Congratulations, Bastrop County!

[Guest guest]

You got what you asked for!

Guardian on the 28th. From what I hear from several sources, $10/hr

for paramedics, $8/hr for EMT basics, and they don't recognize EMT-

Intermediates at all.

If you want to apply you have to leave a blank, signed check. This

is used in case you lose or damage any equipment on your shift. Hope

you have a large balance in your checking account.

Congrats, Bastrop County! You got exactly what you asked for. And

remember, folks, Starflight is 1-800-531-STAR.

[Guest guest]

Mr.,

I would think you would research your statements you post!! This is NOT true

at all!! It even sounds crazy to someone . to leave a blank check to replace

lost or damaged equipment. The CORRECT information on the whole BLANK check

thing is for your direct deposit. You dont sign the check at all!

Matter of fact you are to write VOID all over it. I have worked for guardian

for a while have you ever worked for them? They are a great company.If you need

to know more so your postings will be correct just email me back.

Good day

Mike wrote:

You got what you asked for!

Guardian on the 28th. From what I hear from several sources, $10/hr

for paramedics, $8/hr for EMT basics, and they don't recognize EMT-

Intermediates at all.

If you want to apply you have to leave a blank, signed check. This

is used in case you lose or damage any equipment on your shift. Hope

you have a large balance in your checking account.

Congrats, Bastrop County! You got exactly what you asked for. And

remember, folks, Starflight is 1-800-531-STAR.

---------------------------------

Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.

[Guest guest]

Sorry to say Mike that you don't have a clue on what you are talking

about. They do recognize EMT-I and the Blank check you strongly suggest

is to pay for damaged equipment is not. They pay by direct deposit.

>

> You got what you asked for!

>

> Guardian on the 28th. From what I hear from several sources, $10/hr

> for paramedics, $8/hr for EMT basics, and they don't recognize EMT-

> Intermediates at all.

>

> If you want to apply you have to leave a blank, signed check. This

> is used in case you lose or damage any equipment on your shift.

Hope

> you have a large balance in your checking account.

>

> Congrats, Bastrop County! You got exactly what you asked for. And

> remember, folks, Starflight is 1-800-531-STAR.

>

[Guest guest]

I've heard this from multiple, reliable sources. And you're right -

it DOES sound crazy. The potential employees in question asked

SPECIFICALLY about the check, as direct deposit will take a VOIDED

check. They report in no uncertain terms being told that the check

was for re-imbursement of damaged or lost equipment, not for direct

deposit purposes. And these are folks that were interested in

working for Guardian in Bastrop County, not folks against the whole

deal and anti-Guardian... so I tend to believe their side of things

(as I know that they would have gone to work for Guardian doing 911

in Bastrop County had their been a realistic offer and decent

terms). Both were disappointed in how the company appeared to handle

potential employees and both stated a desire to have nothing to do

with Guardian from there on out. Needless to say, I trust both

individuals from whom I've heard the SAME information in DIFFERENT,

SEPARATE conversations.

Mike

> Mr.,

>

> I would think you would research your statements you post!! This

> is NOT true at all!! It even sounds crazy to someone . to leave a

> blank check to replace lost or damaged equipment. The CORRECT

> information on the whole BLANK check thing is for your direct

> deposit. You dont sign the check at all!

> Matter of fact you are to write VOID all over it. I have worked

> for guardian for a while have you ever worked for them? They are a

> great company.If you need to know more so your postings will be

> correct just email me back.

> Good day

>

> Mike wrote:

> You got what you asked for!

>

> Guardian on the 28th. From what I hear from several sources, $10/hr

> for paramedics, $8/hr for EMT basics, and they don't recognize EMT-

> Intermediates at all.

>

> If you want to apply you have to leave a blank, signed check. This

> is used in case you lose or damage any equipment on your shift. Hope

> you have a large balance in your checking account.

>

> Congrats, Bastrop County! You got exactly what you asked for. And

> remember, folks, Starflight is 1-800-531-STAR.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Mr. -

I'd check your sources. The check is unsigned with VOID written all

over it to confirm direct deposit (people have written down wrong

account numbers in the past), and the damaged equipment waver is only

for intentionally damaged equipment. It's not for stolen stuff or

normal wear and tear type damage. Guardian recognizes EMT-

Intermediates. However, when it comes to a 9-1-1 county, their primary

focus is that they have a medic on the truck. Intermediates get paid

acording to the sliding scale, as does everyone else. There is a flat

rate for medics and basics, but number of years involved with EMS also

has a play in your hourly wage.

Just thought you'd like to make an informed judgement.

- Finch

>

> You got what you asked for!

>

> Guardian on the 28th. From what I hear from several sources, $10/hr

> for paramedics, $8/hr for EMT basics, and they don't recognize EMT-

> Intermediates at all.

>

> If you want to apply you have to leave a blank, signed check. This

> is used in case you lose or damage any equipment on your shift.

Hope

> you have a large balance in your checking account.

>

> Congrats, Bastrop County! You got exactly what you asked for. And

> remember, folks, Starflight is 1-800-531-STAR.

>

[Guest guest]

Mike,

Would you please refrain from passing on incorrect information? Please

feel free to contact any current employees and we would be more than

happy to provide you with correct information so that you may post with

pride by knowing that you are spreading the right information. This

forum isn't to bash ANY EMS provider, especially with false

accusations. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

Be safe,

D. Stone

>

> You got what you asked for!

>

> Guardian on the 28th. From what I hear from several sources, $10/hr

> for paramedics, $8/hr for EMT basics, and they don't recognize EMT-

> Intermediates at all.

>

> If you want to apply you have to leave a blank, signed check. This

> is used in case you lose or damage any equipment on your shift.

Hope

> you have a large balance in your checking account.

>

> Congrats, Bastrop County! You got exactly what you asked for. And

> remember, folks, Starflight is 1-800-531-STAR.

>

[Guest guest]

Mike,

I know your post was wrong, because you actually said they pay less than

Oklahoma, and you know we are the most " disrespectful " paying state there

is.

Bob

_____

From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On

Behalf Of Donnie

Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 9:32 AM

To: texasems-l

Subject: Re: Congratulations, Bastrop County!

Mike,

Would you please refrain from passing on incorrect information? Please

feel free to contact any current employees and we would be more than

happy to provide you with correct information so that you may post with

pride by knowing that you are spreading the right information. This

forum isn't to bash ANY EMS provider, especially with false

accusations. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

Be safe,

D. Stone

>

> You got what you asked for!

>

> Guardian on the 28th. From what I hear from several sources, $10/hr

> for paramedics, $8/hr for EMT basics, and they don't recognize EMT-

> Intermediates at all.

>

> If you want to apply you have to leave a blank, signed check. This

> is used in case you lose or damage any equipment on your shift.

Hope

> you have a large balance in your checking account.

>

> Congrats, Bastrop County! You got exactly what you asked for. And

> remember, folks, Starflight is 1-800-531-STAR.

>

[Guest guest]

I wouldn't say Texas is the most disrespectful paying state there is. I was

getting barely over minimum wage as a basic in the state of Georgia and

paramedics there start out right at 9.40/hr in most services.

P.S. AMR does not recognize Intermediates either. (Like I am sure most of you

know anyway.)

A.Dempsey EMT-I/FF

kdempseyjr@...

Re: Congratulations, Bastrop County!

Mike,

Would you please refrain from passing on incorrect information? Please

feel free to contact any current employees and we would be more than

happy to provide you with correct information so that you may post with

pride by knowing that you are spreading the right information. This

forum isn't to bash ANY EMS provider, especially with false

accusations. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

Be safe,

D. Stone

>

> You got what you asked for!

>

> Guardian on the 28th. From what I hear from several sources, $10/hr

> for paramedics, $8/hr for EMT basics, and they don't recognize EMT-

> Intermediates at all.

>

> If you want to apply you have to leave a blank, signed check. This

> is used in case you lose or damage any equipment on your shift.

Hope

> you have a large balance in your checking account.

>

> Congrats, Bastrop County! You got exactly what you asked for. And

> remember, folks, Starflight is 1-800-531-STAR.

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/14/2007 10:22:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

hatfield@... writes:

when the interviewer asks you that ever infamous question, " Do you have any

questions for

us? " , that means its your turn!!

As a person that did interviews on more than one occasion I would add that

if you say " nope, you covered it all " that lost you points in my book.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

Buddhist philosopher at-large

LNMolino@...

(Cell Phone)

(Home Phone)

(IFW/TFW/FSS Office)

(IFW/TFW/FSS Fax)

" A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

" Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the

author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or

organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless

I

specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for

its

stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials

retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the

original author.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/14/2007 10:31:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

paramedicop@... writes:

I posted the truth - that this is what I was told by two different

people who had inquired/interviewed with Guardian.

Nope you posted a " version " of the truth.

The one told to you by whomever?

Don't like it? Tough. I'm reporting what I was told by people

directly involved, who I have a history of truthful interactions with.

That's is a fair statement and I'll take you at your word for that.

If the information is incorrect, Guardian is free to post corrections

to the list for all to see.

Why should they do that? Are the 1300 or so here on this list some form of

Texas EMS jury? Some might even say that statement is baiting them in ways?

In fact, I'm sure that potential employees would love to have it in writing

that this is not, in fact,

the case.

No one is a " potential " anything until they walk in and fill out an

application.

Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant

Buddhist philosopher at-large

LNMolino@...

(Cell Phone)

(Home Phone)

(IFW/TFW/FSS Office)

(IFW/TFW/FSS Fax)

" A Texan with a Jersey Attitude "

" Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds

discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962)

The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the

author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or

organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless

I

specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for

its

stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials

retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the

original author.

[Guest guest]

I posted the truth - that this is what I was told by two different

people who had inquired/interviewed with Guardian.

Don't like it? Tough. I'm reporting what I was told by people

directly involved, who I have a history of truthful interactions with.

If the information is incorrect, Guardian is free to post corrections

to the list for all to see. In fact, I'm sure that potential

employees would love to have it in writing that this is not, in fact,

the case.

Mike

> Mike,

>

> Would you please refrain from passing on incorrect information?

> Please

> feel free to contact any current employees and we would be more than

> happy to provide you with correct information so that you may post

> with

> pride by knowing that you are spreading the right information. This

> forum isn't to bash ANY EMS provider, especially with false

> accusations. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

>

> Be safe,

>

> D. Stone

>

>

>>

>> You got what you asked for!

>>

>> Guardian on the 28th. From what I hear from several sources, $10/hr

>> for paramedics, $8/hr for EMT basics, and they don't recognize EMT-

>> Intermediates at all.

>>

>> If you want to apply you have to leave a blank, signed check. This

>> is used in case you lose or damage any equipment on your shift.

> Hope

>> you have a large balance in your checking account.

>>

>> Congrats, Bastrop County! You got exactly what you asked for. And

>> remember, folks, Starflight is 1-800-531-STAR.

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

That's funny, the intermediates that work for us have some very progressive

protocols. It think that you also need to verify your statements before you

make inaccurate statements. As I'm sure you made be aware that AMR is a

nationwide company. Each operation may be different than another. To make

any type of a blanket statement condemning one company or another only

demonstrates to others either a lack of knowledge or judgment.

Thom Seeber, CCEMT-P

American Medical Response

7509 South Freeway

Houston, Texas 77346

Re: Re: Congratulations, Bastrop County!

I wouldn't say Texas is the most disrespectful paying state there is. I was

getting barely over minimum wage as a basic in the state of Georgia and

paramedics there start out right at 9.40/hr in most services.

P.S. AMR does not recognize Intermediates either. (Like I am sure most of

you know anyway.)

A.Dempsey EMT-I/FF

kdempseyjr@...

Re: Congratulations, Bastrop County!

Mike,

Would you please refrain from passing on incorrect information? Please

feel free to contact any current employees and we would be more than

happy to provide you with correct information so that you may post with

pride by knowing that you are spreading the right information. This

forum isn't to bash ANY EMS provider, especially with false

accusations. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

Be safe,

D. Stone

>

> You got what you asked for!

>

> Guardian on the 28th. From what I hear from several sources, $10/hr

> for paramedics, $8/hr for EMT basics, and they don't recognize EMT-

> Intermediates at all.

>

> If you want to apply you have to leave a blank, signed check. This

> is used in case you lose or damage any equipment on your shift.

Hope

> you have a large balance in your checking account.

>

> Congrats, Bastrop County! You got exactly what you asked for. And

> remember, folks, Starflight is 1-800-531-STAR.

>

[Guest guest]

As Larry so aptly said, " I don't have a dog in this fight " ....

Anybody going to work for any organization, needs to look into the

practices of that organization. Pretty simple really. For anyone who has

been in this business more than a day or two, you can remember working

for someone who had more than a 'little' trouble making payroll..

It makes no difference if they are private, city county fire based or

hospital based. I have talked with services that looked great from the

outside, but only paid 13 on 24...nope, not this little grey duck!!!

Somewhere along the line, they fill the slots with someone who is

willing to do just that. I have worked for some who said that my full

time job schedule was " no problem at all " then 2 weeks later got

irritated when I was late after a structure fire....

Point being is that many services will often try and find a way to cut

corners and save money. If the avenues that they choose don't sit well

with you, move on. Better yet, find out the practices BEFORE signing on

with them, thereby saving you a lot of grief and aggravation.

I don't know how Guardian does personnel issues, doesn't matter to me

really, I don't work for them, and don't want to drive to Bastrop County

anyway!!! If anyone here chooses to work for them, when the interviewer

asks you that ever infamous question, " Do you have any questions for

us? " , that means its your turn!!

Ask away, if you don't, there is nobody to blame but yourself. If you

know someone who currently works for the organization that you choose to

go to, ask them questions, if you know any former employers, ask them

questions as well. Remember that past employees may be bitter, current

employees may be biased, and those who have never worked for them may be

guessing.

Hatfield FF/EMT-P

[Guest guest]

AMR in Arlington also hires Intermediates....

Jeff

Thom Seeber wrote:

,

That's funny, the intermediates that work for us have some very progressive

protocols. It think that you also need to verify your statements before you

make inaccurate statements. As I'm sure you made be aware that AMR is a

nationwide company. Each operation may be different than another. To make

any type of a blanket statement condemning one company or another only

demonstrates to others either a lack of knowledge or judgment.

Thom Seeber, CCEMT-P

American Medical Response

7509 South Freeway

Houston, Texas 77346

Re: Re: Congratulations, Bastrop County!

I wouldn't say Texas is the most disrespectful paying state there is. I was

getting barely over minimum wage as a basic in the state of Georgia and

paramedics there start out right at 9.40/hr in most services.

P.S. AMR does not recognize Intermediates either. (Like I am sure most of

you know anyway.)

A.Dempsey EMT-I/FF

kdempseyjr@...

Re: Congratulations, Bastrop County!

Mike,

Would you please refrain from passing on incorrect information? Please

feel free to contact any current employees and we would be more than

happy to provide you with correct information so that you may post with

pride by knowing that you are spreading the right information. This

forum isn't to bash ANY EMS provider, especially with false

accusations. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

Be safe,

D. Stone

>

> You got what you asked for!

>

> Guardian on the 28th. From what I hear from several sources, $10/hr

> for paramedics, $8/hr for EMT basics, and they don't recognize EMT-

> Intermediates at all.

>

> If you want to apply you have to leave a blank, signed check. This

> is used in case you lose or damage any equipment on your shift.

Hope

> you have a large balance in your checking account.

>

> Congrats, Bastrop County! You got exactly what you asked for. And

> remember, folks, Starflight is 1-800-531-STAR.

>

[Guest guest]

Hey guys,

Just ignore Mike...once again he is finding amusement in flaming

everyone and anyone...It would be interesting to know just who he is

and what his backround is that gives him the right to be ugly and

obnoxious all the time. I wonder why the moderator does not just shut

him down sometimes...TM

[Guest guest]

I wonder why the moderator does not just shut him down sometimes...

That would be called censorship an ugly word.

--

Lou Molino, Sr.

FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI

From the road some where

Re: Congratulations, Bastrop County!

Hey guys,

Just ignore Mike...once again he is finding amusement in flaming

everyone and anyone...It would be interesting to know just who he is

and what his backround is that gives him the right to be ugly and

obnoxious all the time. I wonder why the moderator does not just shut

him down sometimes...TM

[Guest guest]

>>Sorry Jeff, I wasnt knocking AMR, I know that they are a nationwide company

and are listed on the stock market and all, what I was referring to was the

fact that in pay, Intermediates are not recognized. Pay for Intermediates and

Basics are the same. (This being at the local San office) I am not

flaming AMR sir, my apologies if it appeared this way.<<

It has been my experience that pay scales vary somewhat not only with individual

AMR operations, but with individual leadership within those operations as well.

It may be that there is a salary range for levels of training and experience.

When I went to work for AMR, the operations manager offered me what I thought

was a fair wage. It was very high for the area.

A year later, he was deployed to Afghanistan. His replacement was a good bit

more miserly in the pay he offered to paramedics.

--

Grayson, CCEMT-P, etc.

MEDIC Training Solutions

http://www.medictrainingsolutions.com/

[Guest guest]

Amen brother!

Thom Seeber, CCEMT-P

American Medical Response

7509 South Freeway

Houston, Texas 77021

O:

C:

" Premim non nocere "

Re: Re: Congratulations, Bastrop County!

>>Sorry Jeff, I wasnt knocking AMR, I know that they are a nationwide

company and are listed on the stock market and all, what I was referring to

was the fact that in pay, Intermediates are not recognized. Pay for

Intermediates and Basics are the same. (This being at the local San

office) I am not flaming AMR sir, my apologies if it appeared this way.<<

It has been my experience that pay scales vary somewhat not only with

individual AMR operations, but with individual leadership within those

operations as well.

It may be that there is a salary range for levels of training and

experience. When I went to work for AMR, the operations manager offered me

what I thought was a fair wage. It was very high for the area.

A year later, he was deployed to Afghanistan. His replacement was a good bit

more miserly in the pay he offered to paramedics.

--

Grayson, CCEMT-P, etc.

MEDIC Training Solutions

http://www.medictrainingsolutions.com/