Re: jackie/gallbladder

January 15, 2007

Jacke — how long have you suffered from the gallbladder attacks and what are they like?

I am beginning to think I may be having them

I have pain in my upper right abdomen, really near my right breastbone and under that, sometimes my right shoulder blade...

Did you have any tests/treatment for yours?

my husband just had his gall baldder out in Sept after 3 really bad attacks....

Sue

E~

I would have to agree. I personally end up staying with my ($15.00 co pay) docs, for the most obvious reasons, yet nothing is ever followed up on, or solved.

They are treating me (my body) as separate things, while I think they are all linked... to me being hypo.

I've been researching and hypo can be linked to...

Asthma. The thyroid squishes the neck and people feel like they can't breath. That would be me, they have me on Advair, there is no family history, and even the lung doc says my lungs sound fine, but yet they treat it anyway.

Now my kidneys are having issues, I believe due to the treatment of steroids from the asthma meds.

They give me pain meds (800 ibuprophen, that I don't take) for the pain in my hip and foot, which even I was thinking was from a herniated disk I have, but I have now read that hypo can cause that kind of pain.

I also am having gallbladder problems, I have now discovered can be related to being hypo because the digestion is slowed down.

Hypo can be caused by a viral infection, I had spiral meningitis in 2001, and everything went down hill form then on.

Do I try to explain to them I think these are all connected?

Do I bite the bullet and pay to see a private doc?

Thanks for all of your time and thoughts, I'd appreciate any and all input. I was up all night with a gallbladder attack and am on overdrive.

Peace, Jackie~

January 15, 2007

I used to have those.... felt like someone was stabbing me on my right side. I never had gall stones but after looking at the surgeon's report of my gb, it was large, enflamed and was ready to cause me major trouble. Glad they paid attention and removed it. Looking back now.... if I would have just given up the allergy foods... but, that's the price of learning .

Re: jackie/gallbladder

Jacke — how long have you suffered from the gallbladder attacks and what are they like?I am beginning to think I may be having them :(I have pain in my upper right abdomen, really near my right breastbone and under that, sometimes my right shoulder blade...Did you have any tests/treatment for yours? my husband just had his gall baldder out in Sept after 3 really bad attacks....SueOn 1/15/07 4:22 PM, "Ken & Jackie Reimer" <quest4us (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote:

E~ I would have to agree. I personally end up staying with my ($15.00 co pay) docs, for the most obvious reasons, yet nothing is ever followed up on, or solved.They are treating me (my body) as separate things, while I think they are all linked... to me being hypo.I've been researching and hypo can be linked to...Asthma. The thyroid squishes the neck and people feel like they can't breath. That would be me, they have me on Advair, there is no family history, and even the lung doc says my lungs sound fine, but yet they treat it anyway. Now my kidneys are having issues, I believe due to the treatment of steroids from the asthma meds. They give me pain meds (800 ibuprophen, that I don't take) for the pain in my hip and foot, which even I was thinking was from a herniated disk I have, but I have now read that hypo can cause that kind of pain.I also am having gallbladder problems, I have now discovered can be related to being hypo because the digestion is slowed down.Hypo can be caused by a viral infection, I had spiral meningitis in 2001, and everything went down hill form then on. Do I try to explain to them I think these are all connected?Do I bite the bullet and pay to see a private doc?Thanks for all of your time and thoughts, I'd appreciate any and all input. I was up all night with a gallbladder attack and am on overdrive.Peace, Jackie~

January 15, 2007

Yes, VERY bad pain in the abdomen, right side, sometimes in the center, goes around to under the right shoulder blade. comes in waves (like labor).So bad that if I hadn't had them before I would head to the hospital. Mine typically last for hours. Nothing really I can pin point that triggers it, which makes it even more stressful. You would think grease, but that isn't always true for me. We eat out almost never and I cook good, low fat, whole food.They started near 2000 and have gotten more frequent and volatile as time passes. I have a constant ache, and then when an attack hits, oh baby. In 2002 I had a HIDA scan at the Mayo clinic in AZ, it shows how the organs, gallbladder, liver, etc... work and at what level. I was told they work, but never at what level.Was treated by several homeopathic docs during the years from 2003 to 2006.In 2006 I was just like, get this thing out of me! So they sent me for an ultra sound, only to show no stones. I guess they figure it is in my head.I am calling tomorrow to make an appt with yet another McDoctor. I'll try it this one last time, and if no successful listening etc... I'll be forced to save up and go private sector. Keep me updated on what you find out about your pains, it helps to be able to share info.How is your husband feeling after having his out? Is he hypo too?Best to you, JackieJacke — how long have you suffered from the gallbladder attacks and what are they like?I am beginning to think I may be having them :(I have pain in my upper right abdomen, really near my right breastbone and under that, sometimes my right shoulder blade...Did you have any tests/treatment for yours? my husband just had his gall baldder out in Sept after 3 really bad attacks....SueOn 1/15/07 4:22 PM, "Ken & Jackie Reimer" <quest4us (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote:

January 15, 2007

, I certainly feel like mine is enlarged and inflamed. is it too late for me? What are the allergy foods?JackieI used to have those.... felt like someone was stabbing me on my right side. I never had gall stones but after looking at the surgeon's report of my gb, it was large, enflamed and was ready to cause me major trouble. Glad they paid attention and removed it. Looking back now.... if I would have just given up the allergy foods... but, that's the price of learning .

January 16, 2007

Hi Jackie,

Well the pain is definitely what I have but it’s very tolerable for me and now almost a nightly thing so I am concerned but just not in a place to undergo extensive testing and/or treatment right now due to time constraints but once things settle down, probably February I plan to ask for a scan to check for stones.

My husband had three very bad attacks along with vomiting and they checked for kidney stones first and found none. The next time they sent him for a CT scan and they saw “so many stones they could not count them” but his urgency was that one had come out and lodged into the opening of his pancreas and was causing him pain and dangerous conditions so his gall bladder came out after three days of no eating, antibiotics, pain killers and stabilization. They first took out the lodged stone through a tube down his throat and then the next day did the gallbladder removal.

He seems fine. I think he’s hypo – had MANY symptoms but our labs still use old ranges so they say he’s fine that way.

He had started on lipid drugs for high cholesterol two months earlier and I think that brought on the attacks. Lipid drugs flush the cholesterol in large amounts out of the liver and he just didn’t have the means to process it – his stones were the cholesterol type.

He’s fine so far as we can tell — it’s supposed to be “fine” to live without a gallbaldder but I have mixed feelings.

As far as yours — you have they symptoms so I wonder what else it can be — and why no stones but the classic pain/symptoms? That can make it hard to “fix.”

Sue

Yes, VERY bad pain in the abdomen, right side, sometimes in the center, goes around to under the right shoulder blade. comes in waves (like labor).

So bad that if I hadn't had them before I would head to the hospital. Mine typically last for hours.

Nothing really I can pin point that triggers it, which makes it even more stressful. You would think grease, but that isn't always true for me. We eat out almost never and I cook good, low fat, whole food.

They started near 2000 and have gotten more frequent and volatile as time passes. I have a constant ache, and then when an attack hits, oh baby.

In 2002 I had a HIDA scan at the Mayo clinic in AZ, it shows how the organs, gallbladder, liver, etc... work and at what level. I was told they work, but never at what level.

Was treated by several homeopathic docs during the years from 2003 to 2006.

In 2006 I was just like, get this thing out of me! So they sent me for an ultra sound, only to show no stones.

I guess they figure it is in my head.

I am calling tomorrow to make an appt with yet another McDoctor. I'll try it this one last time, and if no successful listening etc... I'll be forced to save up and go private sector.

Keep me updated on what you find out about your pains, it helps to be able to share info.

How is your husband feeling after having his out? Is he hypo too?

Best to you, Jackie

January 16, 2007

For me I am allergic to yeast, dairy (cow & sheep), cinnamon, oregano, several spices, strawberries and lots of other foods. I think possibly my gall bladder was bothered by my constant IBS because I refused to give up my allergens. So the only advice I could tell you would be to give up any known allergens and maybe switch to foods that don't have lots of additives or preservatives as it will be harder for your body to process which will be harder on your gall bladder (if it's dying.. it doesn't need help LOL).

You may want to switch to a diet of rice cooked in chicken broth.. very bland but unless you are allergic to chicken (or something in the broth) you should get some relief from gall symptoms (if they are digestional related) because rice is hypoallergenic.

Let me know what happens...

andrea

Re: jackie/gallbladder

, I certainly feel like mine is enlarged and inflamed. is it too late for me? What are the allergy foods?

Jackie

I used to have those.... felt like someone was stabbing me on my right side. I never had gall stones but after looking at the surgeon's report of my gb, it was large, enflamed and was ready to cause me major trouble. Glad they paid attention and removed it. Looking back now.... if I would have just given up the allergy foods... but, that's the price of learning .

January 16, 2007

HI Sue,So glad that your hubby is doing well. I have many friends who have had their gallbladders out and are doing well years later. At this point I just want them to take it out already. My friend who is a nurse is concerned because when they finally took hers out, it just fell apart it was so diseased. I don't want that scenario.And if they have to take it, take it now while I am in my forties rather than wait and it gives me problems down the road and I am older and less able to heal. I have a Dr. appt with anew Dr. next Friday, cross your fingers for me that he has some idea of what he is doing and that he prescribes Armour. Be well, JackieHi Jackie,Well the pain is definitely what I have but it’s very tolerable for me and now almost a nightly thing so I am concerned but just not in a place to undergo extensive testing and/or treatment right now due to time constraints but once things settle down, probably February I plan to ask for a scan to check for stones.My husband had three very bad attacks along with vomiting and they checked for kidney stones first and found none. The next time they sent him for a CT scan and they saw “so many stones they could not count them” but his urgency was that one had come out and lodged into the opening of his pancreas and was causing him pain and dangerous conditions so his gall bladder came out after three days of no eating, antibiotics, pain killers and stabilization. They first took out the lodged stone through a tube down his throat and then the next day did the gallbladder removal. He seems fine. I think he’s hypo – had MANY symptoms but our labs still use old ranges so they say he’s fine that way.He had started on lipid drugs for high cholesterol two months earlier and I think that brought on the attacks. Lipid drugs flush the cholesterol in large amounts out of the liver and he just didn’t have the means to process it – his stones were the cholesterol type.He’s fine so far as we can tell — it’s supposed to be “fine” to live without a gallbaldder but I have mixed feelings.As far as yours — you have they symptoms so I wonder what else it can be — and why no stones but the classic pain/symptoms? That can make it hard to “fix.”SueOn 1/15/07 7:30 PM, "Ken & Jackie Reimer" <quest4us (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote:

January 17, 2007

HI ,The only allergies I have that I know of are penicillin and shellfish and I avoid both.How did you find out you were allergic to all those things?I make mostly organic, fresh meals for myself and my family. Low on fat and meat protein only about twice a week in small portions. The last time I had a huge GB attack was after a carne sada (steak) burrito. It only had the steak and guacamole, I didn't even eat the flour wrap.The one the other day was spurred by chicken (I think). maybe I don't tolerate meat protein? Right now i've been living on apples and carrots, they seem to be nice to me... so far.BUT I am hungry!Oh, and i ordered the saliva test from the Canary Club. Should I wait and see if the new Dr. will order these tests? Or go ahead an do the test? If it's do the test, any pointers? Stop Armour???JackieFor me I am allergic to yeast, dairy (cow & sheep), cinnamon, oregano, several spices, strawberries and lots of other foods. I think possibly my gall bladder was bothered by my constant IBS because I refused to give up my allergens. So the only advice I could tell you would be to give up any known allergens and maybe switch to foods that don't have lots of additives or preservatives as it will be harder for your body to process which will be harder on your gall bladder (if it's dying.. it doesn't need help LOL). You may want to switch to a diet of rice cooked in chicken broth.. very bland but unless you are allergic to chicken (or something in the broth) you should get some relief from gall symptoms (if they are digestional related) because rice is hypoallergenic. Let me know what happens... andrea

January 17, 2007

Hi Jackie --

Werid thing is, last month, my husband’s mother, all the way down in Florida

(we are in Texas) started having the same symptoms he had and ended up hospitlilzed.

They could NOT FIND her gallbladder and she never had it out but she had a large

gallbladder stone blocking her intestinal ducts — how WERID is that?

I have been having that upper/breastbone pain and a friend just wrote me she is having that plus the

shoulderblade pain too and HER HUSBAND had his gallbaldder out last year.

Could this be an epidemic or what? Geeezzzzzzzzzz! Weird!

Sue

HI Sue,

So glad that your hubby is doing well.

I have many friends who have had their gallbladders out and are doing well years later.

At this point I just want them to take it out already.

My friend who is a nurse is concerned because when they finally took hers out, it just fell apart it was so diseased. I don't want that scenario.

And if they have to take it, take it now while I am in my forties rather than wait and it gives me problems down the road and I am older and less able to heal.

I have a Dr. appt with anew Dr. next Friday, cross your fingers for me that he has some idea of what he is doing and that he prescribes Armour.

Be well, Jackie

..

January 17, 2007

Wow, that is weird.So, she was hospitalized, then what? Were they able to zap the stone or something? They never took her GB out? JackieHi Jackie --Werid thing is, last month, my husband’s mother, all the way down in Florida (we are in Texas) started having the same symptoms he had and ended up hospitlilzed.They could NOT FIND her gallbladder and she never had it out but she had a largegallbladder stone blocking her intestinal ducts — how WERID is that?I have been having that upper/breastbone pain and a friend just wrote me she is having that plus the shoulderblade pain too and HER HUSBAND had his gallbaldder out last year.Could this be an epidemic or what? Geeezzzzzzzzzz! Weird!Sue

January 17, 2007

They did remove the stone and said when they did find what they “think” was her gallbaldder it was so shriveled up they couldn’t be sure if it was her GB!

She is in her 70s and very active, healthy etc... So this was really strange.

The doctors just left it at that.

Sue

Wow, that is weird.

So, she was hospitalized, then what? Were they able to zap the stone or something? They never took her GB out?

Jackie

January 17, 2007

Whew, I'm glad to hear she got some relief. makes me think maybe to get mine out sooner rather than later.JackieThey did remove the stone and said when they did find what they “think” was her gallbaldder it was so shriveled up they couldn’t be sure if it was her GB!She is in her 70s and very active, healthy etc... So this was really strange.The doctors just left it at that.Sue

January 18, 2007

What I find most confusing is that they are not even sure it WAS a gallbaldder they took out — what the heck?

She had vomiting for three days – that was her main symptom.

Sometimes we just never know if it’s a “simple” flu or something serious and that’s what can start me off into a tailspin/frenzy of worry some days...

I guess that’s why so many of us here go online and read all the books we do — to try and stay somewhat educated.

sue

Whew, I'm glad to hear she got some relief. makes me think maybe to get mine out sooner rather than later.

Jackie

They did remove the stone and said when they did find what they “think” was her gallbaldder it was so shriveled up they couldn’t be sure if it was her GB!

She is in her 70s and very active, healthy etc... So this was really strange.

The doctors just left it at that.

Sue

January 18, 2007

When I was a kid around 12 or 13 I was having a lot of moodiness, fatigue, etc. and my docs after going through all the tests and coming up normal said that because I had red hair (strawberry blonde) and blue eyes, I was more suseptible to allergies as red-heads tend to just have certain dispositions. So I went to an allergist and they did prick testing and breathing tests and found out that I had lots of food, indoor/outdoor allergies and gave me meds to help. I was fine after being on the meds, although I still ate some of the bad foods.... *idiot* lol. I went off the meds (many steroids and things like claritin, inhalers, etc. & started getting depo shots, because I preferred them to the bc pills I had been constantly taking since age 14. I stopped them after a year or two and tried one again about 4 years later... made me really sick so after it went out of my system, I had m tubes tied, no hormonal problems since.) after I turned 18 or 19 and the following year, my thyroid was inflammed and I was very very hypo. Now that I'm on the right dosage, my symptoms are made worse by allergies that sneak in or by not getting enough sleep, not taking vitamins, or eating balanced. If I do all of those things, I'm relatively fine.

This past year my gland was so inflamed I was getting choked on my vitamins and was having trouble swallowing. My primary doc & ENT said my gland may have to come out. Well... my primary doc rxed me allegra around the same time and I noticed when I took the allegra that I had no trouble breathing, less trouble swallowing and that I could really function well... after a few weeks, all of the symptoms of an enlarged gland went away. So now my docs say that my ultrasound results are still good, no restriction and I don't need to have my gland removed as of right now. If I miss a dose of allegra... oh I can tell immediately . Also, I was having reactions constantly in my old place and so I was in a state of 'shock' all the time... thank god for the adrenal pills..

Interesting isn't it?? And many docs try to say there is no connection of the thyroid & adrenal glands... I'm living proof of it.

It's interesting how something so simple can be the answer.... if you have any type of allergies, no matter how small, you are at a higher risk of having or developing adrenal fatigue as a result. Think about it this way of an equation... allergic reaction = $1...

if you spend $1 every day on a cup of coffee, it isn't a large purchase, but over the course of a year or your lifetime, that adds up and pretty soon, you have spent over $1800 in coffee after 5 years! All of a sudden, the reality that if you wouldn't have drank that cup of coffee, that you would have more money in the bank, drawing interest and keeping your account full, hits you. You realize everything you could have spent that money on or what you could have done to make it better & last longer.

Well, realizing you spent that money and are out almost 2 grand, is like having a bad reaction... over time you might get the sniffles, itchy eyes, rashes, hives, etc. and nothing really happens... and you say like I did foolishly...' oh, i'm allergic to it, but it doesn't bother me...' until one day you wake up and BAM!! You have fibromyalgia, start to miscarry, so you have to have a d & c, develop severe allergies to the foods that 'didn't bother you before', and can't really leave your house because it is a 'safe zone' and the world outside is filled with microscopic culprits, have your credit severely damaged because you're too sick to work, then when you can work, you're allergic to your workplace, etc.....

I was like that for about 5 years and I didn't know why... STRESS is the WORST thing you can do for allergies... that's my big advice... don't stress... it taxes the adrenals as much as bad reactions do. One day your body may not be able to tolerate the normal reactions that you don't notice... eventhough they happen and suddenly you find yourself breathing in those particles of peanut dust at Five Guys and realize... oh hey, there's that bee sting feeling in my heart I feel again, or... oh, here's the asthma attack LOL.

And cinnamon used to bother me a little bit, but the other day at work I smelled it and I started getting flu like symptoms (mini fibro attack), shivers, shaky, diarrhea type symptoms... just over the smell of cinnamon!! And they were done baking.. just the residue in the pan was left. The other day when we were baking cinnamon buns, I got so sick I had to leave. What people don't realize is that ANY of those symptoms, even the minor ones IS or CAN lead to anaphylactic shock..

I hope that helps .

Re: jackie/gallbladder

HI ,

The only allergies I have that I know of are penicillin and shellfish and I avoid both.

How did you find out you were allergic to all those things?

I make mostly organic, fresh meals for myself and my family. Low on fat and meat protein only about twice a week in small portions.

The last time I had a huge GB attack was after a carne sada (steak) burrito. It only had the steak and guacamole, I didn't even eat the flour wrap.

The one the other day was spurred by chicken (I think). maybe I don't tolerate meat protein? Right now i've been living on apples and carrots, they seem to be nice to me... so far.

BUT I am hungry!

Oh, and i ordered the saliva test from the Canary Club. Should I wait and see if the new Dr. will order these tests? Or go ahead an do the test? If it's do the test, any pointers? Stop Armour???

Jackie

For me I am allergic to yeast, dairy (cow & sheep), cinnamon, oregano, several spices, strawberries and lots of other foods. I think possibly my gall bladder was bothered by my constant IBS because I refused to give up my allergens. So the only advice I could tell you would be to give up any known allergens and maybe switch to foods that don't have lots of additives or preservatives as it will be harder for your body to process which will be harder on your gall bladder (if it's dying.. it doesn't need help LOL).

You may want to switch to a diet of rice cooked in chicken broth.. very bland but unless you are allergic to chicken (or something in the broth) you should get some relief from gall symptoms (if they are digestional related) because rice is hypoallergenic.

Let me know what happens...

andrea

January 18, 2007

I make mostly organic, fresh meals for myself and my family. Low

on fat and meat protein only about twice a week in small portions.

>

> The last time I had a huge GB attack was after a carne sada

(steak) burrito. It only had the steak and guacamole, I didn't even

eat the flour wrap.

>

> The one the other day was spurred by chicken (I think). maybe I

don't tolerate meat protein? Right now i've been living on apples

and carrots, they seem to be nice to me... so far.

> BUT I am hungry!

Just my two cents..Carragean is a big culprit.. now Carragean is

actually considered natural. It is made out of two sources, seafood

or more commonly now soy..

Although I need to avoid both soy and seafood because of high nickel

I have been told by the dietican and allergist that the chemical

structure of seafood and soy are similair in organic makeup so if

you are allergic to seafood or soy you should avoid the other

because of the chance of cross sensitisation.

Now chicken is one of these meats that they add protien

too..depending on the amount depends on whether it needs to be

labeled or not..

The process is called IQF or individual quick freeze..it is really

convienent and good for $$ as it adds wieght to the chicken and

stops the chicken breasts etc form sticking together..but basically

they throw chicken in to a machine with water and soy protien

powder..then lay the chicken out flat..quick freeze it and put it

into the box..

Guacamole or any other sauce/dip is loaded with preservatives to

help keep it fresh..chicken can be the same way , not to mention the

spices or sauce used to cook /flavour it..

Hope this makes sense to you.. you need protien at every meal. Your

body uses it for energy and also for muscles etc. not enough protien

and the body will take it form the muscles..

See if you can get a hold of the ingredient list for both products

and see a common denominator..

Kats3boys

January 18, 2007

Sue,Your absolutely right, then my Dr. will tell me, "oh you've been "researching", now you know just enough to get yourself in trouble". I didn't even ask what that meant. You would think they would invite the help. Each individuals health is a mystery. Look at that show HOUSE, sometimes it's one little clue that solves the puzzle. JackieWhat I find most confusing is that they are not even sure it WAS a gallbaldder they took out — what the heck?She had vomiting for three days – that was her main symptom.Sometimes we just never know if it’s a “simple” flu or something serious and that’s what can start me off into a tailspin/frenzy of worry some days...I guess that’s why so many of us here go online and read all the books we do — to try and stay somewhat educated.sue

January 18, 2007

Wow , I really like your analogies! I must have bought too many coffees at a dollar a day for well over 5 years! LOL My adrenals are in debt big time!It's cool you are so in tune now that you are able to identify and fix the problems quickly. Have you gone into a craft store over the holidays? For some reason they have cinnamon in huge amounts and I think people without a problem would be sick, I just had to leave the one day it was so overwhelming. And while I'm on the subject, hee hee hee, has anyone noticed how there is a product to cover almost any smell? They have things you put in the car, you plug in the wall, and now even lavender and such in the laundry detergent. They must do it because people like it, but I'm very sensitive to it all. JackieWhen I was a kid around 12 or 13 I was having a lot of moodiness, fatigue, etc. and my docs after going through all the tests and coming up normal said that because I had red hair (strawberry blonde) and blue eyes, I was more suseptible to allergies as red-heads tend to just have certain dispositions. So I went to an allergist and they did prick testing and breathing tests and found out that I had lots of food, indoor/outdoor allergies and gave me meds to help. I was fine after being on the meds, although I still ate some of the bad foods.... *idiot* lol. I went off the meds (many steroids and things like claritin, inhalers, etc. & started getting depo shots, because I preferred them to the bc pills I had been constantly taking since age 14. I stopped them after a year or two and tried one again about 4 years later... made me really sick so after it went out of my system, I had m tubes tied, no hormonal problems since.) after I turned 18 or 19 and the following year, my thyroid was inflammed and I was very very hypo. Now that I'm on the right dosage, my symptoms are made worse by allergies that sneak in or by not getting enough sleep, not taking vitamins, or eating balanced. If I do all of those things, I'm relatively fine. This past year my gland was so inflamed I was getting choked on my vitamins and was having trouble swallowing. My primary doc & ENT said my gland may have to come out. Well... my primary doc rxed me allegra around the same time and I noticed when I took the allegra that I had no trouble breathing, less trouble swallowing and that I could really function well... after a few weeks, all of the symptoms of an enlarged gland went away. So now my docs say that my ultrasound results are still good, no restriction and I don't need to have my gland removed as of right now. If I miss a dose of allegra... oh I can tell immediately . Also, I was having reactions constantly in my old place and so I was in a state of 'shock' all the time... thank god for the adrenal pills.. Interesting isn't it?? And many docs try to say there is no connection of the thyroid & adrenal glands... I'm living proof of it. It's interesting how something so simple can be the answer.... if you have any type of allergies, no matter how small, you are at a higher risk of having or developing adrenal fatigue as a result. Think about it this way of an equation... allergic reaction = $1... if you spend $1 every day on a cup of coffee, it isn't a large purchase, but over the course of a year or your lifetime, that adds up and pretty soon, you have spent over $1800 in coffee after 5 years! All of a sudden, the reality that if you wouldn't have drank that cup of coffee, that you would have more money in the bank, drawing interest and keeping your account full, hits you. You realize everything you could have spent that money on or what you could have done to make it better & last longer. Well, realizing you spent that money and are out almost 2 grand, is like having a bad reaction... over time you might get the sniffles, itchy eyes, rashes, hives, etc. and nothing really happens... and you say like I did foolishly...' oh, i'm allergic to it, but it doesn't bother me...' until one day you wake up and BAM!! You have fibromyalgia, start to miscarry, so you have to have a d & c, develop severe allergies to the foods that 'didn't bother you before', and can't really leave your house because it is a 'safe zone' and the world outside is filled with microscopic culprits, have your credit severely damaged because you're too sick to work, then when you can work, you're allergic to your workplace, etc..... I was like that for about 5 years and I didn't know why... STRESS is the WORST thing you can do for allergies... that's my big advice... don't stress... it taxes the adrenals as much as bad reactions do. One day your body may not be able to tolerate the normal reactions that you don't notice... eventhough they happen and suddenly you find yourself breathing in those particles of peanut dust at Five Guys and realize... oh hey, there's that bee sting feeling in my heart I feel again, or... oh, here's the asthma attack LOL. And cinnamon used to bother me a little bit, but the other day at work I smelled it and I started getting flu like symptoms (mini fibro attack), shivers, shaky, diarrhea type symptoms... just over the smell of cinnamon!! And they were done baking.. just the residue in the pan was left. The other day when we were baking cinnamon buns, I got so sick I had to leave. What people don't realize is that ANY of those symptoms, even the minor ones IS or CAN lead to anaphylactic shock.. I hope that helps .

January 18, 2007

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January 18, 2007

That's where I feel that I am now.

My doctor was explaining to me Monday all about T3 and T4 and I just let her. I can't even remember the explanatory name she gave them it was so ridiculous, but I figured I'd just listen and see what she had... Judy

Your absolutely right, then my Dr. will tell me, "oh you've been "researching", now you know just enough to get yourself in trouble".

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January 18, 2007

That's why I LOVE that show... it brings out the simple fact that what is obvious at first, or even second or third glance may have nothing at all to do with what is going on in that person..... House, though a character on a TV shows, goes on to look at the WHOLE picture until he actually gets an answer... not just any answer.

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On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:18:19 -0800 Ken & Jackie Reimer writes:

Sue,

Your absolutely right, then my Dr. will tell me, "oh you've been "researching", now you know just enough to get yourself in trouble". I didn't even ask what that meant. You would think they would invite the help. Each individuals health is a mystery. Look at that show HOUSE, sometimes it's one little clue that solves the puzzle.

Jackie

January 18, 2007

good lord.... I have to avoid Mal-Wart the whole month of December and now that they are putting out the cinnamon earlier and earlier, I'll probably have to stop going after May LOL. I also have a problem with the Subway in our WM. They bake constantly and for a yeast allergy sufferer, (not to mention oregano and other things) that can be bad news.

I'm glad you like the analogies. I try . It's something most people can relate to.

Re: jackie/gallbladder

Wow ,

I really like your analogies! I must have bought too many coffees at a dollar a day for well over 5 years! LOL My adrenals are in debt big time!

It's cool you are so in tune now that you are able to identify and fix the problems quickly.

Have you gone into a craft store over the holidays? For some reason they have cinnamon in huge amounts and I think people without a problem would be sick, I just had to leave the one day it was so overwhelming.

And while I'm on the subject, hee hee hee, has anyone noticed how there is a product to cover almost any smell? They have things you put in the car, you plug in the wall, and now even lavender and such in the laundry detergent. They must do it because people like it, but I'm very sensitive to it all.