Re: Armour - help with dosing - Adrenals

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Thanks so much for your response, . I was taking

Cortef for my adrenal glands from about January

2006-September 2006 and weaned off with my doc's help.

When I first started taking it, my adrenal fatigue

symptoms were difficulty bouncing back from stress,

trouble concentrating and speaking (thinking of

words), and feeling anxious and kind of paranoid.

Since I've been off it, I haven't had any of those

symptoms, and I'd rather not go back on the Cortef if

I don't have to. I know you can't tell me what to do

or predict the future (wouldn't that be nice?), but

can I have your opinion? Do you think my arenals will

even out on their own if I increase the Armour slower?

Also, since I've only been on 30mg of Armour for 3

days now, do you think I should go back down to 15mg

and give that more time?

You guys have recommended at least 6 weeks inbetween

increases, right?

Thanks!!

M.

--- Teague medstudent2be@...>

wrote:

> It sounds like it could be adrenal problems that are

> the back pain culprit. Often our thyroid hormones

> will trigger them to fire out a bit and that ends

> the back pain... and that starts the up and down

> cycle of energy loss, fatigue and back pain. So

> many doctors know tiredness is part of being hypo,

> but they rarely understand the adrenal gland

> connection....*sigh*.

>

> From my understanding you're supposed to average out

> your basal for the week.... have a certain day every

> week where you add up the seven day amounts and

> divide them by seven... you'll get your average temp

> . For instance if you add up the last four temps

> you listed, you get 391.0. If you divide that by

> 4*** you'll get 97.75. And that would be your

> average...

>

> It does sound like your dosage is still a bit off,

> ALTHOUGH... after you increase your armour for 2-3

> months after you may have that energy drop as your

> adrenal glands also get used to the dosage. So it

> would probably be a good thing to talk to your doc

> about it.... maybe have them run some adrenal tests

> after you stay on your dosage for a while and see

> what the numbers say. They're going to be off, but

> you'll at least know where they are... my doc told

> me when I asked years ago.. 'well, I know they're

> not going to be accurate, so what's the point?'..

> coulda slapped the man .

>

> I don't know if I would increase the dosage that

> quickly, either way if you do, you'll have back pain

> until the adrenal glands recover from not working so

> well... it will take a while for them to become

> healthy again. I wish I could remember where that

> post is in the group that talks about thyroid and

> adrenal function... it went something like this...

> after taking your thyroid hormone (usually natural

> thyroid) for a few weeks-months, you will feel

> pretty good and then your energy will drop out, you

> might get puffy faced again and your back will start

> hurting - much like period cramps if you're a

> woman... and that is why many people go off of

> armour because they feel so crappy initially on it.

> The reason for that is the adrenal glands are

> finally waking up and being stimulated after going

> for so long without adequate prodding, I guess LOL.

> Then sometimes they over prod or under... and the

> cycle continues. When the thyroid dosage levels out

> so the adrenal glands are not getting so 'worked up'

> they resume a more normal fashion although can still

> be slightly or very depleated in energy.

>

> I hope that helps and that I haven't left out

> anything..

>

> Good luck,

>

>

>

>

> (***although you should take your temp 3-4 times a

> day, waking up, mid day, mid evening, before bed...

> and average it out for the day THEN average it out

> for the week doing the same math). You'll get a

> more accurate reading that way.

>

> Armour - help

> with dosing

>

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> Not sure if you'll remember what was going on with

> me...I have Hashimoto's, and in December, I

> decided to

> stop taking my Armour thyroid med. I was hoping to

> go

> HYPER and get RAI, but instead, I went HYPO. So,

> by

> mid-January, I decided to go back onto the

> Armour...this time, starting at a lower dose and

> increasing it slower (previously, my doc had me

> start

> at 30mg and increase it by 30mg every 2 weeks).

>

> In mid-January, I started taking 15mg of Armour

> every

> day...my basal temp went from 97.2 to 98.3 within

> a

> week, and during that time, my back pain decreased

> and

> I had a little more energy. But then, my basal

> temp

> started to slowly drop again, and after 2 weeks

> and 3

> days, my temp was 97.7...plus, my back pain was

> back

> again and I was more tired.

>

> So, even though I was planning on waiting at least

> a

> month before increasing the Armour to 30mg, I

> decided

> to go ahead and increase it on January 31st.

> Although

> my back pain is a little better, I don't have any

> more

> energy yet, and I'm trying to understand my basal

> temp...on the day I took 30mg of Armour, my basal

> temp

> was 97.7, and the same on the 2nd day. On the 3rd

> day,

> it increased to 97.9, but dropped again today to

> 97.7.

>

> Any thoughts? Am I expecting results too soon? Did

> I

> increase from 15mg to 30mg too soon?

>

> Thanks so much, as always!

>

> M.

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