Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Now that we've got past the question of buying Epi Pens, back to the crux of the matter. Epi for anahylaxis is the Standard of Care. If you don't have a proper method of delivery for your EMS, you aren't living up to it and leaving yourself wide open (there was one comment on this). Maybe things are different out here in rural Texas, but our Medical Directors feel that if we've been trained in a proceedure or drug, and it will reduce mortality/morbidity, we need to do it. I have heard of services that require medics to call in before giving Albuterol or Nitro, like one responder stated had to be done with the Epi Pen. My personal opinion on this is that you either need to (a) make sure your personell are trained to a level so your Medical Director trusts them, or ( get a Medical Director that actually has a clue as to what EMS does. Speaking from personal experience, it's usually the latter. Unless a Doc has worked with or around EMS, they have NO idea what we do or are capable of doing. If you're working for a service that doesn't carry Epi Pens and allow BLS crews to use them, then you need to educate managment and Medical Direction on the liability they are facing. We do NOT need laws that mandate what we carry and do. What we DO need is people in charge that know what we do and are capable of and allow us to do it. Guess I'll relinquish the soap box to somebody else now. Thanks for putting up with me again y'all. Keep em rollin and stay safe. Joe T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Dang... now that makes sense! Any chance I can get you to come talk to a certain urban EMS system that doesn't think that EMTs should use Epi-Pens? -Wes Ogilvie South of Round Rock, North of San Marcos Epi (again) Now that we've got past the question of buying Epi Pens, back to the crux of the matter. Epi for anahylaxis is the Standard of Care. If you don't have a proper method of delivery for your EMS, you aren't living up to it and leaving yourself wide open (there was one comment on this). Maybe things are different out here in rural Texas, but our Medical Directors feel that if we've been trained in a proceedure or drug, and it will reduce mortality/morbidity, we need to do it. I have heard of services that require medics to call in before giving Albuterol or Nitro, like one responder stated had to be done with the Epi Pen. My personal opinion on this is that you either need to (a) make sure your personell are trained to a level so your Medical Director trusts them, or ( get a Medical Director that actually has a clue as to what EMS does. Speaking from personal experience, it's usually the latter. Unless a Doc has worked with or around EMS, they have NO idea what we do or are capable of doing. If you're working for a service that doesn't carry Epi Pens and allow BLS crews to use them, then you need to educate managment and Medical Direction on the liability they are facing. We do NOT need laws that mandate what we carry and do. What we DO need is people in charge that know what we do and are capable of and allow us to do it. Guess I'll relinquish the soap box to somebody else now. Thanks for putting up with me again y'all. Keep em rollin and stay safe. Joe T ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 We may need to make him a traveling salesman hehe ez formally from a backwards I-10 hole in the wall east of ft stockton... ExLngHrn@... wrote: Dang... now that makes sense! Any chance I can get you to come talk to a certain urban EMS system that doesn't think that EMTs should use Epi-Pens? -Wes Ogilvie South of Round Rock, North of San Marcos Epi (again) Now that we've got past the question of buying Epi Pens, back to the crux of the matter. Epi for anahylaxis is the Standard of Care. If you don't have a proper method of delivery for your EMS, you aren't living up to it and leaving yourself wide open (there was one comment on this). Maybe things are different out here in rural Texas, but our Medical Directors feel that if we've been trained in a proceedure or drug, and it will reduce mortality/morbidity, we need to do it. I have heard of services that require medics to call in before giving Albuterol or Nitro, like one responder stated had to be done with the Epi Pen. My personal opinion on this is that you either need to (a) make sure your personell are trained to a level so your Medical Director trusts them, or ( get a Medical Director that actually has a clue as to what EMS does. Speaking from personal experience, it's usually the latter. Unless a Doc has worked with or around EMS, they have NO idea what we do or are capable of doing. If you're working for a service that doesn't carry Epi Pens and allow BLS crews to use them, then you need to educate managment and Medical Direction on the liability they are facing. We do NOT need laws that mandate what we carry and do. What we DO need is people in charge that know what we do and are capable of and allow us to do it. Guess I'll relinquish the soap box to somebody else now. Thanks for putting up with me again y'all. Keep em rollin and stay safe. Joe T __________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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