Guest guest Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 I'd be very interested in the opinions of our physicians about this? Also, have any of us made a response to these settings? -Wes Ogilvie Austin TX 'McClinics' serve up fast health care But some doctors worry the trend is a prescription for trouble. By _ Ann Roser_ (http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/06/mailto:maroser@stat\ esman.com) AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF Monday, June 12, 2006 ROUND ROCK — More Americans want their health care delivered fast, like their burgers, and clinics that promise quick care are popping up across the country, including one inside Round Rock's H-E-B plus that has been operating for more than three months. Retail clinics in grocery stores, pharmacies and Wal-Marts tap into the " big box " phenomenon that many consumers can't resist: one-stop shopping at a chain store that's fast, affordable and convenient. No appointment is necessary. There's no insurance paperwork and, often, no waiting. The RediClinic in the H-E-B Plus on East Palm Valley Boulevard is staffed by a nurse practitioner who treats about 30 relatively simple conditions such as respiratory ailments, rashes, digestive problems and urinary tract infections. The cost is $45. Lab work and screenings cost extra. People with more serious or chronic conditions are referred to a doctor or the emergency room. When the nurse writes a prescription, many patients walk only a few steps to the H-E-B pharmacy to fill it. But some family practice physicians and doctors' organizations worry that retail health care has a downside. They're concerned about patients misunderstanding the care they're getting. They also worry about the potential for mistakes and the quality of supervision. " It's not a healthy trend, " said Dr. Larry Fields of Ashland, Ky., president of the American Academy of Family Physicians. " What people need is a medical home where all of their medical history resides. Anything that takes away from that eventually leads to problems. " RediClinic officials say the goal is to get more patients into a primary care home and to be a stop-gap measure for the uninsured and the time-constrained. About half of the people who use RediClinics are uninsured and don't have a regular doctor, they said. " We're not trying to replace any part of the health care system. We're trying to complement it, " said Web Golinkin, CEO of InterFit Health of Houston, the parent of RediClinics. InterFit's biggest investor is Revolution Health Group, created by AOL co-founder Steve Case. " In the ideal world, it would be great if everybody had a physician and could get in on a timely basis, " Golinkin said, " but that's just not happening right now. " a Barron, 35, of Pflugerville, who visited the RediClinic on Tuesday with her children, said she was thrilled to have the retail option. She moved with her family from Southern California a month ago and is waiting for her husband's health insurance to kick in. Her 7-year-old daughter, , said a rash on her thumb was hurting. Barron wasn't sure how to handle it, and the pediatrician she plans to use told Barron a visit would cost $100. Barron said the RediClinic nurse wasn't sure what was wrong with but recommended an over-the-counter cream. " We're going to try some hydrocortisone, " Barron said. " It makes me feel better " to know what to do. Barron received a $5 discount coupon for a future visit. Every customer gets one, to encourage a return. Those who go online and fill out a questionnaire get a $10 coupon. Analysts predict the retail clinic trend is here to stay. Consumers are demanding convenience, and the number of uninsured people continues to climb. The clinics plan to expand quickly. RediClinic, which has 10 other locations — including five in the Houston area and one in San — has plans for 75 more clinics in the next 12 months and 500 by 2009, company officials said. RediClinic's larger cousin, MinuteClinic, has 81 clinics in nine states and plans to triple that by year's end. Insured patients who use RediClinic can try to get reimbursed on their own, but Round Rock clinic manager Pamela Garner-, a nurse practitioner, said she didn't know how often that works. H-E-B employees and their families, who she said have turned out to be good users of the clinic, get a $25 discount if they have insurance from the company's carrier, which Garner- said doesn't cover clinic care. RediClinic is negotiating with several big insurers about submitting claims for patients and hopes to have agreements within six months, Golinkin said. The goal is to capture people who walk off because their co-payments for doctor visits are less than $45. Other retail clinics are doing the same thing, though some critics say that adding insurance to the mix will inevitably drive up the clinics' costs. Austin-based health care consultant Preston Gee said the clinics are the latest examples of medical care on demand. " In the larger scope of things, we're seeing a migration away from the traditional medical sites, the hospital campus and the doctor's office, " said Gee, senior managing director at Phase 2 Consulting in Austin, a health care management and economic consulting firm. The proliferation of same-day surgery centers, imaging centers and, to some extent, mobile vans that provide screenings are examples of that trend, said Gee, a former executive with St. 's HealthCare. He expects the retail clinics to have more staying power than the free-standing urgent care centers staffed by doctors, with expensive equipment and high overhead costs. Retail clinics have much lower overhead: They're staffed by nurse practitioners (highly trained nurses who provide care and write prescriptions under a doctor's supervision), the equipment is less costly, and they're inside stores. " We used to think that there was inherent value in the venue " of a hospital or doctor's office, Gee said. " In this particular component, there's value in the convenience. There's value in accessibility. There's value in cost. We're a society very interested in those kinds of things. " He thinks competition in health care can be good. Fields, with the American Academy of Family Physicians, doesn't think the clinics compete with doctors and said many of the conditions the clinics treat would get better if left alone. Even so, he advises primary care physicians to re-examine how they take care of patients. More of them should consider working through the lunch hour, extending office hours into evenings and weekends and accommodating patients who need same-day appointments, he said. The Texas Medical Association said its main concern is for patient safety. It adopted a policy last month to monitor the quality, safety, health outcomes and coordination of care delivered at the retail clinics. Dr. Strate, a Wichita Falls pathologist who is chairwoman of the medical association's panel that developed the policy, said patients who don't have a primary care doctor are at risk of thinking they are getting more comprehensive care than they're receiving. She worries that patients with chronic problems will try to get primary care at the clinics instead of seeking the watchful care of a regular doctor. Garner- said she doesn't treat chronic conditions, such as diabetes. Although she might do a blood test for a diabetic interested in getting a sugar level, those patients are referred to doctors, she said. Dr. ph Annis, an Austin anesthesiologist and chairman of an American Medical Association council that studied the retail clinics for a report due out this month, said his concern is that nurses might be inadequately supervised by physicians. Representatives of the retail industry said the clinics provide limited services under strict controls. Dr. Steve Berkowitz, chief medical officer for St. 's HealthCare, said he is not worried about the quality of care or supervision. The two nurse practitioners at the RediClinic, along with a certified medical technician, are overseen by emergency room doctors who practice at Round Rock Medical Center, operated by St. 's. By Texas law, the doctors are on site 20 percent of the time. They review charts on site and consult with the nurses by phone. The Round Rock clinic, which opened in February, sees a handful of patients a day. Some days it doesn't see any patients, but Garner- said she expects traffic to pick up as more people hear of the clinic. " It's feast or famine, " she said of the flow at the clinic, which is open from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. Monday through Friday, 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. Saturday and noon to 5 p.m. Sunday. More than half of the patients are store shoppers who happen by, she said. Some are interested only in screenings. Jim Grooms, 54, of Round Rock asked technician Ponch how much a liver function test costs. Grooms could not find the price in a clinic brochure, which was in Spanish only. , who said English-language brochures were on order, outlined the blood tests, totaling $115. Grooms, who lacks health insurance, was happy with the price. " This would cost $200-plus at my doctor's office, " he estimated. He would have no complaints, he added, if the clinic had a brochure he could read. 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Guest guest Posted June 12, 2006 Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 I work PRN for a form of this type of clinic. It is A RV/Bus that has a schedule each Mo. that it goes and sets up and See's patients. It is true that this is sometimes the only medical care these people ever see and it is a big challenge sometimes with the language barrier. We have a Nurse Practitioner and a Paramedic that staff the bus and a Medical Director that reviews the protocols and treatments. Many of the patients we see are illegal immigrant's and don't go to a traditional clinic for fear of being sent back to where ever they are from. and we don't always speak the same language as they do. We do try our best and when possible we have a translator explain treatments and doses. We have a few times had to call the local ambulance for transport for cases that it was just not safe for us to trust the patient to go on there own, we have never hesitated to call 911 guess it is the Paramedics in us. We also in the fall give flue shots and we are also working with the state and give low cost Immunization's to children. I think we have a pretty good thing going, it works well for quite a few patients that would not otherwise seek medical care. ,, LP ExLngHrn@... wrote: I'd be very interested in the opinions of our physicians about this? Also, have any of us made a response to these settings? -Wes Ogilvie Austin TX 'McClinics' serve up fast health care But some doctors worry the trend is a prescription for trouble. By _ Ann Roser_ (http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/06/mailto:maroser@stat\ esman.com) AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF Monday, June 12, 2006 ROUND ROCK — More Americans want their health care delivered fast, like their burgers, and clinics that promise quick care are popping up across the country, including one inside Round Rock's H-E-B plus that has been operating for more than three months. Retail clinics in grocery stores, pharmacies and Wal-Marts tap into the " big box " phenomenon that many consumers can't resist: one-stop shopping at a chain store that's fast, affordable and convenient. No appointment is necessary. There's no insurance paperwork and, often, no waiting. The RediClinic in the H-E-B Plus on East Palm Valley Boulevard is staffed by a nurse practitioner who treats about 30 relatively simple conditions such as respiratory ailments, rashes, digestive problems and urinary tract infections. The cost is $45. Lab work and screenings cost extra. People with more serious or chronic conditions are referred to a doctor or the emergency room. When the nurse writes a prescription, many patients walk only a few steps to the H-E-B pharmacy to fill it. But some family practice physicians and doctors' organizations worry that retail health care has a downside. They're concerned about patients misunderstanding the care they're getting. They also worry about the potential for mistakes and the quality of supervision. " It's not a healthy trend, " said Dr. Larry Fields of Ashland, Ky., president of the American Academy of Family Physicians. " What people need is a medical home where all of their medical history resides. Anything that takes away from that eventually leads to problems. " RediClinic officials say the goal is to get more patients into a primary care home and to be a stop-gap measure for the uninsured and the time-constrained. About half of the people who use RediClinics are uninsured and don't have a regular doctor, they said. " We're not trying to replace any part of the health care system. We're trying to complement it, " said Web Golinkin, CEO of InterFit Health of Houston, the parent of RediClinics. InterFit's biggest investor is Revolution Health Group, created by AOL co-founder Steve Case. " In the ideal world, it would be great if everybody had a physician and could get in on a timely basis, " Golinkin said, " but that's just not happening right now. " a Barron, 35, of Pflugerville, who visited the RediClinic on Tuesday with her children, said she was thrilled to have the retail option. She moved with her family from Southern California a month ago and is waiting for her husband's health insurance to kick in. Her 7-year-old daughter, , said a rash on her thumb was hurting. Barron wasn't sure how to handle it, and the pediatrician she plans to use told Barron a visit would cost $100. Barron said the RediClinic nurse wasn't sure what was wrong with but recommended an over-the-counter cream. " We're going to try some hydrocortisone, " Barron said. " It makes me feel better " to know what to do. Barron received a $5 discount coupon for a future visit. Every customer gets one, to encourage a return. Those who go online and fill out a questionnaire get a $10 coupon. Analysts predict the retail clinic trend is here to stay. Consumers are demanding convenience, and the number of uninsured people continues to climb. The clinics plan to expand quickly. RediClinic, which has 10 other locations — including five in the Houston area and one in San — has plans for 75 more clinics in the next 12 months and 500 by 2009, company officials said. RediClinic's larger cousin, MinuteClinic, has 81 clinics in nine states and plans to triple that by year's end. Insured patients who use RediClinic can try to get reimbursed on their own, but Round Rock clinic manager Pamela Garner-, a nurse practitioner, said she didn't know how often that works. H-E-B employees and their families, who she said have turned out to be good users of the clinic, get a $25 discount if they have insurance from the company's carrier, which Garner- said doesn't cover clinic care. RediClinic is negotiating with several big insurers about submitting claims for patients and hopes to have agreements within six months, Golinkin said. The goal is to capture people who walk off because their co-payments for doctor visits are less than $45. Other retail clinics are doing the same thing, though some critics say that adding insurance to the mix will inevitably drive up the clinics' costs. Austin-based health care consultant Preston Gee said the clinics are the latest examples of medical care on demand. " In the larger scope of things, we're seeing a migration away from the traditional medical sites, the hospital campus and the doctor's office, " said Gee, senior managing director at Phase 2 Consulting in Austin, a health care management and economic consulting firm. The proliferation of same-day surgery centers, imaging centers and, to some extent, mobile vans that provide screenings are examples of that trend, said Gee, a former executive with St. 's HealthCare. He expects the retail clinics to have more staying power than the free-standing urgent care centers staffed by doctors, with expensive equipment and high overhead costs. Retail clinics have much lower overhead: They're staffed by nurse practitioners (highly trained nurses who provide care and write prescriptions under a doctor's supervision), the equipment is less costly, and they're inside stores. " We used to think that there was inherent value in the venue " of a hospital or doctor's office, Gee said. " In this particular component, there's value in the convenience. There's value in accessibility. There's value in cost. We're a society very interested in those kinds of things. " He thinks competition in health care can be good. Fields, with the American Academy of Family Physicians, doesn't think the clinics compete with doctors and said many of the conditions the clinics treat would get better if left alone. Even so, he advises primary care physicians to re-examine how they take care of patients. More of them should consider working through the lunch hour, extending office hours into evenings and weekends and accommodating patients who need same-day appointments, he said. The Texas Medical Association said its main concern is for patient safety. It adopted a policy last month to monitor the quality, safety, health outcomes and coordination of care delivered at the retail clinics. Dr. Strate, a Wichita Falls pathologist who is chairwoman of the medical association's panel that developed the policy, said patients who don't have a primary care doctor are at risk of thinking they are getting more comprehensive care than they're receiving. She worries that patients with chronic problems will try to get primary care at the clinics instead of seeking the watchful care of a regular doctor. Garner- said she doesn't treat chronic conditions, such as diabetes. Although she might do a blood test for a diabetic interested in getting a sugar level, those patients are referred to doctors, she said. Dr. ph Annis, an Austin anesthesiologist and chairman of an American Medical Association council that studied the retail clinics for a report due out this month, said his concern is that nurses might be inadequately supervised by physicians. Representatives of the retail industry said the clinics provide limited services under strict controls. Dr. Steve Berkowitz, chief medical officer for St. 's HealthCare, said he is not worried about the quality of care or supervision. The two nurse practitioners at the RediClinic, along with a certified medical technician, are overseen by emergency room doctors who practice at Round Rock Medical Center, operated by St. 's. By Texas law, the doctors are on site 20 percent of the time. They review charts on site and consult with the nurses by phone. The Round Rock clinic, which opened in February, sees a handful of patients a day. Some days it doesn't see any patients, but Garner- said she expects traffic to pick up as more people hear of the clinic. " It's feast or famine, " she said of the flow at the clinic, which is open from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. Monday through Friday, 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. Saturday and noon to 5 p.m. Sunday. More than half of the patients are store shoppers who happen by, she said. Some are interested only in screenings. Jim Grooms, 54, of Round Rock asked technician Ponch how much a liver function test costs. Grooms could not find the price in a clinic brochure, which was in Spanish only. , who said English-language brochures were on order, outlined the blood tests, totaling $115. Grooms, who lacks health insurance, was happy with the price. " This would cost $200-plus at my doctor's office, " he estimated. He would have no complaints, he added, if the clinic had a brochure he could read. 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