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This book explains all the stages and yep denial and numbness and then anger

and then acceptance are pretty much what it says and I went thru everyone of

them and now im over anger and fighting to get control . I am sorry to have to

get to know u this way but glad your here ...I am new too ...that book is like a

bible to me now ...it is so jam packed full of easy to understand stuff and

emotions and right down to what to say to people if they act like they are the

diabetes police on ya . I fully recommend it and after reading it I went to my

diabetic classes ...and I learned nothing I hadnt read in that book ! Welcome to

the group !

jhealy22 aflutesong@...> wrote:

Hi everyone~

I'm new to the list and newly diagnosed as well. I'm not sure if I've

already accepted my diagnosis (I've suspected it for awhile) or if I'm

still in the numb stage. [:-/] Fortunately, I'm going to see my PA

this morning and a talk about diabetes tonight at a local hospital.

Anyway, I just wanted to say hi!

Joan

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5

>>This book explains all the stages and yep denial and numbness and

then anger and then acceptance are pretty much what it says<<

Thanks so much for the link to the book! I've read what I could off

Amazon's site and even that little bit has helped a lot. So far, the

people I've told in my family have blamed me for my diabetes. Their

thinking goes: well, you knew you could get it but didn't lose weight

(or lose it and keep it off) so now it's your fault for the diabetes.

It was inevitable. Anyone else come across this type of thinking?

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Hi Joan,

Welcome to the group, I was diagnosed at the end of June, and I am still

bewildered by it all

So join the club, lol

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Hi everyone~

I'm new to the list and newly diagnosed as well. I'm not sure if I've

already accepted my diagnosis (I've suspected it for awhile) or if I'm

still in the numb stage. [:-/] Fortunately, I'm going to see my PA

this morning and a talk about diabetes tonight at a local hospital.

Anyway, I just wanted to say hi!

Joan

[Guest guest]

Oh yeah I dealt with that ...the you did it to yourself thingy ....which is

where that book helped me cause it is totally the opposite lol ....The diabetes

made it HARD to lose the weight . If I was finished with my copy id sure send it

to u ....dont let people get u down ...ITS NOT YOUR FAULT ....Hugzzz

shannon

jhealy22 aflutesong@...> wrote:

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5

>>This book explains all the stages and yep denial and numbness and

then anger and then acceptance are pretty much what it says<<

Thanks so much for the link to the book! I've read what I could off

Amazon's site and even that little bit has helped a lot. So far, the

people I've told in my family have blamed me for my diabetes. Their

thinking goes: well, you knew you could get it but didn't lose weight

(or lose it and keep it off) so now it's your fault for the diabetes.

It was inevitable. Anyone else come across this type of thinking?

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Thank goodness no one ever said that to me. I always knew I would get because

every aunt and uncle on my mom's side had it and my mother had gaeststional

diabetes with me. She didn't develope regular diabetes until in her 70's. My dr.

at the time said mine was probably brought on sooner because of a diuretic

(hygroton) he had me on. Don't let others get your goat. It could happen to

them. Lois

Re: Re: new to group

Oh yeah I dealt with that ...the you did it to yourself thingy .....which is

where that book helped me cause it is totally the opposite lol ....The diabetes

made it HARD to lose the weight . If I was finished with my copy id sure send it

to u ....dont let people get u down ...ITS NOT YOUR FAULT ....Hugzzz

shannon

jhealy22 aflutesong@...> wrote:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1569245460/002-5443079-0601631?v=glance&n=28315\

5

>>This book explains all the stages and yep denial and numbness and

then anger and then acceptance are pretty much what it says<<

Thanks so much for the link to the book! I've read what I could off

Amazon's site and even that little bit has helped a lot. So far, the

people I've told in my family have blamed me for my diabetes. Their

thinking goes: well, you knew you could get it but didn't lose weight

(or lose it and keep it off) so now it's your fault for the diabetes.

It was inevitable. Anyone else come across this type of thinking?

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>

> Their

> thinking goes: well, you knew you could get it but didn't lose weight

> (or lose it and keep it off) so now it's your fault for the diabetes.

> It was inevitable. Anyone else come across this type of thinking?

One time (not one of my finer moments) ;-) I had a total stranger tell me

I wouldn't have diabetes if I had lost weight (she saw me taking an insulin

shot at 's)... even though I was having a side salad and a small chili.

I looked her in the eye and said something like... " We could probably all do

things to improve ourselves, a bottle of Clairol and a nose job would be a

good start for you. " She just stood there for a minute and blinked...opened

her mouth and then closed it without saying a word and turned and walked

away.

Ok, I was having a bad day, and that was really rude.... but I didn't feel

like responding with anything that actually explained that most of my weight

gain was after having angioplasty, being thrown off of my exercise routine

and starting insulin. ly, it was none of her business anyway.

Mike

[Guest guest]

Mike,

Sounded like she deserved it. If you dish it out, you better be able

to take it.

Dale

>

> >

> > Their

> > thinking goes: well, you knew you could get it but didn't lose

> weight

> > (or lose it and keep it off) so now it's your fault for the

> diabetes.

> > It was inevitable. Anyone else come across this type of thinking?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well, I talked to my PA yesterday. I'm in the early stages of

diabetes, so he thinks I can control it with just diet, no medication.

I set myself up an appointment with a dietitian and am looking into

local diabetes classes and support groups. I also bought a glucose

monitor, the One Touch Ultra. I've discovered it's not too bad,

poking yourself! (grin)

Joan

[Guest guest]

Mike, I think you're reply is priceless.

I haven't had anyone say anything to my face, yet. I do know the

frustruation of not being able to lose weight. I've never been

small but I carried alot of muscle for a woman until early 2002 when

I started gaining weight and my lower abdomen swelled up. Come to

find out I had pcos and had a 2# cyst on my left ovary and a 10#

(yes 10 pound) cyst on my right one. My husband is retired Navy and

at that time you had to get permission from them to get a

hysterectomy. It took a month for those yahoos to give the final

approval and in the meantime Junior (the little one) and Fred (the

larger one) grew bigger & bigger. I ended up being bed ridden for

over a month before the surgery and had a long, slow healing process

after the surgery. I was then diagnosed as being pre-diabetic. The

weight piled on. I cut back on my food consumption but wasn't

allowed to exercise for 6 months. When I finally was cleared to

exercise I worked my tail off and lost only 5 pounds in 3 months.

That's when I got depressed.

I still watch what I eat and I have a exercise bike which I use @ 5 -

6 times a week. Needless to say you won't catch me in a gym

because I just don't feel comfortable there anymore.

I knew diabetes was more of a " when " and not an " if " thing with T2

on both sides of my family so I started watching what I ate while in

my early 20s. Even with that it's still hard when it finally

happens (I'll be 43 next month). I have put on @ 80 pounds since my

surgery and the thing that gets me is that I don't drink sodas (not

even diet) or eat large amounts of food. Matter of fact I eat

smaller portions now than when I was thinner.

> >

> > Their

> > thinking goes: well, you knew you could get it but didn't lose

weight

> > (or lose it and keep it off) so now it's your fault for the

diabetes.

> > It was inevitable. Anyone else come across this type of

thinking?

>

>

>

> One time (not one of my finer moments) ;-) I had a total

stranger tell me

> I wouldn't have diabetes if I had lost weight (she saw me taking

an insulin

> shot at 's)... even though I was having a side salad and a

small chili.

>

> I looked her in the eye and said something like... " We could

probably all do

> things to improve ourselves, a bottle of Clairol and a nose job

would be a

> good start for you. " She just stood there for a minute and

blinked...opened

> her mouth and then closed it without saying a word and turned and

walked

> away.

>

> Ok, I was having a bad day, and that was really rude.... but I

didn't feel

> like responding with anything that actually explained that most of

my weight

> gain was after having angioplasty, being thrown off of my exercise

routine

> and starting insulin. ly, it was none of her business anyway.

>

> Mike

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Good for you Mike,

She deserved that,

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>

> Their

> thinking goes: well, you knew you could get it but didn't lose weight

> (or lose it and keep it off) so now it's your fault for the diabetes.

> It was inevitable. Anyone else come across this type of thinking?

One time (not one of my finer moments) ;-) I had a total stranger tell me

I wouldn't have diabetes if I had lost weight (she saw me taking an insulin

shot at 's)... even though I was having a side salad and a small chili.

I looked her in the eye and said something like... " We could probably all do

things to improve ourselves, a bottle of Clairol and a nose job would be a

good start for you. " She just stood there for a minute and blinked...opened

her mouth and then closed it without saying a word and turned and walked

away.

Ok, I was having a bad day, and that was really rude.... but I didn't feel

like responding with anything that actually explained that most of my weight

gain was after having angioplasty, being thrown off of my exercise routine

and starting insulin. ly, it was none of her business anyway.

Mike

[Guest guest]

Mike:

Rude gets as rude is! Her comment was EXCEEDINGLY rude - so, replying in

kind, in my opinion, was certainly justified. OK, two wrongs don't make a

right - but how about do unto others as you'd have done unto you - guess she

was looking for totally blunt, personal observation!

C

Re: Re: new to group

On 7/10/06, jhealy22 com>

wrote:

>

> Their

> thinking goes: well, you knew you could get it but didn't lose weight

> (or lose it and keep it off) so now it's your fault for the diabetes.

> It was inevitable. Anyone else come across this type of thinking?

One time (not one of my finer moments) ;-) I had a total stranger tell me

I wouldn't have diabetes if I had lost weight (she saw me taking an insulin

shot at 's)... even though I was having a side salad and a small chili.

I looked her in the eye and said something like... " We could probably all do

things to improve ourselves, a bottle of Clairol and a nose job would be a

good start for you. " She just stood there for a minute and blinked...opened

her mouth and then closed it without saying a word and turned and walked

away.

Ok, I was having a bad day, and that was really rude.... but I didn't feel

like responding with anything that actually explained that most of my weight

gain was after having angioplasty, being thrown off of my exercise routine

and starting insulin. ly, it was none of her business anyway.

Mike

[Guest guest]

Joan! Good for you for being pro-active! One small word or caution - you

may find that the " recommended " diet/way of eating that you receive will

contain too many carbohydrates for your body to handle. Many of us here on

the list find that low carbohydrate diets (way of eating) works best to keep

blood sugar down. Also, eat frequent, small meals (about every four hours),

pair your carbs with some form of protein, and be sure to get at least 30

minutes of exercise every day!

The new meters use such small blood samples that the finger pokes are really

nothing, I've found. I check 6-8 times a day and I rarely, if ever, have a

sore finger - also I never use the index finger or thumb on EITHER hand - I

learned early on that those particular digits have a propensity to develop

infections - it's got something to do with how much/often they are used

throughout the course of a day and the possibility of germs getting into the

small hole in the skin! I also never have any trouble with redness or

infection in my other fingers - and I also wash my hands frequently.

Take Care

C

Re: new to group

Well, I talked to my PA yesterday. I'm in the early stages of

diabetes, so he thinks I can control it with just diet, no medication.

I set myself up an appointment with a dietitian and am looking into

local diabetes classes and support groups. I also bought a glucose

monitor, the One Touch Ultra. I've discovered it's not too bad,

poking yourself! (grin)

Joan

[Guest guest]

One change I have liked is the ability to do my blood testing from my arms, way

less painful than the fingers and less trouble with infection and painful

fingers.

Leif

Re: new to group

Well, I talked to my PA yesterday. I'm in the early stages of

diabetes, so he thinks I can control it with just diet, no medication.

I set myself up an appointment with a dietitian and am looking into

local diabetes classes and support groups. I also bought a glucose

monitor, the One Touch Ultra. I've discovered it's not too bad,

poking yourself! (grin)

Joan

[Guest guest]

Leif: My meter has that option - but it doesn't work too well for me - I

tend to look like some junky with all the tiny red marks on my forearm! I

just don't have any trouble with my fingers, as long as I don't use the

forefinger or thumb, as I mentioned!

C

Re: Re: new to group

One change I have liked is the ability to do my blood testing from my arms,

way less painful than the fingers and less trouble with infection and

painful fingers.

Leif

[Guest guest]

I use my pinky alot and it seems to bleed better then the others ....i got

little red dots all over my poor finger tips though lol

Clayton claytonsecretarialplus@...> wrote: Leif: My

meter has that option - but it doesn't work too well for me - I

tend to look like some junky with all the tiny red marks on my forearm! I

just don't have any trouble with my fingers, as long as I don't use the

forefinger or thumb, as I mentioned!

C

Re: Re: new to group

One change I have liked is the ability to do my blood testing from my arms,

way less painful than the fingers and less trouble with infection and

painful fingers.

Leif

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My name is , I'm 44, and my cancer was found on a routine

screening mammogram.

I had DCIS and IDC, my tumor was 3.2 cm. I had a sentinel lymph

node biopsy and bilateral mastectomy in Dec. My cancer is T2N0,

estrogen receptor postitive, her2 negative, and I'm waiting for

oncotype testing on my tumor to determine if I will be having chemo.

The choice to have a bilateral mastectomy was a no-brainer for me.

I watched my aunt die of breast cancer when I was 14, and I knew

then that if I ever got breast cancer, I would chose aggressive

surgery.

I am starting to get used to my new flat shape. The worst part is

my stomach is not flat, so I'm going to need to do situps. I've

gone out and bought some new shirts, and have actually found it

easier to find clothes I like now that I'm not trying to deal w/ a D

cup.

The hardest part for me has been loss of sensation in my chest. I

don't like being numb and I don't like all the hard scar tissue.

I'm uncomfortable from the swelling, and I don't like wearing an ace

bandage.

But the question for me was, " What would you trade for your life? " It

was an easy decision. I would trade my breasts.

[Guest guest]

, I think I'm going to have a bilateral mastectomy too. At this

point in my life, I need good health more than breasts! But, I'm going

to have the tummy problem too (UGH!) AND a bubble-butt! Thanks for

your insights....they have helped me a lot. An ace bandage !?! EEK!

The nurses put one on me last week after my biopsy, and I felt like a

saugage! (I'm a 40D)

Lucinda in VA

[Guest guest]

,

Welcome to the group. If I had to do it all over again I would have had a

bilateral mastectomy. Please keep us posted.

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New to group

My name is , I'm 44, and my cancer was found on a routine

screening mammogram.

I had DCIS and IDC, my tumor was 3.2 cm. I had a sentinel lymph

node biopsy and bilateral mastectomy in Dec. My cancer is T2N0,

estrogen receptor postitive, her2 negative, and I'm waiting for

oncotype testing on my tumor to determine if I will be having chemo.

The choice to have a bilateral mastectomy was a no-brainer for me.

I watched my aunt die of breast cancer when I was 14, and I knew

then that if I ever got breast cancer, I would chose aggressive

surgery.

I am starting to get used to my new flat shape. The worst part is

my stomach is not flat, so I'm going to need to do situps. I've

gone out and bought some new shirts, and have actually found it

easier to find clothes I like now that I'm not trying to deal w/ a D

cup.

The hardest part for me has been loss of sensation in my chest. I

don't like being numb and I don't like all the hard scar tissue.

I'm uncomfortable from the swelling, and I don't like wearing an ace

bandage.

But the question for me was, " What would you trade for your life? " It

was an easy decision. I would trade my breasts.

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[Guest guest]

Lucinda, I'm in VA too.

>

> , I think I'm going to have a bilateral mastectomy too. At

this

> point in my life, I need good health more than breasts! But, I'm

going

> to have the tummy problem too (UGH!) AND a bubble-butt! Thanks for

> your insights....they have helped me a lot. An ace bandage !?!

EEK!

> The nurses put one on me last week after my biopsy, and I felt like

a

> saugage! (I'm a 40D)

>

> Lucinda in VA

>

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TeeHee!!! When I first saw your " name " --laurava---I misread it Larva....I'm in

Winchester

laurava23233 jeff.laura@...> wrote: Lucinda, I'm in VA too.

>

> , I think I'm going to have a bilateral mastectomy too. At

this

> point in my life, I need good health more than breasts! But, I'm

going

> to have the tummy problem too (UGH!) AND a bubble-butt! Thanks for

> your insights....they have helped me a lot. An ace bandage !?!

EEK!

> The nurses put one on me last week after my biopsy, and I felt like

a

> saugage! (I'm a 40D)

>

> Lucinda in VA

>

Lucinda in VA

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