Guest guest Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 " Cottage cheese also contains a considerable amount of lactose because .....it is only partly fermented...several patients showed me records of substantial blood sugar increases after consuming ...it should be avoided except in small amounts like 2 tablespoons " p127 It is listed on his list of NO No foods p131. sharon .. Re: Cinnamon/marlene > > Berenstein says no cottage cheese Hi Sharon, I forgot, what does he say about cottage cheese? Diabetes homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diabetes/ To unsubscribe to this group, send an email to: diabetes-unsubscribe Hope you come back soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 > > " Cottage cheese also contains a considerable amount of lactose because > ....it is only partly fermented...several patients showed me records of > substantial blood sugar increases after consuming ...it should be avoided > except in small amounts like 2 tablespoons " p127 It is listed on his list > of > NO No foods p131. I wonder if he put this is on the 'no list' primarily for people taking metformin? Metformin can cause a condition caused lactic acidosis. I wonder what the relationship is (if any) between lactose and lactic acidosis? Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 I eat 1/2 cup of cottage cheese about once every other day or so and it has never bothered my BS. Otherwise, I try and follow Dr. Bernstein's diet. I also do have 8 ounces of low-salt V8 every day, and that also does not raise my BS. But if I have even a half slice of 100% whole grain bread, it will go up 30 points. Lactic acidosis is a rare condition from metformin and is caused by impaired renal and liver function. Margaret > > > > Berenstein says no cottage cheese > > Hi Sharon, > I forgot, what does he say about cottage cheese? > > > > > > > Diabetes homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diabetes/ > > To unsubscribe to this group, send an email to: > diabetes-unsubscribe > Hope you come back soon! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 > > I eat 1/2 cup of cottage cheese about once every other day or so and > it has never bothered my BS. Otherwise, I try and follow Dr. > Bernstein's diet. I also do have 8 ounces of low-salt V8 every day, > and that also does not raise my BS. But if I have even a half slice > of 100% whole grain bread, it will go up 30 points. > > Lactic acidosis is a rare condition from metformin and is caused by > impaired renal and liver function. So then, why do you suppose he has it on is 'no' list? Virtually everyone who has commented on cottage cheese in the past has indicated it doesn't bother their blood sugar. (It doesn't bother mine either). Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Cottage Cheese spikes me. Not a lot if it's the regular stuff, but the non fat drives me up fast and high. ~Jess NYS > > > > I eat 1/2 cup of cottage cheese about once every other day or so and > > it has never bothered my BS. > So then, why do you suppose he has it on is 'no' list? Virtually everyone > who has commented on cottage cheese in the past has indicated it doesn't > bother their blood sugar. (It doesn't bother mine either). > > Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 > > Cottage Cheese spikes me. Not a lot if it's the regular stuff, but > the non fat drives me up fast and high. > ~Jess NYS > You know what I never thought about that but the only kind I eat is regular as well, and only a very small amount. I forgot about nonfat stuff. Good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 WHY would the non-fat have more of a negative effect than the regular, I would think since the fat is mostly removed it would be better. I love cottage cheese but haven't tried it yet, since I have been watching my bg levels. " TLC " Joyce Re: Cottage cheese / Cottage Cheese spikes me. Not a lot if it's the regular stuff, but the non fat drives me up fast and high. ~Jess NYS > > > > I eat 1/2 cup of cottage cheese about once every other day or so and > > it has never bothered my BS. > So then, why do you suppose he has it on is 'no' list? Virtually everyone > who has commented on cottage cheese in the past has indicated it doesn't > bother their blood sugar. (It doesn't bother mine either). > > Mike Diabetes homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diabetes/ To unsubscribe to this group, send an email to: diabetes-unsubscribe Hope you come back soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 > > WHY would the non-fat have more of a negative effect than the regular, I > would think since the fat is mostly removed it would be better. > > I love cottage cheese but haven't tried it yet, since I have been watching > my bg levels. > > " TLC " Joyce > Because fat helps slow down glucose absorption into the bloodstream. As an example, and no I am not going to tell you how I figured this out a serving of high-fat premium ice cream sends my blood sugar up much less than the cheapo " ice milk " lowfat store brand stuff does. It's all about the fat content. Now, I'm not suggesting that everyone go out and start wolfing down huge amounts of fat. But that's probably the reason for a glucose spike after eating low-fat cottage cheese but not after eating high-fat. Molly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 kittenkorner kittenkorner@...> wrote: WHY would the non-fat have more of a negative effect than the regular, I would think since the fat is mostly removed it would be better. A lot of non fat items have added sugar to improve the taste. in Ohio Diabetes homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diabetes/ To unsubscribe to this group, send an email to: diabetes-unsubscribe Hope you come back soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Joyce, I have to look into this too. My hubby who has had diabetes for YEARS just thought to tell me that eating fat(s) lowers BS#s - something to do with how the body metabolizes them together or something. I have to find out because this might mean if I eat some more fats I can eat more carbs at one meal???? JUDITH ----- WHY would the non-fat have more of a negative effect than the regular, I would think since the fat is mostly removed it would be better. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.1/355 - Release Date: 6/2/06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Hi, I needed a snack at 3.30 PM so after reading your email I ate half a cup of 4% fat cottage cheese. 2 hours later my bg has not increased. I will try fat free cottage cheese next time to compare. This rule should also apply to yogurt I would think. le Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 > > Hi, > > I needed a snack at 3.30 PM so after reading your email I ate half a cup > of 4% fat cottage cheese. 2 hours later my bg has not increased. I will > try fat free cottage cheese next time to compare. This rule should also > apply to yogurt I would think. le True, it should apply. The 'variables' will be that yogurt (depending on the kind) may have some fruit in it (meaning a few more carbs)... and I don't recall if yogurt or cottage cheese has more protein (which will also slow down the absorption of carbs, just like fat). Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 4% fat Cottage cheese: 6 g of carbs per half cup - 14 g protein Plain 1% yogurt : 8 g carb per half cup - 5 g protein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 I hate cottage cheese and can't yeat yogurt. Anyone have any other ideas to add fat and protein to my diet? I'm also still trying to loose weight even after today being a food disaster day. I did add some low fat swiss cheese to my diet. I wonder if that is why my BS#s are better??? Learning. Judith > 4% fat Cottage cheese: 6 g of carbs per half cup - 14 g protein > > Plain 1% yogurt : 8 g carb per half cup - 5 g protein > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.2/357 - Release Date: 6/6/06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 > > I hate cottage cheese and can't yeat yogurt. Anyone have any other ideas > to > add fat and protein to my diet? I'm also still trying to loose weight > even > after today being a food disaster day. > > I did add some low fat swiss cheese to my diet. I wonder if that is why > my > BS#s are better??? Judith, if you eat salads, making a salad dressing with olive oil adds healthy fat to your diet. I've also made veggie soup and drizzled olive oil on top. You could also add tuna or chicken to your salad to add the protein. You've said you try to keep carbs down low.. .so you could put some beans of some kind in a salad too, they have carbs but are rich in protein and fiber. I don't know if you like hummus or not, but it is basically chickpeas and olive oil (depending on who makes it there may be lemon juice and other spices or flavorings like garlic). I like hummus and it's nice as a dip for veggies (especially cucumbers, celery or green peppers). Of course, this would give you a heart healthy oil, fiber and protein (along with some carbs). Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 > > I hate cottage cheese and can't yeat yogurt. Anyone have any other ideas > to > add fat and protein to my diet? I'm also still trying to loose weight > even > after today being a food disaster day. Another thought... if you like fish. Smoked salmon is a great source of protein and also contains healthy oils as well. You can get some at the grocery store (where I shop they have small portions pre-packaged), and eat it alone, on a salad or you could probably mix it with a small amount of mayo and make a spread for veggies. If you wanted some carbs at the same time, you could serve it on some high fiber crackers (like Wasa). I think that would make a nice snack too. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Mike, I love the stuff and eat as much of it as I can but have to figure out bread and stuff. Maybe the triscit thins I just found? Love crunch with meals and miss my chips! eat tuna fish like it is going out of style but hubby worries about the mercury content. love salty lox &/or nova too but there we go with bread stuff again :-( the fish I will eat has to have no bones or I just can't swollow anymore so I like either filet of sole or flounder which hubby says is either too expensive or for reasons he isn't sharing he doesn't like what he sees in the supermarkets and won't got to Hatfield fish market. I just have to get moving on it if I possibly can.... thanks JUDITH Another thought... if you like fish. Smoked salmon is a great source of protein and also contains healthy oils as well. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.2/357 - Release Date: 6/6/06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 hummus has garlic? I'll eat almost anything that has enough garlic! I'll check it out at the supermarket next time I go! thanks! JUDITH I don't know if you like hummus or not, but it is basically chickpeas and olive oil (depending on who makes it there may be lemon juice and other spices or flavorings like garlic). I like hummus and it's nice as a dip for veggies (especially cucumbers, celery or green peppers). Of course, this would give you a heart healthy oil, fiber and protein (along with some carbs). Mike -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.2/357 - Release Date: 6/6/06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 > > hummus has garlic? I'll eat almost anything that has enough garlic! > I'll > check it out at the supermarket next time I go! > > thanks! > > JUDITH > Yep, it sure does - you can make it at home pretty easily, too. It's chickpeas (aka garbanzo beans; I use canned), tahini sauce, garlic, olive oil, lemon juice, and maybe a little salt/cumin, blended in the food processor. Or you can use a blender. There's recipes in most cookbooks or if you want I can find the one I use and post it later. Very tasty! Molly , > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 hummus recipes http://tinyurl.com/jl56b Have A Good Day S Wilkinson Rome, New York ============================================================== Yep, it sure does - you can make it at home pretty easily, too. It's chickpeas (aka garbanzo beans; I use canned), tahini sauce, garlic, olive oil, lemon juice, and maybe a little salt/cumin, blended in the food processor. Or you can use a blender. There's recipes in most cookbooks or if you want I can find the one I use and post it later. Very tasty! Molly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 > > > I hate cottage cheese and can't yeat yogurt. Anyone have any other ideas to > add fat and protein to my diet? I'm also still trying to loose weight even > after today being a food disaster day. ********** Ricotta cheese mixed with a bit of cream and sf pudding or jello is a nice treat. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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