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Does he have any difficulty hearing?

-Wes Ogilvie

In a message dated 7/14/2006 9:52:19 PM Central Daylight Time,

bbledsoe@... writes:

Several years ago a family from New York moves to your town and opens the

best Italian restaurant in town. The owners are friendly second-generation

Italian-Americans and the food is as good as you can get in New York City.

The restaurant is popular with EMS crews. One day, one of the two co-owners

of the restaurant comes to the table and asks questions about his brother

. is 48-years-old and, approximately four months, began to have

problems sleeping. Later he developed panic attacks and developed a morbid

fear of dead human bodies and yellow cheese. Lately, has gotten worse.

He rarely sleeps and is now having increased panic attacks, vivid

hallucinations, becomes easily agitated and sweats copiously at times.

Interestingly, he does not produce tears any more and his eyes are very dry

and he is constantly scratching them or instilling Murine eye drops. He also

has diminished pain perception and has burned himself several times in the

kitchen, His brother Luigi is very concerned about and wonders if you

know what might be wrong with him.

What is wrong with ?

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Acoustic neuroma?

-Wes Ogilvie

In a message dated 7/14/2006 10:10:50 PM Central Daylight Time,

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No. But he has visual and aural hallucinations. He hears bells.

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Does he have any difficulty hearing?

-Wes Ogilvie

In a message dated 7/14/2006 9:52:19 PM Central Daylight Time,

bbledsoe@... writes:

Several years ago a family from New York moves to your town and opens the

best Italian restaurant in town. The owners are friendly second-generation

Italian-Americans and the food is as good as you can get in New York City.

The restaurant is popular with EMS crews. One day, one of the two co-owners

of the restaurant comes to the table and asks questions about his brother

. is 48-years-old and, approximately four months, began to have

problems sleeping. Later he developed panic attacks and developed a morbid

fear of dead human bodies and yellow cheese. Lately, has gotten worse.

He rarely sleeps and is now having increased panic attacks, vivid

hallucinations, becomes easily agitated and sweats copiously at times.

Interestingly, he does not produce tears any more and his eyes are very dry

and he is constantly scratching them or instilling Murine eye drops. He also

has diminished pain perception and has burned himself several times in the

kitchen, His brother Luigi is very concerned about and wonders if you

know what might be wrong with him.

What is wrong with ?

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Am I close or way off base???

Sjögren's Syndrome

Sjögren's syndrome is a chronic disorder of unknown cause characterized by a

particular form of dry mouth and dry eyes. This loss of tears and saliva

may result in characteristic changes in the eyes (called aqueous tear

deficiency or keratoconjunctivitis sicca) and in the mouth with deterioration

of the

teeth, increased oral infection, difficulty in swallowing, and painful mouth.

Sjögren's syndrome usually occurs in middle-aged women and has prevalence in

about 1 in 500 persons. Patients may also have inflammation of the joints

(arthritis), muscles (myositis), nerves (neuropathy), thyroid (thyroiditis),

kidneys (nephritis), or other areas of the body. Also, patients may have

severe fatigue and disruption of their sleep pattern. Because the blood of

Sjögren's patients may contain antibodies directed against normal cellular

substances such as nuclear antigens and immunoglobulins, this disease is termed

an

" autoimmune " disorder to denote the apparent reaction of the immune system

against the patient's own tissues. The trigger for this process remains

unknown

but may be a virus.

Diagnosis is based on clinical examination of the eyes and mouth. Specific

blood tests and a biopsy of the minor salivary gland (taken from the inside

of the lower lip) help confirm the diagnosis. Sjögren's syndrome is not

fatal. However, attention must be paid to preventing the complications due to

dry

mouth and to dry eyes, as well as treatment of other organ systems involved

as a consequence of the disease.

The risk for passing this disease on to family members is extremely low.

There is a slightly increased incidence of autoimmune diseases in siblings and

children. Pregnant women should notify their obstetricians and

pediatricians, since maternal autoantibodies may cross the placenta and cause

problems for

the infant.

It is likely that the mouth and eye dryness results both from destruction of

the salivary glands and from interruption of nerve signals that control

secretion. In the early stages of Sjögren's syndrome, patients experience

maximum dryness between meals and during the night due to a diminished " basal "

secretion, but are still able to eat dry food without difficulty. As the

" dryness " syndrome progresses, more fluid is required to eat and swallow.

The diminished salivary flow also predisposes to periodontal disease and

oral yeast infections such as Candida. Severe sensitivity to spicy foods and

alcohol is a common complaint; in the same way, mouthwashes and dental products

containing essential oils, such as eugenol, may be intolerable.

In some patients, the infiltration of lymphocytes into the parotid or

submandibular glands causes pain and swelling. To determine the extent of

salivary

gland destruction associated with oral dryness, a biopsy may be taken from

the lower lip. This biopsy is important since it shows how many (if any)

salivary glands remain and reveals the type of inflammatory infiltrate present.

Although Sjögren's syndrome characteristically affects the eyes and the

mouth, other parts of the body may also be affected. Joint and muscle pain are

frequently present. In some cases, this is due to rheumatoid arthritis (RA),

systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE) or SLE-like diseases. These diagnoses are

confirmed by blood tests and x-rays of the joint. However, in some cases,

the muscle and joint pain is due to Sjögren's.

Fatigue is another common symptom. It is important to rule out

hypothyroidism (which may develop in up to 20% of Sjögren's syndrome patients),

anemia

(due to decreased production of blood cells as well as blood loss from taking

medicines such as aspirin, Advil or Naproxen for the joint pains), and poor

sleeping patterns (especially due to frequent trips to the bathroom at night

because of large oral fluid intake during the day). Decrease in memory and

concentration sometimes occurs and may be to the release of inflammatory

substances by the immune system. They can also occur due to disrupted sleep

pattern. Skin rashes, lung inflammation, swollen lymph nodes, and other

symptoms

also occur.

Although the initial trigger that sets off the autoimmune events leading to

Sjögren's remains unknown, circumstantial evidence suggests that a virus is

involved. One possible candidate is the Epstein-Barr virus (EBV), which

causes infectious mononucleosis, a condition characterized by swollen salivary

glands, joint aches and fatigue. Virtually all adults have been infected with

EBV by age 20 years. After the initial infection, this virus normally resides

in the salivary glands for life but causes no problems. It has been

speculated that this virus (or a closely-related virus) may trigger an

autoimmune

response in genetically susceptible individuals.

The putative infectious agent damages the salivary gland and attracts the

" immune " lymphocytes into the salivary gland. These lymphocytes release

specific autoantibodies such as rheumatoid factor (RF) and antinuclear

antibodies;

antibodies are directed against proteins termed Sjögren's-associated antigens

A and B (or SS-A and SS-B). These antibodies can enter the bloodstream and

are measured in the blood tests that we obtain to confirm the diagnosis of

Sjögren's syndrome. Additional T cells enter the gland and the damage is

perpetuated. Under normal circumstances, a class of cells called " suppressor

cells " turn off the inflammatory process. The continued destruction of the

gland

represents the abnormal balance of excessive action of T-helper cells and

deficient action of T-suppressor cells.

At the present time, no therapies are available to " cure " the underlying

causes of Sjögren's syndrome. Therefore, therapies are directed at improving

symptoms, preventing the complications (such as dental caries, oral candida, or

corneal damage) and preventing disease progression. In patients with

autoimmune attack on the glands (i.e., Sjögren's syndrome), there may also be

autoimmune attack on the joints (arthritis), muscles (myositis), thyroid

(thyroiditis), lung (pneumonitis), kidney (nephritis), or other tissues that

require

specific treatment. Also, there is a slightly increased risk of developing

lymphoma (a tumor of the lymph nodes), so careful attention is paid to

persistent swelling of these structures.

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Some sort of neuropathy is at work here. What toxins has he been exposed

to? I suspect some kind of poisoning or a tumor. Looking further. What

would cause him to be insomniac and also dry eyed? An pituitary or adrenal

tumor?

But how would they explain his peripheral neuropathy? And I can't find

anything that links with necrophobia and turophobia. Good one, .

Gene G.

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Let's do a blood level for lead, arsenic, and other heavy metals. I'm now

thinking that he may drink a lot of red wine which is possibly tainted with

lead. The typical presentation is not what you have described, but it should

be ruled out.

Gene G.

>

> Several years ago a family from New York moves to your town and opens the

> best Italian restaurant in town. The owners are friendly second-generation

> Italian-Americans and the food is as good as you can get in New York City.

> The restaurant is popular with EMS crews. One day, one of the two co-owners

> of the restaurant comes to the table and asks questions about his brother

> . is 48-years-old and, approximately four months, began to have

> problems sleeping. Later he developed panic attacks and developed a morbid

> fear of dead human bodies and yellow cheese. Lately, has gotten worse.

> He rarely sleeps and is now having increased panic attacks, vivid

> hallucinations, becomes easily agitated and sweats copiously at times.

> Interestingly, he does not produce tears any more and his eyes are very dry

> and he is constantly scratching them or instilling Murine eye drops. He also

> has diminished pain perception and has burned himself several times in the

> kitchen, His brother Luigi is very concerned about and wonders if you

> know what might be wrong with him.

>

> What is wrong with ?

>

>

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Can we know 's vital signs?

Gene G.

>

> Several years ago a family from New York moves to your town and opens the

> best Italian restaurant in town. The owners are friendly second-generation

> Italian-Americans and the food is as good as you can get in New York City.

> The restaurant is popular with EMS crews. One day, one of the two co-owners

> of the restaurant comes to the table and asks questions about his brother

> . is 48-years-old and, approximately four months, began to have

> problems sleeping. Later he developed panic attacks and developed a morbid

> fear of dead human bodies and yellow cheese. Lately, has gotten worse.

> He rarely sleeps and is now having increased panic attacks, vivid

> hallucinations, becomes easily agitated and sweats copiously at times.

> Interestingly, he does not produce tears any more and his eyes are very dry

> and he is constantly scratching them or instilling Murine eye drops. He also

> has diminished pain perception and has burned himself several times in the

> kitchen, His brother Luigi is very concerned about and wonders if you

> know what might be wrong with him.

>

> What is wrong with ?

>

>

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Has been doing any rodent control? Could he have low level strychnine

poisoning? Has he been taking any kind of OTC drugs for allergies, et

cetera? How has his urine output been? Is he " dry " all over, or just in his

eyes?

I still can't find anything that speaks to the necrophobia and turophobia.

Gene G.

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Is there a medical diagnosis for that condition?

GG

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> He married my ex wife?

>

> Hatfield FF/EMT-P

>

> www.canyonlakefire- www.ca

>

> www.michaelhatfield www

>

> (updated 6.15.06)

>

> Now a real conundrum...

>

> Several years ago a family from New York moves to your town and opens the

> best Italian restaurant in town. The owners are friendly second-generation

> Italian-Americans and the food is as good as you can get in New York City.

> The restaurant is popular with EMS crews. One day, one of the two co-owners

> of the restaurant comes to the table and asks questions about his brother

> . is 48-years-old and, approximately four months, began to have

> problems sleeping. Later he developed panic attacks and developed a morbid

> fear of dead human bodies and yellow cheese. Lately, has gotten worse.

> He rarely sleeps and is now having increased panic attacks, vivid

> hallucinations, becomes easily agitated and sweats copiously at times.

> Interestingly, he does not produce tears any more and his eyes are very dry

> and he is constantly scratching them or instilling Murine eye drops. He also

> has diminished pain perception and has burned himself several times in the

> kitchen, His brother Luigi is very concerned about and wonders if you

> know what might be wrong with him.

>

> What is wrong with ?

>

>

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Several years ago a family from New York moves to your town and opens the

best Italian restaurant in town. The owners are friendly second-generation

Italian-Americans and the food is as good as you can get in New York City.

The restaurant is popular with EMS crews. One day, one of the two co-owners

of the restaurant comes to the table and asks questions about his brother

. is 48-years-old and, approximately four months, began to have

problems sleeping. Later he developed panic attacks and developed a morbid

fear of dead human bodies and yellow cheese. Lately, has gotten worse.

He rarely sleeps and is now having increased panic attacks, vivid

hallucinations, becomes easily agitated and sweats copiously at times.

Interestingly, he does not produce tears any more and his eyes are very dry

and he is constantly scratching them or instilling Murine eye drops. He also

has diminished pain perception and has burned himself several times in the

kitchen, His brother Luigi is very concerned about and wonders if you

know what might be wrong with him.

What is wrong with ?

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Got to do some more reading.. But I am leaning toward Drug abuse (Amphetamines)

Tom

Now a real conundrum....

Several years ago a family from New York moves to your town and opens the

best Italian restaurant in town. The owners are friendly second-generation

Italian-Americans and the food is as good as you can get in New York City.

The restaurant is popular with EMS crews. One day, one of the two co-owners

of the restaurant comes to the table and asks questions about his brother

. is 48-years-old and, approximately four months, began to have

problems sleeping. Later he developed panic attacks and developed a morbid

fear of dead human bodies and yellow cheese. Lately, has gotten worse.

He rarely sleeps and is now having increased panic attacks, vivid

hallucinations, becomes easily agitated and sweats copiously at times.

Interestingly, he does not produce tears any more and his eyes are very dry

and he is constantly scratching them or instilling Murine eye drops. He also

has diminished pain perception and has burned himself several times in the

kitchen, His brother Luigi is very concerned about and wonders if you

know what might be wrong with him.

What is wrong with ?

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He married my ex wife?

Hatfield FF/EMT-P

www.canyonlakefire-ems.org

www.michaelhatfield.net

(updated 6.15.06)

Now a real conundrum....

Several years ago a family from New York moves to your town and opens the

best Italian restaurant in town. The owners are friendly second-generation

Italian-Americans and the food is as good as you can get in New York City.

The restaurant is popular with EMS crews. One day, one of the two co-owners

of the restaurant comes to the table and asks questions about his brother

. is 48-years-old and, approximately four months, began to have

problems sleeping. Later he developed panic attacks and developed a morbid

fear of dead human bodies and yellow cheese. Lately, has gotten worse.

He rarely sleeps and is now having increased panic attacks, vivid

hallucinations, becomes easily agitated and sweats copiously at times.

Interestingly, he does not produce tears any more and his eyes are very dry

and he is constantly scratching them or instilling Murine eye drops. He also

has diminished pain perception and has burned himself several times in the

kitchen, His brother Luigi is very concerned about and wonders if you

know what might be wrong with him.

What is wrong with ?

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One other consideration would be is there a source of Mercury somwhere?

Tom

Now a real conundrum... .

Several years ago a family from New York moves to your town and opens the

best Italian restaurant in town. The owners are friendly second-generation

Italian-Americans and the food is as good as you can get in New York City.

The restaurant is popular with EMS crews. One day, one of the two co-owners

of the restaurant comes to the table and asks questions about his brother

. is 48-years-old and, approximately four months, began to have

problems sleeping. Later he developed panic attacks and developed a morbid

fear of dead human bodies and yellow cheese. Lately, has gotten worse.

He rarely sleeps and is now having increased panic attacks, vivid

hallucinations, becomes easily agitated and sweats copiously at times.

Interestingly, he does not produce tears any more and his eyes are very dry

and he is constantly scratching them or instilling Murine eye drops. He also

has diminished pain perception and has burned himself several times in the

kitchen, His brother Luigi is very concerned about and wonders if you

know what might be wrong with him.

What is wrong with ?

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Some similar symptoms (dry eye) but no.

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Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 10:47 PM

To: texasems-l

Subject: Re: Now a real conundrum....

Am I close or way off base???

Sjögren's Syndrome

Sjögren's syndrome is a chronic disorder of unknown cause characterized by a

particular form of dry mouth and dry eyes. This loss of tears and saliva

may result in characteristic changes in the eyes (called aqueous tear

deficiency or keratoconjunctivitis sicca) and in the mouth with

deterioration of the

teeth, increased oral infection, difficulty in swallowing, and painful

mouth.

Sjögren's syndrome usually occurs in middle-aged women and has prevalence in

about 1 in 500 persons. Patients may also have inflammation of the joints

(arthritis), muscles (myositis), nerves (neuropathy), thyroid (thyroiditis),

kidneys (nephritis), or other areas of the body. Also, patients may have

severe fatigue and disruption of their sleep pattern. Because the blood of

Sjögren's patients may contain antibodies directed against normal cellular

substances such as nuclear antigens and immunoglobulins, this disease is

termed an

" autoimmune " disorder to denote the apparent reaction of the immune system

against the patient's own tissues. The trigger for this process remains

unknown

but may be a virus.

Diagnosis is based on clinical examination of the eyes and mouth. Specific

blood tests and a biopsy of the minor salivary gland (taken from the inside

of the lower lip) help confirm the diagnosis. Sjögren's syndrome is not

fatal. However, attention must be paid to preventing the complications due

to dry

mouth and to dry eyes, as well as treatment of other organ systems involved

as a consequence of the disease.

The risk for passing this disease on to family members is extremely low.

There is a slightly increased incidence of autoimmune diseases in siblings

and

children. Pregnant women should notify their obstetricians and

pediatricians, since maternal autoantibodies may cross the placenta and

cause problems for

the infant.

It is likely that the mouth and eye dryness results both from destruction of

the salivary glands and from interruption of nerve signals that control

secretion. In the early stages of Sjögren's syndrome, patients experience

maximum dryness between meals and during the night due to a diminished

" basal "

secretion, but are still able to eat dry food without difficulty. As the

" dryness " syndrome progresses, more fluid is required to eat and swallow.

The diminished salivary flow also predisposes to periodontal disease and

oral yeast infections such as Candida. Severe sensitivity to spicy foods and

alcohol is a common complaint; in the same way, mouthwashes and dental

products

containing essential oils, such as eugenol, may be intolerable.

In some patients, the infiltration of lymphocytes into the parotid or

submandibular glands causes pain and swelling. To determine the extent of

salivary

gland destruction associated with oral dryness, a biopsy may be taken from

the lower lip. This biopsy is important since it shows how many (if any)

salivary glands remain and reveals the type of inflammatory infiltrate

present.

Although Sjögren's syndrome characteristically affects the eyes and the

mouth, other parts of the body may also be affected. Joint and muscle pain

are

frequently present. In some cases, this is due to rheumatoid arthritis (RA),

systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE) or SLE-like diseases. These diagnoses are

confirmed by blood tests and x-rays of the joint. However, in some cases,

the muscle and joint pain is due to Sjögren's.

Fatigue is another common symptom. It is important to rule out

hypothyroidism (which may develop in up to 20% of Sjögren's syndrome

patients), anemia

(due to decreased production of blood cells as well as blood loss from

taking

medicines such as aspirin, Advil or Naproxen for the joint pains), and poor

sleeping patterns (especially due to frequent trips to the bathroom at night

because of large oral fluid intake during the day). Decrease in memory and

concentration sometimes occurs and may be to the release of inflammatory

substances by the immune system. They can also occur due to disrupted sleep

pattern. Skin rashes, lung inflammation, swollen lymph nodes, and other

symptoms

also occur.

Although the initial trigger that sets off the autoimmune events leading to

Sjögren's remains unknown, circumstantial evidence suggests that a virus is

involved. One possible candidate is the Epstein-Barr virus (EBV), which

causes infectious mononucleosis, a condition characterized by swollen

salivary

glands, joint aches and fatigue. Virtually all adults have been infected

with

EBV by age 20 years. After the initial infection, this virus normally

resides

in the salivary glands for life but causes no problems. It has been

speculated that this virus (or a closely-related virus) may trigger an

autoimmune

response in genetically susceptible individuals.

The putative infectious agent damages the salivary gland and attracts the

" immune " lymphocytes into the salivary gland. These lymphocytes release

specific autoantibodies such as rheumatoid factor (RF) and antinuclear

antibodies;

antibodies are directed against proteins termed Sjögren's-associated

antigens

A and B (or SS-A and SS-B). These antibodies can enter the bloodstream and

are measured in the blood tests that we obtain to confirm the diagnosis of

Sjögren's syndrome. Additional T cells enter the gland and the damage is

perpetuated. Under normal circumstances, a class of cells called " suppressor

cells " turn off the inflammatory process. The continued destruction of the

gland

represents the abnormal balance of excessive action of T-helper cells and

deficient action of T-suppressor cells.

At the present time, no therapies are available to " cure " the underlying

causes of Sjögren's syndrome. Therefore, therapies are directed at improving

symptoms, preventing the complications (such as dental caries, oral candida,

or

corneal damage) and preventing disease progression. In patients with

autoimmune attack on the glands (i.e., Sjögren's syndrome), there may also

be

autoimmune attack on the joints (arthritis), muscles (myositis), thyroid

(thyroiditis), lung (pneumonitis), kidney (nephritis), or other tissues that

require

specific treatment. Also, there is a slightly increased risk of developing

lymphoma (a tumor of the lymph nodes), so careful attention is paid to

persistent swelling of these structures.

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There is a neuropathy component. Only toxins include routine restaurant

cleaning supplies. He drinks wine every day. Tumor is a possibility,

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Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 11:13 PM

To: texasems-l

Subject: Re: Now a real conundrum....

Some sort of neuropathy is at work here. What toxins has he been exposed

to? I suspect some kind of poisoning or a tumor. Looking further. What

would cause him to be insomniac and also dry eyed? An pituitary or adrenal

tumor?

But how would they explain his peripheral neuropathy? And I can't find

anything that links with necrophobia and turophobia. Good one, .

Gene G.

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Only OTC med is Advil for his wrist. There are no rodents in Café —it

is very clean.

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Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 11:36 PM

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Subject: Re: Now a real conundrum....

Has been doing any rodent control? Could he have low level strychnine

poisoning? Has he been taking any kind of OTC drugs for allergies, et

cetera? How has his urine output been? Is he " dry " all over, or just in his

eyes?

I still can't find anything that speaks to the necrophobia and turophobia.

Gene G.

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BP 108/60 mmHg, Pulse 62, Respirations 11, Oral Temp 97.9 F

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Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 11:32 PM

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Subject: Re: Now a real conundrum....

Can we know 's vital signs?

Gene G.

In a message dated 7/14/06 9:52:41 PM, bbledsoe (AT) earthlink (DOT)

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> Several years ago a family from New York moves to your town and opens the

> best Italian restaurant in town. The owners are friendly second-generation

> Italian-Americans and the food is as good as you can get in New York City.

> The restaurant is popular with EMS crews. One day, one of the two

co-owners

> of the restaurant comes to the table and asks questions about his brother

> . is 48-years-old and, approximately four months, began to have

> problems sleeping. Later he developed panic attacks and developed a morbid

> fear of dead human bodies and yellow cheese. Lately, has gotten

worse.

> He rarely sleeps and is now having increased panic attacks, vivid

> hallucinations, becomes easily agitated and sweats copiously at times.

> Interestingly, he does not produce tears any more and his eyes are very

dry

> and he is constantly scratching them or instilling Murine eye drops. He

also

> has diminished pain perception and has burned himself several times in the

> kitchen, His brother Luigi is very concerned about and wonders if

you

> know what might be wrong with him.

>

> What is wrong with ?

>

>

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An Industrial hygiene type question... was there a difference in the type of

pizza oven that was used (wood vs. gas vs. electric) in the previous location

and the new location?

" A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the

simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. " Proverbs 22:3

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That will come with heavy metal assay Gene ordered and sent to S & W.

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One other consideration would be is there a source of Mercury somwhere?

Tom

Now a real conundrum... .

Several years ago a family from New York moves to your town and opens the

best Italian restaurant in town. The owners are friendly second-generation

Italian-Americans and the food is as good as you can get in New York City.

The restaurant is popular with EMS crews. One day, one of the two co-owners

of the restaurant comes to the table and asks questions about his brother

. is 48-years-old and, approximately four months, began to have

problems sleeping. Later he developed panic attacks and developed a morbid

fear of dead human bodies and yellow cheese. Lately, has gotten worse.

He rarely sleeps and is now having increased panic attacks, vivid

hallucinations, becomes easily agitated and sweats copiously at times.

Interestingly, he does not produce tears any more and his eyes are very dry

and he is constantly scratching them or instilling Murine eye drops. He also

has diminished pain perception and has burned himself several times in the

kitchen, His brother Luigi is very concerned about and wonders if you

know what might be wrong with him.

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Gas oven

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Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 1:14 AM

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Subject: RE: Now a real conundrum....

An Industrial hygiene type question... was there a difference in the type of

pizza oven that was used (wood vs. gas vs. electric) in the previous

location and the new location?

" A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the

simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. " Proverbs 22:3

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Any mold present. Old building and such.

Bledsoe wrote: Several years ago a

family from New York moves to your town and opens the

best Italian restaurant in town. The owners are friendly second-generation

Italian-Americans and the food is as good as you can get in New York City.

The restaurant is popular with EMS crews. One day, one of the two co-owners

of the restaurant comes to the table and asks questions about his brother

. is 48-years-old and, approximately four months, began to have

problems sleeping. Later he developed panic attacks and developed a morbid

fear of dead human bodies and yellow cheese. Lately, has gotten worse.

He rarely sleeps and is now having increased panic attacks, vivid

hallucinations, becomes easily agitated and sweats copiously at times.

Interestingly, he does not produce tears any more and his eyes are very dry

and he is constantly scratching them or instilling Murine eye drops. He also

has diminished pain perception and has burned himself several times in the

kitchen, His brother Luigi is very concerned about and wonders if you

know what might be wrong with him.

What is wrong with ?

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--- In texasems-l , wegandy1938@... wrote (in response

to Hatfield's query ( " He married my ex-wife? " :

>

> Is there a medical diagnosis for that condition?

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No . . . that's an old wives' tale.

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What meds (Rx and OTC) is taking? What is his past med/surg hx? Did

anything change in his life 4 months ago when all this started?

Bledsoe wrote: Several years ago a

family from New York moves to your town and opens the

best Italian restaurant in town. The owners are friendly second-generation

Italian-Americans and the food is as good as you can get in New York City.

The restaurant is popular with EMS crews. One day, one of the two co-owners

of the restaurant comes to the table and asks questions about his brother

. is 48-years-old and, approximately four months, began to have

problems sleeping. Later he developed panic attacks and developed a morbid

fear of dead human bodies and yellow cheese. Lately, has gotten worse.

He rarely sleeps and is now having increased panic attacks, vivid

hallucinations, becomes easily agitated and sweats copiously at times.

Interestingly, he does not produce tears any more and his eyes are very dry

and he is constantly scratching them or instilling Murine eye drops. He also

has diminished pain perception and has burned himself several times in the

kitchen, His brother Luigi is very concerned about and wonders if you

know what might be wrong with him.

What is wrong with ?

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While it is possible that his symptoms and signs are of psychological origin,

I'm still looking for a neuropathy of some sort. So what are his

catecholamine levels? What is his tyrosine level? If he has a problem with

yellow

cheese, does he have a problem with red wine or processed meats like the stuff

he puts on his pizzas?

There's got to be some cranial nerve involvement here, olfactory and whatever

runs his lacrimal glands.

I am thinking that I would want to have see a physician immediately for

a workup for possible multiple sclerosis. Perhaps an MRI of his head?

You said he had no Rx and only took Aleve. Does he take any vitamin or

" health " supplements?

Anybody else thinking along these lines?

Gene G.

>

> Advil for his wrist. Gall bladder surgery (laparoscopic) 2 years ago.

> Cholesterol high. No Rx meds. No changes last 4 months. Business very

> good.

>

> _____

>

> From: texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem [mailto:texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem] On

> Behalf Of Lala

> Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 3:56 PM

> To: texasems-l@yahoogrotexasem

> Subject: Re: Now a real conundrum...

>

> What meds (Rx and OTC) is taking? What is his past med/surg hx? Did

> anything change in his life 4 months ago when all this started?

>

> Bledsoe <bbledsoe@earthlinkbb<mailto:bbledsoe%mailto:bbledmai> net>

> wrote: Several years ago a family from New York moves to your town and opens

> the

> best Italian restaurant in town. The owners are friendly second-generation

> Italian-Americans and the food is as good as you can get in New York City.

> The restaurant is popular with EMS crews. One day, one of the two co-owners

> of the restaurant comes to the table and asks questions about his brother

> . is 48-years-old and, approximately four months, began to have

> problems sleeping. Later he developed panic attacks and developed a morbid

> fear of dead human bodies and yellow cheese. Lately, has gotten worse.

> He rarely sleeps and is now having increased panic attacks, vivid

> hallucinations, becomes easily agitated and sweats copiously at times.

> Interestingly, he does not produce tears any more and his eyes are very dry

> and he is constantly scratching them or instilling Murine eye drops. He also

> has diminished pain perception and has burned himself several times in the

> kitchen, His brother Luigi is very concerned about and wonders if you

> know what might be wrong with him.

>

> What is wrong with ?

>

>

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No. and Luigi keep a very clean café. The building is old but clean.

No mold.

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From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On

Behalf Of Danny

Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 9:40 AM

To: texasems-l

Subject: Re: Now a real conundrum....

Any mold present. Old building and such.

Bledsoe <bbledsoe (AT) earthlink (DOT) <mailto:bbledsoe%40earthlink.net> net>

wrote: Several years ago a family from New York moves to your town and opens

the

best Italian restaurant in town. The owners are friendly second-generation

Italian-Americans and the food is as good as you can get in New York City.

The restaurant is popular with EMS crews. One day, one of the two co-owners

of the restaurant comes to the table and asks questions about his brother

. is 48-years-old and, approximately four months, began to have

problems sleeping. Later he developed panic attacks and developed a morbid

fear of dead human bodies and yellow cheese. Lately, has gotten worse.

He rarely sleeps and is now having increased panic attacks, vivid

hallucinations, becomes easily agitated and sweats copiously at times.

Interestingly, he does not produce tears any more and his eyes are very dry

and he is constantly scratching them or instilling Murine eye drops. He also

has diminished pain perception and has burned himself several times in the

kitchen, His brother Luigi is very concerned about and wonders if you

know what might be wrong with him.

What is wrong with ?

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Advil for his wrist. Gall bladder surgery (laparoscopic) 2 years ago.

Cholesterol high. No Rx meds. No changes last 4 months. Business very

good.

_____

From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On

Behalf Of Lala

Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 3:56 PM

To: texasems-l

Subject: Re: Now a real conundrum....

What meds (Rx and OTC) is taking? What is his past med/surg hx? Did

anything change in his life 4 months ago when all this started?

Bledsoe <bbledsoe (AT) earthlink (DOT) <mailto:bbledsoe%40earthlink.net> net>

wrote: Several years ago a family from New York moves to your town and opens

the

best Italian restaurant in town. The owners are friendly second-generation

Italian-Americans and the food is as good as you can get in New York City.

The restaurant is popular with EMS crews. One day, one of the two co-owners

of the restaurant comes to the table and asks questions about his brother

. is 48-years-old and, approximately four months, began to have

problems sleeping. Later he developed panic attacks and developed a morbid

fear of dead human bodies and yellow cheese. Lately, has gotten worse.

He rarely sleeps and is now having increased panic attacks, vivid

hallucinations, becomes easily agitated and sweats copiously at times.

Interestingly, he does not produce tears any more and his eyes are very dry

and he is constantly scratching them or instilling Murine eye drops. He also

has diminished pain perception and has burned himself several times in the

kitchen, His brother Luigi is very concerned about and wonders if you

know what might be wrong with him.

What is wrong with ?

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