Re: Armour pills not armour?

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Armour is the only one who makes Armour are they not?

Are you saying the pharmacy gave you an entirely different med?

Not sure what happened there...please fill us in.

Sue

Well I got out my bottle to call in my refill of Armour and noticed that the pharmacy did NOT give me Armour brand the last refill I got. The brand I got was the same size and color and I just didn't think to really look. You'd better bet I'm gonna be looking at my refill tomorrow when I pick it up!! I was NOT a happy camper when I discovered the switcheroo.

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Forest Laboratories makes Armour, but there are other dessicated ones including a generic I think, so that may be what she got. I have the pictures of each different pill including the letters on them and I check not only the brand, but the lettering. Here's the list:

All have a big 'A' and then the following letters underneath...

15MG: TC

30MG: TD

60MG: TE

90MG: TJ

120MG: TF

180MG: TG

240MG: TH

300MG: TI

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There are several generics of Armour...

Time Cap Labs, that's the one that I used until I ran out, manufactured by Time Cap... located in New York, USA.

Thyroid-S, manufactured in Thailand. It was the brand that was carried my Costco and several other major Pharmacies during the shortage in Armour supplies a couple or three years ago.

There is another... I can't quite think of the name right now.. and I'm too lazy to go look it up...

From what I've been able to find out all of them, and Nutri-Meds ( the OTC brand that I'm taking again now) are all based on the same Desiccated thyroid powder that Armour is made from.. it's just that they all use slightly different tableting agents.

It's those extra, different, ingredients that change how our bodies are able to utilize the different brands. Some folks body's are very particular about some of the tableting agents, some aren't.

Having tried so many of them, right now Armour has the sweetest tasted, and dissolves the cleanest... Time Caps has a coating on it, you need to split the pills to get a good dissolve rate when you dose sublingually. Thyroid S tastes the worst... and the one that I can't think of the name of right now looks and tastes the same as Armour, but not as sweet.... but, of course, has different stamp codes on the tablets.

But it's important to remember that if you change brands you should have a follow up lab run in 4 to 6 weeks to see how your body is responding to the change in brand, and therefore tableting agents.

It's why I'm on four types right now.. rather than have to futz each time I have to change brands I'm taking some of each daily... to make my routine more consistent until we self treaters can find a new source.

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On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 13:44:42 -0800 (PST) Judy P writes:

Forest Laboratories makes Armour, but there are other dessicated ones including a generic I think, so that may be what she got. I have the pictures of each different pill including the letters on them

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linda does the OTC brand work? I cant seem to get diagnosed as hypo with my low FT's and a TSH of 2.3 and am wondering if i should try the Nutri med stuff.

Thanks

-Eve-

From what I've been able to find out all of them, and Nutri-Meds ( the OTC brand that I'm taking again now) are all based on the same Desiccated thyroid powder that Armour is made from.. it's just that they all use slightly different tableting agents

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Are these from a presecripion or OTC non-prescrip?

I was under the impression the only actual ARMOUR is by Forest.

Sounded like she has a prescription filled recently of some other brand...

Sue

There are several generics of Armour...

Time Cap Labs, that's the one that I used until I ran out, manufactured by Time Cap... located in New York, USA.

Thyroid-S, manufactured in Thailand. It was the brand that was carried my Costco and several other major Pharmacies during the shortage in Armour supplies a couple or three years ago.

There is another... I can't quite think of the name right now.. and I'm too lazy to go look it up...

From what I've been able to find out all of them, and Nutri-Meds ( the OTC brand that I'm taking again now) are all based on the same Desiccated thyroid powder that Armour is made from.. it's just that they all use slightly different tableting agents.

It's those extra, different, ingredients that change how our bodies are able to utilize the different brands. Some folks body's are very particular about some of the tableting agents, some aren't.

Having tried so many of them, right now Armour has the sweetest tasted, and dissolves the cleanest... Time Caps has a coating on it, you need to split the pills to get a good dissolve rate when you dose sublingually. Thyroid S tastes the worst... and the one that I can't think of the name of right now looks and tastes the same as Armour, but not as sweet.... but, of course, has different stamp codes on the tablets.

But it's important to remember that if you change brands you should have a follow up lab run in 4 to 6 weeks to see how your body is responding to the change in brand, and therefore tableting agents.

It's why I'm on four types right now.. rather than have to futz each time I have to change brands I'm taking some of each daily... to make my routine more consistent until we self treaters can find a new source.

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On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 13:44:42 -0800 (PST) Judy P writes:

Forest Laboratories makes Armour, but there are other dessicated ones including a generic I think, so that may be what she got. I have the pictures of each different pill including the letters on them

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The pharmacy gave me a generic version of natural thyroid and not the Armour I'd been taking. When I picked up my new scrip today they had subbed the generic again and I made them change it AND I double checked the pills.JustYourTypeDTP wrote: Armour is the only one who makes Armour are they not?Are you saying the pharmacy gave you an entirely different med?Not sure what happened there...please fill us in.Sue Well I got out my bottle to call in my refill of Armour and noticed that the pharmacy did NOT give me

Armour brand the last refill I got. The brand I got was the same size and color and I just didn't think to really look. You'd better bet I'm gonna be looking at my refill tomorrow when I pick it up!! I was NOT a happy camper when I discovered the switcheroo. Kathy >^,,^<KitzCat146@...http://www.chaytongroup.com/modernbill/order/index.php?aid=ka081104http://www.heartwarmers4u.com/members/?kitzcatkitzcat2001 on Yahoo Messengerkitzcat on MSN MessengerIn a cat's eyes, all things belong to cats. - English Proverb

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Nutri-meds is OTC grade, not as strong by weight as the prescription grades... all the tablets are made by different manufacturers, yes.

The one that I could think of last night... I think it's Qualitest.

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On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 19:54:59 -0600 JustYourTypeDTP writes:

Are these from a presecripion or OTC non-prescrip?I was under the impression the only actual ARMOUR is by Forest.Sounded like she has a prescription filled recently of some other brand...Sue

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The best bet is to get the doc to right Armour on th

script and " no subsitutions. " When I was new to this,

I was getting generics slipped to me for the first

year after my TT...and didn't understand that this was

one more variable that I was up against.

The docs do not offer to tell you...and the pharmacy

doesn't either.

It can make you feel pretty enraged, when you discover

the betrayal.

I now have docs that follow my instructions when

writing out the scripts and there in not a generic to

be found in my stash.

~E:)

--- JustYourTypeDTP justyourtypedtp@...>

wrote:

> Are these from a presecripion or OTC non-prescrip?

> I was under the impression the only actual ARMOUR is

> by Forest.

> Sounded like she has a prescription filled recently

> of some other brand...

> Sue

>

>

Day after day, day after day,

We stuck, nor breath nor motion;

As idle as a painted ship

Upon a painted ocean.

Water, water, everywhere,

And all the boards did shrink;

Water, water, everywhere,

Nor any drop to drink.

~The Ancient Mariner

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[Guest guest]

The best bet is to get the doc to right Armour on th

script and " no subsitutions. " When I was new to this,

I was getting generics slipped to me for the first

year after my TT...and didn't understand that this was

one more variable that I was up against.

The docs do not offer to tell you...and the pharmacy

doesn't either.

It can make you feel pretty enraged, when you discover

the betrayal.

I now have docs that follow my instructions when

writing out the scripts and there in not a generic to

be found in my stash.

~E:)

--- JustYourTypeDTP justyourtypedtp@...>

wrote:

> Are these from a presecripion or OTC non-prescrip?

> I was under the impression the only actual ARMOUR is

> by Forest.

> Sounded like she has a prescription filled recently

> of some other brand...

> Sue

>

>

Day after day, day after day,

We stuck, nor breath nor motion;

As idle as a painted ship

Upon a painted ocean.

Water, water, everywhere,

And all the boards did shrink;

Water, water, everywhere,

Nor any drop to drink.

~The Ancient Mariner

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Who makes the generic Armour? I had no idea there was one. I always get the brand and our insurance INSISTS on generic if there is one...

Thanks,

Sue

The pharmacy gave me a generic version of natural thyroid and not the Armour I'd been taking. When I picked up my new scrip today they had subbed the generic again and I made them change it AND I double checked the pills.

JustYourTypeDTP wrote:

Armour is the only one who makes Armour are they not?

Are you saying the pharmacy gave you an entirely different med?

Not sure what happened there...please fill us in.

Sue

[Guest guest]

Time caps and qualitest..and S-thryoid.

The only REAL DEAL brand name one is the one with an A

engraved on it.

~E:)

--- JustYourTypeDTP justyourtypedtp@...>

wrote:

> Who makes the generic Armour? I had no idea there

> was one. I always get the

> brand and our insurance INSISTS on generic if there

> is one...

> Thanks,

> Sue

>

>

> On 2/5/07 1:57 AM, " Kathy Kitzcat "

> kitzcat2001@...> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > The pharmacy gave me a generic version of natural

> thyroid and not the Armour

> > I'd been taking. When I picked up my new scrip

> today they had subbed the

> > generic again and I made them change it AND I

> double checked the pills.

> >

> > JustYourTypeDTP justyourtypedtp@...>

> wrote:

> >> Armour is the only one who makes Armour are they

> not?

> >> Are you saying the pharmacy gave you an entirely

> different med?

> >> Not sure what happened there...please fill us

> in.

> >> Sue

> >>

> >>

> >> On 2/3/07 2:13 AM, " Kathy Kitzcat "

> kitzcat2001@...> wrote:

> >>

> >>

> >>>

> >>>

>

>

Day after day, day after day,

We stuck, nor breath nor motion;

As idle as a painted ship

Upon a painted ocean.

Water, water, everywhere,

And all the boards did shrink;

Water, water, everywhere,

Nor any drop to drink.

~The Ancient Mariner

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I believe Qualitest is the generic I got. There may be others that I'm not aware of.JustYourTypeDTP wrote: Who makes the generic Armour? I had no idea there was one. I always get the brand and our insurance INSISTS on generic if there is one...Thanks, Sue The pharmacy gave me a generic version of natural thyroid and not the Armour I'd been taking. When I picked up my new scrip today they had subbed the generic again and I made them change it AND I double checked the pills.JustYourTypeDTP

wrote: Armour is the only one who makes Armour are they not?Are you saying the pharmacy gave you an entirely different med?Not sure what happened there...please fill us in.Sue Kathy >^,,^<KitzCat146@...http://www.chaytongroup.com/modernbill/order/index.php?aid=ka081104http://www.heartwarmers4u.com/members/?kitzcatkitzcat2001 on Yahoo Messengerkitzcat on MSN MessengerIn a cat's eyes, all things belong to cats. - English Proverb

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Sue:

If the Armour you were taking really wasn't the brand

name, then that could have accounted for some of the

issues you had.

I was on the Qualitest for a year before I realize

what was going on...and I was taking five grains and

the doctors were freaking out.

They said only an elephant would need five

grains....and that my bones would turn to glass.

First...the generics are/can be much weaker than real

Amour and THEY had me on birth control pills that

TROUNCES the hormone I was taking in on top of

that!!!!

NO WONDER!!!!

THEY were so incompetent...and THEY totally wrecked my

recovery from surgery. JUST a few simple things that

would have made the difference...and they didn't tell

me.

THERE I was fighting for bloods results and changing

out doctors like my underwear.....AND I was horrified

to find that none of them knew what they were talking

about.

~E:)

Day after day, day after day,

We stuck, nor breath nor motion;

As idle as a painted ship

Upon a painted ocean.

Water, water, everywhere,

And all the boards did shrink;

Water, water, everywhere,

Nor any drop to drink.

~The Ancient Mariner

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Sue:

If the Armour you were taking really wasn't the brand

name, then that could have accounted for some of the

issues you had.

I was on the Qualitest for a year before I realize

what was going on...and I was taking five grains and

the doctors were freaking out.

They said only an elephant would need five

grains....and that my bones would turn to glass.

First...the generics are/can be much weaker than real

Amour and THEY had me on birth control pills that

TROUNCES the hormone I was taking in on top of

that!!!!

NO WONDER!!!!

THEY were so incompetent...and THEY totally wrecked my

recovery from surgery. JUST a few simple things that

would have made the difference...and they didn't tell

me.

THERE I was fighting for bloods results and changing

out doctors like my underwear.....AND I was horrified

to find that none of them knew what they were talking

about.

~E:)

Day after day, day after day,

We stuck, nor breath nor motion;

As idle as a painted ship

Upon a painted ocean.

Water, water, everywhere,

And all the boards did shrink;

Water, water, everywhere,

Nor any drop to drink.

~The Ancient Mariner

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Hi E, mine WAS brand — with the “A” on it and all.

I had no idea a generic even existed.

I just don’t think armour is for me...

I feel better on the levoxyl/cytomel

SUe

Sue:

If the Armour you were taking really wasn't the brand

name, then that could have accounted for some of the

issues you had.

I was on the Qualitest for a year before I realize

what was going on...and I was taking five grains and

the doctors were freaking out.

They said only an elephant would need five

grains....and that my bones would turn to glass.

First...the generics are/can be much weaker than real

Amour and THEY had me on birth control pills that

TROUNCES the hormone I was taking in on top of

that!!!!

[Guest guest]

JustYourTypeDTP wrote: Hi E, mine WAS brand — with the “A” on it and all.I had no idea a generic even existed.I just don’t think armour is for me...I feel better on the levoxyl/cytomel :)SUe Sue: I am glad to hear that you had the real thing! We can rule out any obstacles on that front then. I am very sorry that the Armour didn't do its magic for you. I know you had your heart set on it working. IT really isn't for everyone. You will find some will critisize the Armour-takers or the Synthetic- takers..but that is just silly. You take what you need. Good for you Sue!!! ~E:) On 2/6/07 8:22 AM, "E Gillespie" <lyongillespie (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: Sue:If the Armour you were taking really wasn't the brandname, then that could have accounted for some of theissues you had.I was on the Qualitest for a year before I realizewhat was going on...and I was taking five grains andthe doctors were freaking out.They said only an elephant would need fivegrains....and that

my bones would turn to glass.First...the generics are/can be much weaker than realAmour and THEY had me on birth control pills thatTROUNCES the hormone I was taking in on top ofthat!!!! Day after day, day after day,We stuck, nor breath nor motion;As idle as a painted shipUpon a painted ocean.Water, water, everywhere,And all the boards did shrink;Water, water, everywhere,Nor any drop to drink.~The Ancient Mariner

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