Weird Sensations Post Ablation...

April 18, 2006

HEy all,

Some of you might remember me from a few months back. I'm a 27 yr

old Weightlifter who was having Paroxymal AF, about one a year on

average. I had the catheter ablation done, and had an absolutely

perfect heartbeat for the first 2 months or so. It then wasn't so

perfect but close enough, as I wouldn't have noticable PACs but the

rhythm wasn't 100% perfect, more like about 95% perfect. Well in

the lsat 1 1/2 months (It's been about 5 months now post surgery) i

have been experiencing PACs again when i train, but not nearly as

bad as I used to, where i'd have them occur every other beat when my

heart rate was coming down, after exercise. I could feel it and it

was very discomforting.

Well now i have much more minor PACs occasionally on some workouts.

Today has been the worst though and it doesnt' feel exactly like a

PAC. It started early this morning. On the drive to work i had

PACs ocurring every now and then and when i got to work, i had a

sensation like a beat, pause, then 3 fast beats in a row and then

back to normal, and htis would happen periodically for a couple

hours. It was almost like my heart wanted to go into AFIB but

wasn't being allowed to, maybe because of the scarline from the

surgery.

Also i have been wearing a heart monitor, captured some recordings,

sent them into LifeWatch (who as some might know, wont' discuss

their findings with you). So i called the hospital, they brought up

the readings and saw normal Rhythm with PAC's occuring.

BUT TODAY, i sent readings in of this weird sensation i have had all

day today and the Lifewatch people said there is little things in

the EKG but nothing that is an emergency, and when i called the

hospital it alked to a nurse i never talk to who didn't bother

bringing up the EKG's. She said she will get me in tomorrow for an

EKG at the hospital, but by then it may not be doing this.

Anyways, has anyone experienced this weird sensation and is it

common to have these things happen 5 months out from teh surgery?

And will it go away? I'm getting nervous again.

Thanks, Dave.

April 18, 2006

I am guessing here but that sounds a little like SVT (super ventricular

tachycardia) to me. That's what SVT feels like to me.

Lil

n a message dated 4/18/2006 5:02:07 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

crashoverride734@... writes:

I don't feel that i was out of sinus or anything, but i KNOW i was

having skipped beats and that other weird thing going on that i

explained earlier, with a pause then 3 fast beats...almost like it

wants to jump out of sinus but doesn't.

April 18, 2006

Did you mean to write arrhythmia? That means irregular, so if it's MARKED

irregularity, which means noticable, she should have been able to tell you what

the irregularity is/was? I'm not sure how you could have an irregular but

normal ECG?

Hopefully someone else will be able to look at your ECG and give more help...

but the diagnosis seems weird to me?

She said it showed only marked sinus arrhythmia but otherwise normal ECG>

April 18, 2006

Yes that's right. The computer printout says at the top " Sinus

rhythm with marked sinus arrhythmia, otherwise normal ECG " .

She said when i take deep breaths the heart rate slows i guess, and

this is normal (well duh). But that isn't what i have been

experiencing. This is very annoying. It's like my heart knew i was

going to be at the doc so for the time the EKG recorded, it didnt

mess up lol. OR, my doc didnt' read it right. HOpefully someone

else can take a look and tell me. VERY ANNOYING, because i know

what skipped beats feel like and i knwo when something is going on.

I don't feel that i was out of sinus or anything, but i KNOW i was

having skipped beats and that other weird thing going on that i

explained earlier, with a pause then 3 fast beats...almost like it

wants to jump out of sinus but doesn't.

>

> Did you mean to write arrhythmia? That means irregular, so if

it's MARKED irregularity, which means noticable, she should have

been able to tell you what the irregularity is/was? I'm not sure

how you could have an irregular but normal ECG?

>

> Hopefully someone else will be able to look at your ECG and give

more help... but the diagnosis seems weird to me?

>

> She said it showed only marked sinus arrhythmia but otherwise

normal ECG>

>

April 18, 2006

I dont' think it was that. I had one episode of that about 4 yrs

ago and it wasn't anything like i had here, very shortlived. That

episode i had my heartrate had to go over 300bpm. This it would

beat fast 3 times, about 3 in 1 1/2 seconds then return to normal.

>

> I am guessing here but that sounds a little like SVT (super

ventricular

> tachycardia) to me. That's what SVT feels like to me.

> Lil

>

> n a message dated 4/18/2006 5:02:07 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> crashoverride734@... writes:

>

> I don't feel that i was out of sinus or anything, but i KNOW i

was

> having skipped beats and that other weird thing going on that i

> explained earlier, with a pause then 3 fast beats...almost like

it

> wants to jump out of sinus but doesn't.

>

April 18, 2006

> I just went to the doc and did an EKG. She said it showed only

> marked sinus arrhythmia but otherwise normal ECG>

>

> THere's no way that's possible. I know what i felt. I think the

> machine just didn't pick it up for the short time it was recording.

Dave: You can have sinus arrhythmia and still have ectopic beats

like you're describing. Most docs say that those are benign.

Certainly scary from a mental standpoint, however.

We all have ectopic beats and sometimes we feel them and sometimes we

don't. When we do we seem to feel them more often as time goes on.

If you're really concerned ask your doc for a 48 hour Holter, or even

better, an even recorder that you wear for a week or so and you press

the button when you feel one of your weird sensations coming on.

Gordon

April 19, 2006

Sinus Arrhymia is oddly a variation of normal. The sinus note pace maker, in the

case of sinus arrhytmia does not fire on a perfectly regular pace. The

variations in timing are usually tied in to respiration. This rhythm would not

produce skipped beat or fluttering sensations. Of course a normal 12 EKG only

gives a look at heart activity for a very brief time, and all of the ectopy was

not captured on the reading.

Dave crashoverride734@...> wrote: Yes that's right. The computer

printout says at the top " Sinus