Re: [TEXAS_EMS] Re: [EMS-L] Education

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Ummm, Tom, re-read and I think you'll see the irony and sarcasm in my post,

which was in total agreement with you. You DO get it. That's what I

meant.

G.

>

> What do you mean I don't get it? I don't. Why can't we work on teaching

> kids to conquer life instead of being conquered by life? When i work with my

> daughter (She's 10)Â I consistently see the inadequacies of what her school

> system is providing. They consistently teach some standardized test. Yet

when

> the crunch is on, it won't be a standardized test. It will be life. Being

> able to adapt, modify, and overcome is essential in this life. Not being

able

> to pass standardization. Ugh. Just a poor medics ramblings about

> education.Â

> Â

> I say all this... because I wonder about the future of our EMT's and

> paramedics.

> Â

> Tom LeNeveu

> Paramedic

> Fort Worth Texas

>

> Re: [EMS-L] Education

>

> Tom,

>

> " Why can't we just teach kids? " Â I'm sorry, my friend, but you just don't

> get it. If that's all we did, why would we need 7 administrators for every

> teacher in the system (that's reportedly what Dallas has) and federal programs

> to ruin what used to be done routinely in little country school systems?

>

> What we need is more studies to determine whether or not the studies that

> have been done need to be studied more or not. Only then can we prepare to

> learn how to study how to teach, er, misunderedumacate, our childrens.

>

> Gene G.

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> We all know there is a problem with general education. Consistently we

> produce adults who lack in fundamental skills. Many states have implemented

> testing that stresses kids and teachers out. Now, due to the kids still

failing

> they want to make the day longer in school. I am quite skeptical that even

> this will help. Why can't we just teach kids. Why do we have to prepare

for

> testing. In real life the testing will not be some exam, but situations, and

> real life challenges. Until we teach our kids to rise up to these

> challenges we will continue to be behind the curve of other countries.

>

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Ummm, Tom, re-read and I think you'll see the irony and sarcasm in my post,

which was in total agreement with you. You DO get it. That's what I

meant.

G.

>

> What do you mean I don't get it? I don't. Why can't we work on teaching

> kids to conquer life instead of being conquered by life? When i work with my

> daughter (She's 10)Â I consistently see the inadequacies of what her school

> system is providing. They consistently teach some standardized test. Yet

when

> the crunch is on, it won't be a standardized test. It will be life. Being

> able to adapt, modify, and overcome is essential in this life. Not being

able

> to pass standardization. Ugh. Just a poor medics ramblings about

> education.Â

> Â

> I say all this... because I wonder about the future of our EMT's and

> paramedics.

> Â

> Tom LeNeveu

> Paramedic

> Fort Worth Texas

>

> Re: [EMS-L] Education

>

> Tom,

>

> " Why can't we just teach kids? " Â I'm sorry, my friend, but you just don't

> get it. If that's all we did, why would we need 7 administrators for every

> teacher in the system (that's reportedly what Dallas has) and federal programs

> to ruin what used to be done routinely in little country school systems?

>

> What we need is more studies to determine whether or not the studies that

> have been done need to be studied more or not. Only then can we prepare to

> learn how to study how to teach, er, misunderedumacate, our childrens.

>

> Gene G.

> In a message dated 3/25/07 11:03:03 PM, emsleneveu@sbcglobaIn a message

>

>

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> We all know there is a problem with general education. Consistently we

> produce adults who lack in fundamental skills. Many states have implemented

> testing that stresses kids and teachers out. Now, due to the kids still

failing

> they want to make the day longer in school. I am quite skeptical that even

> this will help. Why can't we just teach kids. Why do we have to prepare

for

> testing. In real life the testing will not be some exam, but situations, and

> real life challenges. Until we teach our kids to rise up to these

> challenges we will continue to be behind the curve of other countries.

>

>

> http://www.nytimes.http://wwhttp://wwhttp://www.nhttp://www.nytimht &

> en=9e82c4c09a3be662 & ei=5089 & partner=rssyahoo & emc=rss

>

> Tom LeNeveu

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Ummm, Tom, re-read and I think you'll see the irony and sarcasm in my post,

which was in total agreement with you. You DO get it. That's what I

meant.

G.

>

> What do you mean I don't get it? I don't. Why can't we work on teaching

> kids to conquer life instead of being conquered by life? When i work with my

> daughter (She's 10)Â I consistently see the inadequacies of what her school

> system is providing. They consistently teach some standardized test. Yet

when

> the crunch is on, it won't be a standardized test. It will be life. Being

> able to adapt, modify, and overcome is essential in this life. Not being

able

> to pass standardization. Ugh. Just a poor medics ramblings about

> education.Â

> Â

> I say all this... because I wonder about the future of our EMT's and

> paramedics.

> Â

> Tom LeNeveu

> Paramedic

> Fort Worth Texas

>

> Re: [EMS-L] Education

>

> Tom,

>

> " Why can't we just teach kids? " Â I'm sorry, my friend, but you just don't

> get it. If that's all we did, why would we need 7 administrators for every

> teacher in the system (that's reportedly what Dallas has) and federal programs

> to ruin what used to be done routinely in little country school systems?

>

> What we need is more studies to determine whether or not the studies that

> have been done need to be studied more or not. Only then can we prepare to

> learn how to study how to teach, er, misunderedumacate, our childrens.

>

> Gene G.

> In a message dated 3/25/07 11:03:03 PM, emsleneveu@sbcglobaIn a message

>

>

>

>

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>

>

> We all know there is a problem with general education. Consistently we

> produce adults who lack in fundamental skills. Many states have implemented

> testing that stresses kids and teachers out. Now, due to the kids still

failing

> they want to make the day longer in school. I am quite skeptical that even

> this will help. Why can't we just teach kids. Why do we have to prepare

for

> testing. In real life the testing will not be some exam, but situations, and

> real life challenges. Until we teach our kids to rise up to these

> challenges we will continue to be behind the curve of other countries.

>

>

> http://www.nytimes.http://wwhttp://wwhttp://www.nhttp://www.nytimht &

> en=9e82c4c09a3be662 & ei=5089 & partner=rssyahoo & emc=rss

>

> Tom LeNeveu

> Paramedic

> Fort Worth Texas

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Gene,

you are right. I did misinterpret.

I got escorted off school grounds after a parent teacher conference when I told

her she needed to learn how to teach for real and get away from the standardized

testing.

Tom LeNeveu

Paramedic

Fort Worth Texas

Re: [EMS-L] Education

>

> Tom,

>

> " Why can't we just teach kids? " I'm sorry, my friend, but you just don't

> get it. If that's all we did, why would we need 7 administrators for every

> teacher in the system (that's reportedly what Dallas has) and federal programs

> to ruin what used to be done routinely in little country school systems?

>

> What we need is more studies to determine whether or not the studies that

> have been done need to be studied more or not. Only then can we prepare to

> learn how to study how to teach, er, misunderedumacate, our childrens.

>

> Gene G.

> In a message dated 3/25/07 11:03:03 PM, emsleneveu@sbcgloba In a message

>

>

>

>

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>

> We all know there is a problem with general education. Consistently we

> produce adults who lack in fundamental skills. Many states have implemented

> testing that stresses kids and teachers out. Now, due to the kids still

failing

> they want to make the day longer in school. I am quite skeptical that even

> this will help. Why can't we just teach kids. Why do we have to prepare for

> testing. In real life the testing will not be some exam, but situations, and

> real life challenges. Until we teach our kids to rise up to these

> challenges we will continue to be behind the curve of other countries.

>

>

> http://www.nytimes. http://wwhttp: //wwhttp: //www.nhttp: //www.nytimht &

> en=9e82c4c09a3be662 & ei=5089 & partner=rssyahoo & emc=rss

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HA Ha HA you just thought their was free speech and that you had the right as a

parent to question the educational system. HO HO HO HO

I have that T Shirt

Henry

Re: [EMS-L] Education

>

> Tom,

>

> " Why can't we just teach kids? " I'm sorry, my friend, but you just don't

> get it. If that's all we did, why would we need 7 administrators for every

> teacher in the system (that's reportedly what Dallas has) and federal

programs

> to ruin what used to be done routinely in little country school systems?

>

> What we need is more studies to determine whether or not the studies that

> have been done need to be studied more or not. Only then can we prepare to

> learn how to study how to teach, er, misunderedumacate, our childrens.

>

> Gene G.

> In a message dated 3/25/07 11:03:03 PM, emsleneveu@sbcgloba In a message

>

>

>

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>

> We all know there is a problem with general education. Consistently we

> produce adults who lack in fundamental skills. Many states have implemented

> testing that stresses kids and teachers out. Now, due to the kids still

failing

> they want to make the day longer in school. I am quite skeptical that even

> this will help. Why can't we just teach kids. Why do we have to prepare for

> testing. In real life the testing will not be some exam, but situations, and

> real life challenges. Until we teach our kids to rise up to these

> challenges we will continue to be behind the curve of other countries.

>

>

> http://www.nytimes. http://wwhttp: //wwhttp: //www.nhttp: //www.nytimht &

> en=9e82c4c09a3be662 & ei=5089 & partner=rssyahoo & emc=rss

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(there or their) maybe I should avail myself to the educational system or at the

least read my own post.

Henry

Re: [EMS-L] Education

>

> Tom,

>

> " Why can't we just teach kids? " I'm sorry, my friend, but you just don't

> get it. If that's all we did, why would we need 7 administrators for every

> teacher in the system (that's reportedly what Dallas has) and federal

programs

> to ruin what used to be done routinely in little country school systems?

>

> What we need is more studies to determine whether or not the studies that

> have been done need to be studied more or not. Only then can we prepare to

> learn how to study how to teach, er, misunderedumacate, our childrens.

>

> Gene G.

> In a message dated 3/25/07 11:03:03 PM, emsleneveu@sbcgloba In a message

>

>

>

>

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>

> We all know there is a problem with general education. Consistently we

> produce adults who lack in fundamental skills. Many states have implemented

> testing that stresses kids and teachers out. Now, due to the kids still

failing

> they want to make the day longer in school. I am quite skeptical that even

> this will help. Why can't we just teach kids. Why do we have to prepare for

> testing. In real life the testing will not be some exam, but situations, and

> real life challenges. Until we teach our kids to rise up to these

> challenges we will continue to be behind the curve of other countries.

>

>

> http://www.nytimes. http://wwhttp: //wwhttp: //www.nhttp: //www.nytimht &

> en=9e82c4c09a3be662 & ei=5089 & partner=rssyahoo & emc=rss

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