Guest guest Posted April 2, 2003 Report Share Posted April 2, 2003 Well, guys. I so appreciate your support. And obviously, I am not around much. My dad has been here, wrapped in his blankie, not doing much of anything but sitting in front of the window staring out, and my view is only my driveway. Sigh. Had to admit him tonight, with acute renal failure. He does not feel bad, except weak & tired. No pain, not breathless, no nausea--all the things we think of as being uncomfy. None of that. Only cold & with a kink in his neck. The mass in the colon is in fact, malignant. And right now he's too weak to undergo even the prep to see if it has gone further than what they see. And if it has.........? And then there is the heart thing. And the Alzheimer's. And all the girls who've stayed here have met him and heard the endless war stories, however, he's still a nice guy, with a sense of humor. The IV nurse told him one about being in the 82nd Airborne that had him ROTF tonight. Anyway, you can imagine my alarm when the doctor calmly discussed his " wishes " with him (yes, there is a living will ON FILE at the hospital--so no, there are no questions). I didn't realize that we are there. I mean, half me thought so, but then he has no discomfort. Very confusing. But the labs indicate major issues. But they cannot unlock the arteries around the heart or to the kidneys, they cannot (at this time) do anything about the colon cancer, they can't fix any one thing because of the others. BUT, thank God, he has no discomfort. My mother had no pain when it was her time, but did have a few days notice. I call that a blessing. It would be nothing short of a miracle if he also had the same leaving of this world. If I sound non-hysterical, it's because what he has always said is, " Don't warehouse me " . So, as I am making arrangements to do just that (he needs 24 hr care, medical flavored), I hope he never has to experience it. Thanks, Vitalady, Inc. T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2003 Report Share Posted April 2, 2003 Hugs, girl. You need them. It looks like it might be sooner rather than later, I " m sorry to hear. I'm glad there's no pain. Pam OT-my dad again Well, guys. I so appreciate your support. And obviously, I am not around much. My dad has been here, wrapped in his blankie, not doing much of anything but sitting in front of the window staring out, and my view is only my driveway. Sigh. Had to admit him tonight, with acute renal failure. He does not feel bad, except weak & tired. No pain, not breathless, no nausea--all the things we think of as being uncomfy. None of that. Only cold & with a kink in his neck. The mass in the colon is in fact, malignant. And right now he's too weak to undergo even the prep to see if it has gone further than what they see. And if it has.........? And then there is the heart thing. And the Alzheimer's. And all the girls who've stayed here have met him and heard the endless war stories, however, he's still a nice guy, with a sense of humor. The IV nurse told him one about being in the 82nd Airborne that had him ROTF tonight. Anyway, you can imagine my alarm when the doctor calmly discussed his " wishes " with him (yes, there is a living will ON FILE at the hospital--so no, there are no questions). I didn't realize that we are there. I mean, half me thought so, but then he has no discomfort. Very confusing. But the labs indicate major issues. But they cannot unlock the arteries around the heart or to the kidneys, they cannot (at this time) do anything about the colon cancer, they can't fix any one thing because of the others. BUT, thank God, he has no discomfort. My mother had no pain when it was her time, but did have a few days notice. I call that a blessing. It would be nothing short of a miracle if he also had the same leaving of this world. If I sound non-hysterical, it's because what he has always said is, " Don't warehouse me " . So, as I am making arrangements to do just that (he needs 24 hr care, medical flavored), I hope he never has to experience it. Thanks, Vitalady, Inc. T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2003 Report Share Posted April 2, 2003 , You, your Dad, Don and your family have been in my thoughts and prayers and will continue to be held there. May you have strength as you handle each turn your Dad's life takes! Rev. Pam in PA OT-my dad again Well, guys. I so appreciate your support. And obviously, I am not around much. My dad has been here, wrapped in his blankie, not doing much of anything but sitting in front of the window staring out, and my view is only my driveway. Sigh. Had to admit him tonight, with acute renal failure. He does not feel bad, except weak & tired. No pain, not breathless, no nausea--all the things we think of as being uncomfy. None of that. Only cold & with a kink in his neck. The mass in the colon is in fact, malignant. And right now he's too weak to undergo even the prep to see if it has gone further than what they see. And if it has.........? And then there is the heart thing. And the Alzheimer's. And all the girls who've stayed here have met him and heard the endless war stories, however, he's still a nice guy, with a sense of humor. The IV nurse told him one about being in the 82nd Airborne that had him ROTF tonight. Anyway, you can imagine my alarm when the doctor calmly discussed his " wishes " with him (yes, there is a living will ON FILE at the hospital--so no, there are no questions). I didn't realize that we are there. I mean, half me thought so, but then he has no discomfort. Very confusing. But the labs indicate major issues. But they cannot unlock the arteries around the heart or to the kidneys, they cannot (at this time) do anything about the colon cancer, they can't fix any one thing because of the others. BUT, thank God, he has no discomfort. My mother had no pain when it was her time, but did have a few days notice. I call that a blessing. It would be nothing short of a miracle if he also had the same leaving of this world. If I sound non-hysterical, it's because what he has always said is, " Don't warehouse me " . So, as I am making arrangements to do just that (he needs 24 hr care, medical flavored), I hope he never has to experience it. Thanks, Vitalady, Inc. T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2003 Report Share Posted April 2, 2003 , My thoughts and prayers are with you. My mother passed away 8 years ago and I'm very close to my Dad. I can't imagine how hard this must be for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2003 Report Share Posted April 2, 2003 - It does sound as if your dad's time is near. So much a relief in a way because you won't have to deal with long-term warehousing as he put it. Are they doing dialysis for the kidneys? Or is that part of the living will? I am praying that his last days remain comfortable for him. Hang in there. Jeanne in WI Age 39 - Dr. T. Chua Open RNY - 5/21/02 5'7 " - 314/215/150-175 djgraves@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2003 Report Share Posted April 2, 2003 Mom, have you asked the doc his best guess at time? Is the doc willing to institute Hospice? Maybe with hospice you could keep your dad at home (your home, sorry) until the end. I sure wish we had known mom's time was coming, hospice would have been wonderful! It worked great for Dad. Love ya and keeping you all in my prayers Phyllis OT-my dad again Well, guys. I so appreciate your support. And obviously, I am not around much. My dad has been here, wrapped in his blankie, not doing much of anything but sitting in front of the window staring out, and my view is only my driveway. Sigh. Had to admit him tonight, with acute renal failure. He does not feel bad, except weak & tired. No pain, not breathless, no nausea--all the things we think of as being uncomfy. None of that. Only cold & with a kink in his neck. The mass in the colon is in fact, malignant. And right now he's too weak to undergo even the prep to see if it has gone further than what they see. And if it has.........? And then there is the heart thing. And the Alzheimer's. And all the girls who've stayed here have met him and heard the endless war stories, however, he's still a nice guy, with a sense of humor. The IV nurse told him one about being in the 82nd Airborne that had him ROTF tonight. Anyway, you can imagine my alarm when the doctor calmly discussed his " wishes " with him (yes, there is a living will ON FILE at the hospital--so no, there are no questions). I didn't realize that we are there. I mean, half me thought so, but then he has no discomfort. Very confusing. But the labs indicate major issues. But they cannot unlock the arteries around the heart or to the kidneys, they cannot (at this time) do anything about the colon cancer, they can't fix any one thing because of the others. BUT, thank God, he has no discomfort. My mother had no pain when it was her time, but did have a few days notice. I call that a blessing. It would be nothing short of a miracle if he also had the same leaving of this world. If I sound non-hysterical, it's because what he has always said is, " Don't warehouse me " . So, as I am making arrangements to do just that (he needs 24 hr care, medical flavored), I hope he never has to experience it. Thanks, Vitalady, Inc. T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2003 Report Share Posted April 2, 2003 I pray that everything is as pain free for all of you - physically and emotionally. ------------------------------------------------ Terry Mayers 5DollarHosting.com® http://www.5dollarhosting.com (877)-838-HOST / .... because it shouldn't cost a fortune to make a fortune! ® OT-my dad again Well, guys. I so appreciate your support. And obviously, I am not around much. My dad has been here, wrapped in his blankie, not doing much of anything but sitting in front of the window staring out, and my view is only my driveway. Sigh. Had to admit him tonight, with acute renal failure. He does not feel bad, except weak & tired. No pain, not breathless, no nausea--all the things we think of as being uncomfy. None of that. Only cold & with a kink in his neck. The mass in the colon is in fact, malignant. And right now he's too weak to undergo even the prep to see if it has gone further than what they see. And if it has.........? And then there is the heart thing. And the Alzheimer's. And all the girls who've stayed here have met him and heard the endless war stories, however, he's still a nice guy, with a sense of humor. The IV nurse told him one about being in the 82nd Airborne that had him ROTF tonight. Anyway, you can imagine my alarm when the doctor calmly discussed his " wishes " with him (yes, there is a living will ON FILE at the hospital--so no, there are no questions). I didn't realize that we are there. I mean, half me thought so, but then he has no discomfort. Very confusing. But the labs indicate major issues. But they cannot unlock the arteries around the heart or to the kidneys, they cannot (at this time) do anything about the colon cancer, they can't fix any one thing because of the others. BUT, thank God, he has no discomfort. My mother had no pain when it was her time, but did have a few days notice. I call that a blessing. It would be nothing short of a miracle if he also had the same leaving of this world. If I sound non-hysterical, it's because what he has always said is, " Don't warehouse me " . So, as I am making arrangements to do just that (he needs 24 hr care, medical flavored), I hope he never has to experience it. Thanks, Vitalady, Inc. T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2003 Report Share Posted April 2, 2003 Dear , I read your posts and try to picture myself in your position. I know you seem to be holding up well but I know this can't be easy.. not by a long shot. I was so relieved to read that your Dad doesn't seem to be experiencing discomfort/pain. What a blessing. My Gram suffered so much the last few days of her life with complications from diabetes and blood poisoning. To slip away peacefully is sometimes the greatest blessing of all. We continue to pray for you, Don and your Dad. I know you're our " Mom " but you're our " Sissy " too. Standing with you, Trace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2003 Report Share Posted April 2, 2003 , Gosh I so remember being where you are. Please know you are in my prayers, as is your dad and your entire family. Hugs, OT-my dad again Well, guys. I so appreciate your support. And obviously, I am not around much. My dad has been here, wrapped in his blankie, not doing much of anything but sitting in front of the window staring out, and my view is only my driveway. Sigh. Had to admit him tonight, with acute renal failure. He does not feel bad, except weak & tired. No pain, not breathless, no nausea--all the things we think of as being uncomfy. None of that. Only cold & with a kink in his neck. The mass in the colon is in fact, malignant. And right now he's too weak to undergo even the prep to see if it has gone further than what they see. And if it has.........? And then there is the heart thing. And the Alzheimer's. And all the girls who've stayed here have met him and heard the endless war stories, however, he's still a nice guy, with a sense of humor. The IV nurse told him one about being in the 82nd Airborne that had him ROTF tonight. Anyway, you can imagine my alarm when the doctor calmly discussed his " wishes " with him (yes, there is a living will ON FILE at the hospital--so no, there are no questions). I didn't realize that we are there. I mean, half me thought so, but then he has no discomfort. Very confusing. But the labs indicate major issues. But they cannot unlock the arteries around the heart or to the kidneys, they cannot (at this time) do anything about the colon cancer, they can't fix any one thing because of the others. BUT, thank God, he has no discomfort. My mother had no pain when it was her time, but did have a few days notice. I call that a blessing. It would be nothing short of a miracle if he also had the same leaving of this world. If I sound non-hysterical, it's because what he has always said is, " Don't warehouse me " . So, as I am making arrangements to do just that (he needs 24 hr care, medical flavored), I hope he never has to experience it. Thanks, Vitalady, Inc. T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2003 Report Share Posted April 2, 2003 No dialysis and not clear on why. And it's rectal cancer, not colon. Nobody ever tells me anything. sigh Thanks, Vitalady, Inc. T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com Re: OT-my dad again - It does sound as if your dad's time is near. So much a relief in a way because you won't have to deal with long-term warehousing as he put it. Are they doing dialysis for the kidneys? Or is that part of the living will? I am praying that his last days remain comfortable for him. Hang in there. Jeanne in WI Age 39 - Dr. T. Chua Open RNY - 5/21/02 5'7 " - 314/215/150-175 djgraves@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2003 Report Share Posted April 2, 2003 I will keep prayers going for you and your father Mom. You are truely a wonderful person to take on his care. No wonder we all love you so much! (((((((((((((((((BIG HUGE HUGS))))))))))))))) Kathy (aka Spooki) *Until you love a poodle, a part of your soul remains unawakened.* www.geocities.com/fyrbyrd1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2003 Report Share Posted April 2, 2003 - I would not put your Dad thru any surgical procedure unless you are prepared to lose him. He is to frail for that and the anesthetic will roam his body and mind in such a way as to keep him delusional 24/7 worse than even now if he made it. You would be forced to " warehouse " him and I am not sure you could live with that. Just remember I am a geriatric social worker; you need me call. Love, Joycie Joyce Blavat " People do not make a change until the pain of remaining the same is greater than the pain of change. " " And those who danced were thought insane by those who refused to hear the music... " " If you judge people, you have no time to love them. " - Mother " When God measures a man, He puts the tape around the heart instead of the head. " " To handle yourself, use your head. To handle others, use your heart. " - author unknown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2003 Report Share Posted April 2, 2003 : It has to be so difficult. I pray for your continued strength. Fondly, , IL LapRNY Jan 21, 2003 -54 lbs Re: OT-my dad again > > > - It does sound as if your dad's time is near. So much a relief in a way because you won't have to deal with long-term warehousing as he put it. Are they doing dialysis for the kidneys? Or is that part of the living will? I am praying that his last days remain comfortable for him. Hang in there. > > Jeanne in WI > Age 39 - Dr. T. Chua > Open RNY - 5/21/02 > 5'7 " - 314/215/150-175 > djgraves@... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2003 Report Share Posted April 2, 2003 Mom it`s Ethel , know what it is , my mom has gotten worse today ,she thinks everyonr is against her ,disoriented ,cold, and probably on verge of another stroke, and wants to come home, some times it think OH LORD ! what`s next i am tires now ,but remember we also have to take care of us, to take care of them, Ethel Vitalady wrote: > Well, guys. I so appreciate your support. And obviously, I am not > around much. > > My dad has been here, wrapped in his blankie, not doing much of > anything but sitting in front of the window staring out, and my view > is only my driveway. Sigh. > > Had to admit him tonight, with acute renal failure. He does not feel > bad, except weak & tired. No pain, not breathless, no nausea--all the > things we think of as being uncomfy. None of that. Only cold & with a > kink in his neck. > > The mass in the colon is in fact, malignant. And right now he's too > weak to undergo even the prep to see if it has gone further than what > they see. And if it has.........? > > And then there is the heart thing. > > And the Alzheimer's. And all the girls who've stayed here have met > him and heard the endless war stories, however, he's still a nice guy, > with a sense of humor. The IV nurse told him one about being in the > 82nd Airborne that had him ROTF tonight. > > Anyway, you can imagine my alarm when the doctor calmly discussed his > " wishes " with him (yes, there is a living will ON FILE at the > hospital--so no, there are no questions). I didn't realize that we > are there. I mean, half me thought so, but then he has no discomfort. > Very confusing. But the labs indicate major issues. > > But they cannot unlock the arteries around the heart or to the > kidneys, they cannot (at this time) do anything about the colon > cancer, they can't fix any one thing because of the others. > > BUT, thank God, he has no discomfort. My mother had no pain when it > was her time, but did have a few days notice. I call that a blessing. > It would be nothing short of a miracle if he also had the same leaving > of this world. > > If I sound non-hysterical, it's because what he has always said is, > " Don't warehouse me " . So, as I am making arrangements to do just that > (he needs 24 hr care, medical flavored), I hope he never has to > experience it. > > > > > Thanks, > > > Vitalady, Inc. T > www.vitalady.com > > If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: > https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2003 Report Share Posted April 2, 2003 Mom, Rest assured that we'd all be by your side physically were we not scattered to all corners of the globe! We are by your side in spirit. Heck, I'd even cook for you all if I were even in your state! I'd just zip right over and fire up that bad boy - a.k.a. grill! Peace, Dave (Jeanne's DH & GMC) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2003 Report Share Posted April 2, 2003 That is why they won't fix anything. They'll do more tests, lots of tests, but they can't do much with the results. I am working diligently to be sure the next place he goes is to the VA hospital. He's qualified, just jumping through hoops. No, he must have 24/hr care, they said today. MEDICAL care, not some amateur who knows absolutely nothing about hearts, kidneys or cancer. BUT I am hoping in the VA hospital, he will think he is on a heavenly holiday speaking WW II fluently all day with others who speak it fluently. Thanks, Vitalady, Inc. T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com Re: OT-my dad again - I would not put your Dad thru any surgical procedure unless you are prepared to lose him. He is to frail for that and the anesthetic will roam his body and mind in such a way as to keep him delusional 24/7 worse than even now if he made it. You would be forced to " warehouse " him and I am not sure you could live with that. Just remember I am a geriatric social worker; you need me call. Love, Joycie Joyce Blavat " People do not make a change until the pain of remaining the same is greater than the pain of change. " " And those who danced were thought insane by those who refused to hear the music... " " If you judge people, you have no time to love them. " - Mother " When God measures a man, He puts the tape around the heart instead of the head. " " To handle yourself, use your head. To handle others, use your heart. " - author unknown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2003 Report Share Posted April 2, 2003 Has she been dx with dementia (of any kind)? I know when I was on the AD list for 60 days (all I could take), I saw that the paranoia is part of it, wanting to go home (even if they are already home). I know the frustration of dealing with someone who is totally out of touch. My dad comes & goes like a radio station that blinks on & off. He's fine, then " out there " . My mother died 6 months ago, not 3 yrs ago, and the nuns at the hospital separated him & they pulled the tubes out. Um, no, we were all with her, including him, tubes all in place. No point in trying to convince him, he's never gonna forgive the nuns and that's final. Sigh. Thanks, Vitalady, Inc. T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com Re: OT-my dad again Mom it`s Ethel , know what it is , my mom has gotten worse today ,she thinks everyonr is against her ,disoriented ,cold, and probably on verge of another stroke, and wants to come home, some times it think OH LORD ! what`s next i am tires now ,but remember we also have to take care of us, to take care of them, Ethel Vitalady wrote: > Well, guys. I so appreciate your support. And obviously, I am not > around much. > > My dad has been here, wrapped in his blankie, not doing much of > anything but sitting in front of the window staring out, and my view > is only my driveway. Sigh. > > Had to admit him tonight, with acute renal failure. He does not feel > bad, except weak & tired. No pain, not breathless, no nausea--all the > things we think of as being uncomfy. None of that. Only cold & with a > kink in his neck. > > The mass in the colon is in fact, malignant. And right now he's too > weak to undergo even the prep to see if it has gone further than what > they see. And if it has.........? > > And then there is the heart thing. > > And the Alzheimer's. And all the girls who've stayed here have met > him and heard the endless war stories, however, he's still a nice guy, > with a sense of humor. The IV nurse told him one about being in the > 82nd Airborne that had him ROTF tonight. > > Anyway, you can imagine my alarm when the doctor calmly discussed his > " wishes " with him (yes, there is a living will ON FILE at the > hospital--so no, there are no questions). I didn't realize that we > are there. I mean, half me thought so, but then he has no discomfort. > Very confusing. But the labs indicate major issues. > > But they cannot unlock the arteries around the heart or to the > kidneys, they cannot (at this time) do anything about the colon > cancer, they can't fix any one thing because of the others. > > BUT, thank God, he has no discomfort. My mother had no pain when it > was her time, but did have a few days notice. I call that a blessing. > It would be nothing short of a miracle if he also had the same leaving > of this world. > > If I sound non-hysterical, it's because what he has always said is, > " Don't warehouse me " . So, as I am making arrangements to do just that > (he needs 24 hr care, medical flavored), I hope he never has to > experience it. > > > > > Thanks, > > > Vitalady, Inc. T > www.vitalady.com > > If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: > https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 No ,to dementia, but this evening she did not remember that Rosie had died. that was a month ago. Ethel Vitalady wrote: > Has she been dx with dementia (of any kind)? I know when I was on the > AD list for 60 days (all I could take), I saw that the paranoia is > part of it, wanting to go home (even if they are already home). I > know the frustration of dealing with someone who is totally out of > touch. > > My dad comes & goes like a radio station that blinks on & off. He's > fine, then " out there " . My mother died 6 months ago, not 3 yrs ago, > and the nuns at the hospital separated him & they pulled the tubes > out. Um, no, we were all with her, including him, tubes all in place. > No point in trying to convince him, he's never gonna forgive the nuns > and that's final. Sigh. > > > Thanks, > > > Vitalady, Inc. T > www.vitalady.com > > If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: > https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com > > Re: OT-my dad again > > > Mom it`s Ethel , know what it is , my mom has gotten worse today ,she > thinks everyonr is against her ,disoriented ,cold, and probably on > verge > of another stroke, and wants to come home, some > times it think OH LORD ! what`s next i am tires now ,but remember we > also have to take care of us, to take care of them, Ethel > > Vitalady wrote: > > > Well, guys. I so appreciate your support. And obviously, I am not > > around much. > > > > My dad has been here, wrapped in his blankie, not doing much of > > anything but sitting in front of the window staring out, and my view > > is only my driveway. Sigh. > > > > Had to admit him tonight, with acute renal failure. He does not feel > > bad, except weak & tired. No pain, not breathless, no nausea--all > the > > things we think of as being uncomfy. None of that. Only cold & > with a > > kink in his neck. > > > > The mass in the colon is in fact, malignant. And right now he's too > > weak to undergo even the prep to see if it has gone further than what > > they see. And if it has.........? > > > > And then there is the heart thing. > > > > And the Alzheimer's. And all the girls who've stayed here have met > > him and heard the endless war stories, however, he's still a nice > guy, > > with a sense of humor. The IV nurse told him one about being in the > > 82nd Airborne that had him ROTF tonight. > > > > Anyway, you can imagine my alarm when the doctor calmly discussed his > > " wishes " with him (yes, there is a living will ON FILE at the > > hospital--so no, there are no questions). I didn't realize that we > > are there. I mean, half me thought so, but then he has no > discomfort. > > Very confusing. But the labs indicate major issues. > > > > But they cannot unlock the arteries around the heart or to the > > kidneys, they cannot (at this time) do anything about the colon > > cancer, they can't fix any one thing because of the others. > > > > BUT, thank God, he has no discomfort. My mother had no pain when it > > was her time, but did have a few days notice. I call that a > blessing. > > It would be nothing short of a miracle if he also had the same > leaving > > of this world. > > > > If I sound non-hysterical, it's because what he has always said is, > > " Don't warehouse me " . So, as I am making arrangements to do just > that > > (he needs 24 hr care, medical flavored), I hope he never has to > > experience it. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Vitalady, Inc. T > > www.vitalady.com > > > > If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: > > https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 Could be stroke induced dementia, since I think that describes more a cluster of symptoms than an actual disease. I know with my dad, they ruled out at least 4 causes of his dementia, so the doc said they would consider it Alzheimer's by default. Thanks, Vitalady, Inc. T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com Re: OT-my dad again > > > Mom it`s Ethel , know what it is , my mom has gotten worse today ,she > thinks everyonr is against her ,disoriented ,cold, and probably on > verge > of another stroke, and wants to come home, some > times it think OH LORD ! what`s next i am tires now ,but remember we > also have to take care of us, to take care of them, Ethel > > Vitalady wrote: > > > Well, guys. I so appreciate your support. And obviously, I am not > > around much. > > > > My dad has been here, wrapped in his blankie, not doing much of > > anything but sitting in front of the window staring out, and my view > > is only my driveway. Sigh. > > > > Had to admit him tonight, with acute renal failure. He does not feel > > bad, except weak & tired. No pain, not breathless, no nausea--all > the > > things we think of as being uncomfy. None of that. Only cold & > with a > > kink in his neck. > > > > The mass in the colon is in fact, malignant. And right now he's too > > weak to undergo even the prep to see if it has gone further than what > > they see. And if it has.........? > > > > And then there is the heart thing. > > > > And the Alzheimer's. And all the girls who've stayed here have met > > him and heard the endless war stories, however, he's still a nice > guy, > > with a sense of humor. The IV nurse told him one about being in the > > 82nd Airborne that had him ROTF tonight. > > > > Anyway, you can imagine my alarm when the doctor calmly discussed his > > " wishes " with him (yes, there is a living will ON FILE at the > > hospital--so no, there are no questions). I didn't realize that we > > are there. I mean, half me thought so, but then he has no > discomfort. > > Very confusing. But the labs indicate major issues. > > > > But they cannot unlock the arteries around the heart or to the > > kidneys, they cannot (at this time) do anything about the colon > > cancer, they can't fix any one thing because of the others. > > > > BUT, thank God, he has no discomfort. My mother had no pain when it > > was her time, but did have a few days notice. I call that a > blessing. > > It would be nothing short of a miracle if he also had the same > leaving > > of this world. > > > > If I sound non-hysterical, it's because what he has always said is, > > " Don't warehouse me " . So, as I am making arrangements to do just > that > > (he needs 24 hr care, medical flavored), I hope he never has to > > experience it. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Vitalady, Inc. T > > www.vitalady.com > > > > If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: > > https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2003 Report Share Posted April 4, 2003 : As long as your Dad is comfy and in no pain that's the best we can ever hope for. His warehouse comment is right on the money. I hope for all of your sakes that decision is taken out of your hands in the gentelest way possible. My prayers are with you. Love, Roe > Well, guys. I so appreciate your support. And obviously, I am not around much. > > My dad has been here, wrapped in his blankie, not doing much of anything but sitting in front of the window staring out, and my view is only my driveway. Sigh. > > Had to admit him tonight, with acute renal failure. He does not feel bad, except weak & tired. No pain, not breathless, no nausea-- all the things we think of as being uncomfy. None of that. Only cold & with a kink in his neck. > > The mass in the colon is in fact, malignant. And right now he's too weak to undergo even the prep to see if it has gone further than what they see. And if it has.........? > > And then there is the heart thing. > > And the Alzheimer's. And all the girls who've stayed here have met him and heard the endless war stories, however, he's still a nice guy, with a sense of humor. The IV nurse told him one about being in the 82nd Airborne that had him ROTF tonight. > > Anyway, you can imagine my alarm when the doctor calmly discussed his " wishes " with him (yes, there is a living will ON FILE at the hospital--so no, there are no questions). I didn't realize that we are there. I mean, half me thought so, but then he has no discomfort. Very confusing. But the labs indicate major issues. > > But they cannot unlock the arteries around the heart or to the kidneys, they cannot (at this time) do anything about the colon cancer, they can't fix any one thing because of the others. > > BUT, thank God, he has no discomfort. My mother had no pain when it was her time, but did have a few days notice. I call that a blessing. It would be nothing short of a miracle if he also had the same leaving of this world. > > If I sound non-hysterical, it's because what he has always said is, " Don't warehouse me " . So, as I am making arrangements to do just that (he needs 24 hr care, medical flavored), I hope he never has to experience it. > > > > > Thanks, > > > Vitalady, Inc. T > www.vitalady.com > > If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: > https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2003 Report Share Posted April 4, 2003 Dear Ethel, ::Big Big Hugs:: You hang in there, Sis and know that you and your Mom are in my prayers. Lots of love, Trace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2003 Report Share Posted April 4, 2003 >>Speaking WW II fluently.. (Mom) Ah, Mom, that's great. I can picture that. Lots of love, Trace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2003 Report Share Posted April 4, 2003 He has bounced back today & will be home. I am pursuing the VA hospital, though, as he must have 24/hr care. I pointed out to the doc that by sorta forcing him home (unskilled-me) that he will just go from crisis to crisis. Sigh. But he is ok today, and they will give him another transfusion, so they can pump him up with water & blood til he is finally sick enough to feel misery? This makes me so happy. He is pain free right now. signed, grumpy Thanks, Vitalady, Inc. T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com Re: OT-my dad again : As long as your Dad is comfy and in no pain that's the best we can ever hope for. His warehouse comment is right on the money. I hope for all of your sakes that decision is taken out of your hands in the gentelest way possible. My prayers are with you. Love, Roe > Well, guys. I so appreciate your support. And obviously, I am not around much. > > My dad has been here, wrapped in his blankie, not doing much of anything but sitting in front of the window staring out, and my view is only my driveway. Sigh. > > Had to admit him tonight, with acute renal failure. He does not feel bad, except weak & tired. No pain, not breathless, no nausea-- all the things we think of as being uncomfy. None of that. Only cold & with a kink in his neck. > > The mass in the colon is in fact, malignant. And right now he's too weak to undergo even the prep to see if it has gone further than what they see. And if it has.........? > > And then there is the heart thing. > > And the Alzheimer's. And all the girls who've stayed here have met him and heard the endless war stories, however, he's still a nice guy, with a sense of humor. The IV nurse told him one about being in the 82nd Airborne that had him ROTF tonight. > > Anyway, you can imagine my alarm when the doctor calmly discussed his " wishes " with him (yes, there is a living will ON FILE at the hospital--so no, there are no questions). I didn't realize that we are there. I mean, half me thought so, but then he has no discomfort. Very confusing. But the labs indicate major issues. > > But they cannot unlock the arteries around the heart or to the kidneys, they cannot (at this time) do anything about the colon cancer, they can't fix any one thing because of the others. > > BUT, thank God, he has no discomfort. My mother had no pain when it was her time, but did have a few days notice. I call that a blessing. It would be nothing short of a miracle if he also had the same leaving of this world. > > If I sound non-hysterical, it's because what he has always said is, " Don't warehouse me " . So, as I am making arrangements to do just that (he needs 24 hr care, medical flavored), I hope he never has to experience it. > > > > > Thanks, > > > Vitalady, Inc. T > www.vitalady.com > > If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: > https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2003 Report Share Posted April 4, 2003 > signed, > grumpy > And you have every right to be. Prayers still coming your way. Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2003 Report Share Posted April 4, 2003 The bad news is, he gets out tonight (I know that sounds sick if you're reading this for the first time, but he is SAFE there). The good news is the VA hoops are jumped, so I think we're on the wtg list. I may be a confused mess, but I AM efficient, so had those medical releases faxed to his docs before I even got his autograph on the rest of the papers. LOL! This would be the nursing home portion, not the Alzheimer's Unit. Now, he will not be pleased with this development. And of course, not saying anything til it happens. BUT it will be peaceful for ME to know he is safe. 3 yrs I've been torn in half, " should I? should I not? " And prolly before that I shoulda worried, but my mom was there. To get 18 hrs/care a day in his home would be a quick $9,000 per month. And that leaves 6 hours uncovered! I dunno about you guys, but that's a LITTLE steep for us. Let's pretend that Don actually had a job, and then factor that in. Nooooooo, still missed us by a few thousand. Add in my dad's retirement (which is ok), and we still come up many thousand short. How DO people do this? The VA hospital is no cost, and only about 3 mi from his home. Sooooooooo, we'll see where we go. Otherwise, we'll go from medical crisis to medical crisis, I think. And each one, makes the Alz a little worse. Thanks, Vitalady, Inc. T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com Re: OT-my dad again >>Speaking WW II fluently.. (Mom) Ah, Mom, that's great. I can picture that. Lots of love, Trace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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