Background Checks

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In a message dated 4/3/2007 2:19:53 PM Central Daylight Time,

fremsdallas@... writes:

Jeeez.....I can't wait for the day when they want us to put the pet

microchips in our children in the name of " safety. "

ummm...it's here now...

ck

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In a message dated 4/3/2007 2:29:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

ExLngHrn@... writes:

I think we're getting occupational licensing mixed up with a lot of other

issues here...

Ya think?

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I'm not totally against the checks, because it does " weed out " some that should

not be in EMS, but at the same time, henders some people also. It just seems

like that everything you want to now days, you have to be subjected to all kinds

of checks. The government is trying to over-step its bounds.

Any one can get a criminal hx from DPS, if they wanted it. While I don't

fully agree with all of the steps that are required now, it maybe a good thing.

This is why we live in the USA, and have the freedom to voice our opinion on

issues.

Wayne

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Then how do you check for just some things? I'm trying to figure out how you'd

do a limited background check...

And how is the government overstepping its bounds with background checks for

occupational licensing? I'm not trying to argue, but rather to figure out what

exactly you're objecting to.

-Wes Ogilvie

Background Checks

I'm not totally against the checks, because it does " weed out " some that should

not be in EMS, but at the same time, henders some people also. It just seems

like that everything you want to now days, you have to be subjected to all kinds

of checks. The government is trying to over-step its bounds.

Any one can get a criminal hx from DPS, if they wanted it. While I don't fully

agree with all of the steps that are required now, it maybe a good thing. This

is why we live in the USA, and have the freedom to voice our opinion on issues.

Wayne

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Limited..hmmm. If you use one of the on-line places such as publicdata.com, you

would only get information for only one county, sometimes more, if the county

submitted that information. To me that would be limited. DPS report or hx

would include everything from tickets to minor or major crimes.

The objection is that you have to submit fingerprints, blood, hair, the name

of your first born now days to apply for anything...just about. The Patriot Act

is a good example, this let the government do as they please. You open a bank

account, you have to prove that your not on the terror list, there should be a

limit to how much a person should be subjected to just to prove they are who

they say they are and not a criminal.

I know the process that you went through to be a lawyer, as well as the steps

you had to take to take the bar exam, as I help with those exams. You have to

prove that you are the person who is listed on the admit slip with photo ID.

Now, granted this is not a top secret exam or position in the end, but you still

have to prove to the state that you are not a criminal. Wait, that comes after

the bar exam....right?

It just seems that everyday, more and more laws are put on the books that

hender a person who is trying to do the right thing. You should not have to

prove that you are innecent or not on some list somwhere because your name and

someone elses name maybe the same, but off by one letter. Just look at the

woman in North Dallas that was arrested as a drug dealer, when in fact it was

only after the cop did his homework, after she was arrested, she did not have

the markings on her arms that the actual drug dealer did. But, still she had to

prove that she was not that person, and be subjected to the booking and

everything that comes with being arrested. She lost her job also because of

someone not doing their job correctly. I hope she sees to it that the cop never

works again, or get alot of money from him and the city because he did not do

his homework. But more than likely he (the cop) and the dept will cry, well we

are sorry, get over it. A can should be opened on the

cop and the city for this.

Background checks can be good, but if not done correctly, they can hurt that

same person and who is going to be held responsible? The state? yea, try

again. The person doing the check? Try again. No one. Only the person and

their lawyer are left to fix the mess up.

The FBI has taken the Patriot Act way too far, just listen to the news and

someone is complaining about the way the act is being enforced or over-enforced.

Wayne

ExLngHrn@... wrote:

Then how do you check for just some things? I'm trying to figure out

how you'd do a limited background check...

And how is the government overstepping its bounds with background checks for

occupational licensing? I'm not trying to argue, but rather to figure out what

exactly you're objecting to.

-Wes Ogilvie

Background Checks

I'm not totally against the checks, because it does " weed out " some that should

not be in EMS, but at the same time, henders some people also. It just seems

like that everything you want to now days, you have to be subjected to all kinds

of checks. The government is trying to over-step its bounds.

Any one can get a criminal hx from DPS, if they wanted it. While I don't fully

agree with all of the steps that are required now, it maybe a good thing. This

is why we live in the USA, and have the freedom to voice our opinion on issues.

Wayne

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Actually, the background check occurs mostly before you take the bar exam.

Still, I can't see the problem with DSHS running a criminal history search.

I think we're getting occupational licensing mixed up with a lot of other issues

here...

-Wes

Background Checks

I'm not totally against the checks, because it does " weed out " some that should

not be in EMS, but at the same time, henders some people also. It just seems

like that everything you want to now days, you have to be subjected to all kinds

of checks. The government is trying to over-step its bounds.

Any one can get a criminal hx from DPS, if they wanted it. While I don't fully

agree with all of the steps that are required now, it maybe a good thing. This

is why we live in the USA, and have the freedom to voice our opinion on issues.

Wayne

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Here's a question along these lines. A friend of mine went through all this

the last time her re-upped, and he was wondering if the new rules were any

different or more strict.

1. What if someone has already revealed their heinous criminal past to

TDH and did all the paperwork and jumping-through-hoops on their last

recert? Do they have to jump through all the hoops and do all the paperwork

AGAIN this time around, or do they get to say " I didn't get arrested or get

a spanking for being a bad boy since the LAST time I did this paperwork " .

2. Would something that IS NOT a factor for being an MD, police

officer, firefighter, nurse, OR hold a concealed carry license prevent

someone from being EMS certified with all the changes?

I couldn't even get my addled brain to remember how to read the EMS

regulations today. (roll-eyes)

Barry McClung

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Sent: Tuesday, 03 April, 2007 14:15

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Subject: Re: Background Checks

Jeeez.....I can't wait for the day when they want us to put the pet

microchips in our children in the name of " safety. "

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Re: Background Checks

Jeeez.....I can't wait for the day when they want us to put the pet

microchips in our children in the name of " safety. "