RE: Hashimoto's & Fibromyalgia connection, etc. Revisited - Topper?

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Lily and Judy,

Thank you so much for your responses. I believe I

will try going back on the Armour again - at least

until I see my doc on Feb 6th (he might want me to try

another med...we'll see)...but for now anyway, I need

to take care of myself how I see fit. And I can't take

this anymore. I will increase at lower doses and over

a longer period of time.

I've been totally off Armour now for almost 1 month.

Do you think starting at 30mg of Armour is too high?

Topper, you've talked before about treating yourself -

could I have your thoughts too on how much to take and

how often to increase it?

Thanks again everyone - I don't know what I'd do

without you!!!

--- liliane wise lililiz@...> wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> Well, I'm no expert, but an increase of 30mg every

> two weeks does sound like

> a lot to me. I only increased by 15mg at a time -

> and not every two weeks -

> it depended on how I felt. But one thing is certain,

> without any replacement

> hormone at all there's no way you're going to feel

> better. Hashimoto's isn't

> just going to go away by itself. The condition is

> just going to get worse.

> You could try starting again and increasing more

> slowly - but you are going

> to need to increase because the thyroid gland is

> slowly being destroyed.

> However, one thing you should think about is your

> adrenals because if they

> aren't working correctly the body is unable to use

> the hormone you're giving

> it. I don't know how you go about testing this

> because I've never done it.

> Didn't need to. My doctor took one look at me and

> knew I had an adrenal

> problem, and started me on a low dose of

> hydrocortisone. My adrenals have

> now packed up completely and I have to take 40mg of

> hydrocortisone every day

> - and now, at last, I'm beginning to feel more like

> a normal humane being !

> lol There has been a lot of discusion about adrenals

> here, so perhaps you

> could go back to some of the old posts and read up

> on it.

>

> Good luck, Lily

>

>

> >

> >Reply-To: The_Thyroid_Support_Group

> >To: The_Thyroid_Support_Group

> >Subject: RE:

> Hashimoto's & Fibromyalgia

> >connection, etc. Revisited

> >Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:04:16 -0800 (PST)

> >

> >Hi Lily,

> >

> >Last year, my doc had me start at 30mg of Armour

> and

> >increased it by 30mg every 2 weeks. I was up to

> 180mg

> >at one point. I don't recall ever really feeling

> any

> >better on Armour than I did without it, except at

> one

> >point...last summer when I reached 120mg, after a

> >week, I had 2 glorious days in which I had energy -

> I

> >never felt so good in my life.

> >

> >And then after those 2 days, I crashed and have

> never

> >felt that way again. At that time, my doc and I

> >thought maybe I needed more - as such, I went up to

> >160mg and then 180mg. When I felt no difference, I

> >slowly worked my way back down...all the way to

> 60mg,

> >and stopped on 12/25/06. Until the past week or so,

> I

> >continued to feel the same (low energy).

> >

> >A few people on this group had mentioned to me that

> my

> >doc had me taking too much Armour too fast...that

> >maybe I missed my " sweet spot " . I welcome any

> advice.

> >I'm so miserable.

> >

> >Thanks so much for your response,

> >

> >

> >

> >--- liliane wise lililiz@...> wrote:

> >

> > > Sounds to me like you just weren't taking enough

> > > Armour. How much were you

> > > taking, and how often did you increase the dose

> ?

> > >

> > > Lily

> > >

> > >

> > > >From: " J. McCormick "

> mccormicklj@...>

> > > >Reply-To:

> The_Thyroid_Support_Group

> > > >To: The_Thyroid_Support_Group

> > > >Subject:

> Hashimoto's &

> > > Fibromyalgia connection,

> > > >etc. Revisited

> > > >Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:33:00 -0800 (PST)

> > > >

> > > >Hi everyone,

> > > >

> > > >You might remember me as the one with

> Hashimoto's

> > > who

> > > >stopped taking her Armour on Dec. 25th and

> wrote in

> > > >with questions. I pasted one of my older posts

> in

> > > this

> > > >email for reference. Even though my thyroid

> isn't

> > > dead

> > > >yet and I was hoping to go HYPERthyroid and get

> > > RAI,

> > > >some of you said you believed I would go

> > > HYPOthyroid.

> > > >I'm afraid you could be right... Can I get more

> > > >thoughts and advice?

> > > >

> > > >My basal temps have been really weird, but

> showing

> > > an

> > > >overall decreasing pattern (I chart them on a

> > > graph).

> > > >As the past few weeks have gone by, my lower

> back

> > > >(fibromyalgia) continues to hurt badly, I

> become

> > > >increasingly tired, kind of depressed, cold

> hands

> > > and

> > > >feet, water retention, and have constipation.

> At

> > > first

> > > >when I stopped the Armour, my moods were

> better, my

> > > >energy level seemed the same, and I actually

> felt

> > > >somewhat HYPER at times. As Topper mentioned to

> me,

> > > >maybe by body was using up its stored T4.

> > > >

> > > >Here is where I'm confused though...my temps

> last

> > > week

> > > >were hanging around 98.1 and then suddenly on

> > > Friday

> > > >Jan 12th, it dove to 97.2. That night, I became

> > > really

> > > >sick and had a lot of vomitting (mainly water)

> and

> > > >diarrhea. The next morning, I still felt kind

> of

> > > sick

> > > >- mainly tired though, and I was no longer

> throwing

> > > up

> > > >or going to the bathroom. My temp that morning

> shot

> > > up

> > > >to 98.3 (not high enough that it's a fever, but

> > > high

> > > >for me lately). SO, did I have a flu bug or

> what?

> > > Is

> > > >my thyroid trying to work???Topper, did you

> ever

> > > have

> > > >this experience as you started going HYPO?

> > > >

> > > >Yesterday, my basal temp was 98.1 and this

> morning

> > > it

> > > >was 97.9. I took my temp this evening out of

> > > >curiosity, and it's only 97.7. I feel tired,

> achy,

> > > and

> > > >nauseous.

> > > >

> > > >The main reason I stopped taking the Armour was

> > > >because it really felt like it wasn't helping

> me.

> > > I'm

> > > >wondering if it was actually helping me a

> little

> > > bit.

> > > >I don't see my doc until Feb 6th and I don't

> know

> > > what

> > > >to do. I think I want to try a different

> thyroid

> > > med.

> > > >I wish I could look into the future and know

> what

> > > my

> > > >thyroid will do...I hate this Hashis - I wish

> my

>

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