Re: Who should do transfer calls?

[Guest guest]

But do not forget that those same employees who are doing transfers are

no longer available for 911. You may quickly find that additional staff

is required and consuming all or more of the additional revenue.

Dick -- FF/EMT

Celina Fire Department

At 10:07 AM 1/30/2007, you wrote:

>I don't know about culture (OK make fun of this one.) but it is more

>about the money and how much the taxpayers have to pick up. If I can

>pick up another 300k by doing transfers with the same amount of

>employees then that is a savings of 300k to the taxpayers who I

>answer to. 911 calls pay squat.

>

>Henry

> Re: Re: [TEXAS_EMS] Who should do transfer calls?

>

>

>

> > Here in Calhoun County we do it all and want to keep it that way.

> >

> > Henry

> >

>

>And if I remember right, y'all always have done so, haven't you? I remember

>when my friend Louis worked there back in, I believe, the year a.d.

>1857 or so, y'all did NET's as well as 9-1-1.

>

>More than likely, the long-standing tradition of " doing it all " is part of

>your culture, and therefore works relatively seamlessly.

>

>Not so for many, probably most, public agencies.

>

>Good for y'all!

>

>

[Guest guest]

But with an increasing body of literature showing response times really

don't matter in terms of patient outcome-it may be a wash.

BEB

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From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On

Behalf Of Dick

Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:07 AM

To: texasems-l

Subject: Re: Who should do transfer calls?

But do not forget that those same employees who are doing transfers are

no longer available for 911. You may quickly find that additional staff

is required and consuming all or more of the additional revenue.

Dick -- FF/EMT

Celina Fire Department

At 10:07 AM 1/30/2007, you wrote:

>I don't know about culture (OK make fun of this one.) but it is more

>about the money and how much the taxpayers have to pick up. If I can

>pick up another 300k by doing transfers with the same amount of

>employees then that is a savings of 300k to the taxpayers who I

>answer to. 911 calls pay squat.

>

>Henry

> Re: Re: [TEXAS_EMS] Who should do transfer calls?

>

>In a message dated 1/30/07 9:07:34 AM, hbarber (AT) cableone (DOT)

<mailto:hbarber%40cableone.net> net writes:

>

> > Here in Calhoun County we do it all and want to keep it that way.

> >

> > Henry

> >

>

>And if I remember right, y'all always have done so, haven't you? I remember

>when my friend Louis worked there back in, I believe, the year

a.d.

>1857 or so, y'all did NET's as well as 9-1-1.

>

>More than likely, the long-standing tradition of " doing it all " is part of

>your culture, and therefore works relatively seamlessly.

>

>Not so for many, probably most, public agencies.

>

>Good for y'all!

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Where can I find the literature? My service has set a " benchmark " of

enroute in 90 sec from time of page. I find that really unrealistic.

They are simply justifying a 24/7 staffing that the city recently

implemented, with full pay for the up 4 hours from 1800 to 2200 and

minimum wage unless you get a call for the rest of the night.

Jules

Re: Who should do transfer calls?

But do not forget that those same employees who are doing transfers are

no longer available for 911. You may quickly find that additional staff

is required and consuming all or more of the additional revenue.

Dick -- FF/EMT

Celina Fire Department

At 10:07 AM 1/30/2007, you wrote:

>I don't know about culture (OK make fun of this one.) but it is more

>about the money and how much the taxpayers have to pick up. If I can

>pick up another 300k by doing transfers with the same amount of

>employees then that is a savings of 300k to the taxpayers who I

>answer to. 911 calls pay squat.

>

>Henry

> Re: Re: [TEXAS_EMS] Who should do transfer

calls?

>

>In a message dated 1/30/07 9:07:34 AM, hbarber (AT) cableone (DOT)

<mailto:hbarber%40cableone.net> net writes:

>

> > Here in Calhoun County we do it all and want to keep it that way.

> >

> > Henry

> >

>

>And if I remember right, y'all always have done so, haven't you? I

remember

>when my friend Louis worked there back in, I believe, the

year

a.d.

>1857 or so, y'all did NET's as well as 9-1-1.

>

>More than likely, the long-standing tradition of " doing it all " is

part of

>your culture, and therefore works relatively seamlessly.

>

>Not so for many, probably most, public agencies.

>

>Good for y'all!

>

>

[Guest guest]

I was doing some part time work just outside of Austin for a service

that required enroute at 60 seconds regardless of time of day. Rough ,

but we did it. No cheating either, 800mhZ so they knew if you were

keying from a handheld or from the truck. Would also be interested in

the literature.

Mike

Re: Who should do transfer calls?

But do not forget that those same employees who are doing transfers are

no longer available for 911. You may quickly find that additional staff

is required and consuming all or more of the additional revenue.

Dick -- FF/EMT

Celina Fire Department

At 10:07 AM 1/30/2007, you wrote:

>I don't know about culture (OK make fun of this one.) but it is more

>about the money and how much the taxpayers have to pick up. If I can

>pick up another 300k by doing transfers with the same amount of

>employees then that is a savings of 300k to the taxpayers who I

>answer to. 911 calls pay squat.

>

>Henry

> Re: Re: [TEXAS_EMS] Who should do transfer

calls?

>

>In a message dated 1/30/07 9:07:34 AM, hbarber (AT) cableone (DOT)

<mailto:hbarber%40cableone.net> net writes:

>

> > Here in Calhoun County we do it all and want to keep it that way.

> >

> > Henry

> >

>

>And if I remember right, y'all always have done so, haven't you? I

remember

>when my friend Louis worked there back in, I believe, the

year

a.d.

>1857 or so, y'all did NET's as well as 9-1-1.

>

>More than likely, the long-standing tradition of " doing it all " is

part of

>your culture, and therefore works relatively seamlessly.

>

>Not so for many, probably most, public agencies.

>

>Good for y'all!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Why is 90-sec a problem? Many fire departments have 60-sec

benchmarks, and some have 30. Granted, I doubt you can prove that 90

seconds makes a difference, btut does that really matter when a

defense attorney can make a jury BELIEVE it did?

Mike

> ,

>

> Where can I find the literature? My service has set a " benchmark " of

> enroute in 90 sec from time of page. I find that really unrealistic.

> They are simply justifying a 24/7 staffing that the city recently

> implemented, with full pay for the up 4 hours from 1800 to 2200 and

> minimum wage unless you get a call for the rest of the night.

[Guest guest]

Well, I didn't say it was a PROBLEM...I simply think it is unrealistic

and unnecessary...not to mention unsafe when you have a crew trying to

dress and run through a bay to trucks in under 90 seconds from a dead

sleep.

Some of us have assessory material that require additional effort and

could create an additional hazard...as in putting your bra on....

Jules

Re: Who should do transfer calls?

Why is 90-sec a problem? Many fire departments have 60-sec

benchmarks, and some have 30. Granted, I doubt you can prove that 90

seconds makes a difference, btut does that really matter when a

defense attorney can make a jury BELIEVE it did?

Mike

> ,

>

> Where can I find the literature? My service has set a " benchmark " of

> enroute in 90 sec from time of page. I find that really unrealistic.

> They are simply justifying a 24/7 staffing that the city recently

> implemented, with full pay for the up 4 hours from 1800 to 2200 and

> minimum wage unless you get a call for the rest of the night.

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