Guest guest Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 This is very encouraging to read. Alice I came to the conclusion a few months ago that I had a food addiction. I started " attending " online OA meetings, gave up all wheat, flour and sugar in any form. Since then I've lost 35 pounds and have dropped my A1C from 8.8 to 5.6 and my LDL from 180 down to 76. It's a very difficult day to day journey. Sometimes minute to minute :-) Click here: The Liver Detoxification Pathways I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 I would like to know how to elminate all wheat, flour, and sugar from one's diet? What do you eat instead? what are OA meetings? To: diabetes > > I came to the conclusion a few months ago that I had a food > addiction. I > started " attending " online OA meetings, gave up all wheat, flour > and sugar in > any form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 Here's my meal plan: Abstain from all fried foods & caffeine. Abstain from all forms of sugar: Sugar, brown sugar, glucose, sucrose, fructose, corn sweeteners, dextrose, maltose, maltodextrose, polydextrose, honey, syrups, malt, rice sweeteners, molasses, evaporated cane juice, caramel color, corn syrup, high fructose corn syrup, fruit juice sweeteners, candies, gum, ice cream, pastries, puddings, donuts, cakes, soft drinks, seasonings, sauces, hidden sugar in meats and canned foods, alcohol, cocoa, chocolate, and high-natural sugar foods such as exotic fruits, dried fruits, dates, figs, and raisins. Abstain from all forms of wheat & flour: Wheat, wheat flour, pasta, cereal, bread, pizza, crackers, pita bread, bagels, muffins, corn tortillas, soy sauce, gravy, food starch, modified food starch. ------------------------------------ Allowed Food List Protein: Beef, veal, pork, lamb, chicken, turkey, eggs, fish, shellfish, tempeh, tofu. 1 cup - Legumes, buttermilk, yogurt, milk. 1/2 cup - Cottage cheese. Vegetables (1 cup serving) Artichoke, asparagus, bamboo shoots, beans: yellow or green, beets, belgian endives, bok choy, broccoli, brussel sprouts, cabbage, carrots, cauliflower, celery, chicory, chinese cabbage, cucumber, eggplant, endive, escarole, greens, lettuce, jicama, mushrooms, okra, onions, parsley, peppers, pickles (dill), pimentos, radishes, romaine, rutabaga, sauerkraut, snowpeas, spinach, sprouts, summer squash, tomato, tomato juice, turnip, vegetable juice, water chestnuts, watercress, zucchini. Fruit 1 medium - apple 1/2 cup - applesauce, apple juice, fruit cocktail (canned in juice). 3 medium - apricots, plums, kiwi. 1 cup - berries, cranberry juice, grapefruit juice, orange juice, pineapple, pineapple juice, prune juice, rhubarb, watermelon (diced). 1/2 medium - cantaloupe. 1/2 large - grapefruit. 1/4 medium - honeydew. 3 small - lemons, limes. 1 large - nectarine, orange, peach, pear. 2 small - tangerines. 1 small - banana Grains/starchy vegs (1/2 cup) Amaranth, barley, brown rice, corn grits (polenta), kasha, millet, oat bran (raw), oatmeal, quinoa, puffed brown rice, puffed corn, soy cereal, teff, wild rice, beans, corn, lentils, miso, parsnips, peas, potato, sweet potato, plantain, pumpkin, squash (winter, acorn, hubbard, butternut, spaghetti). ------------------------------------ Daily Portions (Exchanges) Breakfast (3 carb, 2 pro) 2 protein 3 grain Lunch (1 carb, 4 pro) 4 protein 1 cup salad or raw vegetables 1 vegetable (cooked) 1 dairy Dinner (2 carb, 4 pro) 4 protein 1 cup salad or raw vegetable 1 vegetable (cooked) 2 grain/starchy vegetable Bedtime (2 carb, 1 pro) 1 fruit 1 dairy _______________________________________________________________ Since I started following this I feel soo much better, I'm never overly hungry and I have a ton more energy. My FBS is always in the high 80's/low 90's and my post-prandial meausurements rarely make it above the one teens. Potatoes are allowed in this list but they seem to spike me so I'll probably be giving those up too. OA is " Overeaters Anonymous " . You can find a list of online meetings here: http://www.oa.org/pdf/OnlineMeetingsList.pdf or just go to the regular OA website for " real " meetings > > I would like to know how to elminate all wheat, flour, and sugar from > one's diet? > What do you eat instead? > > > > what are OA meetings? > To: diabetes > > > > > I came to the conclusion a few months ago that I had a food > > addiction. I > > started " attending " online OA meetings, gave up all wheat, flour > > and sugar in > > any form. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 Sounds like it's working really well for you. Congrats! what are OA meetings? > > To: diabetes > > > > > > > > I came to the conclusion a few months ago that I had a food > > > addiction. I > > > started " attending " online OA meetings, gave up all wheat, > flour > > > and sugar in > > > any form. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 I've been a 'member' of OA for over 30 years. The food plan you describe below might be workable for you, but it would not be workable for me. Sort of how diabetes is too, huh? The foods you are abstaining from would be a threat to my 'abstinence' . Denying myself foods that give me pleasure to eat only begins a series of binges because I feel deprived. Is yours a food plan you are successful on (meaning several months) or one you are hoping will work for you? None of my business but I am curious how this works for others so maybe I can apply it to myself. JUDITH > Here's my meal plan: > > Abstain from all fried foods & caffeine. > > Abstain from all forms of sugar: -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.6/378 - Release Date: 6/28/06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Judith... So at OA you don't HAVE to follow a prescribed diet? You can follow whatever works for you and the meetings are just about support? I've been thinking about going. I need all the help I can get. hehe :-) Re: Re: what are OA meetings? To: diabetes > I've been a 'member' of OA for over 30 years. The food plan you > describebelow might be workable for you, but it would not be > workable for me. Sort > of how diabetes is too, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Yup, that's right. the basic thought of OA is based on AA. It is an emotional problem, not necessarily a physical problem that makes some of us hungry (eating disorders - compulsive overating which is what I have). When I started with OA years ago they had a diet but it made a lot of people sick so they stopped it. then when I started in the '80s (remember I'm old LOL) there were meetings that a person would go to. We suggested 30 meetings in 30 days to see if the program was where a person belonged. then if so, it upscaled to 60 meetings in 60 days. I actually did 365 meetings the first year! Surprised me too. they usually have an agenda and each meeting decides its own agenda on group conscience. Some start by reading from their book, their step book, or meditation book. some have a speaker. Then the floor is open to people sharing where they are 'at' and whatever problems they want. If a meeting is big it might be limitted to 3 min shares, or 5, or if it is small longer ones. There is no 'cross talk' so it isn't like going to a therapist. the meetings all pass the hat because they are self paying to wherever they are allowed to have a meeting and for books and stuff like that. they are support meetings big time and the food plan (not diet) you choose is one of your own design which works for you. Most of the time you figure it out between hearing what works for other people and your own needs. You can also ask the group for a sponsor who you can call daily or as agreed upon, and even what is called a 'food sponsor' who is someone that you call in your next day's food so that it is off your mind. Not everyone does this, but if it helps it is available. I think it is also available on line but I forgot all about it until reading someone's post this week. Not everyone is fat and compulsive overeaters. All of the eating disorders are represented by different people. AND the biggest surprise I had was hearing that many people are not over or under weight and didn't know they had trouble with food until they found out they were diabetic or had cholesterol problems and couldn't give up the necessary foods. there are all kinds of people who benefit from OA. hope some of this helps. It is on line. Just google Overeaters Anonymous. JUDITH > So at OA you don't HAVE to follow a prescribed diet? You can follow > whatever works for you and the meetings are just about support? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.6/378 - Release Date: 6/28/06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 It worked quite well for me until about a month ago when I got super stressed at work and chose to eat it away instead of dealing with the issues at hand. I did feel " deprived " and I struggled at first but after time it became easier because I felt so good both physically and mentally. I also figured out that many of the things in my abstinence list were things that trigger me to eat more anyway. I'm extremely strict on the sugar/flour thing but do occasionally allow myself something fried. The list I provided is what I started out with but over time I figured out some of things on there were really OK in moderation. > > I've been a 'member' of OA for over 30 years. The food plan you describe > below might be workable for you, but it would not be workable for me. Sort > of how diabetes is too, huh? > > The foods you are abstaining from would be a threat to my 'abstinence' . > Denying myself foods that give me pleasure to eat only begins a series of > binges because I feel deprived. > > Is yours a food plan you are successful on (meaning several months) or one > you are hoping will work for you? None of my business but I am curious how > this works for others so maybe I can apply it to myself. > > JUDITH > > > > > Here's my meal plan: > > > > Abstain from all fried foods & caffeine. > > > > Abstain from all forms of sugar: > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.6/378 - Release Date: 6/28/06 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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