Re: The Soy Debate for Hormone Positive B/C

[Guest guest]

Hey Y'all,

As far as I can tell, there are very few studies showing that breast cells grow

in the presence of

soy phyto-estrogens.

That leads me to two conclusions: 1. In vitro is, often, very different from

actual physical

processes. 2. For a while there, some breast cancer studies were tainted due to

the fact that the

plastic used in the petri dishes was producing estrogenic compounds, this

confusing the issue

completely.

Here's a very good article:

http://envirocancer.cornell.edu/FactSheet/Diet/fs1.phyto.cfm

So here's how I'm going to approach it: I'm going to eat moderate amounts of soy

in my diet from

natural foods. Supplements seem risky. Heck, I averse to all " manufactured "

supplements anyway,

thinking that good food is the best source of complete nutrition. That said, I

do take tumeric,

japanese knotweed, cinnamon. and a multivitamin.

What are y'all thinking about this?

R.

Ruffing

Grade 3, Stage IIIA, ER/PR+, HER2 neg, 4.9 cm and 5 nodes positive

Chemo and radiation completed 9/28/06

Mastectomy, no reconstruction

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[Guest guest]

Sounds like a reasonable approach to me. Phytoestorgens are found in

many foods, not just soy. Almonds is one that comes to mink. I plan

on discussing phytoestrogens with my naturapath at my next visit. all

things in moderation! My understanding is that the weaker

phytoestrogens can combine with the estrogen receptors on a cancer

cell, thus making it impossible for stronger estrogens to do so, which

could be a benefit in preventing the division of the cell.

Ruth

Ruth

>

> Hey Y'all,

>

> As far as I can tell, there are very few studies showing that breast

cells grow in the presence of

> soy phyto-estrogens.

>

> That leads me to two conclusions: 1. In vitro is, often, very

different from actual physical

> processes. 2. For a while there, some breast cancer studies were

tainted due to the fact that the

> plastic used in the petri dishes was producing estrogenic compounds,

this confusing the issue

> completely.

>

> Here's a very good article:

http://envirocancer.cornell.edu/FactSheet/Diet/fs1.phyto.cfm

>

> So here's how I'm going to approach it: I'm going to eat moderate

amounts of soy in my diet from

> natural foods. Supplements seem risky. Heck, I averse to all

" manufactured " supplements anyway,

> thinking that good food is the best source of complete nutrition.

That said, I do take tumeric,

> japanese knotweed, cinnamon. and a multivitamin.

>

> What are y'all thinking about this?

>

> R.

>

> Ruffing

> Grade 3, Stage IIIA, ER/PR+, HER2 neg, 4.9 cm and 5 nodes positive

> Chemo and radiation completed 9/28/06

> Mastectomy, no reconstruction

>

>

>

>

>

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