Re:Fwd: BREAKING HEALTH NEWS: U.S. Breast Cancer Rates Drop Dramaticall

[Guest guest]

I just heard this tonight on the news. They said it's because of women

stopping the hormone therapy post-menopause (spelling?). I never took

hormones. I was 39 when I got the bc and from then on they said it was

contra indicated.

--

Angel (A.K.A. Mari)

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[Guest guest]

Hi Angel,

I've been hearing this on the news as well.

It IS great news. And yet, I can't help but pause to reflect on

being someone with very few of the risk factors now having bc.

There's a bit of irony in being recently diagnosed with something

that has plummeted in frequency.

Getting diagnosed during bc awareness month was hard, cause there

were constant reminders. Even if you wanted to forget it for a

while, there it was again and again all over tv and ads and races for

the cure etc.

That awareness program is good, especially if it gets more women

diagnosed earlier in the process. It had nothing to do with the

timing of my diagnosis.

Some of life's little ironies, and opportunities for ambivalent

feelings to peacefully co-exist.

Chris

>

> I just heard this tonight on the news. They said it's because of

women

> stopping the hormone therapy post-menopause (spelling?). I never

took

> hormones. I was 39 when I got the bc and from then on they said it

was

> contra indicated.

>

> --

>

> Angel (A.K.A. Mari)

> mfgershman@...

>

> Please click each day to help others, IT'S FREE!

> http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/CTDSites

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I've been hearing this on the news as well.

>

> It IS great news. And yet, I can't help but pause to reflect on

> being someone with very few of the risk factors now having bc.

Maybe now we'll start re-thinking menapause--it's not a disease; not

something that needs to be treated...

>

> There's a bit of irony in being recently diagnosed with something

> that has plummeted in frequency.

>

I felt exactly the same way...

>>

> Some of life's little ironies, and opportunities for ambivalent

> feelings to peacefully co-exist.

sort of like a cosmic HA-HA!

peace

marisa

[Guest guest]

This is great news for those who have estrogen + bc, or maybe not so

great news because maybe it could have been avoided.

For those of us who are er/pr neg it doesn't explain why we got bc, or

that anything could have been done to avoid it.

Oh well, it is nice to read that the overall bc rate has gone down.

-

marisa wrote on 12/15/2006, 11:07 AM:

> >

> > I've been hearing this on the news as well.

> >

> > It IS great news. And yet, I can't help but pause to reflect on

> > being someone with very few of the risk factors now having bc.

>

> Maybe now we'll start re-thinking menapause--it's not a disease; not

> something that needs to be treated...

> >

> > There's a bit of irony in being recently diagnosed with something

> > that has plummeted in frequency.

> >

> I felt exactly the same way...

>

> >>

> > Some of life's little ironies, and opportunities for ambivalent

> > feelings to peacefully co-exist.

>

> sort of like a cosmic HA-HA!

>

> peace

>

> marisa

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

What about those of us who are estrogen + and never took HRT?

Ruth

>

> This is great news for those who have estrogen + bc, or maybe not

so

> great news because maybe it could have been avoided.

>

> For those of us who are er/pr neg it doesn't explain why we got

bc, or

> that anything could have been done to avoid it.

>

> Oh well, it is nice to read that the overall bc rate has gone down.

>

> -

>

> marisa wrote on 12/15/2006, 11:07 AM:

>

> > >

> > > I've been hearing this on the news as well.

> > >

> > > It IS great news. And yet, I can't help but pause to reflect

on

> > > being someone with very few of the risk factors now having bc.

> >

> > Maybe now we'll start re-thinking menapause--it's not a

disease; not

> > something that needs to be treated...

> > >

> > > There's a bit of irony in being recently diagnosed with

something

> > > that has plummeted in frequency.

> > >

> > I felt exactly the same way...

> >

> > >>

> > > Some of life's little ironies, and opportunities for

ambivalent

> > > feelings to peacefully co-exist.

> >

> > sort of like a cosmic HA-HA!

> >

> > peace

> >

> > marisa

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

>

> >

> > I've been hearing this on the news as well.

> >

> > It IS great news. And yet, I can't help but pause to reflect on

> > being someone with very few of the risk factors now having bc.

>

> Maybe now we'll start re-thinking menapause--it's not a disease;

not

> something that needs to be treated...

> >

> > There's a bit of irony in being recently diagnosed with something

> > that has plummeted in frequency.

> >

> I felt exactly the same way...

>

> >>

> > Some of life's little ironies, and opportunities for ambivalent

> > feelings to peacefully co-exist.

>

> sort of like a cosmic HA-HA!

Yes, the universe/cosmos are nothing if not laced with irony and

humor for those who can laugh. Which your cosmic HA-HA made me laugh.

Nice to know someone else is reacting the same way.

>

> peace

Yes peace.

Chris

> marisa

>

[Guest guest]

Ruthie, that's me too.

I was also a little bitter about this news. But it really has

nothing to do with me. It's as if, if I was in a plane crash, I

would still be in a plane crash, no matter how many other people

avoided being in the crash.

I'm happy that some people won't get bc, or will get it later than

they would have.

> >

> > This is great news for those who have estrogen + bc, or maybe

not

> so

> > great news because maybe it could have been avoided.

> >

> > For those of us who are er/pr neg it doesn't explain why we got

> bc, or

> > that anything could have been done to avoid it.

> >

> > Oh well, it is nice to read that the overall bc rate has gone

down.

> >

> > -

> >

> > marisa wrote on 12/15/2006, 11:07 AM:

> >

> > > >

> > > > I've been hearing this on the news as well.

> > > >

> > > > It IS great news. And yet, I can't help but pause to

reflect

> on

> > > > being someone with very few of the risk factors now having

bc.

> > >

> > > Maybe now we'll start re-thinking menapause--it's not a

> disease; not

> > > something that needs to be treated...

> > > >

> > > > There's a bit of irony in being recently diagnosed with

> something

> > > > that has plummeted in frequency.

> > > >

> > > I felt exactly the same way...

> > >

> > > >>

> > > > Some of life's little ironies, and opportunities for

> ambivalent

> > > > feelings to peacefully co-exist.

> > >

> > > sort of like a cosmic HA-HA!

> > >

> > > peace

> > >

> > > marisa

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Same here. I am 38 and never took HRT, obviously. My mom did and no BC.

In my opinion, everything contributes to developing BC, it is just a matter of

being predisposed.

There are no good answers yet.

Re:Fwd: BREAKING HEALTH NEWS: U.S. Breast Cancer Rates

Drop Dramaticall

What about those of us who are estrogen + and never took HRT?

Ruth

>

> This is great news for those who have estrogen + bc, or maybe not

so

> great news because maybe it could have been avoided.

>

> For those of us who are er/pr neg it doesn't explain why we got

bc, or

> that anything could have been done to avoid it.

>

> Oh well, it is nice to read that the overall bc rate has gone down.

>

> -

>

> marisa wrote on 12/15/2006, 11:07 AM:

>

> > >

> > > I've been hearing this on the news as well.

> > >

> > > It IS great news. And yet, I can't help but pause to reflect

on

> > > being someone with very few of the risk factors now having bc.

> >

> > Maybe now we'll start re-thinking menapause--it' s not a

disease; not

> > something that needs to be treated...

> > >

> > > There's a bit of irony in being recently diagnosed with

something

> > > that has plummeted in frequency.

> > >

> > I felt exactly the same way...

> >

> > >>

> > > Some of life's little ironies, and opportunities for

ambivalent

> > > feelings to peacefully co-exist.

> >

> > sort of like a cosmic HA-HA!

> >

> > peace

> >

> > marisa

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

yes, it certainly is a crap-shoot--geez, I nursed for 3 years! And

when diagnosed, I was no where NEAR menapausal! (though I've

chemopause now...)

marisa

> >

> > This is great news for those who have estrogen + bc, or maybe

not

> so

> > great news because maybe it could have been avoided.

> >

> > For those of us who are er/pr neg it doesn't explain why we got

> bc, or

> > that anything could have been done to avoid it.

> >

> > Oh well, it is nice to read that the overall bc rate has gone

down.

> >

> > -

> >

> > marisa wrote on 12/15/2006, 11:07 AM:

> >

> > > >

> > > > I've been hearing this on the news as well.

> > > >

> > > > It IS great news. And yet, I can't help but pause to reflect

> on

> > > > being someone with very few of the risk factors now having

bc.

> > >

> > > Maybe now we'll start re-thinking menapause--it' s not a

> disease; not

> > > something that needs to be treated...

> > > >

> > > > There's a bit of irony in being recently diagnosed with

> something

> > > > that has plummeted in frequency.

> > > >

> > > I felt exactly the same way...

> > >

> > > >>

> > > > Some of life's little ironies, and opportunities for

> ambivalent

> > > > feelings to peacefully co-exist.

> > >

> > > sort of like a cosmic HA-HA!

> > >

> > > peace

> > >

> > > marisa

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

>Hi. I hate to rain on anyone's parade, but I believe that there is no certain

association of

hormone replacement therapy with b.c. develpment. There is an assumption that

the

decline in hormone replacement useage is directly associated with the decrease

in

(hormone receptor +) b.c. diagnosis. This may or may not be the case. It is also

possible

that there are other explanations for the simultaneous occurrence of these two

issues. For

instance, women who are not going to their physicians for hormone replacement

Rx. may

be less likely to be seen by these physicians and may not be getting mammograms

ordered as frequently. There are many other possible explanations. The only way

that a

direct assoication can be determined is with a double-blind study over many

years. When

this has been done in the past, only a very small association was ever found to

occur. I

personally believe that there are many other insidious ways that we are being

exposed to

estrogens, such as the many chemicals that we are exposed to every day. Anne V.

> I just heard this tonight on the news. They said it's because of women

> stopping the hormone therapy post-menopause (spelling?). I never took

> hormones. I was 39 when I got the bc and from then on they said it was

> contra indicated.

>

> --

>

> Angel (A.K.A. Mari)

> mfgershman@...

>

> Please click each day to help others, IT'S FREE!

> http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/CTDSites

>

[Guest guest]

I have to agree, Anne. Think of the xenoestrogens we are exposed to

every day! I have gone organic in the hopes of reducing my exposure

at least in the food area.

Ruth

> >Hi. I hate to rain on anyone's parade, but I believe that there

is no certain association of

> hormone replacement therapy with b.c. develpment. There is an

assumption that the

> decline in hormone replacement useage is directly associated with

the decrease in

> (hormone receptor +) b.c. diagnosis. This may or may not be the

case. It is also possible

> that there are other explanations for the simultaneous occurrence

of these two issues. For

> instance, women who are not going to their physicians for hormone

replacement Rx. may

> be less likely to be seen by these physicians and may not be

getting mammograms

> ordered as frequently. There are many other possible explanations.

The only way that a

> direct assoication can be determined is with a double-blind study

over many years. When

> this has been done in the past, only a very small association was

ever found to occur. I

> personally believe that there are many other insidious ways that

we are being exposed to

> estrogens, such as the many chemicals that we are exposed to every

day. Anne V.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > I just heard this tonight on the news. They said it's because

of women

> > stopping the hormone therapy post-menopause (spelling?). I

never took

> > hormones. I was 39 when I got the bc and from then on they said

it was

> > contra indicated.

> >

> > --

> >

> > Angel (A.K.A. Mari)

> > mfgershman@

> >

> > Please click each day to help others, IT'S FREE!

> > http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/CTDSites

> >

>

[Guest guest]

hi ladies ,

i find this very interesting i was reading in a weekly mag that we have here a

young lass developed bc, then sadly for her she had breast cancer return, a 2nd

time she did not have a good prognoisis so she then threw away all perfume ,

room dedoderants,.. did not used anit persiperants or clean with any chemicals

even bleach,after her treatments she then it seems lived on heaps of fresh vegs

pureified them, her story was in the mag as she has done this now for 6yrs and

no sign of the cancer!!!!

seems to me even our vegs have been sprayed so we do not really know what we

are eating,just my imput , tc sandy in oz

ruthiema36 ruthiema36@...> wrote:

I have to agree, Anne. Think of the xenoestrogens we are exposed to

every day! I have gone organic in the hopes of reducing my exposure

at least in the food area.

Ruth

> >Hi. I hate to rain on anyone's parade, but I believe that there

is no certain association of

> hormone replacement therapy with b.c. develpment. There is an

assumption that the

> decline in hormone replacement useage is directly associated with

the decrease in

> (hormone receptor +) b.c. diagnosis. This may or may not be the

case. It is also possible

> that there are other explanations for the simultaneous occurrence

of these two issues. For

> instance, women who are not going to their physicians for hormone

replacement Rx. may

> be less likely to be seen by these physicians and may not be

getting mammograms

> ordered as frequently. There are many other possible explanations.

The only way that a

> direct assoication can be determined is with a double-blind study

over many years. When

> this has been done in the past, only a very small association was

ever found to occur. I

> personally believe that there are many other insidious ways that

we are being exposed to

> estrogens, such as the many chemicals that we are exposed to every

day. Anne V.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > I just heard this tonight on the news. They said it's because

of women

> > stopping the hormone therapy post-menopause (spelling?). I

never took

> > hormones. I was 39 when I got the bc and from then on they said

it was

> > contra indicated.

> >

> > --

> >

> > Angel (A.K.A. Mari)

> > mfgershman@

> >

> > Please click each day to help others, IT'S FREE!

> > http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/CTDSites

> >

>