...maybe something we can address through rulemaking...I still say that a plan/contract for conducting final skills testing SHOULD be MANDATORY for programs wishing to teach an advanced class. This is a coordinator issue...not a NR issue...these coordinators who are not planning on their students to test at the end of their program is what is a shame... Dudley Re: NR Woes, Ad Infinitum Wes What about the school you took your EMT -I at? Will your coordinator not do an exam site? Exam sites don't just pop up it takes alot of people willing to come and use a day they have off. I try to have one at the end of my semesters if I can get enough instructors to pool together. I try to mostly have open test sites but because of not having enough examiners (that will not be here for free) its hard to test over 25 people for me here. at least. Eddie ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. <http://www.aol.com./> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 Attention Students: If the program you are attending fails to make the necessary arrangements with an NR Rep for you to take the practical exam please e-mail me. Thanks, Maxie Bishop, LP, State EMS Director Office of EMS and Trauma Services maxie.bishop@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 I understand that Eddie...but I also think it is a little irresponsible to conduct a class knowing that at the end it will be VERY difficult for your students/customers to get their certification because the program they paid their small fortune to has not had the foresight to plan for this before opening up their garage, hanging out a shingle, and taking trusting, unknowing students in the door. The coordinators of this state should be held responsible for making sure that they have processes in place not just to take students monies and push them through class...but to also take them to the final step and that is obtaining their certification card. Since the NR process is in place, rules should require that coordinators make this happen...if it is bringing in a team of people to do it...so it is...that should be covered in the cost of the class. I am so passionate about this that we are even going the step in our basic class to take all the student to PearsonVUE on their last class day to take their first stab at the CAT...after seeing the last round of DSHS published results of programs in Texas...we have made NR certification the goal of our program...not passing our class. Dudley Re: NR Woes, Ad Infinitum Dudley But remember that not all programs have a pool of people to be able to call on when it comes time to test. Trying telling someone they need to help be an examiner for around 10 bucks an hour or so, then compare that with them possibly having to give up a shift and make over 200 bucks. It's not a tough choice for most to make with the cost of living and gas prices. Eddie ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 Maxie, I think Wes is attending Eddie 's program...but it may be someone else's...it is in the Austin area, not ACC...it is an independent program.... Dudley RE: NR Woes, Ad Infinitum Attention Students: If the program you are attending fails to make the necessary arrangements with an NR Rep for you to take the practical exam please e-mail me. Thanks, Maxie Bishop, LP, State EMS Director Office of EMS and Trauma Services maxie.bishop@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 Contacting a NR Rep is only a small part of setting up a test site for a Training program. I as a NR Rep, cannot set up a test site, nor can I allow students to participate in a test site, it is up to the site coordinator to allow this. I feel that there is a misunderstanding as to what the NR Rep's responsibility is in the skills testing procedure. Yes some of us NR Reps, do have training programs, but as noted in previous post, we do not Rep our own students during the testing procedure. We as any other training program have to contact another NR rep not associated with the training to Proctor the site. As a training director or program coordinator we may be the Exam Site Coordinator but that has nothing to do with being a NR Rep. Please understand that these are two separate titles/roles. I too am willing to travel to Rep Skill Exam sites, but I can't do that until I'm contacted by a site coordinator. My contact information is on the DSHS web site under the NR Reps. Berry Ingram _____ From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Bishop, Maxie Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:54 PM To: texasems-l Cc: edward.racht@...; Veal, ; Hart, Brett; Posada, ; , Subject: RE: NR Woes, Ad Infinitum Attention Students: If the program you are attending fails to make the necessary arrangements with an NR Rep for you to take the practical exam please e-mail me. Thanks, Maxie Bishop, LP, State EMS Director Office of EMS and Trauma Services maxie.bishop@ <mailto:maxie.bishop%40dshs.state.tx.us> dshs.state.tx.us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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