Guest guest Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 Many of us on Coumadin feel we can get by on less of if we minimize our intake of Vitamin K. Eliminating Vitamin K has a risk of increased propensity for bone fractures among other risks. The key is to find a consistent intake of Vitamin K and adjust our Coumadin to that level. Vitamin K is essential to our bodies. The Life Extension Foundation published an article on this in their April magazine. I found it very good reading and learned some things and hope you will, too. I don't plan to take Vit. K supplements but I sure plan to continue it in my diet. LEF does sell supplements. They also do more research on supplements than any organization I know. Go to: http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2006/apr2006_report_vitamink_01.htm Gordon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 Yes, I tried this approach myself this month. My INR normally runs about 2.0, but this past month I avoided nearly all leafy greens. (I take 7.5 mg warfarin daily). The result: my INR this Thursday was 3.1. So if you think intake of Vitamin K - rich foods has little bearing on your INR results, think again. Mike in Minnesota > > Many of us on Coumadin feel we can get by on less of if we minimize > our intake of Vitamin K. > > Eliminating Vitamin K has a risk of increased propensity for bone > fractures among other risks. The key is to find a consistent intake > of Vitamin K and adjust our Coumadin to that level. Vitamin K is > essential to our bodies. > Gordon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 Hi Mike The key is to stick to the same amount of Vit K foods, consistency is the key Re: Vitamin K Requirements Yes, I tried this approach myself this month. My INR normally runs about 2.0, but this past month I avoided nearly all leafy greens. (I take 7.5 mg warfarin daily). The result: my INR this Thursday was 3.1. So if you think intake of Vitamin K - rich foods has little bearing on your INR results, think again. Mike in Minnesota > > Many of us on Coumadin feel we can get by on less of if we minimize > our intake of Vitamin K. > > Eliminating Vitamin K has a risk of increased propensity for bone > fractures among other risks. The key is to find a consistent intake > of Vitamin K and adjust our Coumadin to that level. Vitamin K is > essential to our bodies. > Gordon Web Page - http://www.afibsupport.com List owner: AFIBsupport-owner For help on how to use the group, including how to drive it via email, send a blank email to AFIBsupport-help Nothing in this message should be considered as medical advice, or should be acted upon without consultation with one's physician. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 Hello Mike: It isn't just green leafy veggies that will alter your INR, I believe large portions of meat and or bread will lower your INR. 1 cup of flour has about 350mcg of vitamin K. Last August I was on vacation and ate lots of salads and very little meat. When I came back and had my INR tested it was 2.2.....What helps me is to stay away from Canola oil(high in vitamin K) and I use only sesame or olive oil on my salads or for cooking. snip................> > > this month. My INR normally > runs > > about 2.0, but this past month I avoided nearly all leafy greens. I take 7.5 mg warfarin daily). The result: my INR this Thursday was 3.1. So if you think intake of Vitamin K - rich foods has little bearing on your INR results, think again. > > > > Mike in Minnesota > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 HI I try to eat green veggies everyday. My INR is almost always between 2.1 to 2.4. The key is to make sure you eat the same amount of greens each day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 That didn't work for my husband. The green veggies are not all interchangeable with the others, and he likes spinach. Spinach has at least 3 times as much vitamin K as the others that we ate. http://www.ars.usda.gov/Services/docs.htm?docid=9673 Jo Anne Re: Re: Vitamin K Requirements HI I try to eat green veggies everyday. My INR is almost always between 2.1 to 2.4. The key is to make sure you eat the same amount of greens each day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Hi to all. I see a lot of discussion about " leafy greens " but please be aware of all the things that influence INR. One list I found is as follows :- Found in kelp, alfalfa, green plants, leafy green vegetables, cow's milk, yogurt, egg yolks, black strap molasses, polyunsaturated oils, fish liver oils. Also Alcohol I'm afraid! I got caught out because I always have a bowl of cerial before bed, which I don't have on holiday in a hot country. My INR went over 5.5 while in Portugal, I now guess it was the cow's milk in the cerial that was missing. I have read that Vitamin K can be produced in the intestines and this function is improved with the presence of cultured milk, like yogurt, in the diet, Vitamin K is classified as a fat-soluble vitamin If I can get my defense in quick - I stopped drinking all alcohol 3 years ago, I'm on 6mg of warferin a day, and my INR is 2.5 - 3 month in month out. Consistency is the Key. With Easter coming up, wasn't it nice to read in the paper that chocolate is good for you??? Now that one I would take with a pinch of salt! Regards To all wstephenp > > Hi Mike > The key is to stick to the same amount of Vit K foods, consistency is the key > > > On Behalf Of Sellon > Sent: 08 April 2006 14:47 > To: AFIBsupport > Subject: Re: Vitamin K Requirements > > Yes, I tried this approach myself this month. My INR normally runs about 2.0, but this past month I avoided nearly all leafy greens. (I take 7.5 mg warfarin daily). The result: my INR this Thursday was > 3.1. So if you think intake of Vitamin K - rich foods has little > bearing on your INR results, think again. > > Mike in Minnesota > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Hi Mike My INR is always out when I return from my annual holiday, it is very difficult to keep to same diet, different foods in a different country, just need to get back on track when I return. ine Re: Vitamin K Requirements > > Yes, I tried this approach myself this month. My INR normally runs about 2.0, but this past month I avoided nearly all leafy greens. (I take 7.5 mg warfarin daily). The result: my INR this Thursday was > 3.1. So if you think intake of Vitamin K - rich foods has little > bearing on your INR results, think again. > > Mike in Minnesota > Web Page - http://www.afibsupport.com List owner: AFIBsupport-owner For help on how to use the group, including how to drive it via email, send a blank email to AFIBsupport-help Nothing in this message should be considered as medical advice, or should be acted upon without consultation with one's physician. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Since the moderator has asked that long posting history be deleted when posting, I now have a hard time telling what was the " original message " because the " original message " words are DELETED TOO very often. Can't we LEAVE the " From/To/Sent/Subject " info intact like it is below from now on, and then scroll to the bottom and delete up to the end of the " original message " , before sending? Gerald Re: Vitamin K Requirements Hi to all. I see a lot of discussion about " leafy greens " but please be aware of all the things that influence INR. One list I found is as follows :- Found in kelp, alfalfa, green plants, leafy green vegetables, cow's milk, yogurt, egg yolks, black strap molasses, polyunsaturated oils, fish liver oils. Also Alcohol I'm afraid! I got caught out because I always have a bowl of cerial before bed, which I don't have on holiday in a hot country. My INR went over 5.5 while in Portugal, I now guess it was the cow's milk in the cerial that was missing. I have read that Vitamin K can be produced in the intestines and this function is improved with the presence of cultured milk, like yogurt, in the diet, Vitamin K is classified as a fat-soluble vitamin If I can get my defense in quick - I stopped drinking all alcohol 3 years ago, I'm on 6mg of warferin a day, and my INR is 2.5 - 3 month in month out. Consistency is the Key. With Easter coming up, wasn't it nice to read in the paper that chocolate is good for you??? Now that one I would take with a pinch of salt! Regards To all wstephenp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 Hi ine / Mike Most clinics and I guess all hospitals in tourist areas have the ability to test INR and give you an immediate reading. I usually reduce my Warferin slightly while I'm in Portugal (learned from experience in the last number of trips (say 6 times x 3 weeks)and have it tested at the end of the second week. The cost in the clinic is 9.20 Euros, and the answer immediate. As my INR is always stable at home, any adjustment made goes back to my normal 6mg a day when I get home and a test again the next week. wstephenp > Hi Mike > My INR is always out when I return from my annual holiday, it is very > difficult to keep to same diet, different foods in a different country, > just need to get back on track when I return. > ine > > Re: Vitamin K Requirements > > > > Yes, I tried this approach myself this month. My INR normally > runs about 2.0, but this past month I avoided nearly all leafy greens. > (I take 7.5 mg warfarin daily). The result: my INR this Thursday was > > 3.1. So if you think intake of Vitamin K - rich foods has little > > bearing on your INR results, think again. > > > > Mike in Minnesota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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