Re: Texas teen fighting efforts by police to remove bullet from ...

[Guest guest]

I don't think the MRI has enough resolution to confirm that a projectile

came from a specific fire arm.

Kirk

EMT-B

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/22/2006 8:29:29 AM Central Standard Time,

ewalker@... writes:

Mike, come on. There is a simple way to get the bullet. It's called an MRI,

is doubtful that a copper jacketed lead bullet will be substantially moved

by even a high Tesla (fine resolution) MRI....enough electric current may be

induced to cause the slug to heat up substantially, but no movement...

Generally needs a *magnetic* (iron, nickle, cobalt or one of their alloys)

to get substantial movement.

ck

S. Krin, DO FAAFP

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/22/2006 8:29:29 AM Central Standard Time,

ewalker@... writes:

Prosecutor Ramon said gang members who took part in the

robbery identified Bush as one of those involved. When he was

questioned about a week later, Bush admitted to taking part in the

robbery but not to the shooting, police said.

" The officers noticed the guy looks like hell. One of his eyes is

black, and he has a big old knot on his forehead, " said. " He

tells police he got hurt playing basketball. "

A few days later, Bush went to the hospital and told doctors he had

been hit by a stray bullet as he sat on a couch in an apartment.

At this point, AFAIK, the defense lawyer is in the point of pounding the

table....the law is not on his client's side, the facts are not on his client's

side, and basically, there are going to be some docs who are liable to be

found in contempt of court some where along the way.

The rough size of the slug has probably been confirmed on plain film xray by

now....there should be some evidence around his house (like a broken window)

that should confirm the story about getting hit at home...if the kid really

was shot at home 'by a stray bullet,' then a 'reasonable person' would

connect the dots and say that the kid should be willing to have the slug

removed

because it could not be a match to the shop owner's firearm.

In the face of a court order, I'd have a tough time not being willing to

remove the bullet in a situation like this.

Either it's going to clear the kid, or provide proof that he's a

goblin...and if he's a goblin, he's not deserving of breathing free air for a

while.

ck

[Guest guest]

Since most bullets are copper clad lead, I doubt seriously if a magnet would

affect it. I've seen shrapnel inadvertently extracted that way, but not a

bullet.

Kirk

EMT-B

[Guest guest]

Maybe not, but it may be able to extract it. :-)

Eddie , EMT-P

Director of Clinical Services

4100 Ed Bluestein Blvd., Suite 100

Austin, TX 78721

ext. 110

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From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On

Behalf Of N5XNU@...

Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 9:17 AM

To: texasems-l

Subject: Re: Texas teen fighting efforts by police to remove

bullet from ...

I don't think the MRI has enough resolution to confirm that a projectile

came from a specific fire arm.

Kirk

EMT-B

[Guest guest]

You're forgetting one very important thing about MRI.... Magnets.

Nuff' said. It would be a very painful way to get the bullet.

Joe Percer, EMT-B.

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> I don't think the MRI has enough resolution to confirm that a projectile

>

> came from a specific fire arm.

>

> Kirk

> EMT-B

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>

[Guest guest]

Didn't forget about them. Gotta get the evidence somehow.

Eddie , EMT-P

Director of Clinical Services

4100 Ed Bluestein Blvd., Suite 100

Austin, TX 78721

ext. 110

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From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On

Behalf Of ph Percer

Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 9:33 AM

To: texasems-l

Subject: Re: Texas teen fighting efforts by police to remove

bullet from ...

You're forgetting one very important thing about MRI.... Magnets.

Nuff' said. It would be a very painful way to get the bullet.

Joe Percer, EMT-B.

On 12/22/06, N5XNU@... <mailto:N5XNU%40aol.com> <N5XNU@...

<mailto:N5XNU%40aol.com> > wrote:

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> I don't think the MRI has enough resolution to confirm that a projectile

>

> came from a specific fire arm.

>

> Kirk

> EMT-B

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>

[Guest guest]

The cost of replacing the magnet in the MRI might be more expensive than the

surgery, though.

-Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, EMT

Austin, Texas

Re: Texas teen fighting efforts by police to remove

bullet from ...

I don't think the MRI has enough resolution to confirm that a projectile

came from a specific fire arm.

Kirk

EMT-B

[Guest guest]

Could you charge him with shooting the MRI, since the bullet came from his

head?

Mike

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> The cost of replacing the magnet in the MRI might be more expensive than

> the surgery, though.

>

> -Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, EMT

> Austin, Texas

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> Re: Texas teen fighting efforts by police to remove

> bullet from ...

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> I don't think the MRI has enough resolution to confirm that a projectile

> came from a specific fire arm.

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> Kirk

> EMT-B

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