cholesterol

[Guest guest]

" Subject:Re: cholesterol

You are not likely to attain a goal for you LDL to be <100 on 20mg of

zocor. It will probably take at least 40mg. Be sure you take it at

bedtime, not during the day. "

As I understand it (maybe I'm wrong), there is potential

interaction between

statin drugs and warfarin. My MD wants me to take warfarin at

bedtime. The INR clinic supervisor recommends taking Crestor

at bedtime. Has anyone

else faced this dilemma?

Thanks in advance for advice. Charlotte

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[Guest guest]

Thanks, Stef --I had oatmeal for breakfast today Also am jumping on the

treadmill every day now. 33 HDL phooey!

In a message dated 5/11/2006 6:51:00 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

quarteracreorchids@... writes:

Lil - my dad dropped his cholesterol 40 points just by eating oatmeal for

breakfast every day! Just a thought!

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jim. I have heard of Red Yeast Rice and wonder how it interacts with

statins and other meds I am taking...

Lil

In a message dated 5/11/2006 7:26:33 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

jshowker@... writes:

The most powerful LDL fixer I have seen, and it's natural, is a supplement

called Red Yeast Rice. I know a couple people who have taken it and in just

two weeks, their LDL panel went from bad, like yours, to very respectable.

It is so powerful that mainstream doctors in our community (one of them a

Harvard Med School grad) are prescribing it for patients, over statin and

other very harmful drugs.

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Brenta, I know it is tough to raise LDL. Mine has never been

naturally high anyway. I think the highest I ever got was 49.

Lil

In a message dated 5/11/2006 7:43:11 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

bdavis66@... writes:

I've been told that it is difficult to raise HDL. I'm on 20 mg Lipitor and

my HDL is low also. I've been exercising for years and I'm sorry to say my HDL

is still low. My total cholesterol is 170 and my LDL is 60 so I guess I'll

have to settle for that.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/11/2006 8:05:44 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

jakarasek@... writes:

2-6 oz. of wine each evening

Thanks JoAnne, this was my favorite suggestion!

[Guest guest]

Thanks, . What is ironic about this is I was not overweight a year

ago when I was diagnosed, and since that time I have lost an additional 9

pounds, goes to show what losing weight has done for my HDL level!

Lil

In a message dated 5/11/2006 9:55:00 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

carroll_chris2@... writes:

To raise your HDL, yes, exercise is very important. So is weight loss (if

you are not at goal). Fish oil 3000mg/day, flax seed oil, tofu are also

modalities we recommend. If they don't get your HDL >40, ask for slow release

Niacin to be added to your medications. If you smoke, stop smoking as it (among

all the other bad things it does) , lowers HDL.

This is brief, but hopefully helpful...

[Guest guest]

, thank you for your suggestions. I am taking everything...to heart.

Lil

In a message dated 5/11/2006 6:06:24 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

madisonn99@... writes:

To reduce my Cholesterol, what worked for me: I followed a fairly

strict diet, some as suggested earlier,

switched to oatmeal with cinnamon (cinnamon also reduces cholesterol)

ate chicken and fish, nuts, veggies, olive oil etc

cut out all read meat, butter, or hi fat cheeses

and yes, to drink a small glass of wine was also recommended, that I

havent followed yet, am not sure how it would affect my afib.

It took approximately 3 months, to show the effect.

[Guest guest]

That's been an issue for me too. Mine was actually much higher at 230

and with change in diet brought it down to about 180. Unfortunately,

by reducing the bad Cholesterol, I also reduced my good HDL to the low

40's, its considered within range, however in the 50's is the

recommended #.

I dont smoke, am not overweight, eat healthy and do exercise.

To reduce my Cholesterol, what worked for me: I followed a fairly

strict diet, some as suggested earlier,

switched to oatmeal with cinnamon (cinnamon also reduces cholesterol)

ate chicken and fish, nuts, veggies, olive oil etc

cut out all read meat, butter, or hi fat cheeses

and yes, to drink a small glass of wine was also recommended, that I

havent followed yet, am not sure how it would affect my afib.

It took approximately 3 months, to show the effect.

My last test was taken during a hospital stay and showed an elevation

of Glucose, now need to find out what caused that, maybe hospital food.

good luck

[Guest guest]

Charlotte, My wife is on Lipator and Coumadin for several years as rx by her

cardio.

Charlotte Rowlands crowlands1@...> wrote:

" Subject:Re: cholesterol

You are not likely to attain a goal for you LDL to be <100 on 20mg of

zocor. It will probably take at least 40mg. Be sure you take it at

bedtime, not during the day. "

As I understand it (maybe I'm wrong), there is potential

interaction between

statin drugs and warfarin. My MD wants me to take warfarin at

bedtime. The INR clinic supervisor recommends taking Crestor

at bedtime. Has anyone

else faced this dilemma?

Thanks in advance for advice. Charlotte

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I know! We need a certain amount of fat in our diet to help with HDL, I

think (good fats, not Oreo cookies) I really think my last two readings are

thanks to the warfarin. Now I am taking 10 mg Zocor morning and 10 mg before

bed.

We'll see how that works. Too much statin at one time doesn't agree with me.

I could not handle any of the other statins; they made me sick.

Lil

In a message dated 5/12/2006 5:06:13 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

mkseeker@... writes:

I had my highest cholesterol reading ever when I was on a low fat

diet and was walking 4 miles a day. Everyone's different.

[Guest guest]

I raised my good cholesterol from 35 to 75 with flax seeds. My total

cholesterol went from 175 to 152. It's best to buy the flax seeds

whole and grind what you need in a coffee grinder. I started out with

1 tablespoon of ground flaxseed a day in orange juice. Use the high

pulp kind because it thicker and the meal doesn't go to the bottom. I

gradually increased the dossage to 3 tablespoons a day.

My Dr. was so impressed that he recommends flax seed to many of his

patients especially the ones with really stubborn cholesterol

problems. I'm not privy to those results though.

MK in Louisiana

[Guest guest]

I had my highest cholesterol reading ever when I was on a low fat

diet and was walking 4 miles a day. Everyone's different.

MK in Louisiana

> Thanks, . What is ironic about this is I was not overweight

a year

> ago when I was diagnosed, and since that time I have lost an

additional 9

> pounds, goes to show what losing weight has done for my HDL level!

> Lil

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the good idea! I'm going to give it a try.

Brenta

Re: cholesterol

I had my highest cholesterol reading ever when I was on a low fat

diet and was walking 4 miles a day. Everyone's different.

MK in Louisiana

> Thanks, . What is ironic about this is I was not overweight

a year

> ago when I was diagnosed, and since that time I have lost an

additional 9

> pounds, goes to show what losing weight has done for my HDL level!

> Lil

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[Guest guest]

Lipitor is most likely to lower HDL. Zocor is most likely to raise it.

But...don't count on a statin to raise HDL. They mainly lower LDL. Slow release

niacin will raise HDL dramatically and can be used with a statin...just need to

be monitored a little closer at first.

...

brenta davis bdavis66@...> wrote:

I've been told that it is difficult to raise HDL. I'm on 20 mg Lipitor and my

HDL is low also. I've been exercising for years and I'm sorry to say my HDL is

still low. My total cholesterol is 170 and my LDL is 60 so I guess I'll have to

settle for that. I've heard that some statins or statin combinations will raise

HDL but I don't remember which ones.

Brenta

cholesterol

Got the results back from my cholesterol panel taken yesterday. Bleah! Total

206, with 146 of it from LDL, and my HDL lowest it has ever been, 33!! I

know this is not good at all. Currently taking 10 mg of Zocor so my EP has

doubled that dose. What are the best suggestions for raising HDL? I know

exercise

is supposed to really help. It's back to the treadmill for me. 90 days to

the next test.

Thanks

Lil

[Guest guest]

I was put on niacin early on but I just couldn't tolerate it-- bad nausea, etc.

The skin flushing didn't last long, but the nausea did--and at all the wrong

times! I've also been on Zocor, but again no rise in HDL. I'm seriously

thinking about trying the ground flaxseed. What do you think??

Brenta

cholesterol

Got the results back from my cholesterol panel taken yesterday. Bleah!

Total

206, with 146 of it from LDL, and my HDL lowest it has ever been, 33!! I

know this is not good at all. Currently taking 10 mg of Zocor so my EP has

doubled that dose. What are the best suggestions for raising HDL? I know

exercise

is supposed to really help. It's back to the treadmill for me. 90 days to

the next test.

Thanks

Lil

[Guest guest]

What form of niacin did you take? Niaspan is the best form to use. Some forms

cause more side effects than others. Did you take it with food? That helps most

people.

brenta davis bdavis66@...> wrote:

I was put on niacin early on but I just couldn't tolerate it-- bad nausea,

etc. The skin flushing didn't last long, but the nausea did--and at all the

wrong times! I've also been on Zocor, but again no rise in HDL. I'm seriously

thinking about trying the ground flaxseed. What do you think??

Brenta

cholesterol

Got the results back from my cholesterol panel taken yesterday. Bleah!

Total

206, with 146 of it from LDL, and my HDL lowest it has ever been, 33!! I

know this is not good at all. Currently taking 10 mg of Zocor so my EP has

doubled that dose. What are the best suggestions for raising HDL? I know

exercise

is supposed to really help. It's back to the treadmill for me. 90 days to

the next test.

Thanks

Lil

[Guest guest]

I was on several niacin meds, Niaspan being the last and to no avail I'm afraid.

I did take it with food, but it apparently is something I can't take in large

enough doses to do any good.

Brenta

cholesterol

Got the results back from my cholesterol panel taken yesterday. Bleah!

Total

206, with 146 of it from LDL, and my HDL lowest it has ever been, 33!! I

know this is not good at all. Currently taking 10 mg of Zocor so my EP has

doubled that dose. What are the best suggestions for raising HDL? I know

exercise

is supposed to really help. It's back to the treadmill for me. 90 days to

the next test.

Thanks

Lil

[Guest guest]

Sorry...it's such a great drug (as far as working well ) for people that can

tolerate it.

Try all the other modalities....3-4 oz red wine (red grape juice if you cannot

drink wine), lots of exercise, weight loss if you're not at your ideal weight

(this is a biggie!), tofu, flax seed, fish oil, oatmeal, plant sterols (several

new foods out with this).....

good luck!

brenta davis bdavis66@...> wrote:

I was on several niacin meds, Niaspan being the last and to no avail I'm

afraid. I did take it with food, but it apparently is something I can't take in

large enough doses to do any good.

Brenta

cholesterol

Got the results back from my cholesterol panel taken yesterday. Bleah!

Total

206, with 146 of it from LDL, and my HDL lowest it has ever been, 33!! I

know this is not good at all. Currently taking 10 mg of Zocor so my EP has

doubled that dose. What are the best suggestions for raising HDL? I know

exercise

is supposed to really help. It's back to the treadmill for me. 90 days to

the next test.

Thanks

Lil

[Guest guest]

Hi Judy,

Awesome news that you’ve been losing weight — what do you atttribute it to? The cutback of sugar?

Congrats!

I have found that weight loss does lead to lower cholesterol but — if you do have a family history of it, then you will be prone to it.

I am

I eat almost NO fat — and mine is high and has been for four years since the diagnosis of hypo/hashis. Before that it was borderline.

My 18 year old son got tested this summer and was high already and he was 5 foot 6 and 135 lbs! He went off to college, started walking everywhere, running, lifting weights and went down to 120 of lean muscle mass and his cholesterol is just inside range now — we have to work it that hard just to get near acceptable range in our family.

My doctor wants me on lipids YESTERDAY but I won’t do it...i take supplements like polycosanaol, co q-10 and milk thistle to try and lower it on my own... I get bloodowork again in march.

Sue

OK, one more question (for now lol). Does losing weight affect the lipids (fats/cholesterol etc.) in your bloodstream as well? I'm curious as I lose weight, where all that fat and cholesterol are going while they're on the way out of my body. I've lost 35 pounds altogether, and 15 of it was between the last two doctor's appointments. My lipids are a bit high and I'm hoping to decrease them as I lose more weight, but you've made me wonder where they are in the meantime. My triglycerides are low normal which I think proves that the fat is not coming from my food.. Judy

[Guest guest]

Yes, I cut back on all junk food including the sugary ones and started using smaller portions at mealtimes. I joined Overeaters Anonymous and follow a plan of eating that I created with my sponsor. I had to finally admit that I was a sugar/food addict in order to get the help and support that I needed. I'm in program and abstinent 67 days today. I pulled out my old labs and it looks as if I have had some improvement in the lipids, so I'm hopeful that I'll be able to get them under control. I'm borderline now, but I haven't started exercising yet. The doctor said exercise, eat 'Smart Balance' spread 1tsp each day, and red wine if I don't have a problem with alcohol in my family.

I stopped buying the low fat versions of dressings/mayo etc. and instead I buy the full fat version and eat 1/2 as much or cut it 50/50 with plain yogurt. There are a lot fewer chemicals and additives in the full fat ones and I want everything as close as possible to it's natural state... Judy

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[Guest guest]

Judy:

That sounds so fabulous. So very healthy. Good for you

for taking the bull by the horns.

Fortunately...I have a whole food market around the

corner...and I too feel that it inspires me to eat a

little better.

Are you a smaller lady..that got a little too much

foodie action...or are you battling a weight issue as

well?

~E:)

--- Judy P ygroupsjp@...> wrote:

> Yes, I cut back on all junk food including the

> sugary ones and started using smaller portions at

> mealtimes. I joined Overeaters Anonymous and follow

> a plan of eating that I created with my sponsor. I

> had to finally admit that I was a sugar/food addict

> in order to get the help and support that I needed.

> I'm in program and abstinent 67 days today. I

> pulled out my old labs and it looks as if I have had

> some improvement in the lipids, so I'm hopeful that

> I'll be able to get them under control. I'm

> borderline now, but I haven't started exercising

> yet. The doctor said exercise, eat 'Smart Balance'

> spread 1tsp each day, and red wine if I don't have a

> problem with alcohol in my family.

>

> I stopped buying the low fat versions of

> dressings/mayo etc. and instead I buy the full fat

> version and eat 1/2 as much or cut it 50/50 with

> plain yogurt. There are a lot fewer chemicals and

> additives in the full fat ones and I want everything

> as close as possible to it's natural state... Judy

>

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>

> Awesome news that you’ve been losing weight — what

> do you atttribute it to? The cutback of sugar?

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I've been battling my weight since my thyroid malfunctioned at 8 years old and went on my first diet when I was 13. Even when my labs are good, I have a terrible time losing weight and now that I'm in menopause, it's even worse. If I eat really well and watch the portions, I can stay below 200, but I have to add major daily cardio workouts to budge below that. I have been dieting on and off all of my life and it's really a pain sometimes. There's something else metabolic going on I'm sure, but I don't hold out a lot of hope that I'll ever find out what it is. I've got the food in order now, so that's a start... Judy

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PLEASE everybody !! STOP obsessing over cholesterol !!! When I had my heart attack & DIED mine was ONLY 127, all the numbers were perfect I was a NO risk person so the doctors said before it happened. C-Reactive protiens (CRP test) are WAY more important to know & the Brain Natriuretic Peptide (ProBNP test) also the SIZE of your cholestrol & there is another test I can't remember the name of right now.

The other day on Fox they did a thing on some new tests on heart attack risk & I was just researching the info. Another important test is the white blood cells & the amount of each type. When you have too many it is not good either.

Go to the search box & put in "New heart attack risk test" & you will learn all sorts of stuff, told to you by the researchers & clinics, don't believe me LOOK for yourselves !!!!!

Last night they did a thing on that guy that wieghs 1200 pounds, IF the doctors were right he would have high blood pressure & diabeties, they did all the tests & he has niether. IF being over wieght was the cause of heart attacks & high blood pressure NOT ONE skinny person would have either. There is something underneath they have yet to discover that is the real culprit.

YES..... lose weight & eat better foods ,but don't think that will stop a heart attack or cancer for that matter. How many skinny people do you know with cancer? I know quite a few.

Cindy Sue

[Guest guest]

way to go judy, keep up the good work

Re: cholesterol

Yes, I cut back on all junk food including the sugary ones and started using smaller portions at mealtimes. I joined Overeaters Anonymous and follow a plan of eating that I created with my sponsor. I had to finally admit that I was a sugar/food addict in order to get the help and support that I needed. I'm in program and abstinent 67 days today. I pulled out my old labs and it looks as if I have had some improvement in the lipids, so I'm hopeful that I'll be able to get them under control. I'm borderline now, but I haven't started exercising yet. The doctor said exercise, eat 'Smart Balance' spread 1tsp each day, and red wine if I don't have a problem with alcohol in my family.

I stopped buying the low fat versions of dressings/mayo etc. and instead I buy the full fat version and eat 1/2 as much or cut it 50/50 with plain yogurt. There are a lot fewer chemicals and additives in the full fat ones and I want everything as close as possible to it's natural state... Judy

Awesome news that you’ve been losing weight — what do you atttribute it to? The cutback of sugar?

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[Guest guest]

there is a theory in eastern medicine that cancer, boils, and other 'destructive' problems are caused by emotional disturbances like holding anger inward... if it is not let out over time, it has no place to go and the body turns on itself. i used to think that was a bunch of crap, until i got sick and came across a listing of different things... i looked and sure enough, i had all of the 'signs' for the individual malady of psychological/emotional symptoms to correspond with it.

amazing how smart some people can be .

Re: cholesterol

PLEASE everybody !! STOP obsessing over cholesterol !!! When I had my heart attack & DIED mine was ONLY 127, all the numbers were perfect I was a NO risk person so the doctors said before it happened. C-Reactive protiens (CRP test) are WAY more important to know & the Brain Natriuretic Peptide (ProBNP test) also the SIZE of your cholestrol & there is another test I can't remember the name of right now.

The other day on Fox they did a thing on some new tests on heart attack risk & I was just researching the info. Another important test is the white blood cells & the amount of each type. When you have too many it is not good either.

Go to the search box & put in "New heart attack risk test" & you will learn all sorts of stuff, told to you by the researchers & clinics, don't believe me LOOK for yourselves !!!!!

Last night they did a thing on that guy that wieghs 1200 pounds, IF the doctors were right he would have high blood pressure & diabeties, they did all the tests & he has niether. IF being over wieght was the cause of heart attacks & high blood pressure NOT ONE skinny person would have either. There is something underneath they have yet to discover that is the real culprit.

YES..... lose weight & eat better foods ,but don't think that will stop a heart attack or cancer for that matter. How many skinny people do you know with cancer? I know quite a few.

Cindy Sue