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You will never believe what happened. And I'm actually too ashamed to tell ya. But something happened and now my hypo/hashi friend is not speaking & very depressed. However, I really appreciate you () for taking time and so early this morning too, to give a very eager novice some helpful advice. But now since we no longer have a doctor nor a surgeon--I guess I have more time to learn as much as I can. Ok so maybe, I'm enslaved to the many people that I love. And I'll admit, I do get a little over protective, sometimes. But I'M ALWAYS POLITE & eager to learn. And just because a doctor is a doctor, well it doesn't mean that he/she always has his/her patient's best

interest at heart. I mean he/she didn't even read my friend's patient/file before surgery time. I actually think that he/she had no clue who we were. The doctor didn't even have a clue about the diagnosis. I mean it's not my fault, you were overbooked this AM or doing three things at once, doc said. In other words, it's not my fault, you were trying to beef up your Christmas bonus & booked too many surgeries in one day for which he/she was not prepared. Besides, you must communicate to your patients. We're clueless but we still deserve to know the ends and outs or the pros and cons. For goodness sakes, we're trusting you with our lives. We are not vehicles that you just filtering through a car wash. A surgeon is not some automobile shop owner, you deal with organs, not car parts. Among other things: we were told to just show up 1.5 hours early, don't eat after midnight, no nail polish, no jewelry AND WE'LL DECIDE JUST BEFORE SURGERY IF WE SHOULD REMOVE 1/2 ALL OR JUST A PORTION OF THE THYROID, doc said. And then he/she decided to just remove all of it, without telling my friend who was under the impression that he/she'd opt to only operate on right side, saving 1/2 now--since there are no cancerous cells. The goal is just to remove the portion that swells, just remove the goiter. Reason being, my cousin doesn't have to use medicine, cause the good portion of thyroid is still in. I don't know how long this will last but we were hoping for the same blessing. And then

doc says, "well I can't remove a portion--it has to all come out." And then doc switches up and says, "well anytime you perform a thyroidectomy, you have to leave a little thyroid tissue on both sides." At an earlier point, he/she said that we could remove 1/2 and then leave 1/2. Today was the first we heard of excessive swelling on both sides. It's only the right side that VISUALLY has the problem. I understand that it's just a gland but considering I just cleaned out 400 emails about this gland, that's a pretty important gland. And then doc says, well synthyroid is just like aspirin, you just have to take it everyday for the rest of your life. Excuse me, no one is on this website complaining about aspirin, smarty. Bottomline, Doc said that we had three options: 1) we can remove all of the thyroid; 2) we can leave a little thyroid tissue on both sides 3) we can remove the whole right side ONLY but it's a good chance that it will grow back in 3 to 25 years.

I POLITELY suggested option 3 & we got the boot. --Sorry for the long email. But can't we just take a truck load of Iodine pills and exercise? There has got to be away to shrink that goiter without a FULL THYROIDECTOMY & without: a very impatient and non communicative, unprofessional, AND HIGHLY RUDE surgeon who was not prepared for surgery. Be honest with me, I can take it. What do you gurus think? Am I dreaming? Am I not facing reality? Ok, I need a break--going to see will smith and

beyonce's movie... topper2@... wrote: They have to do what they feel most comfortable with, if, for them, it's removing the gland so be it... you can still be a friend after the fact and help them to get on with dealing with the hormone replacment part... That's going to be an adjustment for them too... maybe less so than a fluttering Hashi gland... Topper () On Thu, 28 Dec

2006 05:27:51 -0800 (PST) G W <msflowersusa (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> writes: thanks topper, I can't change friend's mind. Friend is Hashi/Hypo; stubborn/frustrated; formerly used synthryoid...this is all that I know...I tried to call 411 to get National Thyroid or Ameri thyroiid and had no luck. And then I called the NYC Center & they knew absolutely nothing. I tried to call Miami Center and got v-mail. I guess I'll have to dial God, trust, and let it go... thanks anyway... __________________________________________________

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have you researched Armour, i think i read on one of the boards that

it has been used to help reduce the size of goiters.

> --Sorry for the long email. But can't we just take a truck load of

Iodine pills and exercise? There has got to be away to shrink that

goiter without a FULL THYROIDECTOMY & without: a very impatient and

non communicative, unprofessional, AND HIGHLY RUDE surgeon who was not

prepared for surgery.

>

> Be honest with me, I can take it. What do you gurus think? Am I

dreaming? Am I not facing reality? Ok, I need a break--going to see

will smith and beyonce's movie...

>

>

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> --Sorry for the long email. But can't we just take a truck load

of Iodine pills and exercise? There has got to be away to shrink

that goiter without a FULL THYROIDECTOMY & without: a very impatient

and non communicative, unprofessional, AND HIGHLY RUDE surgeon who

was not prepared for surgery.

>

> Be honest with me, I can take it. What do you gurus think? Am I

dreaming? Am I not facing reality? Ok, I need a break--going to see

will smith and beyonce's movie...

>

>

Exercise and Iodine are probabley the worst ways to go, although the

surgeon who can not be honest and straight foward off the start is

actually even worse..

Goiter is caused by too much thyroid stimulation.. this has

different reasons..too much iodine, too little iodine...hypo and a

high TSH( thyroid stimulating hormone)..antibodies in Graves that

stimulate the thyroid..smoking and as a few have found out

allergies..can all stimulate the thyroid..

Secret is to find out what is causing it and stop the stimulation.

Kats3boys

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