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Now that Jack is home I have had to take him out a little to go to the doctors

and get medicine etc. I try not to go anywhere because of RSV. It is running

wild here! Thankfully he got his Synergist vaccine today. Anyway, on several

occasions people have made comments about Jack's Charge ear. He has one

" normal " ear and one charge ear that really sticks out. These people have said

things like " it's nothing plastic surgery can't fix " and " you know, they

reconstruct ears all the time " . Being new to this whole thing I haven't had

time to think about how to respond to a comment like this. How can people be so

rude? I believe that Jack's ear is a part of who he is and that there is

nothing wrong with it! If someday Jack decides he wants to have something done

then I will fully support him but I hope to raise him to be proud of who he is

and accept the beautiful gifts that God has given him. Right now I just don't

know how to respond to these people. I want to just

yell and ask what is wrong with them but I'm not that kind of person. Does

anyone have any good one liners that I can steal? I want to be polite but still

get the message across that my baby is perfect in my eyes.

Another question, within the CHARGE acronym R stands for retardation of growth

and development. Is this ever officially diagnosed? Jack is almost 4 months

old and is 7 pounds 12 ounces and doesn't do anything a " normal " 4 month old

baby would do. I would say that he has the R but no doctor has ever told us

that. So, should we include the R or not? I just never know.

Mom to Jack, almost 4 months with CHARGE

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I happen to agree with you that Jack is perfect just as he is created.

In my opinion, I would think that the people are trying to let you know they

aren't bothered by the ear. I don't think they are necessarily rude, but I

didn't hear the tone or intent of their words. You certainly know best about

that. Some people do interject comments whether they are welcome or not. I

suspect they just didn't quite know what to say and were trying to encourage you

not to be discouraged. But, you are all fine and good with Jack as he is, so

their comments were not necessary.

I think my approach would be to use some of the words you just mentioned

yourself. I would look the person in the eye, smile gently, and say softly or

(maybe loudly) depending on the circumstance: " My baby is completely perfect in

my eyes " . Or, " My baby is completely perfect in God's eyes " .

That's it. I would feel good having let them know that the ear is not an issue

that needs discussing. I think you came up with REALLY excellent words. Then I

would go on my way knowing I had said exactly what needed to be said.

Best to you and your sweet Jack.

Mom to Kendra, CHARGE, and Camille

Rude Comments

Now that Jack is home I have had to take him out a little to go to the doctors

and get medicine etc. I try not to go anywhere because of RSV. It is running

wild here! Thankfully he got his Synergist vaccine today. Anyway, on several

occasions people have made comments about Jack's Charge ear. He has one " normal "

ear and one charge ear that really sticks out. These people have said things

like " it's nothing plastic surgery can't fix " and " you know, they reconstruct

ears all the time " . Being new to this whole thing I haven't had time to think

about how to respond to a comment like this. How can people be so rude? I

believe that Jack's ear is a part of who he is and that there is nothing wrong

with it! If someday Jack decides he wants to have something done then I will

fully support him but I hope to raise him to be proud of who he is and accept

the beautiful gifts that God has given him. Right now I just don't know how to

respond to these people. I want to just

yell and ask what is wrong with them but I'm not that kind of person. Does

anyone have any good one liners that I can steal? I want to be polite but still

get the message across that my baby is perfect in my eyes.

Another question, within the CHARGE acronym R stands for retardation of growth

and development. Is this ever officially diagnosed? Jack is almost 4 months old

and is 7 pounds 12 ounces and doesn't do anything a " normal " 4 month old baby

would do. I would say that he has the R but no doctor has ever told us that. So,

should we include the R or not? I just never know.

Mom to Jack, almost 4 months with CHARGE

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Hi ,

I was going to say everything said so I'll just say ditto!

Janay

Rasha's Mom

>

> ,

>

> I happen to agree with you that Jack is perfect just as he is

created.

>

> In my opinion, I would think that the people are trying to let you

know they aren't bothered by the ear. I don't think they are

necessarily rude, but I didn't hear the tone or intent of their

words. You certainly know best about that. Some people do

interject comments whether they are welcome or not. I suspect they

just didn't quite know what to say and were trying to encourage you

not to be discouraged. But, you are all fine and good with Jack as

he is, so their comments were not necessary.

>

> I think my approach would be to use some of the words you just

mentioned yourself. I would look the person in the eye, smile

gently, and say softly or (maybe loudly) depending on the

circumstance: " My baby is completely perfect in my eyes " . Or, " My

baby is completely perfect in God's eyes " .

>

> That's it. I would feel good having let them know that the ear is

not an issue that needs discussing. I think you came up with REALLY

excellent words. Then I would go on my way knowing I had said

exactly what needed to be said.

>

> Best to you and your sweet Jack.

>

>

> Mom to Kendra, CHARGE, and Camille

> Rude Comments

>

>

> Now that Jack is home I have had to take him out a little to go

to the doctors and get medicine etc. I try not to go anywhere

because of RSV. It is running wild here! Thankfully he got his

Synergist vaccine today. Anyway, on several occasions people have

made comments about Jack's Charge ear. He has one " normal " ear and

one charge ear that really sticks out. These people have said things

like " it's nothing plastic surgery can't fix " and " you know, they

reconstruct ears all the time " . Being new to this whole thing I

haven't had time to think about how to respond to a comment like

this. How can people be so rude? I believe that Jack's ear is a part

of who he is and that there is nothing wrong with it! If someday

Jack decides he wants to have something done then I will fully

support him but I hope to raise him to be proud of who he is and

accept the beautiful gifts that God has given him. Right now I just

don't know how to respond to these people. I want to just

> yell and ask what is wrong with them but I'm not that kind of

person. Does anyone have any good one liners that I can steal? I

want to be polite but still get the message across that my baby is

perfect in my eyes.

>

> Another question, within the CHARGE acronym R stands for

retardation of growth and development. Is this ever officially

diagnosed? Jack is almost 4 months old and is 7 pounds 12 ounces and

doesn't do anything a " normal " 4 month old baby would do. I would

say that he has the R but no doctor has ever told us that. So,

should we include the R or not? I just never know.

>

>

> Mom to Jack, almost 4 months with CHARGE

>

> __________________________________________________

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Hi ,

I don't know if you feel like taking the time to give this explanation, but

even if you requested plastic surgery for Jack's ear at this time--if it is

strictly for cosmetic reasons--I think the Drs would try to defer it as long as

possible. If there are functional issues involved--like there is absolutely no

way it will hold a hearing aide, and that's the side that needs it--the

considerations are different.

I tend to not respond back to rudeness with a " zinger " --mostly because I don't

think fast enough, but also I don't believe it accomplishes anything positive.

Most of the time, the person making this type of comment doesn't have any

malicious intent--they are just ignorant. And an ignorant moment is a perfect

opportunity to provide a little education. You never know--your newly educated

aquantance might spread the word and head off similar comments from others...

Although it's true that a baby's head is the part of the body closest to it's

adult size...it's still growing. Future growth is a huge concern for any type

of surgery, but especially a cosmetic one. If they repair his ear to look

" right " now, once he is bigger it may not have the proper proportions...this may

require additional surgery (and I would imagine this is like most surgeries--it

will look best if they can limit the number of procedures, and scar tissue

formation).

Evan has a " bendy " ear that sticks out, and a more " normal " looking ear. We

are lucky that the " bendy ear " is strong enough to hold his hearing aide. I

remember when he was first born, his strange looking little ears bothered me

immensely--I worried that would be the first thing people would see. But now

they are just part of Evan, and I almost have a hard time imagining him without

his " bendy ear. " I feel kind of silly sharing this (although if anyone is going

to understand, it's fellow CHARGE parents!), but one of the places Evan gets

lots of kisses is behind his " bendy ear " --he gives his half-smile and tilts his

head to that side as if he's saying " Come on Mom--that tickles! " I'm going to

miss that someday!

I want to wait as long as we can to do any plastic surgery--for the same

reasons you do. Partly because I want him to know that we love him

unconditionally--regardless of his ears! And partly because I want the plastic

surgery to be something he actively participates in deciding--we've had enough

surgeries where his father and I have had to have " done to " him.

As far as the " R " --Jack qualifies. I think pretty much every CHARGE kiddo

does.

(mom to Evan, ChaRG and E--proudly, nearly 18 months old now)

Waggoner wrote:

Now that Jack is home I have had to take him out a little to go to the

doctors and get medicine etc. I try not to go anywhere because of RSV. It is

running wild here! Thankfully he got his Synergist vaccine today. Anyway, on

several occasions people have made comments about Jack's Charge ear. He has one

" normal " ear and one charge ear that really sticks out. These people have said

things like " it's nothing plastic surgery can't fix " and " you know, they

reconstruct ears all the time " . Being new to this whole thing I haven't had time

to think about how to respond to a comment like this. How can people be so rude?

I believe that Jack's ear is a part of who he is and that there is nothing wrong

with it! If someday Jack decides he wants to have something done then I will

fully support him but I hope to raise him to be proud of who he is and accept

the beautiful gifts that God has given him. Right now I just don't know how to

respond to these people. I want to just

yell and ask what is wrong with them but I'm not that kind of person. Does

anyone have any good one liners that I can steal? I want to be polite but still

get the message across that my baby is perfect in my eyes.

Another question, within the CHARGE acronym R stands for retardation of growth

and development. Is this ever officially diagnosed? Jack is almost 4 months old

and is 7 pounds 12 ounces and doesn't do anything a " normal " 4 month old baby

would do. I would say that he has the R but no doctor has ever told us that. So,

should we include the R or not? I just never know.

Mom to Jack, almost 4 months with CHARGE

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" I believe that Jack's ear is a part of who he is and that there is nothing

wrong with it! If someday Jack decides he wants to have something done then I

will fully support him but I hope to raise him to be proud of who he is and

accept the beautiful gifts that God has given him. "

Please keep this belief! That is what we believe as well. I am glad to hear

that you accept your child a 100% and that is how you will learn to deal with

these rude comments. Remember people are ignorant to CHARGE and if they have

never had to deal with this, they don't know how to respond.

I tell people just that, God made him perfect and I don't see why I would change

my beautiful blessing!

Keep your chin up and you will do GREAT!

, Randy & Garland Goodwin

---- Waggoner wrote:

=============

Now that Jack is home I have had to take him out a little to go to the doctors

and get medicine etc. I try not to go anywhere because of RSV. It is running

wild here! Thankfully he got his Synergist vaccine today. Anyway, on several

occasions people have made comments about Jack's Charge ear. He has one

" normal " ear and one charge ear that really sticks out. These people have said

things like " it's nothing plastic surgery can't fix " and " you know, they

reconstruct ears all the time " . Being new to this whole thing I haven't had

time to think about how to respond to a comment like this. How can people be so

rude? I believe that Jack's ear is a part of who he is and that there is

nothing wrong with it! If someday Jack decides he wants to have something done

then I will fully support him but I hope to raise him to be proud of who he is

and accept the beautiful gifts that God has given him. Right now I just don't

know how to respond to these people. I want to just

yell and ask what is wrong with them but I'm not that kind of person. Does

anyone have any good one liners that I can steal? I want to be polite but still

get the message across that my baby is perfect in my eyes.

Another question, within the CHARGE acronym R stands for retardation of growth

and development. Is this ever officially diagnosed? Jack is almost 4 months

old and is 7 pounds 12 ounces and doesn't do anything a " normal " 4 month old

baby would do. I would say that he has the R but no doctor has ever told us

that. So, should we include the R or not? I just never know.

Mom to Jack, almost 4 months with CHARGE

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Some of the 'old' folks here know this story but it hopefully will give you an

idea how some CHARGE kids handle the comments. was about 9yo when he went

to a crainial-facial clinic appt, when it came to the ENT guys one resident said

he HAD to have his ear fixed " NOW " ( he has one 'normal' and one CHARGE ear) I

told him that the plastics guy had said to wait til he was fully grown for the

effect to be the best. The guy just kept going on and on about it.. So finally

he talks straight to and says " Don't you want to look like the other

kids? " looks the guy up and down and says " It doesn't bother me why does

it bother you? " The others in the room that had known since birth cracked

up.. the guy looked soooooo embarassed. is so OK with his looks and

most everything that goes one with CHARGE that sometimes I just forget he has

it.

It will be OK and believe me Jake and your family will learn to handle it, from

the intrigued and wanting to learn type and the really obnoxious and rude types.

Casey

Mom to Dawn 28 HH, ADD, Bi-polar, Ken 17 ADD, Dysgraphic and 15 in three

weeks CHARGE

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casey liek that y did it bother him maybe he thought was some infection

>

> ,

>

> Some of the 'old' folks here know this story but it hopefully will give

> you an idea how some CHARGE kids handle the comments. was about 9yo

> when he went to a crainial-facial clinic appt, when it came to the ENT guys

> one resident said he HAD to have his ear fixed " NOW " ( he has one 'normal'

> and one CHARGE ear) I told him that the plastics guy had said to wait til he

> was fully grown for the effect to be the best. The guy just kept going on

> and on about it.. So finally he talks straight to and says " Don't you

> want to look like the other kids? " looks the guy up and down and says

> " It doesn't bother me why does it bother you? " The others in the room that

> had known since birth cracked up.. the guy looked soooooo embarassed.

> is so OK with his looks and most everything that goes one with CHARGE

> that sometimes I just forget he has it.

>

> It will be OK and believe me Jake and your family will learn to handle it,

> from the intrigued and wanting to learn type and the really obnoxious and

> rude types.

>

> Casey

> Mom to Dawn 28 HH, ADD, Bi-polar, Ken 17 ADD, Dysgraphic and 15 in

> three weeks CHARGE

>

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The " R " in CHARGE is a problem. In fact, there are a number of

professionals who wish the acronym had never been developed. Back when

Hall first noticed that a number of anomalies seemed to being

appearing together with a frequency greater than chance, and went back

through his files, the cases that were identified were what you might

call " severe " CHARGE. These were the obvious cases. Today we recognize

that the variability in CHARGE is huge. I heard about a woman with the

CHARGE gene who only has balance difficulties - nothing more. The

problem with the " R " when it referred to both growth and developmental

issues is that it lowered expectations for kids with CHARGE. I heard

many times that professionals told parents " your child will be mentally

retarded. " In fact, this is not necessarily the case. I tell people to

expect low normal intelligence, which translates into an IQ range of

70-85. It may well be much higher or it could, as in the case of my own

son, be much lower. There are some really smart kids with CHARGE, as

represented by those who are on this list. So never presume cognitive

impairment, although it is a possibility. Slow development of normal

milestones is not necessarily due to low IQ. Our kids are often

hypotonic, they have balance difficulties, they have sensory impairments

- all of these things can lead to delays in making developmental motor

and other milestones. Of course your child is who he or she is. That

will play out in time. In the meantime, keep doing what you can to

provide appropriate services and enjoy your child.

Tim Hartshorne

S. Hartshorne

Professor of Psychology

Sloan Hall 215

Central Michigan University

Mount Pleasant, MI 48859

(989)774-6479 office

(989)774-2553 fax

tim.hartshorne@...

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Hi, :

My son with CHARGE is 11 years old, so I've had plenty of time to

come up with one-liners. Plus, my family says that coming up with " in-

your-face " one-liners is my rare talent! So here goes... hope I don't

offend. Please just take these lightly...or if you just want to

imagine these responses but not really say them, they might give you

a private giggle...

To people who suggest that Jack's ear can be fixed, you might say:

1) Yes, if he lives through another open-heart surgery, the upcoming

subaortic stenosis repair, we might look into that. (wow them with

big words)

2) Well, they gave us a choice between heart surgery to save his

life, or plastic surgery to make him pretty - we chose life.

3) What are you talking about? We had that ear made special!! It's

the latest fad!!

4) Yes, but you see, we are auditioning him for the Lord of the Rings.

5) Well, we are of the mindset that God doesn't make mistakes. What

do you think?

6) Do you have any idea how many times I've heard that? Believe me,

we have plenty of other things to worry about right now.

7) We are suffering enough without comments like that, thank you.

8) No speaka English.

9) (act like you had not noticed) What??? Oh, my God!! Honey, what

happened to your ear?? Someone call 911, quick!!!!

10) (flick your child's ear and say, very casually) Well, you get

what you get and you don't throw a fit.

11) I tell him all the time if he keeps telling lies his ear will

continue to grow out like that, but he just doesn't listen.

12) You know, he can hear you.

13) (or if he can't hear, pretend that you can't either and start

signing to the person, pointing to their nose and making gestures

that imply how big it is, start laughing uproariously, then walk away

shaking your head)

14) Oh, are we pointing out each other's flaws now?

15) You know they also have surgeries available to fix your face.

16) Yes, he's a rather funny-looking little guy. I'm thinking of

trading him in for a different model? You interested?

Hope these inspire you <smile>... and remember, you are NOT alone!

Rosie

Mom to Neal (CHARGE-11yrs) and -marie (6 years)

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It took me a while to start using the R. No doctor has ever put the R

in there. When my son Neal was very young (he's now 11 years), I was

very defensive about the R, maintaining that he was NOT retarded. At

the time, it was thought more that it had to do with mental

retardation. But, he is pretty significantly developmentally delayed,

and that has become more obvious as he's gotten older. Academically,

he's doing pretty well catching up, but socially and emotionally,

he's way behind his 6-year old sister.

Rosie

>

> Now that Jack is home I have had to take him out a little to go to

the doctors and get medicine etc. I try not to go anywhere because

of RSV. It is running wild here! Thankfully he got his Synergist

vaccine today. Anyway, on several occasions people have made

comments about Jack's Charge ear. He has one " normal " ear and one

charge ear that really sticks out. These people have said things

like " it's nothing plastic surgery can't fix " and " you know, they

reconstruct ears all the time " . Being new to this whole thing I

haven't had time to think about how to respond to a comment like

this. How can people be so rude? I believe that Jack's ear is a

part of who he is and that there is nothing wrong with it! If

someday Jack decides he wants to have something done then I will

fully support him but I hope to raise him to be proud of who he is

and accept the beautiful gifts that God has given him. Right now I

just don't know how to respond to these people. I want to just

> yell and ask what is wrong with them but I'm not that kind of

person. Does anyone have any good one liners that I can steal? I

want to be polite but still get the message across that my baby is

perfect in my eyes.

>

> Another question, within the CHARGE acronym R stands for

retardation of growth and development. Is this ever officially

diagnosed? Jack is almost 4 months old and is 7 pounds 12 ounces and

doesn't do anything a " normal " 4 month old baby would do. I would

say that he has the R but no doctor has ever told us that. So,

should we include the R or not? I just never know.

>

>

> Mom to Jack, almost 4 months with CHARGE

>

>

>

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>

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Eva also has one " normal " ear and one CHARGE ear. I happen to love

her little CHARGE ear and I think its what make her, her. We do have

a plastics doctor who has been watching her palete and her jaw but

he did mention that he could fix her ear and make it more " normal "

when she is about 6 or 7. But I dont know if i really want to do

that. Her ear is what makes her Eva, the only way I would concider

it is if it will help her with her aid or glasses in anyway. But

right now its all ok. When people say anything about her ear I take

that as my que to tell them about CHARGE and I always smile about

it, I think she was given to me the way she was to help get more

info out there about CHARGE and other special needs.

As for the retarded growth, Eva is 21 months old and is only 19lbs

8oz and 29 1/2 inches long. She doesnt sit, stand, crawl, walk or do

much of anything an child her age would do. But since her open heart

surgery last April I have seen a huge amount of energy coming from

her and I think this is the year we since some great milestones from

her. Is Jack in a therapy program yet? If not I would look into it,

Eva's 0-3 year program has helped so much and she has done so much

since they started with her.

Hang in there!!

Crystal mom to (11), (3), and Eva (21 month old CHARGEr)

wife to Dan in Illinois

>

> Now that Jack is home I have had to take him out a little to go to

the doctors and get medicine etc. I try not to go anywhere because

of RSV. It is running wild here! Thankfully he got his Synergist

vaccine today. Anyway, on several occasions people have made

comments about Jack's Charge ear. He has one " normal " ear and one

charge ear that really sticks out. These people have said things

like " it's nothing plastic surgery can't fix " and " you know, they

reconstruct ears all the time " . Being new to this whole thing I

haven't had time to think about how to respond to a comment like

this. How can people be so rude? I believe that Jack's ear is a

part of who he is and that there is nothing wrong with it! If

someday Jack decides he wants to have something done then I will

fully support him but I hope to raise him to be proud of who he is

and accept the beautiful gifts that God has given him. Right now I

just don't know how to respond to these people. I want to just

> yell and ask what is wrong with them but I'm not that kind of

person. Does anyone have any good one liners that I can steal? I

want to be polite but still get the message across that my baby is

perfect in my eyes.

>

> Another question, within the CHARGE acronym R stands for

retardation of growth and development. Is this ever officially

diagnosed? Jack is almost 4 months old and is 7 pounds 12 ounces

and doesn't do anything a " normal " 4 month old baby would do. I

would say that he has the R but no doctor has ever told us that.

So, should we include the R or not? I just never know.

>

>

> Mom to Jack, almost 4 months with CHARGE

>

>

>

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Rosie-

Although I agree with the approach of taking " rude " comments as an

educational opportunity and assuming the intent was ignorance rather than

mean-spiritedness, I must say that I got a giggle out of those zingers! I'd

probably never say them - unless someone was really being mean - but they

are funny. It's humor that only we can appreciate.

You do have a talent! I think you sit beside the other Rosie on the View

and give my morning a great start!

Michele W

Aubrie's mom 9 yrs

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Rosie,

You gave me a MUCH needed laugh. With our cleft repair a week away ,everyone

in the house sick,and just plain having four kids, two of them CHARGErs, I'm

a ball of stress. Laughter is the best medicine...thank you. So glad I just

got back on the list:)

Tate has, as our six year old son desciribed them, " Yoda " ears so I may just

try some of these out!

Blessings,

Corrie

mom to Peyton10(CHARGE),Cy 7, (4) and Tate(CHARGE w/ about the

" CHARGEiest " ears you've seen:)

>

> Hi, :

> My son with CHARGE is 11 years old, so I've had plenty of time to

> come up with one-liners. Plus, my family says that coming up with " in-

> your-face " one-liners is my rare talent! So here goes... hope I don't

> offend. Please just take these lightly...or if you just want to

> imagine these responses but not really say them, they might give you

> a private giggle...

>

> To people who suggest that Jack's ear can be fixed, you might say:

>

> 1) Yes, if he lives through another open-heart surgery, the upcoming

> subaortic stenosis repair, we might look into that. (wow them with

> big words)

>

> 2) Well, they gave us a choice between heart surgery to save his

> life, or plastic surgery to make him pretty - we chose life.

>

> 3) What are you talking about? We had that ear made special!! It's

> the latest fad!!

>

> 4) Yes, but you see, we are auditioning him for the Lord of the Rings.

>

> 5) Well, we are of the mindset that God doesn't make mistakes. What

> do you think?

>

> 6) Do you have any idea how many times I've heard that? Believe me,

> we have plenty of other things to worry about right now.

>

> 7) We are suffering enough without comments like that, thank you.

>

> 8) No speaka English.

>

> 9) (act like you had not noticed) What??? Oh, my God!! Honey, what

> happened to your ear?? Someone call 911, quick!!!!

>

> 10) (flick your child's ear and say, very casually) Well, you get

> what you get and you don't throw a fit.

>

> 11) I tell him all the time if he keeps telling lies his ear will

> continue to grow out like that, but he just doesn't listen.

>

> 12) You know, he can hear you.

>

> 13) (or if he can't hear, pretend that you can't either and start

> signing to the person, pointing to their nose and making gestures

> that imply how big it is, start laughing uproariously, then walk away

> shaking your head)

>

> 14) Oh, are we pointing out each other's flaws now?

>

> 15) You know they also have surgeries available to fix your face.

>

> 16) Yes, he's a rather funny-looking little guy. I'm thinking of

> trading him in for a different model? You interested?

>

> Hope these inspire you <smile>... and remember, you are NOT alone!

>

> Rosie

> Mom to Neal (CHARGE-11yrs) and -marie (6 years)

>

>

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Oh how I needed this this morning! Last night I came up with a lot of

inappropriate responses with really bad words in them but I like yours much

better. I like to go with the shock value so I'll keep #1 in mind at all times!

Lori Myers

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Hi, :

My son with CHARGE is 11 years old, so I've had plenty of time to

come up with one-liners. Plus, my family says that coming up with " in-

your-face " one-liners is my rare talent! So here goes... hope I don't

offend. Please just take these lightly...or if you just want to

imagine these responses but not really say them, they might give you

a private giggle...

To people who suggest that Jack's ear can be fixed, you might say:

1) Yes, if he lives through another open-heart surgery, the upcoming

subaortic stenosis repair, we might look into that. (wow them with

big words)

2) Well, they gave us a choice between heart surgery to save his

life, or plastic surgery to make him pretty - we chose life.

3) What are you talking about? We had that ear made special!! It's

the latest fad!!

4) Yes, but you see, we are auditioning him for the Lord of the Rings.

5) Well, we are of the mindset that God doesn't make mistakes. What

do you think?

6) Do you have any idea how many times I've heard that? Believe me,

we have plenty of other things to worry about right now.

7) We are suffering enough without comments like that, thank you.

8) No speaka English.

9) (act like you had not noticed) What??? Oh, my God!! Honey, what

happened to your ear?? Someone call 911, quick!!!!

10) (flick your child's ear and say, very casually) Well, you get

what you get and you don't throw a fit.

11) I tell him all the time if he keeps telling lies his ear will

continue to grow out like that, but he just doesn't listen.

12) You know, he can hear you.

13) (or if he can't hear, pretend that you can't either and start

signing to the person, pointing to their nose and making gestures

that imply how big it is, start laughing uproariously, then walk away

shaking your head)

14) Oh, are we pointing out each other's flaws now?

15) You know they also have surgeries available to fix your face.

16) Yes, he's a rather funny-looking little guy. I'm thinking of

trading him in for a different model? You interested?

Hope these inspire you <smile>... and remember, you are NOT alone!

Rosie

Mom to Neal (CHARGE-11yrs) and -marie (6 years)

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Okay, number three is great too. Maybe I should read them all before I

respond...

, mommy to Meagan (CHaRgE) and 2 year old twins, and big brother

4 years, married to the best daddy in the world for 9 years!

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Oh how I needed this this morning! Last night I came up with a lot of

inappropriate responses with really bad words in them but I like yours much

better. I like to go with the shock value so I'll keep #1 in mind at all

times!

Lori Myers

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Hi, :

My son with CHARGE is 11 years old, so I've had plenty of time to

come up with one-liners. Plus, my family says that coming up with " in-

your-face " one-liners is my rare talent! So here goes... hope I don't

offend. Please just take these lightly...or if you just want to

imagine these responses but not really say them, they might give you

a private giggle...

To people who suggest that Jack's ear can be fixed, you might say:

1) Yes, if he lives through another open-heart surgery, the upcoming

subaortic stenosis repair, we might look into that. (wow them with

big words)

2) Well, they gave us a choice between heart surgery to save his

life, or plastic surgery to make him pretty - we chose life.

3) What are you talking about? We had that ear made special!! It's

the latest fad!!

4) Yes, but you see, we are auditioning him for the Lord of the Rings.

5) Well, we are of the mindset that God doesn't make mistakes. What

do you think?

6) Do you have any idea how many times I've heard that? Believe me,

we have plenty of other things to worry about right now.

7) We are suffering enough without comments like that, thank you.

8) No speaka English.

9) (act like you had not noticed) What??? Oh, my God!! Honey, what

happened to your ear?? Someone call 911, quick!!!!

10) (flick your child's ear and say, very casually) Well, you get

what you get and you don't throw a fit.

11) I tell him all the time if he keeps telling lies his ear will

continue to grow out like that, but he just doesn't listen.

12) You know, he can hear you.

13) (or if he can't hear, pretend that you can't either and start

signing to the person, pointing to their nose and making gestures

that imply how big it is, start laughing uproariously, then walk away

shaking your head)

14) Oh, are we pointing out each other's flaws now?

15) You know they also have surgeries available to fix your face.

16) Yes, he's a rather funny-looking little guy. I'm thinking of

trading him in for a different model? You interested?

Hope these inspire you <smile>... and remember, you are NOT alone!

Rosie

Mom to Neal (CHARGE-11yrs) and -marie (6 years)

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My vote is number 2! I LOVE that one!!

, mommy to Meagan (CHaRgE) and 2 year old twins, and big brother

4 years, married to the best daddy in the world for 9 years!

-- Re: Re: Rude Comments

Oh how I needed this this morning! Last night I came up with a lot of

inappropriate responses with really bad words in them but I like yours much

better. I like to go with the shock value so I'll keep #1 in mind at all

times!

Lori Myers

Re: Rude Comments

Hi, :

My son with CHARGE is 11 years old, so I've had plenty of time to

come up with one-liners. Plus, my family says that coming up with " in-

your-face " one-liners is my rare talent! So here goes... hope I don't

offend. Please just take these lightly...or if you just want to

imagine these responses but not really say them, they might give you

a private giggle...

To people who suggest that Jack's ear can be fixed, you might say:

1) Yes, if he lives through another open-heart surgery, the upcoming

subaortic stenosis repair, we might look into that. (wow them with

big words)

2) Well, they gave us a choice between heart surgery to save his

life, or plastic surgery to make him pretty - we chose life.

3) What are you talking about? We had that ear made special!! It's

the latest fad!!

4) Yes, but you see, we are auditioning him for the Lord of the Rings.

5) Well, we are of the mindset that God doesn't make mistakes. What

do you think?

6) Do you have any idea how many times I've heard that? Believe me,

we have plenty of other things to worry about right now.

7) We are suffering enough without comments like that, thank you.

8) No speaka English.

9) (act like you had not noticed) What??? Oh, my God!! Honey, what

happened to your ear?? Someone call 911, quick!!!!

10) (flick your child's ear and say, very casually) Well, you get

what you get and you don't throw a fit.

11) I tell him all the time if he keeps telling lies his ear will

continue to grow out like that, but he just doesn't listen.

12) You know, he can hear you.

13) (or if he can't hear, pretend that you can't either and start

signing to the person, pointing to their nose and making gestures

that imply how big it is, start laughing uproariously, then walk away

shaking your head)

14) Oh, are we pointing out each other's flaws now?

15) You know they also have surgeries available to fix your face.

16) Yes, he's a rather funny-looking little guy. I'm thinking of

trading him in for a different model? You interested?

Hope these inspire you <smile>... and remember, you are NOT alone!

Rosie

Mom to Neal (CHARGE-11yrs) and -marie (6 years)

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Oh MY GOD ROSIE!! Those are so funny!!! Thanks for sharing!!

Crystal mom to (11), (3) and Eva 21 month old CHARGEr)

wife to Dan in Illinois

>

> Hi, :

> My son with CHARGE is 11 years old, so I've had plenty of time to

> come up with one-liners. Plus, my family says that coming up

with " in-

> your-face " one-liners is my rare talent! So here goes... hope I

don't

> offend. Please just take these lightly...or if you just want to

> imagine these responses but not really say them, they might give

you

> a private giggle...

>

> To people who suggest that Jack's ear can be fixed, you might say:

>

> 1) Yes, if he lives through another open-heart surgery, the

upcoming

> subaortic stenosis repair, we might look into that. (wow them with

> big words)

>

> 2) Well, they gave us a choice between heart surgery to save his

> life, or plastic surgery to make him pretty - we chose life.

>

> 3) What are you talking about? We had that ear made special!! It's

> the latest fad!!

>

> 4) Yes, but you see, we are auditioning him for the Lord of the

Rings.

>

> 5) Well, we are of the mindset that God doesn't make mistakes.

What

> do you think?

>

> 6) Do you have any idea how many times I've heard that? Believe

me,

> we have plenty of other things to worry about right now.

>

> 7) We are suffering enough without comments like that, thank you.

>

> 8) No speaka English.

>

> 9) (act like you had not noticed) What??? Oh, my God!! Honey, what

> happened to your ear?? Someone call 911, quick!!!!

>

> 10) (flick your child's ear and say, very casually) Well, you get

> what you get and you don't throw a fit.

>

> 11) I tell him all the time if he keeps telling lies his ear will

> continue to grow out like that, but he just doesn't listen.

>

> 12) You know, he can hear you.

>

> 13) (or if he can't hear, pretend that you can't either and start

> signing to the person, pointing to their nose and making gestures

> that imply how big it is, start laughing uproariously, then walk

away

> shaking your head)

>

> 14) Oh, are we pointing out each other's flaws now?

>

> 15) You know they also have surgeries available to fix your face.

>

> 16) Yes, he's a rather funny-looking little guy. I'm thinking of

> trading him in for a different model? You interested?

>

> Hope these inspire you <smile>... and remember, you are NOT alone!

>

> Rosie

> Mom to Neal (CHARGE-11yrs) and -marie (6 years)

>

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Hello Tim

I have heard these explanations before regarding the retardation in

development, which only make sense since many of these babies are in the

hospital, having surgeries and are sedated, for many months in their early

development months and years. What I am wondering is really the " brain

abnormalities " that happen in CHARGE, is this what really accounts for the

mental retardation " in some children? What I mean is abnormalities seen by

MRI, such as " small brain " or " polymicrogyria " , etc..?

Thank you,

Liz

-- Re:Rude Comments

,

The " R " in CHARGE is a problem. In fact, there are a number of

professionals who wish the acronym had never been developed. Back when

Hall first noticed that a number of anomalies seemed to being

appearing together with a frequency greater than chance, and went back

through his files, the cases that were identified were what you might

call " severe " CHARGE. These were the obvious cases. Today we recognize

that the variability in CHARGE is huge. I heard about a woman with the

CHARGE gene who only has balance difficulties - nothing more. The

problem with the " R " when it referred to both growth and developmental

issues is that it lowered expectations for kids with CHARGE. I heard

many times that professionals told parents " your child will be mentally

retarded. " In fact, this is not necessarily the case. I tell people to

expect low normal intelligence, which translates into an IQ range of

70-85. It may well be much higher or it could, as in the case of my own

son, be much lower. There are some really smart kids with CHARGE, as

represented by those who are on this list. So never presume cognitive

impairment, although it is a possibility. Slow development of normal

milestones is not necessarily due to low IQ. Our kids are often

hypotonic, they have balance difficulties, they have sensory impairments

- all of these things can lead to delays in making developmental motor

and other milestones. Of course your child is who he or she is. That

will play out in time. In the meantime, keep doing what you can to

provide appropriate services and enjoy your child.

Tim Hartshorne

S. Hartshorne

Professor of Psychology

Sloan Hall 215

Central Michigan University

Mount Pleasant, MI 48859

(989)774-6479 office

(989)774-2553 fax

tim.hartshorne@...

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corrie, good luck with the surgery and hope everyone feels better. my friend's

son just got back from the dr. w/ strep and another person's kid has strep--I'm

hoping it doesn't hit us.

I think tate's ears are adorable!

maria, mom to timmy 11 ChARGE, keegan 8, liam 6 wife topat

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Rosie,

You gave me a MUCH needed laugh. With our cleft repair a week away ,everyone

in the house sick,and just plain having four kids, two of them CHARGErs, I'm

a ball of stress. Laughter is the best medicine...thank you. So glad I just

got back on the list:)

Tate has, as our six year old son desciribed them, " Yoda " ears so I may just

try some of these out!

Blessings,

Corrie

mom to Peyton10(CHARGE),Cy 7, (4) and Tate(CHARGE w/ about the

" CHARGEiest " ears you've seen:)

>

> Hi, :

> My son with CHARGE is 11 years old, so I've had plenty of time to

> come up with one-liners. Plus, my family says that coming up with " in-

> your-face " one-liners is my rare talent! So here goes... hope I don't

> offend. Please just take these lightly...or if you just want to

> imagine these responses but not really say them, they might give you

> a private giggle...

>

> To people who suggest that Jack's ear can be fixed, you might say:

>

> 1) Yes, if he lives through another open-heart surgery, the upcoming

> subaortic stenosis repair, we might look into that. (wow them with

> big words)

>

> 2) Well, they gave us a choice between heart surgery to save his

> life, or plastic surgery to make him pretty - we chose life.

>

> 3) What are you talking about? We had that ear made special!! It's

> the latest fad!!

>

> 4) Yes, but you see, we are auditioning him for the Lord of the Rings.

>

> 5) Well, we are of the mindset that God doesn't make mistakes. What

> do you think?

>

> 6) Do you have any idea how many times I've heard that? Believe me,

> we have plenty of other things to worry about right now.

>

> 7) We are suffering enough without comments like that, thank you.

>

> 8) No speaka English.

>

> 9) (act like you had not noticed) What??? Oh, my God!! Honey, what

> happened to your ear?? Someone call 911, quick!!!!

>

> 10) (flick your child's ear and say, very casually) Well, you get

> what you get and you don't throw a fit.

>

> 11) I tell him all the time if he keeps telling lies his ear will

> continue to grow out like that, but he just doesn't listen.

>

> 12) You know, he can hear you.

>

> 13) (or if he can't hear, pretend that you can't either and start

> signing to the person, pointing to their nose and making gestures

> that imply how big it is, start laughing uproariously, then walk away

> shaking your head)

>

> 14) Oh, are we pointing out each other's flaws now?

>

> 15) You know they also have surgeries available to fix your face.

>

> 16) Yes, he's a rather funny-looking little guy. I'm thinking of

> trading him in for a different model? You interested?

>

> Hope these inspire you <smile>... and remember, you are NOT alone!

>

> Rosie

> Mom to Neal (CHARGE-11yrs) and -marie (6 years)

>

>

>

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