Re: meds to take or not, revisited

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> Lili,> > Please be careful with statements you make.> If somebody doesn¹t take their blood pressure meds before a draw based on> what you just wrote, it can be VERY dangerous.> We had a friend do that last year, and he ended up hospitalized.> > Please --- speak carefully everyone.> > No doctor ‹ and I have asked every single one of them ‹ says to have an> empty stomach for a blood draw UNLESS specifically requested for lipids,> etc.> PLEASE remember this is a sharing board, not a medical advice board.> > Thanks,> Sue> Sue,

I don't want to start a fight or anything, If your friend ended up in the hospital it was not solely based on the fact they didn't take their blood pressure meds that morning for a blood draw. I can say this because I am a heart attack survivor, died twice , saw the light. My dad is also a survivor & had bypass. Missing the blood pressure pills for a day is not that critical, if it were people would be dropping like flies. Both, me & my dad have forgot our pills a day on more then one occasion. My mother has horrifically high pressure & has missed hers & not ended up in the hospital.

When you take ANY medication or most vitamins for an extended period of time it builds up a supply in your body & you will be able to miss a dose & not have a visit to the hospital. I want you to consider one more thought. We are all on here saying how the doctors don't know shit & don't listen to us.....maybe you friend had a complaint that doc just blew off in past visits? It just so happened he had an event that sent him to the hospital that particular day & the pills didn't have a thing to do with it but the Doctor SAID it did to cover his ass?

I think even Topper can attest to the fact that the first few day without her meds didn't send her over the edge?

Cindy Sue

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Please don’t start the argument then.

My friend missed ONE DAY – and for you to now speculate on a man’s

lifestyle whom you never met to prove a point is downright heartless.

I can’t believe anyone here will make a categorical statement that it’s ok to miss a day of meds.

I am truly appalled – this is not a medical advice community.

sue

> Lili,

>

> Please be careful with statements you make.

> If somebody doesn’t take their blood pressure meds before a draw based on

> what you just wrote, it can be VERY dangerous.

> We had a friend do that last year, and he ended up hospitalized.

>

> Please --- speak carefully everyone.

>

> No doctor — and I have asked every single one of them — says to have an

> empty stomach for a blood draw UNLESS specifically requested for lipids,

> etc.

> PLEASE remember this is a sharing board, not a medical advice board.

>

> Thanks,

> Sue

>

Sue,

I don't want to start a fight or anything, If your friend ended up in the hospital it was not solely based on the fact they didn't take their blood pressure meds that morning for a blood draw. I can say this because I am a heart attack survivor, died twice , saw the light. My dad is also a survivor & had bypass. Missing the blood pressure pills for a day is not that critical, if it were people would be dropping like flies. Both, me & my dad have forgot our pills a day on more then one occasion. My mother has horrifically high pressure & has missed hers & not ended up in the hospital.

When you take ANY medication or most vitamins for an extended period of time it builds up a supply in your body & you will be able to miss a dose & not have a visit to the hospital. I want you to consider one more thought. We are all on here saying how the doctors don't know shit & don't listen to us.....maybe you friend had a complaint that doc just blew off in past visits? It just so happened he had an event that sent him to the hospital that particular day & the pills didn't have a thing to do with it but the Doctor SAID it did to cover his ass?

I think even Topper can attest to the fact that the first few day without her meds didn't send her over the edge?

Cindy Sue

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>Lili,

>

>It just really set off an alarm in me when I saw you write ³Where I live,

>all blood draws are taken

> > on an empty stomach (unless told otherwise) - no meds, no food, just

>a sip

> > of

> > water - because what you eat can affect the results and make them

>falsely

> > high/low. And, whether you want to believe it or not, this does tell you

> > how you are doing on your meds and whether you need an

>increase/decrease. ³

> > Our friend was due to have much-needed surgery and he was told ³have

>nothing

> > to eat but water the morning before the blood draw.²

> > Well, he took that to mean no meds as well ‹ and when he got to the

>doctor,

> > his blood pressure was so high he almost had a stroke.

> > It was soooooo scary.

> > That¹s all I was getting at ‹ if we are to truly listen to our doctors

>or what

> > we are ³otherwise told² then so be it ‹ do that and trust it.

> > However, most here don¹t seem to like or trust their doctors so they do

>come

> > here for advice and direction.

> > I would just hate for anyone to NOT TAKE THEIR MEDS due to a thyroid

>blood

> > draw if it was not necessary AND could endanger them.

> > There are many who lurk and read and take it all in ‹ and I just wanted

>to

> > clarify.

> >

> > That¹s all.

> > Sue

So people come here for advice, but according to you we're not supposed to

give them advice ! And I find it very strange that nobody over here has ever

died from having a blood draw on an empty stomach when over there it's SO

DANGEROUS ! I think that maybe you should stop insulting people's

intelligence - especially those mysterious 'lurkers' who 'take everything

in' - and give them a little credit for some common sense.

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Please don’t respond to my posts if you have to be so offensive.

I am not into this kind of interchange.

sue

>Lili,

>

>It just really set off an alarm in me when I saw you write “Where I live,

>all blood draws are taken

> > on an empty stomach (unless told otherwise) - no meds, no food, just

>a sip

> > of

> > water - because what you eat can affect the results and make them

>falsely

> > high/low. And, whether you want to believe it or not, this does tell you

> > how you are doing on your meds and whether you need an

>increase/decrease. “

> > Our friend was due to have much-needed surgery and he was told “have

>nothing

> > to eat but water the morning before the blood draw.”

> > Well, he took that to mean no meds as well — and when he got to the

>doctor,

> > his blood pressure was so high he almost had a stroke.

> > It was soooooo scary.

> > That’s all I was getting at — if we are to truly listen to our doctors

>or what

> > we are “otherwise told” then so be it — do that and trust it.

> > However, most here don’t seem to like or trust their doctors so they do

>come

> > here for advice and direction.

> > I would just hate for anyone to NOT TAKE THEIR MEDS due to a thyroid

>blood

> > draw if it was not necessary AND could endanger them.

> > There are many who lurk and read and take it all in — and I just wanted

>to

> > clarify.

> >

> > That’s all.

> > Sue

So people come here for advice, but according to you we're not supposed to

give them advice ! And I find it very strange that nobody over here has ever

died from having a blood draw on an empty stomach when over there it's SO

DANGEROUS ! I think that maybe you should stop insulting people's

intelligence - especially those mysterious 'lurkers' who 'take everything

in' - and give them a little credit for some common sense.

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The one thing I can say is that my mom didn't take her meds one day, probably the day, not just the morning. I don't know maybe forgot after not taking them the first time? We'll never know, they were blood pressure meds and she had a stroke that evening and passed away the following day.JackieSo people come here for advice, but according to you we're not supposed to give them advice ! And I find it very strange that nobody over here has ever died from having a blood draw on an empty stomach when over there it's SO DANGEROUS ! I think that maybe you should stop insulting people's intelligence - especially those mysterious 'lurkers' who 'take everything in' - and give them a little credit for some common sense.

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Jackie,

Sorry to hear about your mom. My mom died of a stroke 13 years ago when I was pregnant with my daughter.

I am just really SICKENED that people would give advice to anyone about their medications and then

mock a man who nearly died just because they don’t see it that way.

I swear to God, nothing makes me angrier than intentional ugliness.

Sue

The one thing I can say is that my mom didn't take her meds one day, probably the day, not just the morning. I don't know maybe forgot after not taking them the first time? We'll never know, they were blood pressure meds and she had a stroke that evening and passed away the following day.

Jackie

So people come here for advice, but according to you we're not supposed to

give them advice ! And I find it very strange that nobody over here has ever

died from having a blood draw on an empty stomach when over there it's SO

DANGEROUS ! I think that maybe you should stop insulting people's

intelligence - especially those mysterious 'lurkers' who 'take everything

in' - and give them a little credit for some common sense.

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>> Jackie,> > Sorry to hear about your mom. My mom died of a stroke 13 years ago when I> was pregnant with my daughter.> > I am just really SICKENED that people would give advice to anyone about> their medications and then> mock a man who nearly died just because they don¹t see it that way.> > I swear to God, nothing makes me angrier than intentional ugliness.> > Sue

Sue,

It is really to bad we can't hear peoples voices when they make a post on here. I really don't see how you can think that anyone is "mocking" a man who died. I don't believe anyone is being "intentionally ugly". It is very important that we all read the words written & not interpret what we "think" the person saying them means. If you feel some one is making an implication or a hurtful remark ask for clairification. It is not anyone intention to be hurtfull on here. Remember we are all a little sensitive due to all our medical problems.

I will say this I know beyond a doubt when it your time to go you are going one way or another. The man could have taken his meds & still died. I DIED during my heart attack & it took them 3 shocks to get me back. I SAW the people meeting me & they were all YELLING " GO BACK "!!!! At that moment I KNEW it was not my time to die. Let me tell you death is not bad, it felt like a wave coming over me & then no pain & pure joy.

now that I wrote this I'll see what else everyone has to say ...lol...

Cindy Sue

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Sue, thank you so much for the condolences. I miss her a lot.  Cindy Sue, I would love to hear more detail about your own experience if you are comfortable sharing more. Jackie~>> Jackie,> > Sorry to hear about your mom. My mom died of a stroke 13 years ago when I> was pregnant with my daughter.> Sue  I DIED during my heart attack & it took them 3 shocks to get me back. I SAW the people meeting me & they were all YELLING " GO BACK "!!!! At that moment I KNEW it was not my time to die. Let me tell you death is not bad, it felt like a wave coming over me & then no pain & pure joy. now that I wrote this I'll see what else everyone has to say ...lol... Cindy Sue_

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WOW..Cindy Sue...

You had a near death experience? WOW..that is sooo

coool!

So...did you see the bright light, A tunnel???

~E:)

--- Cindy abigpurplediamond@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> >

> > Jackie,

> >

> > Sorry to hear about your mom. My mom died of a

> stroke 13 years ago

> when I

> > was pregnant with my daughter.

> >

> > I am just really SICKENED that people would give

> advice to anyone

> about

> > their medications and then

> > mock a man who nearly died just because they don¹t

> see it that way.

> >

> > I swear to God, nothing makes me angrier than

> intentional ugliness.

> >

> > Sue

>

>

>

>

> Sue,

>

> It is really to bad we can't hear peoples voices

> when they make a post

> on here. I really don't see how you can think that

> anyone is " mocking " a

> man who died. I don't believe anyone is being

> " intentionally ugly " . It

> is very important that we all read the words written

> & not interpret

> what we " think " the person saying them means. If you

> feel some one is

> making an implication or a hurtful remark ask for

> clairification. It is

> not anyone intention to be hurtfull on here.

> Remember we are all a

> little sensitive due to all our medical problems.

>

> I will say this I know beyond a doubt when it your

> time to go you are

> going one way or another. The man could have taken

> his meds & still

> died. I DIED during my heart attack & it took them 3

> shocks to get me

> back. I SAW the people meeting me & they were all

> YELLING " GO BACK

> " !!!! At that moment I KNEW it was not my time to

> die. Let me tell you

> death is not bad, it felt like a wave coming over me

> & then no pain &

> pure joy.

>

> now that I wrote this I'll see what else everyone

> has to say ...lol...

> [:-?]

>

> Cindy Sue

>

>

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Jackie,

There really isn't much more to it other then what I wrote on the last post. I remember seeing a crowd of people & I thought my grandpa was my dad (they are VERY similar in build) but I thought, what is Dad doing here I never called him? (It happened at midnight & we all said if something ever happened in the night to let the family sleep so they would be rested for traveling) Then I noticed there were alot of people & it was very bright. I don't remember a tunnel. They were all literally yelling "GO BACK !!!" So I did.

When I opened my eyes the first thing I said was," I died didn't I?" The doctor looked all upset & wouldn't answer me, after the 3rd time asking he finally said, "Yes you did & your a very lucky girl, most people don't come back from that sort of rythm, it took 3 shocks to get you back ". Then I guess they told my Son & hubby what had happened & they came in the room white as sheets.Then they wisk me off to do an angiogram & placed 2 stents end to end & I died again on them. The second time I didn't see the light only listened to the doctors arguing. I asked again,"I died again right?' He said ,"yup you did, only one shock this time."

Some people may not get this part ,but I wish I had got to do a life reveiw & wander around up there a little bit. I would loved to have seen the ripple effect of the things I have done in my life. Good & Bad, it would sure help to see how things work.

Cindy Sue> > Cindy Sue, I would love to hear more detail about your own experience > if you are comfortable sharing more.> > Jackie~>> > I DIED during my heart attack & it took them 3 shocks to get me > > back. I SAW the people meeting me & they were all YELLING " GO BACK > > "!!!! At that moment I KNEW it was not my time to die. Let me tell > > you death is not bad, it felt like a wave coming over me & then no > > pain & pure joy.> >> > now that I wrote this I'll see what else everyone has to > > say ...lol...> >> > Cindy Sue> >> >> > _>

[Guest guest]

THAT is amazing......

~E:)

--- Cindy abigpurplediamond@...> wrote:

>

> Jackie,

>

> There really isn't much more to it other then what

> I wrote on the last

> post. I remember seeing a crowd of people & I

> thought my grandpa was my

> dad (they are VERY similar in build) but I thought,

> what is Dad doing

> here I never called him? (It happened at midnight &

> we all said if

> something ever happened in the night to let the

> family sleep so they

> would be rested for traveling) Then I noticed there

> were alot of people

> & it was very bright. I don't remember a tunnel.

> They were all literally

> yelling " GO BACK !!! " So I did.

>

> When I opened my eyes the first thing I said was, "

> I died didn't I? "

> The doctor looked all upset & wouldn't answer me,

> after the 3rd time

> asking he finally said, " Yes you did & your a very

> lucky girl, most

> people don't come back from that sort of rythm, it

> took 3 shocks to get

> you back " . Then I guess they told my Son & hubby

> what had happened &

> they came in the room white as sheets.Then they wisk

> me off to do an

> angiogram & placed 2 stents end to end & I died

> again on them. The

> second time I didn't see the light only listened to

> the doctors arguing.

> I asked again, " I died again right?' He said , " yup

> you did, only one

> shock this time. "

>

> Some people may not get this part ,but I wish I

> had got to do a life

> reveiw & wander around up there a little bit. I

> would loved to have seen

> the ripple effect of the things I have done in my

> life. Good & Bad, it

> would sure help to see how things work.

>

> Cindy Sue

>

> >

> > Cindy Sue, I would love to hear more detail about

> your own experience

> > if you are comfortable sharing more.

> >

> > Jackie~

> >

> > > I DIED during my heart attack & it took them 3

> shocks to get me

> > > back. I SAW the people meeting me & they were

> all YELLING " GO BACK

> > > " !!!! At that moment I KNEW it was not my time

> to die. Let me tell

> > > you death is not bad, it felt like a wave coming

> over me & then no

> > > pain & pure joy.

> > >

> > > now that I wrote this I'll see what else

> everyone has to

> > > say ...lol...

> > >

> > > Cindy Sue

> > >

> > >

> > > _

> >

>

>

>

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Wow, thank you for sharing Cindy, that's such a fascinating and wonderful thing to hear about. It makes things seem less scary, like it's comforting to know that the things I've believed in all my life (religiously) have some concreteness to them...hard to explain, but thank you for telling us your experiences

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Re: Re: meds to take or not, revisited

THAT is amazing......~E:)--- Cindy <abigpurplediamond (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:> > Jackie,> > There really isn't much more to it other then what> I wrote on the last> post. I remember seeing a crowd of people & I> thought my grandpa was my> dad (they are VERY similar in build) but I thought,> what is Dad doing> here I never called him? (It happened at midnight & > we all said if> something ever happened in the night to let the> family sleep so they> would be rested for traveling) Then I noticed there> were alot of people> & it was very bright. I don't remember a tunnel.> They were all literally> yelling "GO BACK !!!" So I did.> > When I opened my eyes the first thing I said was,"> I died didn't I?"> The doctor looked all upset & wouldn't answer me,> after the 3rd time> asking he finally said, "Yes you did & your a very> lucky girl, most> people don't come back from that sort of rythm, it> took 3 shocks to get> you back ". Then I guess they told my Son & hubby> what had happened & > they came in the room white as sheets.Then they wisk> me off to do an> angiogram & placed 2 stents end to end & I died> again on them. The> second time I didn't see the light only listened to> the doctors arguing.> I asked again,"I died again right?' He said ,"yup> you did, only one> shock this time."> > Some people may not get this part ,but I wish I> had got to do a life> reveiw & wander around up there a little bit. I> would loved to have seen> the ripple effect of the things I have done in my> life. Good & Bad, it> would sure help to see how things work.> > Cindy Sue> > >> > Cindy Sue, I would love to hear more detail about> your own experience> > if you are comfortable sharing more.> >> > Jackie~> >> > > I DIED during my heart attack & it took them 3> shocks to get me> > > back. I SAW the people meeting me & they were> all YELLING " GO BACK> > > "!!!! At that moment I KNEW it was not my time> to die. Let me tell> > > you death is not bad, it felt like a wave coming> over me & then no> > > pain & pure joy.> > >> > > now that I wrote this I'll see what else> everyone has to> > > say ...lol...> > >> > > Cindy Sue> > >> > >> > > _> >> > > TOTAL-Thyroidectomy 26 months post-op.__________________________________________________________Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains.http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097

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the sad part is... with most of the time you're let in on 'secrets' you aren't supposed to remember them.. so when you come back and you get glimpses of the inner workings or you instinctively know what was what, that's why. does that make sense? lol

Re: Re: meds to take or not, revisited

THAT is amazing......~E:)--- Cindy <abigpurplediamond (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:> > Jackie,> > There really isn't much more to it other then what> I wrote on the last> post. I remember seeing a crowd of people & I> thought my grandpa was my> dad (they are VERY similar in build) but I thought,> what is Dad doing> here I never called him? (It happened at midnight & > we all said if> something ever happened in the night to let the> family sleep so they> would be rested for traveling) Then I noticed there> were alot of people> & it was very bright. I don't remember a tunnel.> They were all literally> yelling "GO BACK !!!" So I did.> > When I opened my eyes the first thing I said was,"> I died didn't I?"> The doctor looked all upset & wouldn't answer me,> after the 3rd time> asking he finally said, "Yes you did & your a very> lucky girl, most> people don't come back from that sort of rythm, it> took 3 shocks to get> you back ". Then I guess they told my Son & hubby> what had happened & > they came in the room white as sheets.Then they wisk> me off to do an> angiogram & placed 2 stents end to end & I died> again on them. The> second time I didn't see the light only listened to> the doctors arguing.> I asked again,"I died again right?' He said ,"yup> you did, only one> shock this time."> > Some people may not get this part ,but I wish I> had got to do a life> reveiw & wander around up there a little bit. I> would loved to have seen> the ripple effect of the things I have done in my> life. Good & Bad, it> would sure help to see how things work.> > Cindy Sue> > >> > Cindy Sue, I would love to hear more detail about> your own experience> > if you are comfortable sharing more.> >> > Jackie~> >> > > I DIED during my heart attack & it took them 3> shocks to get me> > > back. I SAW the people meeting me & they were> all YELLING " GO BACK> > > "!!!! At that moment I KNEW it was not my time> to die. Let me tell> > > you death is not bad, it felt like a wave coming> over me & then no> > > pain & pure joy.> > >> > > now that I wrote this I'll see what else> everyone has to> > > say ...lol...> > >> > > Cindy Sue> > >> > >> > > _> >> > > TOTAL-Thyroidectomy 26 months post-op.__________________________________________________________Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains.http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097

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Yes it makes sense, so far nothing like that has happened. I am always aware & paying attention to the "little stuff" I have also learned to listen to "The Little Voice Inside", it is always accurate & I have been sorry when I brushed it aside.

Cindy Sue

>> the sad part is... with most of the time you're let in on 'secrets' you aren't supposed to remember them.. so when you come back and you get glimpses of the inner workings or you instinctively know what was what, that's why. does that make sense? lol>

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Cindy Sue,Thanks so much for sharing.  It reconfirms a lot of beliefs I have :)So, did you want to go back? Or was it a non choice kind of thing, like breathing is not a choice, but something that just happens. I think we all have a time we are meant to go, but then when I hear stories like yours (and I have heard and read a lot) I wonder, if you had chosen to stay (dead) would you have been able to? Or was it a choice you couldn't make because it's just not your time? How would the life review have helped you? Maybe you would make different choices now?  In the huge picture, stretching myself here, maybe you weren't meant to have the review because your not supposed to change any of the choices you would make. ???I'm glad your still here to share :)Thanks again :)JackieJackie, There really isn't much more to it other then what I wrote on the last post. I remember seeing a crowd of people  &  I thought my grandpa was my dad (they are VERY similar in build) but I thought, what is Dad doing here I never called him? (It happened at midnight & we all said if something ever happened in the night to let the family sleep so they would be rested for traveling) Then I noticed there were alot of people & it was very bright. I don't remember a tunnel. They were all literally yelling "GO BACK !!!" So I did. When I opened my eyes the first thing I said was," I died didn't I?" The doctor looked all upset & wouldn't answer me, after the 3rd time asking he finally said, "Yes you did & your a very lucky girl, most people don't come back from that sort of rythm, it took 3 shocks to get you back ". Then I guess they told my Son & hubby what had happened & they came in the room white as sheets.Then they wisk me off to do an angiogram & placed 2 stents end to end & I died again on them. The second time I didn't see the light only listened to the doctors arguing. I asked again,"I died again right?' He said ,"yup you did, only one shock this time." Some people may not get this part ,but I wish I had got to do a life reveiw & wander around up there a little bit. I would loved to have seen the ripple effect of the things I have done in my life. Good & Bad, it would sure help to see how things work. Cindy Sue

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Sylvia Brown says that we all have 5 exit points, so if we don't go on the first four, the fifth is the last one.

I think we all have a time we are meant to go, but then when I hear stories like yours (and I have heard and read a lot) I wonder, if you had chosen to stay

(dead) would you have been able to? Or was it a choice you couldn't make because it's just not your time?

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Jackie,

I don't recall not wanting to go back only doing what I was told....lol...which is unusal for me. I don't think I would have been allowed to stay if I had wanted to. I never thought about the idea I shouldn't have had a life review. I am sure it would have changed at least some of my ways of handling things. There are days I wish I had been able to stay , but I know my son would have been lost without me. He always gives me cards saying how he wouldn't be where he is today if it weren't for his mommy. He's almost 26 now & he still wants me around doing things with him. I was lucky that way, my son has never gone threw the,"your embarrassing, stay away" phase.

Cindy Sue

> > >> > Jackie,> >> > There really isn't much more to it other then what I wrote on the > > last post. I remember seeing a crowd of people & I thought my > > grandpa was my dad (they are VERY similar in build) but I thought, > > what is Dad doing here I never called him? (It happened at midnight > > & we all said if something ever happened in the night to let the > > family sleep so they would be rested for traveling) Then I noticed > > there were alot of people & it was very bright. I don't remember a > > tunnel. They were all literally yelling "GO BACK !!!" So I did.> >> > When I opened my eyes the first thing I said was," I died didn't > > I?" The doctor looked all upset & wouldn't answer me, after the 3rd > > time asking he finally said, "Yes you did & your a very lucky girl, > > most people don't come back from that sort of rythm, it took 3 > > shocks to get you back ". Then I guess they told my Son & hubby > > what had happened & they came in the room white as sheets.Then they > > wisk me off to do an angiogram & placed 2 stents end to end & I > > died again on them. The second time I didn't see the light only > > listened to the doctors arguing. I asked again,"I died again > > right?' He said ,"yup you did, only one shock this time."> >> > Some people may not get this part ,but I wish I had got to do a > > life reveiw & wander around up there a little bit. I would loved to > > have seen the ripple effect of the things I have done in my life. > > Good & Bad, it would sure help to see how things work.> >> > Cindy Sue> >>

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And scoffers would say that you were just having some sort of "chemical" experience, but I say nay. The Big Book says that "we shall be known as we were known". I really believe that people are seeing what is actually going on.

Re: meds to take or not, revisited

Yes it makes sense, so far nothing like that has happened. I am always aware & paying attention to the "little stuff" I have also learned to listen to "The Little Voice Inside", it is always accurate & I have been sorry when I brushed it aside.

Cindy Sue

>> the sad part is... with most of the time you're let in on 'secrets' you aren't supposed to remember them.. so when you come back and you get glimpses of the inner workings or you instinctively know what was what, that's why. does that make sense? lol>

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Cindy Sue,

When my mom would visit me in dreams, I would ask about the " other side " and all

I would

get is we're not allowed to know. Probably because we would rather be there, LOL

My friend had a heart attack at 35, her son is now 21 and he is like your boy,

he loves his

mama

Jackie

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> Jackie,

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> I don't recall not wanting to go back only doing what I was

> told....lol...which is unusal for me. I don't think I would have been

> allowed to stay if I had wanted to. I never thought about the idea I

> shouldn't have had a life review. I am sure it would have changed at

> least some of my ways of handling things. There are days I wish I had

> been able to stay , but I know my son would have been lost without me.

> He always gives me cards saying how he wouldn't be where he is today if

> it weren't for his mommy. He's almost 26 now & he still wants me around

> doing things with him. I was lucky that way, my son has never gone threw

> the, " your embarrassing, stay away " phase.

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> Cindy Sue