Guest guest Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 My BPD mom has been waging a legal battle against my step father since 2007, when he decided to divorce her after 23 years of marriage. She has fabricated allegations against him claiming he is a violent abuser, claims he is a pedophile, has slept with numerous other women, is gay(which amuses me based on previous allegation), and the list goes on and on. My step father has been the only stable adult in my life, and has been my father figure since the age of 5 or 6. She even claimed he would rape my five month old baby boy if I allowed him to come into contact with him. Throughout the past five years, she goes into violent rages against me and my husband because we refuse to sever ties with my step father. I have stated that whatever goes on between them is between them, and I chose to remain neutral. She has the opinion that we are " agaisnt her " because we still speak to my step dad and she cannot get past that. She no longer refers to me as her " daughter " and hasn't met one of her grandchildren(who she won't call grandkids either), and hasn't seen the other one since he was 1. We have continually stated that we would like to maintain relationships with both of them, however she refuses to accept these boundaries. I am continually innundated with court documents, new " conspiracies " , ect. She has created email accounts using my name, to harass people using my identity. She has tried to have us suboenaed to " testify " against my step dad (for what we are not sure of). She has stolen money, drained her 401K, gone to jail for contempt of court, and so many other things that it exhausts me to think about it. Because her rages are so violent and explosive, I stand strong with the demand that she cannot discuss her divorce/legal battles with us(as this is when she becomes explosive). Although that behavior isn't shocking to me, I refuse to expose my children to it. Well of course, she refuses to abide by my boundaries, and choses to have nothing to do with us instead. Lately, she has been calling and demanding money(while insulting me at the same time) so her car doesn't get repossed. We decided that to avoid being blamed for anything that happens as a result of the car getting repossed, we would make a one time " piece of mind " payment. That was followed with an email asking me " what she could have done to deserve such horrible treatment from her former family " ? You know, the ones that have given you $6,000 over the past few months...how dare they. I find out today that she is going to be homeless by the end of the week. I don't feel that my children are safe around her, but I don't know what to do if she comes knocking at the door for a place to stay (as well as her 2 dogs). It is the " she is my mom " guilt rearing it's ugly head. Any advice??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 Dear biochem - You've had a lot to deal with. I have to say, given the history you describe, I'd be pursuing a restraining order, documenting her attempts to misuse your identity, and having the deadbolts changed. If she is homeless - through her own choices - and you let her stay with you, you will never get rid of her. When you do have to make her leave, she will vilify you. She will use every detail of your life to create more drama and trouble. Because I'm an animal lover, I'd say take the dogs for her - but I know she'll use that, too, as a weapon. Sadly, you just can't be nice to some people - and it sounds like your mother is one of those very destructive types. You have to have high walls and a deep moat around the sanctity of your home, or she'll destroy the home you've made, just as she destroyed her own. It's going to make you feel terrible, I know, but you might need to get some kind of legal protection against her and let her experience the consequences of her actions. I'm sorry you're going through this. > > My BPD mom has been waging a legal battle against my step father since 2007, when he decided to divorce her after 23 years of marriage. She has fabricated allegations against him claiming he is a violent abuser, claims he is a pedophile, has slept with numerous other women, is gay(which amuses me based on previous allegation), and the list goes on and on. My step father has been the only stable adult in my life, and has been my father figure since the age of 5 or 6. She even claimed he would rape my five month old baby boy if I allowed him to come into contact with him. > > Throughout the past five years, she goes into violent rages against me and my husband because we refuse to sever ties with my step father. I have stated that whatever goes on between them is between them, and I chose to remain neutral. She has the opinion that we are " agaisnt her " because we still speak to my step dad and she cannot get past that. She no longer refers to me as her " daughter " and hasn't met one of her grandchildren(who she won't call grandkids either), and hasn't seen the other one since he was 1. We have continually stated that we would like to maintain relationships with both of them, however she refuses to accept these boundaries. I am continually innundated with court documents, new " conspiracies " , ect. She has created email accounts using my name, to harass people using my identity. She has tried to have us suboenaed to " testify " against my step dad (for what we are not sure of). She has stolen money, drained her 401K, gone to jail for contempt of court, and so many other things that it exhausts me to think about it. > > Because her rages are so violent and explosive, I stand strong with the demand that she cannot discuss her divorce/legal battles with us(as this is when she becomes explosive). Although that behavior isn't shocking to me, I refuse to expose my children to it. Well of course, she refuses to abide by my boundaries, and choses to have nothing to do with us instead. Lately, she has been calling and demanding money(while insulting me at the same time) so her car doesn't get repossed. We decided that to avoid being blamed for anything that happens as a result of the car getting repossed, we would make a one time " piece of mind " payment. That was followed with an email asking me " what she could have done to deserve such horrible treatment from her former family " ? You know, the ones that have given you $6,000 over the past few months...how dare they. I find out today that she is going to be homeless by the end of the week. I don't feel that my children are safe around her, but I don't know what to do if she comes knocking at the door for a place to stay (as well as her 2 dogs). It is the " she is my mom " guilt rearing it's ugly head. Any advice??? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 So sorry you have to go through all that biochem, yep, I'd bust out every single last possible legal avenue to keep myself and my family safe. I hate to say it, but I'd suggest considering NC very strongly. And it also seems clear that nothing you have done to help her has really HELPED because her choices are so shitty. On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 3:23 PM, shirleyspawn wrote: > ** > > > Dear biochem - You've had a lot to deal with. I have to say, given the > history you describe, I'd be pursuing a restraining order, documenting her > attempts to misuse your identity, and having the deadbolts changed. If she > is homeless - through her own choices - and you let her stay with you, you > will never get rid of her. When you do have to make her leave, she will > vilify you. She will use every detail of your life to create more drama and > trouble. Because I'm an animal lover, I'd say take the dogs for her - but I > know she'll use that, too, as a weapon. Sadly, you just can't be nice to > some people - and it sounds like your mother is one of those very > destructive types. You have to have high walls and a deep moat around the > sanctity of your home, or she'll destroy the home you've made, just as she > destroyed her own. It's going to make you feel terrible, I know, but you > might need to get some kind of legal protection against her and let her > experience the consequences of her actions. I'm sorry you're going through > this. > > > > > > > > > My BPD mom has been waging a legal battle against my step father since > 2007, when he decided to divorce her after 23 years of marriage. She has > fabricated allegations against him claiming he is a violent abuser, claims > he is a pedophile, has slept with numerous other women, is gay(which amuses > me based on previous allegation), and the list goes on and on. My step > father has been the only stable adult in my life, and has been my father > figure since the age of 5 or 6. She even claimed he would rape my five month > old baby boy if I allowed him to come into contact with him. > > > > Throughout the past five years, she goes into violent rages against me > and my husband because we refuse to sever ties with my step father. I have > stated that whatever goes on between them is between them, and I chose to > remain neutral. She has the opinion that we are " agaisnt her " because we > still speak to my step dad and she cannot get past that. She no longer > refers to me as her " daughter " and hasn't met one of her grandchildren(who > she won't call grandkids either), and hasn't seen the other one since he was > 1. We have continually stated that we would like to maintain relationships > with both of them, however she refuses to accept these boundaries. I am > continually innundated with court documents, new " conspiracies " , ect. She > has created email accounts using my name, to harass people using my > identity. She has tried to have us suboenaed to " testify " against my step > dad (for what we are not sure of). She has stolen money, drained her 401K, > gone to jail for contempt of court, and so many other things that it > exhausts me to think about it. > > > > Because her rages are so violent and explosive, I stand strong with the > demand that she cannot discuss her divorce/legal battles with us(as this is > when she becomes explosive). Although that behavior isn't shocking to me, I > refuse to expose my children to it. Well of course, she refuses to abide by > my boundaries, and choses to have nothing to do with us instead. Lately, she > has been calling and demanding money(while insulting me at the same time) so > her car doesn't get repossed. We decided that to avoid being blamed for > anything that happens as a result of the car getting repossed, we would make > a one time " piece of mind " payment. That was followed with an email asking > me " what she could have done to deserve such horrible treatment from her > former family " ? You know, the ones that have given you $6,000 over the past > few months...how dare they. I find out today that she is going to be > homeless by the end of the week. I don't feel that my children are safe > around her, but I don't know what to do if she comes knocking at the door > for a place to stay (as well as her 2 dogs). It is the " she is my mom " guilt > rearing it's ugly head. Any advice??? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 That sounds incredibly challenging. What are you getting from the current relationship with your mom? Nadas typically don't respect or even acknowledge limits that KO's try and set. You say she chooses to have nothing to do with you, but then calls and demands money, so seems to me that she's still kind of running the show. Your intent was a one time payment in hopes of worse case scenario, but she probably doesn't see it that way. And it sounds like it IS worse. If your nada was the victim of an earthquake, bankruptcy due to medical expenses, then it would be the normal response to take her in. But sounds like her destructive, manipulative behavior is catching up with her. She did this to herself, and you are not obligated to take care of her. Most " normal " parents have great difficulty in asking their kids for any kind of help. Your obligation is to your kids and husband, and to take care of yourself! What would life be like if you let her stay with you?? Give her the phone numbers to the nearest shelters, senior services, etc. Anyone as resourceful as she has been in the legal arena should be able to navigate the system. > > My BPD mom has been waging a legal battle against my step father since 2007, when he decided to divorce her after 23 years of marriage. She has fabricated allegations against him claiming he is a violent abuser, claims he is a pedophile, has slept with numerous other women, is gay(which amuses me based on previous allegation), and the list goes on and on. My step father has been the only stable adult in my life, and has been my father figure since the age of 5 or 6. She even claimed he would rape my five month old baby boy if I allowed him to come into contact with him. > > Throughout the past five years, she goes into violent rages against me and my husband because we refuse to sever ties with my step father. I have stated that whatever goes on between them is between them, and I chose to remain neutral. She has the opinion that we are " agaisnt her " because we still speak to my step dad and she cannot get past that. She no longer refers to me as her " daughter " and hasn't met one of her grandchildren(who she won't call grandkids either), and hasn't seen the other one since he was 1. We have continually stated that we would like to maintain relationships with both of them, however she refuses to accept these boundaries. I am continually innundated with court documents, new " conspiracies " , ect. She has created email accounts using my name, to harass people using my identity. She has tried to have us suboenaed to " testify " against my step dad (for what we are not sure of). She has stolen money, drained her 401K, gone to jail for contempt of court, and so many other things that it exhausts me to think about it. > > Because her rages are so violent and explosive, I stand strong with the demand that she cannot discuss her divorce/legal battles with us(as this is when she becomes explosive). Although that behavior isn't shocking to me, I refuse to expose my children to it. Well of course, she refuses to abide by my boundaries, and choses to have nothing to do with us instead. Lately, she has been calling and demanding money(while insulting me at the same time) so her car doesn't get repossed. We decided that to avoid being blamed for anything that happens as a result of the car getting repossed, we would make a one time " piece of mind " payment. That was followed with an email asking me " what she could have done to deserve such horrible treatment from her former family " ? You know, the ones that have given you $6,000 over the past few months...how dare they. I find out today that she is going to be homeless by the end of the week. I don't feel that my children are safe around her, but I don't know what to do if she comes knocking at the door for a place to stay (as well as her 2 dogs). It is the " she is my mom " guilt rearing it's ugly head. Any advice??? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Thank you so much for the advice. I DID IT! I went NC, and informed her that if any threats are made against me, my family, or herself, that my husband and I will call law enforcement. It has been 2 days, and I haven't heard anything yet! We also set up a game plan to hopefully give me some mental peace. 1. Don't read her emails. 2. Husband reads the emails and only notifies me of the contents if we have to call the police, or we think she may be coming into town. 3. Keep all emails in a folder in case legal action ever needs to be taken. 4. Mainain sense of humor, because this s*#t is crazy!!! Take care everyone:) > > > > > > My BPD mom has been waging a legal battle against my step father since > > 2007, when he decided to divorce her after 23 years of marriage. She has > > fabricated allegations against him claiming he is a violent abuser, claims > > he is a pedophile, has slept with numerous other women, is gay(which amuses > > me based on previous allegation), and the list goes on and on. My step > > father has been the only stable adult in my life, and has been my father > > figure since the age of 5 or 6. She even claimed he would rape my five month > > old baby boy if I allowed him to come into contact with him. > > > > > > Throughout the past five years, she goes into violent rages against me > > and my husband because we refuse to sever ties with my step father. I have > > stated that whatever goes on between them is between them, and I chose to > > remain neutral. She has the opinion that we are " agaisnt her " because we > > still speak to my step dad and she cannot get past that. She no longer > > refers to me as her " daughter " and hasn't met one of her grandchildren(who > > she won't call grandkids either), and hasn't seen the other one since he was > > 1. We have continually stated that we would like to maintain relationships > > with both of them, however she refuses to accept these boundaries. I am > > continually innundated with court documents, new " conspiracies " , ect. She > > has created email accounts using my name, to harass people using my > > identity. She has tried to have us suboenaed to " testify " against my step > > dad (for what we are not sure of). She has stolen money, drained her 401K, > > gone to jail for contempt of court, and so many other things that it > > exhausts me to think about it. > > > > > > Because her rages are so violent and explosive, I stand strong with the > > demand that she cannot discuss her divorce/legal battles with us(as this is > > when she becomes explosive). Although that behavior isn't shocking to me, I > > refuse to expose my children to it. Well of course, she refuses to abide by > > my boundaries, and choses to have nothing to do with us instead. Lately, she > > has been calling and demanding money(while insulting me at the same time) so > > her car doesn't get repossed. We decided that to avoid being blamed for > > anything that happens as a result of the car getting repossed, we would make > > a one time " piece of mind " payment. That was followed with an email asking > > me " what she could have done to deserve such horrible treatment from her > > former family " ? You know, the ones that have given you $6,000 over the past > > few months...how dare they. I find out today that she is going to be > > homeless by the end of the week. I don't feel that my children are safe > > around her, but I don't know what to do if she comes knocking at the door > > for a place to stay (as well as her 2 dogs). It is the " she is my mom " guilt > > rearing it's ugly head. Any advice??? > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Thanks stillsmirky! I made the decision to go NC, we shall see... > > > > My BPD mom has been waging a legal battle against my step father since 2007, when he decided to divorce her after 23 years of marriage. She has fabricated allegations against him claiming he is a violent abuser, claims he is a pedophile, has slept with numerous other women, is gay(which amuses me based on previous allegation), and the list goes on and on. My step father has been the only stable adult in my life, and has been my father figure since the age of 5 or 6. She even claimed he would rape my five month old baby boy if I allowed him to come into contact with him. > > > > Throughout the past five years, she goes into violent rages against me and my husband because we refuse to sever ties with my step father. I have stated that whatever goes on between them is between them, and I chose to remain neutral. She has the opinion that we are " agaisnt her " because we still speak to my step dad and she cannot get past that. She no longer refers to me as her " daughter " and hasn't met one of her grandchildren(who she won't call grandkids either), and hasn't seen the other one since he was 1. We have continually stated that we would like to maintain relationships with both of them, however she refuses to accept these boundaries. I am continually innundated with court documents, new " conspiracies " , ect. She has created email accounts using my name, to harass people using my identity. She has tried to have us suboenaed to " testify " against my step dad (for what we are not sure of). She has stolen money, drained her 401K, gone to jail for contempt of court, and so many other things that it exhausts me to think about it. > > > > Because her rages are so violent and explosive, I stand strong with the demand that she cannot discuss her divorce/legal battles with us(as this is when she becomes explosive). Although that behavior isn't shocking to me, I refuse to expose my children to it. Well of course, she refuses to abide by my boundaries, and choses to have nothing to do with us instead. Lately, she has been calling and demanding money(while insulting me at the same time) so her car doesn't get repossed. We decided that to avoid being blamed for anything that happens as a result of the car getting repossed, we would make a one time " piece of mind " payment. That was followed with an email asking me " what she could have done to deserve such horrible treatment from her former family " ? You know, the ones that have given you $6,000 over the past few months...how dare they. I find out today that she is going to be homeless by the end of the week. I don't feel that my children are safe around her, but I don't know what to do if she comes knocking at the door for a place to stay (as well as her 2 dogs). It is the " she is my mom " guilt rearing it's ugly head. Any advice??? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Hi biochem, I agree with the other members; your bpd mom sounds very hostile, emotionally unstable, paranoid, delusional, and destructive to both herself and those around her. I think that is a wise choice to go No Contact, and to consult with a lawyer over the option of pursuing a restraining order. The behaviors you've described, including identity theft, theft of property, harassment lawsuits, and even rage and violence, make it sound to me like a restraining order is long overdue. Its sad when our own parent is so disturbed and destructive, but you owe it to yourself and your husband and children to take the steps necessary to protect yourselves from further harm. Has your mom ever been formally diagnosed? Keep reminding yourselves that you did not make your mother this way, and you can't fix her or save her from her own self. If she becomes homeless and violent enough to get picked up by the police again, I'm guessing she will probably undergo an involuntary psychiatric hold and evaluation to determine what's going on (it could be any number of things from alcoholic dementia to schizophrenia to bad drug interactions to early stage Alzheimer's. Or severe bpd.) Only a psychiatrist can tease out the causes of her extreme and destructive behaviors and figure out how to help her. Best of luck to you and your family; my heart goes out to you RE how difficult this is. -Annie > > My BPD mom has been waging a legal battle against my step father since 2007, when he decided to divorce her after 23 years of marriage. She has fabricated allegations against him claiming he is a violent abuser, claims he is a pedophile, has slept with numerous other women, is gay(which amuses me based on previous allegation), and the list goes on and on. My step father has been the only stable adult in my life, and has been my father figure since the age of 5 or 6. She even claimed he would rape my five month old baby boy if I allowed him to come into contact with him. > > Throughout the past five years, she goes into violent rages against me and my husband because we refuse to sever ties with my step father. I have stated that whatever goes on between them is between them, and I chose to remain neutral. She has the opinion that we are " agaisnt her " because we still speak to my step dad and she cannot get past that. She no longer refers to me as her " daughter " and hasn't met one of her grandchildren(who she won't call grandkids either), and hasn't seen the other one since he was 1. We have continually stated that we would like to maintain relationships with both of them, however she refuses to accept these boundaries. I am continually innundated with court documents, new " conspiracies " , ect. She has created email accounts using my name, to harass people using my identity. She has tried to have us suboenaed to " testify " against my step dad (for what we are not sure of). She has stolen money, drained her 401K, gone to jail for contempt of court, and so many other things that it exhausts me to think about it. > > Because her rages are so violent and explosive, I stand strong with the demand that she cannot discuss her divorce/legal battles with us(as this is when she becomes explosive). Although that behavior isn't shocking to me, I refuse to expose my children to it. Well of course, she refuses to abide by my boundaries, and choses to have nothing to do with us instead. Lately, she has been calling and demanding money(while insulting me at the same time) so her car doesn't get repossed. We decided that to avoid being blamed for anything that happens as a result of the car getting repossed, we would make a one time " piece of mind " payment. That was followed with an email asking me " what she could have done to deserve such horrible treatment from her former family " ? You know, the ones that have given you $6,000 over the past few months...how dare they. I find out today that she is going to be homeless by the end of the week. I don't feel that my children are safe around her, but I don't know what to do if she comes knocking at the door for a place to stay (as well as her 2 dogs). It is the " she is my mom " guilt rearing it's ugly head. Any advice??? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Sounds like a great plan! Especially the part about having your husband filter the emails. Take care! > > > > > > My BPD mom has been waging a legal battle against my step father since 2007, when he decided to divorce her after 23 years of marriage. She has fabricated allegations against him claiming he is a violent abuser, claims he is a pedophile, has slept with numerous other women, is gay(which amuses me based on previous allegation), and the list goes on and on. My step father has been the only stable adult in my life, and has been my father figure since the age of 5 or 6. She even claimed he would rape my five month old baby boy if I allowed him to come into contact with him. > > > > > > Throughout the past five years, she goes into violent rages against me and my husband because we refuse to sever ties with my step father. I have stated that whatever goes on between them is between them, and I chose to remain neutral. She has the opinion that we are " agaisnt her " because we still speak to my step dad and she cannot get past that. She no longer refers to me as her " daughter " and hasn't met one of her grandchildren(who she won't call grandkids either), and hasn't seen the other one since he was 1. We have continually stated that we would like to maintain relationships with both of them, however she refuses to accept these boundaries. I am continually innundated with court documents, new " conspiracies " , ect. She has created email accounts using my name, to harass people using my identity. She has tried to have us suboenaed to " testify " against my step dad (for what we are not sure of). She has stolen money, drained her 401K, gone to jail for contempt of court, and so many other things that it exhausts me to think about it. > > > > > > Because her rages are so violent and explosive, I stand strong with the demand that she cannot discuss her divorce/legal battles with us(as this is when she becomes explosive). Although that behavior isn't shocking to me, I refuse to expose my children to it. Well of course, she refuses to abide by my boundaries, and choses to have nothing to do with us instead. Lately, she has been calling and demanding money(while insulting me at the same time) so her car doesn't get repossed. We decided that to avoid being blamed for anything that happens as a result of the car getting repossed, we would make a one time " piece of mind " payment. That was followed with an email asking me " what she could have done to deserve such horrible treatment from her former family " ? You know, the ones that have given you $6,000 over the past few months...how dare they. I find out today that she is going to be homeless by the end of the week. I don't feel that my children are safe around her, but I don't know what to do if she comes knocking at the door for a place to stay (as well as her 2 dogs). It is the " she is my mom " guilt rearing it's ugly head. Any advice??? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 This sounds like a terrific plan! And healthy! > > > > > > > > My BPD mom has been waging a legal battle against my step father since > > > 2007, when he decided to divorce her after 23 years of marriage. She has > > > fabricated allegations against him claiming he is a violent abuser, claims > > > he is a pedophile, has slept with numerous other women, is gay(which amuses > > > me based on previous allegation), and the list goes on and on. My step > > > father has been the only stable adult in my life, and has been my father > > > figure since the age of 5 or 6. She even claimed he would rape my five month > > > old baby boy if I allowed him to come into contact with him. > > > > > > > > Throughout the past five years, she goes into violent rages against me > > > and my husband because we refuse to sever ties with my step father. I have > > > stated that whatever goes on between them is between them, and I chose to > > > remain neutral. She has the opinion that we are " agaisnt her " because we > > > still speak to my step dad and she cannot get past that. She no longer > > > refers to me as her " daughter " and hasn't met one of her grandchildren(who > > > she won't call grandkids either), and hasn't seen the other one since he was > > > 1. We have continually stated that we would like to maintain relationships > > > with both of them, however she refuses to accept these boundaries. I am > > > continually innundated with court documents, new " conspiracies " , ect. She > > > has created email accounts using my name, to harass people using my > > > identity. She has tried to have us suboenaed to " testify " against my step > > > dad (for what we are not sure of). She has stolen money, drained her 401K, > > > gone to jail for contempt of court, and so many other things that it > > > exhausts me to think about it. > > > > > > > > Because her rages are so violent and explosive, I stand strong with the > > > demand that she cannot discuss her divorce/legal battles with us(as this is > > > when she becomes explosive). Although that behavior isn't shocking to me, I > > > refuse to expose my children to it. Well of course, she refuses to abide by > > > my boundaries, and choses to have nothing to do with us instead. Lately, she > > > has been calling and demanding money(while insulting me at the same time) so > > > her car doesn't get repossed. We decided that to avoid being blamed for > > > anything that happens as a result of the car getting repossed, we would make > > > a one time " piece of mind " payment. That was followed with an email asking > > > me " what she could have done to deserve such horrible treatment from her > > > former family " ? You know, the ones that have given you $6,000 over the past > > > few months...how dare they. I find out today that she is going to be > > > homeless by the end of the week. I don't feel that my children are safe > > > around her, but I don't know what to do if she comes knocking at the door > > > for a place to stay (as well as her 2 dogs). It is the " she is my mom " guilt > > > rearing it's ugly head. Any advice??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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